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Epoc Digest Fri, 13 Sep 2002 Volume 01 : Number 073
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Sent to: 604 subscribers
In today's Epoc Digest 29 messages:
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- CHANGE OF DIGEST ADDRESS
- EPOCChat
- Glitch in TIME
- Init and Data Strings
- Revo Plus screen
- GPRS, 1GB CF, Message folder,
- Re: Wallpaper
- Wallpaper
- Wallpaper / Unlocking TomeRaider files
- Re: Wallpapers
- H/PC MACHINES
- GPRS Sheet, 5FX for presentations
- 1Gb CF, PDF thoughts
- Re: Digest mail address
- S7 cleaning of screen
- Finally succeeded to get GPRS going (sending and receiving)
- What happened? ( v)
- RE: Tip for reading the digest :) (4 Jason)
- RE: Tip for reading the digest :) (4 Astrid)
- Re: HP Jornada 720/728 line
- Re: Digest mail address
- Old Digests
- Nokia 6210 GPRS settings
- Re: Cbeam / IrOBEX
- Re: Psions & Fanzine
- Jornada 720
- Notification
- GPRS price
- Re: What happened?
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Date: 10 Sep 2002 20:43:31 +0100
From: Peter Keene
Subject: CHANGE OF DIGEST ADDRESS
Hi Guys,
For Rolf re change of digest address:
Give Itamar a break Rolf, a message informing all subscibers of the change of address for the digest went out on 19 July 2002. I still have a copy of it.
Regards,
Peter
Cape Town
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Date: 10 Sep 2002 21:09:09 +0100
From: "Simon Wolf"
Subject: EPOCChat
Itamar and others,
EPOCChat is a weekly meeting that takes place in a Java based chat room where EPOC user can get together for an hour or so and chat about EPOC-related topics or other matters of interest. I would strongly recommend that people have a look at http://www.epocchat.com/ for more information and it would be great to have more people drop in. The chats take place on Sundays at 6pm UK/BST (5pm GMT) but if people want then I guess that they could use the chat room whenever they wanted.
I'll not be around for the next three chats but there are plenty of friendly faces so do pop in.
Kind regards.
Simon Wolf
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Date: 10 Sep 2002 23:56:32 +0100
From: PaulDDB
Subject: Glitch in TIME
Has anyone experienced this glitch - if I go to TIME (Extras bar) and set Home City as Los Angeles, it shows the time difference in London and other European cities as zero, and distances as distances from London.
I can edit a chosen city and change it to the correct time difference, but can't do that for every city in Europe.
Triad a soft reset with no luck - anyone have an answer, or is it *time* for a full hard reset and then a backup restore?
Paul Bishop (on holiday in London)
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Date: 11 Sep 2002 03:30:27 +0100
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: Init and Data Strings
Rolf,
>How would you like to have your HSCSD served, Sir? Autobauding or = >non-autobauding - V.34, V.110 or V.120 - any channel coding preferences? >
You mean I actually have a choice? That is great. Let me try and see if I can narrow down the choices by answering your questions. And many, many thanks for the help:
>In case you'd like to have a 'highest speed or nothing' =
>string I need to know your mobile network operator.
This is Globe Telecom in the Philippines.
>I need to know the brand and model of your mobile phone
Nokia 8310
>and whether your Internet account allows you to use your ISP's ISDN nodes.
>
Yes, I believe I can.
Gary
__________________________________
www.edsamail.com.ph
CHEAPER than free email!
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Date: 11 Sep 2002 09:54:18 +0100
From: "Kevin Okell"
Subject: Revo Plus screen
I recently bought a Revo Plus and the touch screen is not as 'firm' as my Revo. What I mean is that the surface sags a little when I touch it with the stylus and is therefore not as sensitive. It's not the hinge; I can see the reflection in the surface 'bend' as I touch it which makes me think maybe a protective layer isn't as tight to the screen as it should be. Does anyone know if there's any way of peeling off the protective layer and re-fixing it?
