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In today's Epoc Digest 25 messages:
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- REPLY RE: Digest Improvement Suggestion
- Re: Fax and Ericsson
- Re: HTML & WEB
- About Fax Groups, S7 battery
- Incoming fax calls on mobile phones
- Re: Nokia IR timeouts
- Freeware alternative to plbeam
- Desperation: 5mx flapping keyboard
- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 049
- Email address faulty
- GPRS, GPRS & GSM together, 500+, History, Nokia 7210, SMS, Colourmagic,
- xnview
- ExtraBars/Start5/Thanks
- Drente / Brunsting / Darp
- In faxes
- Blackberry vs. 5mx
- GPRS
- Better screen
- FAXING ON GSM
- Alternate PDA
- Can't Receive Fax on Mobile
- Which Mobile Phone?
- What is EFR?
- Palmtop User Magazine
- Web 2.0, Opera, HTMLEdit, Bluetooth
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Date: 11 Aug 2002 22:22:39 +0000
From: "Janet I. Fine"
Subject: REPLY RE: Digest Improvement Suggestion
My thanks to Nicole Carbonara for reminding me about using the Find feature to locate a single topic. I don't know why I never thought of doing that before since I use the feature often in other programs. Now I understand why topic numbering would not be appropriate. Just the same, I love getting the Digest for several reasons. First, of course, is all the wonderful tips and suggestions I've learned. But just as important is the connection I feel with all of you other Psioneers around the globe, though we've never met. Reading the digest has altered my all-too-American perception of never really thinking much about people outside of my own country unless I was traveling abroad. Now you are all like distant neighbors and when I read your postings I wonder what life is like for you in your part of the world.
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Date: 11 Aug 2002 22:59:11 +0000
From: Jason Garbutt
Subject: Re: Fax and Ericsson
Hi,
On 11/08/2002 3:47:35 am, Darryl Kempster wrote:
> Jason
> Re your posting to the digest :-
>
> "...faxing with my T39m...
> Having perservered with different settings, I have now
> managed to send faxes using both Class 1 & 2."
>
> Please can you send me the settings you used? I have an
> R520 and failed miserably to send a fax with Fax Class
> 2.
>
> "However, I have been unable to receive a fax.
>
> After a short wait I get the following error message:
>
> Problem occured when receiving a fax
> Problem with modem (-102), check connection and try
> again.
>
> If it can send faxes, and answer an incoming fax call, I
> can't see why it can't receive a fax ?"
>
> Don't know about the T39 but with my R520 I get a
> message on the phone screen
>
> "You can only answer this call from external equipment
> eg a PC"
>
> Only problem is I don't have the data cable, or a PC!
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> Cheers
> Darryl
>
The settings I used are as follows:-
Name: T39(fax)
Speed: 9600
Connect via: Infrared
Fax class: 1 or 2
Loudspeaker: Always
Volume: Loud
Pause: 4
Init: ATZ
Data:
Fax: ATS0=2
Flow control: none
Terminal detect: unticked
Carrier detect: unticked
Hope this helps.
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Regards,
Jason
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 06:24:21 +0000
From: Korbinian
Subject: Re: HTML & WEB
Hi Roman, Jim and Michael
> My new HTML book (HTML For The World Wide Web by Elizabeth Castro)
> says to change the extension to .HTM or .HTML. Obviously I can't do
> this on the Psion. <
I tried it out. If you change the name of the word-document (which consist of html) to *.html and open it with web, no warning 'this file could be open with word' will appear. The file will be opened with web and only few bytes of the header will be displayed at the beginning and few bytes at the end. (Tested on a 5 mxPro)
I would prefer the Symbian Text Editor anyway...
> Clearly this Elizabeth doesn't know anything about
> files and their relationship to their applications <BG>.
