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In today's Epoc Digest 24 messages:
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- Tom-Tom device/software
- IR modem WIN2000 / Nokia 6310
- NETBOOK IN THE HIMALAYAS / LENGTH OF POSTINGS / TEKLOGIX
- Infrared on Windows 2000
- Free no-Subs Dialup in the UK
- SEARCH AND REPLACE IN SHEET
- Nokia 9210
- Automatic line numbering
- Psions up mountains
- Navigator, IR modem, Last batch, netBook, Headsets, Upgrade S7,
- Re: Re: Macintosh and CF cards
- Psion's future; screen problem; Samsung A300 & P5
- Re: Yr mesages to the digest
- RISCOS / Pegasus 3 / Bluetooth
- Re: Ranger diskette drive
- Re: Psion-Teklogix
- Re: Telfort, O2 and NS
- Re: Phone Manager nd Nokia 3310
- Re: Off-topic : Rolls-Royce
- Re: Low GPRS data throughput
- RE: TomTom Navigator for EPOC
- GPRS on O2 Holland - final :-)
- Revo Keyboard
- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 0**
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 05:32:56 +0000
From: vlad arghir
Subject: Tom-Tom device/software
Emil Granström about Tom-Tom device/software
Their answer to me:
Dear vlad,
Thanks for your mail.
TomTom Navigator will only run ppOcketPC.
Currently there are no plans to release TomTom Navigator for Epoc devices.
And it seems they don't. The latest Street Planner/Route Planner is two
years old...
best,
vlad
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 07:11:40 +0000
From: michael robins
Subject: IR modem WIN2000 / Nokia 6310
<My new laptop running Win2000 can only connect using the Ir port (no serial
port these days-that's progress) but as soon as it starts the dial process it freezes the Ir in the phone and drops the
call>
I had a similar problem getting my Palm Vx and my Nokia 6210 to talk to my company laptop running Win2000. After several install / uninstall attempts with various drivers I eventually found a fix. In Win2K, Settings, open the Control panel and look for (I think it is) the IR connection - in there there was a tick box for enabling a wireless link to a digital camera, you need to untick this box. As I no longer have the laptop (I am stuck in the office at the moment) I cannot be sure of the exact process - I do know I had to disable the link to the digital camara (which was enabled by default).
My question now :-) Can anyone reccomend a good ISP in Australia? I am going out in Septmber for about 3 months.
Finally many thanks to all who have kept this newsletter going -
regards to all
Mike Robins
Thales Training & Simulation
07740 358810
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 07:37:10 +0000
From: Peter Keene
Subject: NETBOOK IN THE HIMALAYAS / LENGTH OF POSTINGS / TEKLOGIX
Hi Guys,
For Edgar Brazda re Hungarian Mount Everest expedition:
Great to hear of the netBook being used in this application Edgar.
On the subject of battery charging - was any use made of a solar charger?
On screen readability - I find my netBook's screen readability to be pathetic in bright sunshine, even with a brightness setting of 9 (which sucks the battery dry in a few hours). Were any special measures taken to improve this?
On temperature - the netBook is only specified to operate down to 0° C. How did the team get it to operate in temperatures which must have been much lower?
Hearing about Psion devices being used in practical applications, such as this or the fuel delivery example given by Rolf, is interesting. Let's have more.
But PLEASE Rolf, try and keep your postings shorter. Many subscribers are downloading the digest with older cellphones.
For Itamar re Teklogix:
Psion Teklogix markets a whole range of Psion and Teklogix devices Itamar, well into double figures, not just the netBook and netpad. Check out the website.
Regards,
Peter
Cape Town
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 08:06:23 +0000
From: "Mark Bridge"
Subject: Infrared on Windows 2000
Hi -
Bob Cousins mentioned a problem that he's having with his Nokia 6310 and Windows 2000: "has anyone has experienced difficulty getting the Ir modem inside the Nokia 6310 to function correctly. My new laptop running Win2000 can only connect using the Ir port but as soon as it starts the dial process it freezes the Ir in the phone and drops the call."
