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Epoc Digest     Thu, 15 Aug 2002      Volume 01 : Number 051

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In today's Epoc Digest 27 messages:

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- Broken flange

- 7 for sale

- IR modem

- 5mx flapping keyboard: flap over

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 050

- netBook Easter Egg / nftp / Opera

- FAXING ON GSM / 7210

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 049

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 049

- RE Desparation

- Re:EPOC DIGEST V1 # 050

- Palmtop User

- Fax, 3C,

- Keyboard problem

- Update on SMS

- 5mx DIY Repair

- gsm infax

- Re: Web, Better screen, RMR, IR modem,

- Arriving in UK soon, need Psion.net / LineOne dialup number

- Re: Nokia double IR activation trick

- Re: GPRS

- Re: Palmtop User magazine

- GPRS

- Re: Mobile phone choice/Apps poll

- Re: How do I know I am using GPRS?

- Dream app: predictive text-generator for S5

- Deletion from the list of subscribers

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Date: 13 Aug 2002 21:24:55 +0000

From: "Hoffman, Susan"

Subject: Broken flange

I have the same problem with mine, and I am always able to slide the base back under the aluminum plate, but it does require some coordination.  I use a silver letter opener -- a thin table knife might work as well.  It has to be long, narrow, and very thin.  Put the edge of the blade (about 1/2 inch from the end) under the surviving flang, and work the tip under the edge of the aluminum plate.  Then "lever" the flange under the edge, using the blade something like a shoehorn.  Sometimes it helps if you slide the case closed as you are doing this.  It might take a few tries.  I've done this more times than I can count, and the machine seems no worse off, so I don't think you can do much harm.  Just keep trying different angles.

Susan Katz Hoffman

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Philadelphia, PA 19103

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Date: 13 Aug 2002 21:44:15 +0000

From: "Junaid Peracha"

Subject: 7 for sale

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Dear All,

I have finally given up on my Psioneering, after many years, first with the ii and then with the 3 and lastly with the 7.

Alas, i have finally bought a notebook. I do still have the seven and several sets of cables a psion dacom 56 k modem and compact flash card. also, have pswin cd rom and manual for the psion plus a leather case. the 7 has the dimm memory upgrade etc.

The psion is working fine most of the time, sometimes the keys behave unpredictably,  but has been around the globe with me so it is not in mint condition. Is anyone interested in buying the lot off me for a reasonable sum?

Regards

Junaid

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Date: 13 Aug 2002 22:15:02 +0000

From: Kevin Thorne

Subject: IR modem

Reply to Itamar:

<Re. IR modem - If it does not work for you, replace it. My problems are linked to where I use it. At home = problems, Oslo hotel room and office = problem free. It might well be the phone line ? Just before you throw it away (I live too far away, otherwise I would stand underneath your window when you throw it out <G>) try it somewhere else.>

I'll try anything (and I'll let you know the result once I manage to get a few uses from a different landline source), although I fail to understand why the phone line could make any difference to its operation.  Even if it did, this would be of no help to me as I can't use it reliably at home!

Regards

Kevin Thorne

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 01:45:03 +0000

From: "Chris Cooper"

Subject: 5mx flapping keyboard: flap over

Just to let you know that I took my courage in both hands and followed the guidance by Paul Dunkel on http://gamma.nic.fi/~jmietti/pda/psion5rep1.htm in order to remove the bottom half of the clamshell, which enabled me to hook in the catch on the underside of the keyboard.

The hardest part was reattaching the bottom cover: for some reason I had the bloodiest job getting three little plastic tags into their slots, and I was bending the casing and the keyboard perilously, as well as threatening to scrape the PCB constantly. I left the AA batteries in, but  inevitably I heard the beep of a hard reset in the middle of all this.

But now it's coming up to 2:30 a.m., I've restored, and all seems well. Thanks to Susan for her advice (sadly, I couldn't figure out how to follow it - maybe I had the wrong kind of paper-knife) and to anyone else whose advice is on its way as I write. Alarmingly, Susan says she's done this more often than she can remember. I'd hate to have to go through this often.