Therefore they know about the relationship :)
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bIS denn/Sincerely
Korbinian
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 06:38:03 +0000
From: "Marcus von Cube"
Subject: About Fax Groups, S7 battery
Rolf,
><< There have been predecessors (now defunct) and there is a seldomly used ISDN successor (Group 4) for this which are all incompatible to Group 3 fax >> >
>Sorry, what you write about Group 4 isn't correct. Fax Group 4 is downwards compatible with Group 3. It would be a bit strange when the ITU-T would come with a new standard that wouldn't work with the millions of Group 3 machines in use around the world. Group 4 can also be used on analog phone lines at 14,400 bps rather than the 9600 bps of Group 3.<
Maybe one of is mixing up standards. What I mean with Group 4 is the
digital (ISDN) variant with higher resolution than 200dpi. This cannot
work with a standard Group 3 fax machine. I know that modern Group 3
fax machines or modems have an increased speed of 14.400 over 9600 but
the Group 3 negotiation (the beeps you can hear indicating the start of
a fax communication) at 300 bps ensures that both communcation
partners use the proper transmission speed. This is still Group 3
protocol.
I assume that that Group 4 machines fall back to Group 3 fax protocol
when talking to an analog fax device but than they can't use the higher
resolution defined by the newer standard.
One word to the S7 (netBook) battery. Rolf mentions NiMH technology
which is not quite correct, it's a Li Ion battery pack. But those
batteries are far more complicated to charge than NiMH so the rest of
his posting is absolutely correct.
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 07:05:24 +0000
From: "Marcus von Cube"
Subject: Incoming fax calls on mobile phones
Jason,
>However, I have been unable to receive a fax. I set the everything up, the phone rings, the psion answers but then the process stops - the psion continues saying 'waiting for fax call' even tho' the Psion has answered it.
The problem is how faxing and data transmission works in the GSM
networks. Outgoing data/fax calls go to special gateway modems
installed at the operator. The reason is that GSM itself is fully
digital and unable to transmit the analog signals generated by a
standard (fax-) modem. The operator has devices that "trnaslate"
between GSM and landline digital protocols.
Now to an icoming fax: If your fax machine is calling your standard
mobile number tha call is routed as a voice call. If you pick up the
phone you can hear the fax beeps. How can the operator know that this
call is digital and not voice? He can't! Therefore for being able to
receive faxes (or answer data calls) on a mobile phone, you will need
seperate mobile numbers to call. If a call goes to such a special
number, the gateway at the operator translates it back to GSM digital (seperate for fax and data) and calls your phone in the specific mode.
You can't pick up such a fax or data call with the phone itself, only
with a computer!
The downside of this is that you typically have to pay for it :-(
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 07:50:50 +0000
From: Julie Wills
Subject: Re: Nokia IR timeouts
At 11:27 pm 11/8/02, you wrote:
>Nokia IR auto off
>Well so far digestees have written in with the following results, all negative >6210 7110 9210 8810, 6310, 8310 and 6510
>I tried it on a friends 8210 and while the Ir icon did stop flashing after >selecting twice, it then started flashing again after a short while and
>cut out after 2 minutes!
>But the thought did occur to me (later) that it might have started
>flashing again because it was idle. Has anyone actually connected to the
>web while the icon was stable?
I wondered about the same thing, but perhaps forgot to mention in my
previous post that I tried connecting to Phoneman via IR (the only thing I
use it for - I don't use a modem with my Psion). I'm sad to report that it made no difference on my 9210. It still timed out. (Of course it
shouldn't time out anyway while it's in use - that's the definition of
timing out.)
Julie Wills
Twyford, READING, UK
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 08:19:31 +0000
From: Roman Frotz - Sun Germany - HR - HR generalist
Subject: Freeware alternative to plbeam
Hi all,
I just want to give you a heads up that the guys from C-Pen developed a freeware program that extends the infrared communication (irOBEX) features in your Psion similar to the the plbeam software (Shareware). You can download it from:
http://www.cpen.com/Download/extra_applications/m6/psion
Regards,
Roman
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 08:48:28 +0000
From: "Chris Cooper"
Subject: Desperation: 5mx flapping keyboard
Desperation.
I've dropped my 5mx and the keyboard is flapping loose from the base (the lower half of the clamshell) of the machine. The machine seems to be working fine, however, and can even be typed on (but the spacebar is even less rsponsive than ususal).