I haven't used Windows 2000 and aren't lucky enough to have a 6310. (I'm waiting for the new Sony Ericsson P800 mobile phone this autumn but may end up buying a Nokia 7650 if my patience doesn't hold). However, I remember reading that Windows 2000 doesn't support Infrared modems without a software fix. I think that the solution is at
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q252/7/95.asp and
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/security/q252795/default.asp
Best wishes
Mark Bri
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 08:33:55 +0000
From: "Rick Gillyon"
Subject: Free no-Subs Dialup in the UK
Hi,
> From: "Thomas F. VAN DER ZIJDEN"
> Subject: 'Open' SMTP-server
> Do other countries also have these 'free for everyone without subscription' dialup numbers?
There is a very useful one in the UK called UK2, connection details are:
0845 609 1370
Username: uk2
Password: uk2
POP3 Server: mail.uk2.net (only for UK2 addresses)
SMTP Server: smtp.uk2.net (must use dialup)
Very handy and generally reliable. You must have a domain on UK2 to create an email address, but not to connect and use SMTP. If anyone wants an email address, let me know and I can set that up.
Bye,
Rick http://www.gillyon.com/
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 09:09:15 +0000
From: Peter Keene
Subject: SEARCH AND REPLACE IN SHEET
Hi Guys,
For Howard re search and replace in Sheet:
Don't know if this will help you Howard, but check out the Text Functions (Sheet) card in the Help file. Read 'Find' and 'Replace' functions.
Regards,
Peter
Cape Town
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 09:16:52 +0000
From: Chris Matthee
Subject: Nokia 9210
Answer to Itamar and general comments regarding Nokia 9210.
The Nokia 9210 does not come with any modem capability other than the gsm connection. But is still uses the same connectivity model as the Psion pda (with some modifications). This means that one can still define other modems if one can edit the comms db. For this one needs 3rd party software or the sdk tools.
eInternet is an example of such a 3rd party software (http://psiloc.com) and currently the only such software I know about. When I played with it, it was fairly easy to use. It combines the old Psion 5 control panel component of Dial, Modems and Internet into one control panel component allowing the user to add new modems, new dialing locations and new isp settings.
I went the sdk route, since I already had the sdk, knows it fairly well and also need this capability on the emulator before I can port my own internet application. There is a very good document available on the Forum Nokia
web site explaining the process step by step.
Some general comments. I agree with most of the postings on this digest regarding the 9210. Except, I don't find it too heavy too carry around.
Previously, I was carrying both my phone and my Psion 5 with me. Now I only have one item sitting in its holder attached to my belt.
The keyboard it usable, but does not get close to the Psion 5 keyboard.
But, one can type fairly fast once used to the keyboard.
One problem that I have is with the fact that there is no database applications standard with the 9210. One must either use the contacts database, or use 3rd party software. I miss something like Data.
Chris
This email was send using a Nokia 9210 Communicator
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 10:32:03 +0000
From: p_harrison
Subject: Automatic line numbering
Dear All
A software question: is there any means by which Word on a 5mx can be persuaded to do automatic line numbering, using letters or numbers, preferably nested? Perhaps a macro? I've been a Series 5/mx owner for three years and this is my biggest gripe. I often take minutes of meetings and line numbering a la M$ Word 97
would be invaluable.
Failing that, is there any substitute, eg a notetaker/jotter program that can export into Epoc Word with the abilities outlined above?
Thanks in advance,
Paul Harrison, Birmingham, UK
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 11:30:06 +0000
From: Philip S. Adkins Potter
Subject: Psions up mountains
Hi,
Weren't Psions (3as maybe) used successfully in the high Himalayas a few years ago by group studying mountain flora? If I remember rightly they were the only data-gathering devices that could stand the cold that high up.
Not disparaging the Hungarian expedition and it's netBook (quite an achievement) but I wonder what the first mountaineering Psion was. In fact I wonder in how many unfriendly environments (to conventional computers) any Psion, not just ER5 devices, have been successfully used and why Psions were chosen. Weight was obviously a consideration in the Himalayas.