But I have some of that satisfaction I imagine you get when you've stripped a car engine down and put it together again. Trouble is, the next problem will be something quite different.

Cheers,

Chris

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 03:23:42 +0000

From: David Kramer

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 050

> From: "Chris Cooper" > I've dropped my 5mx and the keyboard is flapping loose from the base > (the lower half of the clamshell) of the machine. The machine seems to > be working fine, however, and can even be typed on (but the spacebar is > even less rsponsive than ususal).

>

> There are (or should be) two plastic catches on the underside of the

> keyboard. These hook into long slots, or tracks, running from front to > back of the base, one each side of the aluminium baseplate. After the

> accident, one of the catches has broken off and the other has come out > of its slot.

This happened to me a few times.  I was able to stick a long thin knive under the keyboard and push the tab out enough to get it back in while the keyboard was open half way. 

However, the tab on the right grew weak and it got harder and harder to put back in every time it popped out.  Finally I bit the bullet and broke off the right tab, and everything's been wonderful ever since.  The left one now stays in no problem, and the keyboard works fine.

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DDDD   David Kramer                           http://thekramers.net

DK KD  "The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most

DKK D  experts agree, is by accident. That's where we come in;

DK KD  we're computer professionals. We cause accidents."

DDDD                                          -Nathaniel Borenstein

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 03:30:10 +0000

From: Darryl Kempster

Subject: netBook Easter Egg / nftp / Opera

Managed to dig out the following from "Your EPOC" :-

"How To Find Worms

Hit ctrl-tab to bring up the file dialog in the system screen. Switch to the "Z:/" Drive and navigate to "System\Programs." Click okay. You'll be back in the main system screen and you should see the "Worms.opo" file. Run this file!"

The netBook I bought already had ROM 158 loaded onto it, but no trace of Worms. However I decided to do a hard reset and reload the ROM from the netBook CD, which turned out to be ROM 153. Checked the Z drive and lo and behold there was Worms exactly as described. Great fun to play!

Then loaded ROM156 to have a look to see if it's still there and it's not!

On another note the original Italian version of ROM 158 was reported to come with nftp bundled with it. This was later removed. BUT I've just come across it for download from the PsionTeklogix site. You have to register for free for the Partners program, then go to the Netpad development kit section and it's in the Downloads section. FTP engine version 1.31(50). Pukka!

Also Opera v3.62 release 1.04 - much nicer than my release 1.0, shows you the link when you tap on it ala WEB and has a help file this time! Plus it also includes a pdf Opera User Guide! Might finally work out how to use the thing now.

Just noticed that all the individual built in apps also come with their own User Guide. Nice touch.

Darryl

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 04:28:38 +0000

From: Darryl Kempster

Subject: FAXING ON GSM / 7210

For Peter in Cape Town who wrote

"Apologies if this is a dumb question, but are you enabling IrDA reception on the cell as soon as you get the fax ringing tone?"

Answer is yes! Used to fax all the time via IR on my old SH888 no bother. It is only the newer Ericsson models that seem to be non-IR enabled. Thanks for confirming that the Nokia 6210 at least works over IR as been unable to verify that myself. Mention stuff like that to mobile phone salesmen and they generally don't have a clue. In the UK at any rate phones are more of a fashion accessory these days. I bought my R520 off line cos I was told it was fax and data enabled - but not with a Psion it turns out! An expensive mistake I am keen not to repeat.

Itamar asked about the 7210

This is to replace the 6210i and will have Java Technology, polyphonic ringtones, MMS, and triband coverage. Due late September so might be some cheap 6210's going about then!

Darryl

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 07:03:35 +0000

From: Roman Frotz - Sun Germany - HR - HR generalist

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 049

Hi Itamar,

it was both..:-)) I surely didn't want to send the full digest! I just wanted to post a message. SORRY for that. Surely not my intention.

My message was:

Subject: Freeware alternative for plbeam

Hi all,

I just want to give you a heads up, that the guys from CPen published a freeware program on their website which extends the infrared communication (irOBEX) features in your Psion similar to what the shareware program "plbeam" already does. You can download it at:

http://www.cpen.com/Download/extra_applications/m6/psion

Best regards,

Roman

Itamar, if you want you can post it in the next digest or drop my a short notice and I'll try it a second time, hopefully with more success.