There are (or should be) two plastic catches on the underside of the keyboard. These hook into long slots, or tracks, running from front to back of the base, one each side of the aluminium baseplate. After the accident, one of the catches has broken off and the other has come out of its slot.
I need to get the surviving catch back into its slot. But it's going to have to be bent a lot to do that. I've tried pressing as hard as I dare with a small thin screwdriver blade, but it's pretty rigid.
Just jamming the lid shut so that it presses down hard onto the keyboard *might* force the catch into the slot - or it might smash the catch.
Is it perhaps possible to lift the aluminium baseplate (on the left-hand side)to give the catch room to hook onto it?
Does anyone with any experience of this have any tips for me? Is this something I absolutely should not attempt to fix myself? (I am the world's most unhandyman).
I'd appreciate it if any constructive advice coud be sent to me directas well as copied to the list, so that I'd see it sooner. (I may well have done something drastic and irreversible before any advice gets to me.)
TIA for any advice.
Chris
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 12:16:37 +0000
From: Toby Butler
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 049
I loved the broken 5 story. Got me hook line and sinker :-) Also enjoyed the family history very much. I've just started playing with a diamond mako which has been a pleasant surprise - what a lovely bright screen. Extrabars seems to work with it OK, (the graphics are a little big but so what) so all my shortcuts to open my data files work which is ace.
I'm wondering whether to 'restore' my old Series 5 C drive onto it and delete any programs that won't work/need my old D drive; or to start clean and install everything I need which sounds like a bit of a fag (that means effort, if any americans are wondering). Any thoughts on this, and any other advice on moving over to revo/mako'sville would be appreciated.
Cheers
Toby
PS if anyone happens to have a broken 5mx with a working screen I would be very interested in buying/swapping it for something...
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 13:47:48 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: Email address faulty
Message to: Gunter Aigmueller
Unfortunately the last 3 digests were returned by your ISP with the message "illegal host / domain name found" and we had no option but to take your name off the list.
Please resubscribe with a new email address.
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 13:47:50 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: GPRS, GPRS & GSM together, 500+, History, Nokia 7210, SMS, Colourmagic,
Answer to: Robin Davies-Rollinson
Re. GPRS - Vodaphone told me that abt. 50 A4 pages of text are 1 Mb. the question is really, how much do you rmonthly invoices end up to for the GPRS connection ?
Answer to: Trygve Henriksen
Re. GPRS & GSM together - Isn't that a little difficult without Bluetooth technology ? Will you hold your Psion in the air with the phone or your ear on the desk ? <G>
Answer to: Peter Keene
Re. 500+ - Thanks. We now appear also on the Symbian pages (www.symbianpages.com/proddetails.asp?nP=690) which hopefully will increase the membership again.
Answer to: Rolf Brunsting
Re. History - Thanks for the history, very interesting. I was always proud to have been born 8th generation in Amsterdam, but you "beat" me. My grandparents had very common professions like "ketellapper" (repairer of pots and pans), "schoenpoetser" (shoe polisher), "venter" (selling goods in the street) and the like. My grandfather started into real estate and worked himself up the ladder. After the 2nd world war my father (having fled to Switserland) took over the office and built it up further. However, neither my brother nor me were interested and today there is no family business left, and only my sister still lives in Amsterdam.
Answer to: Darryl Kempster
Re. Nokia 7210 - What kind of machine will this be ? A phone, a phone/pda, bluetooth, camera, etc. ?
Answer to: Thomas F.VAN DER ZIJDEN
Re. SMS - I am not a frequent SMS user nor an expert. I do know that when in Israel and using the Israeli Orange network with a local SIM card I need to change the SMS address. I just thought it might be an idea.
Re. Colourmagic - Well, sofar it did not mess up anything after 4 or 5 days of running it. I must say that the S7 looks a lot more friendly with my choice of softer colours.
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 15:22:40 +0000
From: "Tony Cabot"
Subject: xnview
Jaap & Jack,
Thanks for the idea. I guess I didn't make myself clear. I have used
xnview with the Psion 5 but now that I have a netBook I would like color and
xnview, at least the edition I have, won't do that, it converts to grey
scale.