Thanks, Kev Okell
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Date: 11 Sep 2002 10:58:10 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: GPRS, 1GB CF, Message folder,
Answer to: Kevin Collins
Re. GPRS - You should really keep track for a while of each session, the number of bytes in and out, the time used and how many emails in and out. After several days you will get a clearer picture of the required bytes and costs. Within the UK I would first use my free minutes with normal GSM, and if finished probably still use that unles there are large files or emails to download or send. However, in Europe (heading for Denmark at the moment) each minute per GSM is Gbp 0.70 which makes GPRS a much cheaper option. And of course the speed will save a businesman precious time.
This morning at the airport I downloaded with GPRS 11 messages from 2 mailboxes, almost 132,000 bytes in 3 minutes. Via GSM this would have been 7 or 8 minutes. GPRS costed me 30 pence. I came to the same conclusion, GPRS away, GSM at home.
Answer to: David Lir
Re. 1GB CF - It migh be cheaper to buy a spare 5MX witha 128 Kb CF than a 1Gb CF <G>
Answer to: Jason Garbutt
Re. Message folder - No, the S5 and 5MX work differently and I had already forgotten about the S5. Mike already explained this in an earlier digest.
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: 11 Sep 2002 14:20:09 +0100
From: David Steer
Subject: Re: Wallpaper
Date: 09.09.2002 21:59:45
From: Keith Giles
Subject: Re: Wallpaper/1GB CF Card
To Steve & Keith Giles,
Sorry about the wallpapers guys! I am responsable for many of the Star Trek images. Origionally I developed them for a TuCows competition (which I won!) and continued a theme as they seemed popular.
That aside I have other wallpapers in Psion format on www.pocketiq.com allong with a program (PsiWallpaper) for managing them (Keith, you already know about this as I have spoken to you in the past!). I have added more wallpapers to this site and they are not all Star Trek!
The Issue with xnView is that it only outputs mbm files in up to 16 grey format (that's all I have managed to get it to do to date) - not good for Series 7/NetBook. I use bmconv that came with the development kit and it performs very will at converting bmp files to mbm format: much better results than MBMView which, though MBMView is very good when converting images to mbm format 'noise' creeps in that reduces the quality of the image and incerases its size a bit. If anybody wants the bmconv program (runs on a command line) then e-mail me directly. I have been making wallpapers for several years and would be glad to help anybody with the process.
For thoes that asked some good sites for wallpapers might be:
www.pda.tucows.com/epoc/wallpapers5.htm
www.pscience5.net/Freeware/Wallpaper_Logos.htm
www.organizer4you.ch/netbookwallpapers2.htm
David Steer
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Date: 11 Sep 2002 14:41:09 +0100
From: "Tony Cabot"
Subject: Wallpaper
Hi Steve, I have had good luck using digital photos (of grandchildren in my case) reduced in size to about 200KB by xnview or another programs and saved as JPG on the PC. Xnview will not save files in the Psion format in color as it was designed for the Psion 5. Then I transfer the files to the NetBook and change them to MBMs using MBM View. The files are saved in the System/wallpaper directory on my D Drive. I also use a program called PsiWallpaper from http://www.pocketiq.com because it changes the wallpaper each day (or every time the machine is turned on) and I can also cycle through the pictures if someone wants to see how beautiful are my grandchildren.
Tony Cabot
*****Original Message*****
Date: 9 Sep 2002 17:05:54 +0100
From: "Steve Hodgson"
Subject: Wallpaper
Does anyone know of any slightly decent sources of wallpaper for a
netBook? I've got really bored of the standard epoc 'palmprint' and my
own efforts with photoshop were dire! I just fancy an attractive
abstract graphic but so many of the downloadable wallpapers seem to
feature Star Trek or similar - talk about confirming stereotypes about ourselves!
Beam me up...