Happy days,
Phil.
"To stay young requires unceasing cultivation
of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods."
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 12:53:49 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: Navigator, IR modem, Last batch, netBook, Headsets, Upgrade S7,
Answer to: Emil
Re. Navigator - For what it is worth, I sent them a request. I suppose the main advantage is that it will recalculate the route when you go "off the track" ?
Answer to: Thomas van der Zijden
Re. IR modem - Why don't you try to take out the CF disk, close and start the email program, put the CF disk back and LEAVE the email program open all the time. Will that help ?
Re. Last batch - Does not look that strange at all to me, as most retailers either have stopped or are currently selling out their last Psion stock and will not restock. I suppose these 1,000 are for back- and last orders of Companies like Clove, Widget, etc.I don't understand how just 1,000 units can be profitable at all for Psion.
Answer to: Rolf Brunsting
Re. netBook - Thanks for the example of vertical application in the market, truly interesting. A pitty you had to become sarcastic afterwards (I don't play the lottery <G>). And you are right, each one of us will have to decide for himself the "Will I ..." question. Personally, I carry both with me for 70% of the time, but hardly ever use them combined (don't dial or SMS from the Psion). As to an updated 5MX, I don't know whether it would do or not, but as they will certainly not bring it out it is irrelevant.
Re. Headsets - I don't like these headsets on my head and prefer to use a handsfree set with a microphone behind the sunshield and a loudspeaker in the car.
Answer to; Mike Fellhauer
Re. Upgrade S7 - Thanks, I read the article. But it states that hardly anything was updated, mainly the battery gauge ...
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 13:49:44 +0000
From: gordont
(Terry Gordon)
Subject: Re: Re: Macintosh and CF cards
Rolf is pretty much correct. I have formatted my CF disks (8 to 64 MB) only in the Psion and the Mac opens them fine. I have even popped them into PCs to transfer data with no subsequent problem opening them on a Mac or 5MX. Good luck. TG
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 15:17:17 +0000
From: "Tom Robertson"
Subject: Psion's future; screen problem; Samsung A300 & P5
Hi,
As an avid user, I am concerned about Psion's situation - can anyone update me? I know they have ceased production, but is there anyone carrying on? Is the design up for sale?!?! Are Ericsson going to make any more Epoc machines? Are there any other machines that use the Epoc platform?
Secondly, I have a more technical problem... I have a psion 5mx which seems to have suddenly developped a fault. When I turn the machine on, dark lines appear on the screen running from top to bottom. When I hold the screen at a certain angle, however, the screen functions properly. Any ideas? Could it be something to do with the ribbon connecting the screen to the rest of the machine? Is this replaceable, if so where can one get one/who could replace it.
Thirdly! I am trying to use my Samsung A300 with a classic Psion 5. I have spoken to my mobile phone company and have gone through the tried and tested setup but with no luck. Has anyone tried this combination with success? The problem must be with the psion... I have tried using the comms app set to Ir with an AT command to get a response from the phone but this does not work either. My mobile phone company even replaced the handset but this did not solve the problem. Any help?
Thanks in advance for any assistance,
Regards,
Tom
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 20:00:30 +0000
From: "Edgar Brazda Ph.D."
Subject: Re: Yr mesages to the digest
Hi Itamar,
As You see perfectly I face this problem: my normal "mail.datanet.hu" e-mail address is proper for collecting e-mails for a few days, not to worry about the size of the letterbox. My other (mobile) e-mail "westel900.net" is easily available through my cell so I write my short messages via this account. Spam prevention prevents me to use the "mail.datanet.hu" address for writing if I connect to it via cellphone.
Please, give me advice, what to do?
It's far from my intention of course to do any inconvenience for you, when you do such a great work for all of us.