Tony
*****original message*****
Date: 8 Aug 2002 21:02:30 +0000
From: "Jaap Laméris"
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 047 : Irfan/Xnview and "Drent"
Greetings,
Answer to Tony Cabot:
Try XNVIEW. This is a freeware graphical utility that will among others
convert graphics files into more than 300 different formats, among others
.MBM and .pic (series 3) . It can be downloaded at www.xnview.com A great
program with good support and an active newsgroup.
>Dear Lothar,
> I am sorry to hear that you had a funeral. Yes, I have tried
"Irfanview". But I could not save to the MBM format for >Psion. I see that
the web site shows many different plug-ins for different formats but no MBM.
Do you know if one is >available somewhere else?
>Tony Cabot
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 15:30:24 +0000
From: "Philip Carlisle"
Subject: ExtraBars/Start5/Thanks
Andy
Thanks for your fast advice on lost icons having uninstalled ExtraBars.
Afraid it didn't work for me, but re-installing the programs did.
As I only wished the icons to be removed once placed within an ExtraBars
bar, I think I'll pass on NoMore. After your comments, though, I may go
back to ExtraBars despite the annoyance.
Does any one have a comment on Start5 - it seems to be stuck in a beta
test version on FreEPOC, and I wonder if it has any major glitches?
Thanks to the administrators of the Digest, As a newcomer, I'm very
impressed at the rate of publication.
Brgds
Philip Carlisle
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 15:46:08 +0000
From: "David Bernstein"
Subject: Drente / Brunsting / Darp
Rolf,
Thank you so much for your reply to my enquiry. I was fascinated to read about your family and the history of the region you come from. My four grandparents where born in four different countries - and none of them was my country of birth! - so I am particularly impressed by the long-standing connection to the same area.... I hope our fellow digest readers didn't get indigestion....
(By the way, as far as I can tell from an online mapping site you seen to have moved barely 25kms (south west) of your ancestral home...)
Yours ever,
David B.
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 16:25:30 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: In faxes
For those with problems with incoming faxes, there exist several fax services that will receive faxes for you and send it to your email inbox, from where you will get it together with your other emails. One such service in the UK is www.yac.com. It costs more to send the fax (but that is not your problem <G>) but works very well.
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 20:00:51 +0000
From: "Hoffman, Susan"
Subject: Blackberry vs. 5mx
Well, I've had my Blackberry for three days now, and I have decided I love it, but it won't replace my 5mx. I can see, however, that I am much more likely to throw my Bbry in my purse and relegate my 5 to the briefcase. Advantages: email receipt and sending is constant and automatic. The typing is easier than I expected, but still doesn't come close to the 5. There are some nice autotype features that make it faster, such as, two spaces enters a period at last word and capitalizes next word, words that must take an apostrophe are automatically written that way to minimize use of the Alt key. I can set it to vibrate instead of beep when a message is received. The alarm is easy to set and is very audible. The calendar and address book synch easily. It is really really small. Downsides? The calendar sucks. Didn't pick up my event entries. Long emails are received only 2kb at a time. So I've given up trying to read the Psion Digest on it. After the first 2 kbs, the instructions, I have to push on the scrollwheel, hit M to select more, and wait for it to send a message to the server and then receive the next 2 kb. No zoom so as I get older it'll probably get even harder to read. But it's a nice screen.
Bottom line - now I know I'll always want a 5mx and will forget about a Palm. And if the 5mx ends up living only in my briefcase, I might take Itamar's advice and upgrade to a 7.
Susan
Susan Katz Hoffman
Pepper Hamilton LLP (215) 981-4990
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 20:47:14 +0000
From: Emil Granström
Subject: GPRS
Trygve wrote,
> About GPRS, there's one function that no one's mentioned yet... >
> Some phones allows BOTH GPRS Data and GSM Voice at the same
> time... (I really must try this with my M50 soon :-)
I dont know what you are trying to achive but active GPRS sessions will be suspended as long as you have a
voice connection and resumed when voice is disconnected.