Steve Hodgson
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Date: 11 Sep 2002 17:24:33 +0100
From: Astrid Stappenbeck
Subject: Wallpaper / Unlocking TomeRaider files
re: Wallpaper
Steve Hodgson wrote:
> Does anyone know of any slightly decent sources of wallpaper for a netBook
I like best epocArt (on my 5mx but also made for a 7). It can be found on the website below together with some other wallpapers (exclusively for 7) and tips for making your own.
http://www.pscience5.net/Freeware/Wallpaper_Logos.htm
Wallpapers are also on
www.psionpage.ch
On the top right you'll find "Wallpaper" and below that a link to "Netbook" (there are also very nice ones for revo or 5 in the wallpaper section).
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re: Unlocking TomeRaider files
David Lir wrote:
>Anyone know why TomeRaider keeps 'forgetting' that a given file has been unlocked? I must >have unlocked the Webster's dictionary 10 times by now!
It happens when you don't close the current tr file before you open another. There are two ways to avoid reregistering:
1. Always close the first file before you open another one.
or (and that's what I did)
2. Use the Open Multiple Files option, i.e. open the second tr file with Fn+Enter (or change your system settings to Enter).
3. Write to tomeraider and wait for an upgrade (only joking)
Bye,
Astrid
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Date: 11 Sep 2002 18:11:37 +0100
From: "Steve Hodgson"
Subject: Re: Wallpapers
> Now if you're into cycling, I have
> wallpaper files for a 1965 Moulton Standard, 1998 Land Rover (the
> bike bike, not the car), and a generic standard diamond-frame bike. :
> -)
Thanks to all for offers of wallpapers - I've been inundated and will
check them out over the next few days.
Keith,
Email me the generic bike (and/or more) off-digest. I should just get
a photo of my Cannondale and use that - yum yum. Of course, I'd have
to clean it first, that's the perils of Scottish mud vs. Californian
sunshine I guess.
> I discovered XnView. With PhotoShop and it, I've been able to convert
> something I did in PhotoShop into an mbm file, copy to my 5mx/Mako, and
use Sketch to get a wallpaper file. If you want to know more, just e-
mail me and I'll try to explain my method.
I thought one of the advantages of XnView is that it can create mbm
files. I'm surprised you need to go through Sketch to get a wallpaper
file, you can just put the mbm into a folder called wallpaper under the
system folder.
Re: 1GB cards
One thing that really eats up space if you have it is routeplanner and
CityMap files. I tend to load on town plans and never take them off,
plus leave on all the major scottish cities.
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For Peter Keene,
Something about BlueDroplets just sounds soothing and great, can you
mail me a copy?
Regards,
Steve Hodgson
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Date: 11 Sep 2002 18:59:25 +0100
From: Peter Keene
Subject: H/PC MACHINES
Hi Guys,
For Rolf re H/PC machines:
You wrote: "...given that H/PC now consists of a single HP model and a single NEC model."
Err.. not quite. There's also the Intermec 6651 (manufactured by Sharp) and numerous other vertical market machines.
Regards,
Peter
Cape Town
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Date: 11 Sep 2002 22:24:11 +0100
From: Kevin Thorne
Subject: GPRS Sheet, 5FX for presentations
My thanks to Itamar for the GPRS Sheet file (this time it opened up on my S7 OK) and also for pointing me towards 5FX for managing my digital photos. It occured to me that I could also use this program for colour presentations on my S7 as it has the functionality I require to do this. I'll need to get approximately 200 A4 pages scanned into image files to do this. As I don't have a PC and a scanner does anyone know the best place to get this done and approximately what it would cost? I'd guess scanning this amount of paper would involve a fair amount of work!
Regards
Kevin Thorne
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Date: 11 Sep 2002 22:24:41 +0100
From: Kevin Thorne
Subject: 1Gb CF, PDF thoughts
Reply to Keith Giles:
<Re: 1GB CF Card. When I bought my first Psion, a 5ive, I was amazed (being a PC user) at how tiny all the apps were. I assume they all
are now. Just what the hell do all you folks have on your Psions
which would require a 1GB card? You must be creating/saving tons of
files - no? Sounds like each of you are a "Library of Congress" or
"The British Library". :-)>
Not quite, but you'd be surprised at just how much data some of us store! My 340Mb IBM Microdrive is now 90% full and I'm reading with great interest the threads about the 1Gb CF. Sure, the 1Gb Microdrive is VERY much cheaper (if one has a netBook/S7 to allow its use) but it also sucks battery life and of course is no use to a 5mx user. Just a few price comparisons I've noted whilst recently surfing various memory media sites:
1Gb IBM Microdrive - £188
1 Gb CF card - £680 (second mortgage required or sell your wife!)
512 Mb CF card - £234
256 Mb CF card - £75
128 Mb CF card - £50
I seem to remember a time when a very rough equation for CF prices was a price hike of about 50% for each 100% increase in capacity. Now this seems to go the other way!