Looking forward to your suggestion
Edgar, Budapest
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Subject: Yr mesages to the digest
Author: Epoc Digest
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 00:48:24 +0100
Hi Edgar,
You sent your messages to the digest with a different email address than you subscribed with and this automatically shows in the program and stops it to request whether to allow the message or not.
Would it be possible in future to send your messages from the email address you subscribed with, or alternatively change your subscription to this address ?
Thanks and best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
The Digest team
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Subject: Re: netBook as consumer product
Author: "Edgar Brazda Ph.D."
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:02:24 +0000
Hi,
I got - with Kind Regards - repetitive lessons from Rolf Brunsting about the netBook not being a consumer product, while many of the digesters expressed their wishes in this direction.
May I suggest, you are talking about two different things?
1. Yes we all comprehended that Psion never intended to sell netBook to the public. Anyway, this was quite obvious for the first instant, and the appearance and demise of the "slow-down" public version (S7) proves, that unfortunately the great minds at Psion were totally unable to handle the sudden and "unexpected" (quoted from an official Psion press-release at the time of introducing S7) popularity of the netBook among the "average" users. This is similar to the situation of discontinuing and not-discontinuing and again not-not-discontinuing the 5mx: it talks about total uncertainty, lack of vision, which is very sad news, because.......
2. .....on the other hand the minute ideas of the minor user subgroups (or future-teller journalists) can not control the direction of the development
of future devices. Business plans, investments must follow strict trends.
Yes, we do not agree, because in my view Psion missed an opportunity (but not now but min. 2 years ago) not opening to the public, and yes, we agree, if a company is committed to the corporate market only, then they are not interested in the public's woes.
Edgar, Budapest
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 20:43:37 +0000
From: "AndyHayes"
Subject: RISCOS / Pegasus 3 / Bluetooth
Hi All
RISCOS = Many things!! A compact and powerful OS that boots in a fraction of the time of Windoze, with the same sort of GUI. More stable than Windoze by a long way. Runs on Acorn PCs. Incredibly expensive propritory hardware such as network cards, scsi cards etc. You may be expected to pay for drivers for printers etc. No free lunches with this OS. Incredible devaluation as I found out when I realised that I had made a mistake and asked the dealer if he would sell it for me. He advised me that walking through the shop door with a new one takes 50% off the value.
Pegasus modems, including an IR version are available from www.3jtech.com It took forever for them to bring it out, but it looks good. Nice and portable. Less than the size of a packet of fags.
Thanks for the Bluetooth headset advice Rolf. I will have a look on the net for the BlueSpoon.
Andy Hayes
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 21:14:53 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Ranger diskette drive
Dear Darryl,
<< Rolf Brunsting mentioned the Ranger diskette drive recently. Sounds like it would be possible to link this to my netBook which would be great >>
I'm afraid that the Ranger diskette drive was sold quite a few years ago. We're talking end of Series 3a era / beginning of Series 3c era according the Psion calendar.
--
Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 21:14:56 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Psion-Teklogix
Dear Itamar,
<< Re. Psion - Teklogix with 2 products is not exactly that viable in my humble opinion >>
Come on, Itamar! A quick peek at the Psion-Teklogix web site would have given you the following product line-up.
- 7030 Hand-held Terminal
- 7030 Hand-held Terminal - Freezer
- 7035 Hand-held Terminal
- 7035 Hand-held Terminal - Freezer
- 7510 Hand-held Mobile Computer
- 7520 Hand-held Mobile Computer - Freezer
- netBook
- netPad
- Workabout MX
- Workabout MX Scanner
- Workabout MX Wand
- Workabout MX RFID
- 20115 Wireless ScanSee
- 8055/60 Vehicle-Mount Terminal
- 8055/60 Vehicle-Mount Terminal - Freezer
- 8055/60 Vehicle-Mount Computer
- 8055/60 Vehicle-Mount Computer - Freezer
- 8560 Vehicle-Mount Computer
- 8570 Vehicle-Mount Computer
- 8570 Vehicle-Mount Computer - Freezer
Psion-Teklogix also has a range of additional gear like cradles, SSD drives, communication modules, etc. As an aside, the "Freezer" above refers to a version suitable for low temperatures as found in cold stores.