Thanks and regards,

Roman

> From: Epoc Digest

> To: Roman Frotz - Sun Germany - HR - HR generalist

> Subject: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 049

> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:08:24 +0000

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> Hi Roman,

>

> You sent the full text of the epoc Digest no. 049 back to the digest. Was this a mistake or did you try to send a message ?

>

> Best regards,

>

> Itamar Engelsman

> The Epoc team

>

>

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 07:55:48 +0000

From: Roman Frotz - Sun Germany - HR - HR generalist

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 049

Hi Itamar,

Forget my request in the mail below. I just saw my message posted in Digest #50 (little anniversary, hiphiphurra). So no need to action from your or my side required anymore.

Best regards,

Roman

> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:03:34 +0200 (MEST)

> From: Roman Frotz - Sun Germany - HR - HR generalist

> Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 049

> To: Epoc

>

> Hi Itamar,

>

> it was both..:-)) I surely didn't want to send the full digest! I just wanted to

> post a message. SORRY for that. Surely not my intention.

>

> My message was:

>

> Subject: Freeware alternative for plbeam

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> I just want to give you a heads up, that the guys from CPen published a freeware

> program on their website which extends the infrared communication (irOBEX)

> features in your Psion similar to what the shareware program "plbeam" already > does. You can download it at:

>

> http://www.cpen.com/Download/extra_applications/m6/psion

>

>

> Best regards,

> Roman

>

>

>

> Itamar, if you want you can post it in the next digest or drop my a short notice

> and I'll try it a second time, hopefully with more success.

>

>

> Thanks and regards,

> Roman

>

>

>

>

> > From: Epoc Digest

> > To: Roman Frotz - Sun Germany - HR - HR generalist

> > Subject: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 049

> > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:08:24 +0000

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> >

> > Hi Roman,

> >

> > You sent the full text of the epoc Digest no. 049 back to the digest. Was this

> a mistake or did you try to send a message ?

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Itamar Engelsman

> > The Epoc team

> >

> >

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 09:47:57 +0000

From: "Ahern, Andy (NEDL)"

Subject: RE Desparation

Reply to Chris Cooper.

Chris,

        You may find the following link useful. http://www.portal-pda.com/guides/openings5/openings5.html It is a guide to dismantling a series 5, which should be useful in re-assembly.

Cheers,

Andy.

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 10:57:40 +0000

From: Jason Garbutt

Subject: Re:EPOC DIGEST V1 # 050

Reply to: "Chris Cooper"

Subject: Desperation: 5mx flapping keyboard

Hi Chris,

>Desperation.

>

>I've dropped my 5mx and the keyboard is flapping loose from

>the base (the lower half of the clamshell) of the machine. The

>machine seems to be working fine, however, and can even be

>typed on (but the spacebar is even less rsponsive than

>ususal).

>

>There are (or should be) two plastic catches on the underside

>of the keyboard. These hook into long slots, or tracks, running

>from front to back of the base, one each side of the aluminium

>baseplate. After the accident, one of the catches has broken

>off and the other has come out of its slot.

I did the same myself about a year ago, my open Psion fell from chest height to the floor, disassembling itself but still working.

I can't remember exactly how I repaired it, but I do remember using a small screwdriver to further disassemble the Psion before I could get the slots back in. I also seem to remember plugging in the power cord in order to preserve the memory, as this disassembly involved unscrewing the battery holder.

Sorry I can't be more helpful, but hope this gets you on the right track. If I can work it out I'm sure it can't be that hard <G>.

Regards,

Jason

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 12:27:11 +0000

From: Lord Kimberley

Subject: Palmtop User

hiya all,

Steve Clack who used to publish the excellent Palmtop magazie for Psion users and the Palm User magazine for Palm  users, has now combined these in a new publication Palmtop User. See http://www.palmtop.co.uk or e-m

I have always thought that the original Palmtop magazine was a good one for Psion users. Not a "commercial magazine" stuffed with adverts, but a good quality user magazine with adverts which were for the products in the magazine. To me it looks like the new Palmtop User will continue this with the advantage of all the various PDAs and mobile platforms under one roof, which will help make comparisions.