Reply to David Steer:
<Just some thoughts about PDF
I have been playing with the PDF print to file driver from mBrainSoftware: www.mbrainsoftware.com and believe that this will solve the problem of sending compatable files by e-mail. I print my Word document as a PDF file, attach and send that. Since there are PDF viewers for all platforms this solves my conversion problem. If the file is for read purposes only then there should be no problems. If you want to send a file for editing then additional PDF software would be required. I suggest that this is a viable alternative to nConvert. You can use the beta version till October.>
I mentioned this very recently on the Digest and also said how impressed I was with it. Very importantly there is also an ER6 version which means finally my Nokia 9210 can actually print to some sort of file. Alas, it is not (yet) possible, as you say, to further edit the resulting PDF file, which I still need to be able to do if sending from the Nokia. I could easily do this on my 5mx by selecting "print to file" which would print the output to a simple text file, which could also be read by most platforms AND be further edited as required.
Regards
Kevin Thorne
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Date: 11 Sep 2002 22:37:55 +0100
From: Eric de Bruijn
Subject: Re: Digest mail address
Hi Folks,
Rolf Brunsting wrote in response to Itamar:
<< There was most definitely a message about the address change on the digest >>
< I've trawled through my EPOC Digest database, which starts with issue no. 18, and haven't found an official notification to all subscribers of the address change. The footer of digest no. 35 is the first to mention the new address in the "How to subscribe..." footer. I doubt many will have noticed it - I certainly didn't. It's that Mike Fellhauer asked the question that I now see that digest staff have been using the new address already. It would have escaped my attention, otherwise. >
Rolf,
The addresss change was not announced in the digest itself, but in a seperate mail from Itamar with subject "Epoc digest admin update." You possibly missed this mail, or the mail missed you, or whatever. Anyway, I forwarded it to you off Digest. Please note that it needs some scrolling to reach the address change announcement...
HTH,
Eric de Bruijn
Rotterdam
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 08:57:55 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: S7 cleaning of screen
How do the S7 and netBook users clean their screen ?
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 09:20:14 +0100
From: "Marios Haridimou"
Subject: Finally succeeded to get GPRS going (sending and receiving)
Hi all,
I finally managed to get E-mail going over GPRS!
I used terminal emulation to send an AT+CGDCONT? to the T39m to have it
return the Data Init string above.
Number to dial: *99***CID#
Init String: ATZ
Data Init String: AT+CGDCONT=CID,"IP","APN","",0,0
where :
CID = 1
APN = cytanet.net
Many thanks to all especially to Alexei who send me his settings.
Take care,
Marios
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 14:47:03 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: What happened? ( v)
Anyone know why the subject header of one of my posts in the last digest changed from this:
HPC and all that stuff (4 Steve)
into this:
HPC =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=10?=v and all that stuff (4 Steve)?
I just checked in my Sent box and the message looks fine - am I the only one seeing this? FYI, I wrote the original message in Word and pasted it into Email.
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David Lir - \\:>{o>
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 14:47:10 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: RE: Tip for reading the digest :) (4 Jason)
Jason wrote:
"Hi David,
I have a simpler solution using Macro5, I've remapped the Infra-Red screen button to do a page-down - I can hold the Psion in my left hand with my thumb over the edge screen and tap the the IR button as I need to, which works well for me for single-handed reading (eg. when in the washroom!)"
Thanks for the tip, Jason.