<< who has seen Teklogix products in their own Company or Companies you visited ? >>
I have as one of the companies we worked with on a few projects in my Enraf time used the 7035 Hand-held Mobile Computer as diagnostic and service tool for one of their own product ranges. That is, they bought the 7035 and added the software they had developed for it. And their service engineers, as well as the engineers of their representatives, all carried a 7035.
Just as another company, who supplied industrial pressure transmitters to us, used the Organiser II LZ64 as the basis for their service tool. I've used such an LZ64 to calibrated these pressure transmitters in our workshops. As an addition - One of our instruments was sold by a UK system integrator under their own brand name. They had standardised on the Organiser II and preferred not to work with the Epson HX-20 our service engineers used at that time. What they therefore did was to write an equivalent of our HX-20 software for the Organiser II.
<< Digital will be fased out, Symbian is only partially owned by Psion and so it will be a Symbian/software Company with no own hardware products. So why to call it still Psion in a few years ? Most probably it will be swallowed up by one of the larger players in the field. >>
Since when do you need to have (a) hardware product(s) in order to be able to survive as an independent company? And why should Psion Group Plc be swallowed up by a larger company when there are examples galore of companies of similar size that have been independent for years and years? Who are these "larger players" and what's "the field" they're working in?
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 21:15:02 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Telfort, O2 and NS
Dear Thomas,
<< About O2 NL: I am not surprised that you have bad results with O2 ... One of the founders of Telfort was the Dutch Railway Service NS. Definitely NOT a reliable partner! >>
I'm sorry, but this is a nasty comment that can't be justified.
What NS Dutch National Railways brought into the new Telfort was the fibre optic network it has running long the railway lines plus a small bag of money. British Telecom brought in its technical, operational and marketing knowledge plus a large bag of money. Telfort used the fibre optic network as a backbone for its GSM network and rents another part out to corporations. A third part of the fibre optic network remained, and still remains, NS' own.
NS has since been bought out, Telfort's GSM network is now O2 following BT's sale of its Cellnet business while corporate network rental still has the Telfort name. NS should therefore not be blamed for the operational performance of the O2 GSM network as it has absolutely nothing to do with it. Just as it had nothing to do with the operation of the Telfort GSM network as that was BT Cellnet's part of the business.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 21:15:06 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Phone Manager nd Nokia 3310
Dear Andy,
<< I'm interested in using Phoneman with my 3310. I already have the data cable and this works fine with my PC applications. How can I use this cable with my S5 ... >>
For a connection need the data cable, a null-modem adapter, a male-male gender changer and the PsiWin cable. Question is whether Zenobyte's Phone Manager supports the 3310 as it's not mentioned on the list. I think you need the Nokia 6110 / Orange nk702 driver or the Nokia 6150 driver. I don't have a 3310 ready so can't perform a quick check.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 21:15:09 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Off-topic : Rolls-Royce
Dear Trygve,
<< he'd be sitting comfortably because Rolls Royce uses Citroën's hydropneumatic suspension on the rear axle... (They're too cheap to licence the full set :-) >>
Maup Caransa was driven around in a Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow. The Silver Shadow had a self-levelling system consisting of hydraulic rams for the front as well as the rear suspension. However, this was only active when the car was parked. And the rams at he front were later omitted as they didn't have that much of an effect. The rear hydraulic rams were replaced by the Citroën system with the introduction of the Silver Spirit. Again, only for self-levelling as the Silver Spirit had a conventional spring and damper trailing-arm suspension. I don't think this set-up was changed when the Silver Spirit was replaced by the current Silver Seraph.
<< Yes, I drive a Citroën, and no, there's no reason to cry when driving one... >>
I grew up with them as my father drove the ID and DS when I was young.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 21:15:13 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Low GPRS data throughput
Dear Jan,
<< Is someone else using GPRS for the comm from a Psion experiencing the same trouble with low net capacity and the following difficulties to establish "true" high speed connections ... >>
Well ... GSM and HSCSD are 'circuit switched' technologies, meaning that they imitate a landline phone link. When you have a connection there's a copper wire running from your phone to the other phone which is yours for the duration of the call.