BTW the new EPOC digest features on page 8 bottom right.

If you subscribe you could mention my name. I have know Steve C and L (the 3-lib guy) since the 3a days.

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Yours John.

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 14:03:39 +0000

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Fax, 3C,

Answer to: Marcus von Cube

Re. Fax - Of course you are right, I totally forgot about the separate number you need to receive faxes on a mobile. However, as it might cost the _user_ money, I opted anyhow for the www.yac.com solution, which costs the _sender_ money <G>, mostly my office.

Answer to: MartinYirrell

Re. 3C - Well, waste of money, you could send email from a 3C as well <G>. My S7 moves around in my briefcase or loose in my hand. To carry it in a pocket I would have to gain a few stone in weight ... <G>

Bye,

Itamar Engelsman

London, United Kingdom

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 14:03:41 +0000

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Keyboard problem

Hi  Chris,

Your problem is definitely possible to cure yourself, but NOT with brute force. I corrected it in the past for one of my colleagues. You have to open the 5MX totally and try to move the keyboard slightly to one side and bent it up a little in the middle, at the same trying to wiggle the catch back underneath the slot. You might try to use a SMALL screwdriver to do this. If the second catch is broken you will have to be careful with opening and closing it and it eventually might need repair. If you live in London I would be able to help you ..... any travelplans ?

Bye,

Itamar Engelsman

London, United Kingdom

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 14:14:20 +0000

From: Thomas F.VAN DER ZIJDEN

Subject: Update on SMS

Hi group,

I reported that I could not send SMS's to French phones when in France. Jack has succeeded in sending me some SMS's, but I still cannot do the inverse. I tried Itamar's advice to use the local message centre from SFR, but the result was that none of my SMS's arrived, not even the messages to the Dutch phones. So I reverted to my own, Dutch message centre.

But even stranger things happen. My 7110 has two memories, on the chip and in the phone. If I use the phone's memory, the phone does not recognise the caller (it just says 'appel'). If I use the SIM's memory, it does recognise the caller, but then it only shows the number, because their names are all in the phone's memory. It works fine in The Netherlands!

So... this is getting a bit OT, but I think that my Dutch network screwed something up with my chip. I have absolutely _no_ idea how.

That having said: I am still using the beta of Phoneman's plug-in for the 7110 and I am not very convinced of its functionality. I especially dislike the fact that when it has sent the SMS's, Phoneman still keeps communicating with the IR port of the 7110. I never know when it has finished its tasks. And I still have to keep in mind that the beta has a bug which can sometimes reset the Psion, if I read the memory of the phone first and then try to send an SMS.

Phoneman also sometimes refuses to send long SMS's (>160). Yes, I have enabled that function. It refuses to send them at random. E-mail's SMS functionality CAN send the same SMS.

When will they finally fix it for my 7110? I guess never, because it is now an 'old' phone.

Anyway, enough ramblings. The Psion's keyboard still is a great help for SMS!

Re: registration tied to the Psion.

I have two questions on this.

1. Why did Psion include this unique ID in every Psion? Was it meant for registration purposes for shareware? Psion itself uses the registration number for reparation purposes (combined with the RMA) which is not identical to the unique ID in the ROM.

2. Arent, could you confirm that the unique ID of your Osaris is 12 times 0, or something general like that? It seems that Oregon did not bother to give unique numbers to their machines. A big advantage for Osaris owners who change their machines! ;-)

Yours truly,

Thomas van der Zijden

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 15:34:33 +0000

From: Astrid  Stappenbeck

Subject: 5mx DIY Repair

Re: 5mx DIY Repair

To: Chris Cooper

>I've dropped my 5mx and the keyboard is flapping loose from the base of the machine. There >are (or should be) two plastic catches on the underside of the keyboard. These hook into long >slots, or tracks, running from front to back of the base, one each side of the aluminium >baseplate. After the accident, one of the catches has broken off and the other has come out of >its slot. >Is it perhaps possible to lift the aluminium baseplate (on the left-hand side)to give the catch >room to hook onto it?