I still prefer DrB5Read for these reasons: it uses the hard keys - which feel much better to me than tapping a soft-icon; your method only pages down, I especially don't like the idea of pushing my thumb - on a regular basis - against the side of the screen - I'm afraid I might crack it!; I've already got the IrDA softkey mapped to ExAb; DrB5Read pages down and up, as well as offering *one* key access to all of the following: backlight, toolbar toggle, zoom cycling, start of file, end of file, scroll 2 lines only, show time. Quite a bit more useful than a simple page-down, wouldn't you say?
Thanks much for the suggestion though :)
BTW, I thought I was the only one who brings a Psion into the washroom - nice to see someone else admitting to it. ;>)
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David Lir - \\:>{o>
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 14:47:14 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: RE: Tip for reading the digest :) (4 Astrid)
Astrid wrote:
"Didn't come across that one but I have Biblioreader installed"
Thanks for that, Astrid. I'll give it a try!
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David Lir - \\:>{o>
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 14:47:17 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: HP Jornada 720/728 line
Mick wrote in response to Steve:
> How is the screen for usability?
Excellent, as good as a decent laptop - way better than the series 7/ netbook IMHO."
Not to be argumentative, but: many owners of the 720 have found the screen to be *noticeably fuzzier* than a good TFT. Also, most 720's have dimming in the lower corners of their display, and, of course, the passive display of the 720 must exhibit at least some *blurring* when scrolling or displaying animation. Though the screen on the 720 is far better than the 5mx screen in dim lighting, and it may be better than the screen of the netBook too, I doubt that it is as good as a decent laptop. Most any decent laptop today will have a TFT display fitted which should be *significantly* sharper and faster than the *passive* display of the 720. Not that I disagree with your overall evaluation, mind you. I certainly think the 720's display is *more than* good enough.
"> Without a Psion-style hinge does it not rock backwards in use?
Not at all IME, plus you have the advantage of being able to change the screen angle."
The 720 certainly has a *very* durable hinge. Still some have reported that it *does* rock backwards *for them* when they tap - probably because many have also reported that the 720 requires a relatively hard push to register a tap. I didn't notice this myself though when I tested it out. Keep in mind though that despite the 720's obvious robust design, I have read many reports of keyboards (on the 680 through the 720) failing due to small amounts of liquid splashing onto the keyboard (the 5mx uses a rubber membrane, with little round rubber 'volcanos' or dimples to provide its bounce, but the 720 uses a true mechanical design (this is what I've heard - I haven't taken one apart) and consequently there are probably far more points of entry for liquid to enter into and fry either the keyboard circuitry or wiring or the motherboard or what-have-you. The 720 has the superior keyboard, in terms of feel, but I do think it is a bit more delicate in some ways. Also, similar to the sometimes maligned 5mx, many Jornada HPC owners online have also reported having to replace their handheld's screen after only a year and a half or two years due to premature digitizer atrophy, malfunction or death. I've also heard of Jornada screen cables breaking too. I'm sure most owners never will have to experience these problems - but it's not just Psions which have such problems - unfortunately :( Still I am a big fan of the 720 and 728! (But I like my 5mx even more!)
As we all know the 5mx has a fixed-angle display. Though this has its drawbacks it also has its benefits. I've also found that my Palmtec hard-case provides 3 angle adjustments, 4 if you include taking the Psion out of the case :) The 5mx out of the case sits at just the correct angle to perfectly pick up glare from bright overhead lighting (aaargh!) - however one of the Palmtec-provided angles nearly always eliminates this, almost entirely. Just another reason to buy a Palmtec case. (watch out for their screen-protectors though - they're the woprotectors I've ever seen, absolutely and totally worthless!
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David Lir - \\:>{o>
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 14:47:23 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: Digest mail address
Just to confirm what Michael said: I definitely received the update message which included mention of the address change. In the event of another change of address it might be best if subscribers were notified with *a separate email just announcing that change*, with an *obvious* subject header, something like: "Epoc Digest Email Address Change!!!". ;>) I can certainly see how Rolf would have missed the first notification - buried in an update many of us probably only *skimmed* over.