The difference with a landline phone is that the connection isn't continuous in the sense that the whole copper pipe is yours. You share the mobile network's capacity with others and are given a certain period, a time slot, that the network is available for you. And the time slot has a fixed frequency so that you can say something like "every eighth slot is mine". Voice communication is thus chopped into pieces and transmitted in short bursts during the assigned time slots. This goes so quickly that the person on the other end of 'the line' doesn't notice the bursty transmission.
The GSM system is based on giving the user two time slots - one for the uplink to the recipient and one for the downlink from the recipient. Given the time slot mechanism this translates into a communication speed of 9600 bps. Later specification GSM systems use slightly different techniques resulting in a 14,400 bps data speed. HSCSD goes one step further by offering the facility to use more time slots, like two up and two down giving you a 28,800 bps link. HSCSD can also be asymmetrical with, for example, one up (14,400 bps to the remote computer) and three down (43,200 bps from the remote computer). Asymmetrical systems are well suited for web browsing as the instruction to fetch a page uses less bytes than the transmission of the page.
GPRS is a 'packet switched' technology which can be compared to a local area network. A LAN has a certain maximum capacity, like 10 Mbps, that's shared by all. Speed of transmission then depends on total network traffic. For GPRS this means that the number of time slots you can get depends on the number of active connections. What's more, the time slot(s) aren't given in a fixed pattern like GSM and HSCSD. When you've nothing to transmit or receive the time slot(s) you had will be given to other users.
What you describe is therefore not typically Swedish nor a question of GSM customers being more important to the network operator. It's simply the GPRS over GSM works. The circuit switched nature of GSM means that the user always has one up slot and one down slot for the duration of the call. Also when it's one person who does the talking, the other merely listens and one slot is mostly unused. It would be nice when this slot could be claimed for GPRS use. But you can't without changing GSM itself. HSCSD users have a much larger impact as they get multiple time slots for the duration of their call.
The congestion you've experienced indicates that the locations where you used GPRS are already well used by GSM users. Reducing the number of available time slots for GPRS, hence the low data throughput. The solution is make changes to the network itself. That is, increasing the number of cells and/or the introduction of micro- and picocells.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 21:26:11 +0000
From: "Neil Thompson"
Subject: RE: TomTom Navigator for EPOC
Quite how TomTom can say that they will "continue to support EPOC" when their support in the past has been so shoddy is beyond me. After several months and emails to them they still have not responded to my emails about Portfolio Manager which has never worked on either my S5 or S7.
Neil
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 21:47:37 +0000
From: Christopher Marwood
Subject: GPRS on O2 Holland - final :-)
Thanks for your thoughts on this, Rolf. This is however an officially available service - so far O2 support GPRS roaming in Ireland, UK, Holland, Germany. I finally heard from O2 support today that they have now identified a problem and are working on it. Something to do with the APNs redirecting to the wrong DNS address, as I understood it.
Best wishes,
Chris
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 22:19:42 +0000
From: "James John"
Subject: Revo Keyboard
Hi there,
The S5 keyboard is wonderful to type on but is heavy and bulky to fit into the shirt pocket. So over the last year I have been using the Revo and must say that the keyboard is just fine. Very suitable for thumb typing on the move. It is light, a bright screen and more than adequate.
My 2 gripes, no memory expansion to put more TR files on it and the backlight.