>Does anyone with any experience of this have any tips for me? Is this something I absolutely >should not attempt to fix myself? (I am the world's most unhandyman).

Should I ever attempt to open the 5mx myself I will have a very good look (again) on

Ruey Loons pages.

http://www.portal-pda.com/guides/openings5/openings5.html

There he provides a detailed guide with lots of photos of how to dismantle a 5 (including the keyboard). The purpose for writing such a guide was the often mentioned screen-failure-problem and how to solve without replacing the whole screen. But you might find the needed instruction for your keyboard problem as well.

Good luck!

Astrid

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 15:43:46 +0000

From: Jack

Subject: gsm infax

Hi Itamar,   Subject: In faxes

Your suggestion of using a third party faxmailer, >www.yac.com< for instance, looks good to me.

I never liked to have to fire up both the irDA mobile phone and psion as soon as an incoming fax rang me to do so, nor did I like to hang my psion with Email as a permanent fax answering machine.

So I tried some web based solutions; www.Comparatel.fr became my favorite; it allows to download AND/OR forward incoming faxes (as attached .tiff or .gif files that Mnbview convert a treat).

Usually one as to pay (PRO) to get real time SMS or email warning of each incoming msg.

For this I use an €1.5/month option from my gsm operator which :

- gave me an infax # (different from the vocal#)

- send one SMS to tell me each time a fax reach this fax number.

- forward the incoming fax(es) to my Comparatel inbox (from where I'll download and/or forward them as attachement(s) to email).

I would really like to read more from experienced fellows psionists  on their infax solutions.

Psionilly

Jack

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 16:14:03 +0000

From: Rolf Vonau

Subject: Re: Web, Better screen, RMR, IR modem,

Reference is made to the mail in the EPOC DIGEST V1 # 049:

Itamar Engelsman wrote at 11.08.2002 (> ):

> Re. Web - On my S7 the version is 2.00(49). Is

> that the latest version or not ? This is by the

> way the same version as on my 5MX.

Hi Itamar,

the German version on my 5mxPro is 1.05(319).

I could not find the version 2.00(49) in the Internet (www.psion.com and www.psion-gmbh.com).

Please give me hints where I can find this version.

TIA

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Rolf

Munich

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Date: 14 Aug 2002 18:46:36 +0000

From: Owen H.Morgan

Subject: Arriving in UK soon, need Psion.net / LineOne dialup number

Hi gang.

If the weather suits, I'll be in Shetland within a few days. I'm now in Ålesund in NW Norway making some last preparations and waiting for a more favourable wind direction for the crossing than the present south-westerly.

I have a Psion.net (LineOne) Internet account which I signed up for years ago, and as the e-mail address and POP server works, I assume it is still active. When I get to the UK, I'll need to connect to the Internet via an UK dialup number which works via GSM (with a cash card). Does anyone here have the dialup number for Psion.net / LineOne, and can you confirm is this works via GSM?

I'd also like suggestions for which cash card to buy (Ericsson T39m if that makes any difference) and alternate suggestions for free ISPs which works via GSM if there is any reason I shouldn't use Psion.net. Can I use UK2 which Rick Gillyon mentioned via GSM from the UK? I tried connecting to the UK2 number from Norway, but that didn't work.

From Shetland, I'll be heading south via Fair Isle, the Orkneys, The Caledonian Canal and Irish sea, and hopefully spending the winter somewhere on the south coast of Ireland or possibly Wales or Cornwall. Please if any of you live along my route or will be in these areas when i pass through, don't hesitate to contact me. I'd be delighted to meet fellow Psioneers.

Thought for the day:

If your feet smell and your nose runs, you were built upside down.

Owen

<62°28.31'N 6°09.1'E

Brosundet, Ålesund

North-west Norway

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311

c/o Idrettsveien 6, 3188 HORTEN, Norway