To my knowledge you can not have "active" GPRS and voice at the sametime, by "active" I mean transfering actual data or speech information.
Brg
Emil
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Date: 12 Aug 2002 21:10:59 +0000
From: MartinYirrell
Subject: Better screen
Itamar
>Well, the S7 or netBook are still available <G><
Hey, the wife complains when I tear my pocket. After all, my _only_ reason for moving from the 3C was so i could send email. <G>
Martin
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Date: 13 Aug 2002 00:28:18 +0000
From: Peter Keene
Subject: FAXING ON GSM
Hi Guys,
For Darryl Kempster re faxing on GSM:
I haven't really been following the postings on faxing over GSM - my eyes normally glaze over when I see cell postings :-) However, I was somewhat bemused to read about your problems in sending and receiving faxes via IrDA over GSM. I have succesfully sent and received faxes from and to my netBook via an HSCSD-enabled Nokia 6210 using Fax Class Auto and Fax Class 2 (I use Fax Class 1 on my PC card modem).
Apologies if this is a dumb question, but are you enabling IrDA reception on the cell as soon as you get the fax ringing tone?
Regards,
Peter
Cape Town
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Date: 13 Aug 2002 06:22:25 +0000
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: Alternate PDA
>Date: 9 Aug 2002 06:24:49 +0000
>From: boller
>
>Subject: alternate PDA =20
>
>hi Steve
>is the Treo 270 for the common man? the website says "inna few weeks"... >cheers
>francois
Your choice could be the Treo 90 instead of the 270. The Treo 90 has a small (tiny?) keyboard and costs just a bit more than the Diamond Mako/Revo Plus.
Gary
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Date: 13 Aug 2002 06:28:26 +0000
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: Can't Receive Fax on Mobile
>Date: 9 Aug 2002 13:03:05 +0000
>From: Jason Garbutt
>
>Subject: Fax with Ericsson
>
>Hi digestives,
>
>However, I have been unable to receive a fax. >
>Any mobile fax gurus know why ?
>
>If it can send faxes, and answer an incoming fax call, I can't see why it = >can't receive a fax ?
>
>Regards,
>Jason
Jason,
Our telco carriers here issue us 2 additonal mobile phone numbers when we subscribe to mobile data services -- one number for incoming data calls and one for incoming fax calls. So I guess when you want to receive a fax via your mobile phone, the sender needs to send it to this fax number rather than your voice mobile number.
For outgoing voice, data and fax calls, you just use your regular mobile number.
By the way, the 2 extra numbers merely reside in the servers of the telco. No SIM cards/chips are issued for these 2 data and fax number.
Hope this helps.
Gary
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Date: 13 Aug 2002 06:35:10 +0000
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: Which Mobile Phone?
>Date: 9 Aug 2002 16:40:40 +0000
>From: Itamar Engelsman
>
>Subject: Mobile phone choice
>
>If I want to try the GPRS service I'll have to upgrade my phone as the 7110 = >(now over 2 years old) does not allow this. From the Vodaphone catalogue I = >note that the new Nokia 8910 is not PDA compatible, while the new 7650 is = >an "overkill" for me already using a 5MX and S7. So, the question is what = >phone to go for. Between the following phones, which one would you advise = >and why :
>
>Motorola V66i or V70
>Nokia 6310i or 8310 (the ohters are too small for me)
>Sony-Ericsson T39 or T68i
>
>Thanks in advance and bye,
>Itamar Engelsman
Itamar,
If you can afford it, the T68i is a beautiful phone that can do both HSCSD and GPRS and is also set up for the enhanced SMS where you can send video and sound on SMS.
But a good compromise, IMHO, between features and price is the 8310. I use it for data -- SMS via Phoneman Pro and email via HSCSD. Works without a hitch and connects to my Revo Plus faster than my previous Siemens S25 on IrDa. (Have not tried it on GPRS but if it works on HSCSD, it should on GPRS. The telco I use also told me they tested the 8310 on GPRS and it works well -- better than their experience with the Ericsson T68 (not the T68i).)