Regards
James J
Australia
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Date: 25 Jul 2002 22:51:28 +0000
From: "Arent Kits van Heijningen[106016.3614]"
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 0**
on 23 Jul 2002 19:52:10 +0000
Thomas F. van der Zijden" wrote about Travel Modem / Production of 5mx / Tom Tom
>>Right, now I AM intrigued. I definitely have my problem with all of my infrared equipment. It cuts the link whenever the Psion has anything else to do than just communicating with the TravelModem or Nokia 7110. I have M.C.U. 2.0 (and 1.1) installed as you suggested. Both my time-out settings are set to 30 minutes. >>A quick 'ATI3' to my modem confirmed that I have the exact same firmware as the splendidly working modems of all of my Dutch colleagues. But whenever the Psion has something 'difficult' to do - even opening a dialogue screen in some circumstances- it's "bye bye connection"! It almost looks like the 5mx therefore gives an active 'disconnect' signal!<<
Wired modems may suffer similar problems ,I tested transfer of a mixed-content file (a .cab file wich is the WindowsCE equivalent of a .sis file in Epoc32 ) and encountered here on one occasion that the transfer spontaneously aborted
A very useful item here is a classic external modem ( yes these with the blinking lights ) and check the activity while online using the 'sd' and 'rd' LEDS
>>Production of the 5mx:
Itamar, I think it is even worse. The 'last batch of 5mx's ever' Expansys talks about IS the restart of the 5mx production.
According to Steve Litchfield on the newsgroups Psion just decided to order only 1000 new 5mx's. Most interesting...<<
I heard a similar story from Clove but there's still hope in the form of the IDT/OregonScientific Osaris , it appeared that additionall batches - of substantially better quality than the original build - were produced on request of a few resellers ,amongst them a large U.K. Acorn Archimedes system integrator , the Dutch branch of Dixon's and the Vroom&Dreesmann department store for sale in their 'kijkshop' chain
It should not be that difficult to get one or more additional batches of that last build out and it could be substantially cheaper than the original s5mx/mc218
If it is to become a full replacement for the s5mx then probably an improved version should be build (wich improvementsshould be included is left as an exercise for rhe readers )
>>TomTom:
>>There was a question of a new EPOC user on Symbian.info if StreetPlanner was any good. A SIBO user advised against it, because Palmtop wasn't any good at real updates. He still has an outdated version. Seems it happens again with the EPOC versions...But... can we really blame them for it?<<
tom-tom is going for PocketPC because that's were the REAL money is
Also there's the fact that few of the upcoming devices will use the native GUI/application interface layer
on 23 Jul 2002 22:02:53 +0000
Kevin Thorne wrote about
Subject: 9210 specs, Bluetooth battery, cardboard tunnels
>>Did Pegasus ever release the IR model and if so, can anyone confirm it works faultlessly via IR connection? I believe they still make them too, which is good news :-)<<
yes ,they did , but it was only available on special order ,price was on application ,to be determined at time of ordering
Exportech and Clove carried it as well as Expansys
Because of this it was discontinued by both Clove and Epansys as prospective buyers want to know a price before placing an order for it
On 24 Jul 2002 12:26:22 +0000
Philip S. Adkins Potter wrote about : 2ConnectU
>> Unfortunately I couldn't download the program as the page "cannot be found". The redirection is to the address Rolf gave <www.2ksystems.at/2connectu/eng/product/Trial/Trial.html>. I've eMailed the authors and Handango to tell them. <<
That Web site is no longer available ,even tried telnetting to sailor.lib.md.us ,only to get an 'unable to reach remote host ' response
on :24 Jul 2002 18:21:08 +0000
Itamar Engelsman wrote about: netBook Development
>>Someone told me that the production of the netBook is being moved to Canada, and that Psion/Teklogix would not plan such a move if they were planning to stop production altogether. According to my source this means that further development can be expected.<<
Don't expect too much ,the s3mxWorkabout is still being manufactured but there is no further development of the hardware platform
On13 Jul 2002 10:38:50 +0100 ,Trygve Henriksen wrote about: netBook power, Owen's files.
>>It shouldn't be too difficult to build one that has 75% efficiency. I have the datasheets for a 'switching step-up DC-DC converter' IC and only needs to locate suitable supporting components. (Surface mount inductors, condensators and resistors mainly) The problem? It's very difficult to find cheap enough components that can handle the power levels we're talking about(particularly in 'one off' packages. Suppliers realy like to sell them in 100 or more lots) In theory, you could use the battery power when the motor is running, which should provide 14V (if it's less, get a new generator, the old one is crap) Just watch out for spikes on the line... (They can be VERY expensive)!<<
Mascot has a range of power supply systems that probably can fill the needs of your netbook when on the move
For those abroad -i.e outside Norway -,there are other makes offering similar products
On: 14 Jul 2002 02:14:45 +0100 , "Nigel Colvert" wrote about :: Help with modem script
>>We can manage OK with "standard" UK providers such as BT Click, but he will need to use it abroad. As they already subscribe to Compuserve, this seemed to be a logical choice as they have access points in the country he will be visiting. However, we have been singularly unable to get a connection, despite using the scipt available on Mike McConnell's site. I have followed through the script manually using a PC with a terminal window and the wait for and reply text seems to be good but no joy. The mobile phone shows the call being connected and then a few seconds later the Psion gives an error dialog stating that there was a problem with the login script and drops the connection. I have tried editing the script and replacing the wait for "..." sections with simple time delays in case there had been a subtle change in the Compuserve prompts but no luck.<<
Most modern gadgets are hard-wired for 8bits no parity 1 stop bit
You have to do a manual login with the settings for 8n1 and use these characters that are consistently recognisable ( the colons and the exclamation point ) as the search strings in the script
Another possibility is that there are subtle -but devastating- differences in the way a PC and a Psion connect to the internet
Also there's the way a direct connection to an isp and a connectin through CompuServe works
In the first case the remote device is often capable to initiate the actual ppp connection , only after that the login proper takes place
When logging on to CompuServe you first connect to the network , then to the CompuServe system itself , this asks for your number and password and first when you are logged on you can open a ppp connection
In fact ppp is a "GO" word ( GO PPPCONNECT )
Hope this helps
On15 Jul 2002 11:19:39 +0100 , Itamar Engelsman wrote :
Subject: Hebrew, netBook, Modem,
>>Re. netBook - I am vaguely thinking about it. It would be a good way to spend some of the bonus money before tax <smile>. However, including a spare battery it is about 700 pounds, which is still as good as the price of a notebook. <<
You should seriously investigate an ultrapersonal/ultraportable to go with your s5/revo ,that will give you full pc power in a package not more expensive and not substantially bigger than a netbook
Pricing for ultrapersonals now range from EUR 350 for a packaged single-board to EUR 1000 for a small tablet or notebook form factor
Both PocketPC and ultrapersonals will eat away at the high end of the PDA market as the prices and features start to converge
Itamar Engelsman
wrote on :21 Jul 2002 13:04:42 +0000
>>Re. Connecting with 9210 - Is it possible to connect an external modem to the Nokia 9210(i) and/or to connect the 9210 to a PC with a serial cable and besides backing-up for example use MochaPPP ?<<
Currently connectivity is limited to the PC but apparently a module is in the works allowing serial devices like a GPS or a modem to be connected
>>How long will Psion-Teklogix be able to stay in the market ? do we have any knowledge about the sales of the netBook ? Is it sufficient to continue the development ?<<
Treat the future of anything with the full implementation of EPOC 32 as very uncertain , even Psion-teklogix is now moving to MS-DOS/MS-Windows(CE) as the user/programming interface on its industrial handhelds
Sony-Ericsson and Nokia are the only ones going ahead with full versions of the operating system on their communicators
Jan G from Stockholm wrote this :
>>Sometimes the GPRS comm comes to such a standstill that the mail server times out and I have to start all over again. On peak GSM traffic hours (as Saturday afternoons) it happens that I choose to up-/down my mail via a GSM connection instead. Is this a typical Swedish phenomenon or have any of you the had the same experiences?<<
Unfortunately not , the minimum guarateed transfer rate for GPRS is 0 that is **ZERO** bits per second
GPRS uses excess network capacity for packet-based data traffic ,so if there's a huge amount of voice/fax/messaging going on GPRS takes a back seat
k
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