Gary
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Date: 13 Aug 2002 07:03:27 +0000
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: What is EFR?
>Date: 9 Aug 2002 22:20:00 +0000
>From: ALYG
(Andrew Longdon)
>
>Subject: Re: Nokia Firmware
>
>What is EFR? I tried these codes on my 6210e (Orange) and got "Result = >Unknown"
EFR is Enhanced Full Rate. The gurus in this group can give you a better explanation but as I was told, this feature imporves the send and receive sensitivity of Nokia mobile phones but eats into your battery time more.
Gary
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Date: 13 Aug 2002 18:25:48 +0000
From: "Philip Bister"
Subject: Palmtop User Magazine
It was rather disappointing that Palmtop has now become a journal to cover all PDA's. But I suppose it had to come one day.
With new models of Palm and Pocket PC's coming onto the market place, and Psion deciding not to develop new handhelds for the consumer market, it follows that there will be a decreased interest in EPOC.
As Steve says, Palmtop User is giving a roundup of where the industry is today. But in this first issue there is not enough Symbian coverage.
I for one, am hoping that Palmtop User will settle down and give a more balanced view in future issues.
Kind regards
Philip Bister
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Date: 13 Aug 2002 19:27:33 +0000
From: Trygve Henriksen
Subject: Web 2.0, Opera, HTMLEdit, Bluetooth
Greetings!
Itamar Engelsman wrote:
> Re. Web - On my S7 the version is 2.00(49). Is that the latest version or
> not ? This is by the way the same version as on my 5MX.
That's the last version, yes.
There's really only two different versions of WEB, V1.something on the S5 classic, and WEB 2.0 on the ER5 machines.
The main difference is that V2.0 is able to handle frames...
----
Arent Kits Van Heijningen wrote:
>> >Seriously, Opera have a few 'issues' with memory, specifically, it leaks to
> high heaven...<<
> There are similar reports about this behaviour on the PocketPC running
> Linux , it is an issue wich can only be solved by a major hardware revision
> (.i.e unlikely to happen for Psion's devices , except perhaps the netPad)
Nope. Opera's problem is entirely in software...
Given my (limited) knowledge of C++ I'd say it's a case of 'Destructors' NOT matching up to the constructors. (The functions that allocates and deallocates memory for assorted memory objects)
> >>The files are available because the stuff is open source Freeware.<<
> Does not run on my OsariS (missing font , can you include that ?)
I've heard the same from other Osaris users, but I'm afraid that I'm not certain what to do about it.
As far as I know, the built-in fonts on a Psion is in ONE file 'eon.gdr' in Z:\system\fonts and unless someone can extract the font....
I won't recommend copying this file from another machine, since it might crash your machine. (Particularly if copied to C:)
also, the file is over 200KB on my netBook...
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Darryl Kempster wrote:
> If I remember correctly the next Revo model (odin?) Psion was developing
> with Motorola was to have been Bluetooth enabled. But Motorola pulled out
> and it never came to production.
'Project Odin' was a smartphone, looking something like the Ericsson P800, and, I believe, was supposed to run ER6.
But there was some rumours about Psion preparing a Bluetooth enabled Revo at the same time, and that it was cancelled right before it was to go into production...
If so, there may be drivers somewhere, but not necessarily any that works with available CF or PCMCIA Bluetooth cards, since the Bluetooth hardware must have been planned integrated on the motherboard.
(Besides, the CF slot on the S5/S5mx or the drawer on the S7/netBook only supports ATA Flash memory products)
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BTW: I read in the Palmtop or whatever magazine about the 'Fossil' watch/pda.
Anyone who wants a CHEAP ($50) and better solution should look to www.webanywherewatch.com for one that costs 1/3, is easier to use and can take input(address register and time planner)
Unfortunately, it's NOT waterproof, so I have had to put it aside.
It would have been ruined the first time I had an 'accident' with the kayak. :-)
I also haven't been able to hack the synch protocol yet, so I can't connect it to my netBook...
:-)
Trygve
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