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David Lir - \\:>{o>
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 14:47:26 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Old Digests
Since a couple of subscribers have posted messages recently requesting old digests be resent to them, I'd like to point out that the best way to request old digests is to simply email
and request that a member of the Digest Team resend them. Old digests (usually lagging about a week behind) are also available on the Psioneering website for viewing or saving to disk. I had to have an old digest sent to me, and Michael of the Digest Team was gracious enough to get it out to me quite promptly.
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David Lir - \\:>{o>
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 14:56:59 +0100
From: Simsingerm
(Simon Alexander)
Subject: Nokia 6210 GPRS settings
Can anyone tell me the GPRS settings for the following combination: Phone: Nokia 6210
Computer: Revo Plus
ISP: T-online (Germany)
Although the above works very reliably for my emails I thought for fun I would try and see if I can notice the difference in the speed!
Also can anyone recommend a Revo friendly (preferaby free) email service? As I said I currently use T-online very succesfully with my Revo and Nokia but my wife would like an email address that she can access with her Revo (using T-online as ISP). I have FreeUK email still in England that works very quiclkly and reliably to pick up emails but does not allow me to send if I do not use them as my ISP.
My thanks to Itamar and the team for keeping the Digest going. I have been a subscriber and regular reader since I bought my first Psion in 1998. Although I think I know most of the usual tips I still come accross the occasional useful snipit!
regards,
Simon (mostly Germany)
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 16:01:52 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Cbeam / IrOBEX
Dear Thomas,
<< Does anybody know if CBeam (or perhaps even PiBeam) works on devices with versions lower than ER5? I think not, because it needs ER5 for the 'truncated' IRObex protocol and it adds the rest ... >>
Don't know why, but people start to post strange things on electronic discussion fora when infrared data communication is the subject - your "truncated IrOBEX" included. Fact is that Psion has followed the IrOBEX specification of the Infrared Data Association (IrDA). There's nothing truncated or incomplete about Psion's implementation.
I trust you're familiar with the way you can place a Sheet table or graph in a Word document. That's object embedding - Sheet data (the object) is placed within the data that forms the document. The only thing Word does is to reserve a window for display. It's Sheet that handles the embedded data and ensures that the table/graph is displayed within the window.
IrOBEX allows you to do something similar by passing objects between the applications running on two devices. Requirements are that:
(a) The application(s) have hooks into IrOBEX,
and,
(b) There is an application on the receiving device able to handle the object sent by the application of the sending device.
Psion's Contacts application has such hooks into IrOBEX and is able to send and receive objects containing data in vCard format. Any application on any IrOBEX device able to handle vCard objects can exchange data with the Contacts application.
The nice thing about IrOBEX is that it's (a) a device independent exchange mechanism (b) a data independent exchange mechanism and (c) infinitely expandable. Install a new IrOBEX aware application and the range of objects you can exchange increases. Without there being a need to make modifications to IrOBEX. What IrOBEX passes on are objects - the computer equivalent of freight containers. IrOBEX doesn't care what's inside the 'container' object.
Reason why you can't exchange a file using IrOBEX is that the standard applications on a Series 5mx, or other, don't treat a file as an object. That's where plBeam comes in - install it and you have an application that does. When Cbeam does the same, it's Cbeam that's responsible for handling the object that is a file.
What's more, two people could play chess against each other when somebody creates a Series 5mx chess game able to treat moves as objects and exchange them using IrOBEX. When a chess game for PalmOS, PocketPC or Windows XP support the same 'move object' the wits of (say) a chess playing WinXP laptop owner can be pitted against those of a Series 5mx owner. Even though the two chess applications are as different as chalk and cheese.
As for the Osaris, IrOBEX was introduced with EPOC Release 5 while the Osaris runs Release 4.
--
Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - On holidays in the UK
Message written on a bench outside Durham Cathedral where I've paid my respects to St. Cuthbert and the Venerable Bede, both buried here.
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 16:02:00 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Psions & Fanzine
Dear Ashley,
<< Was very interesting recently seeing peoples top 5 apps and how they use them. Has led me to wonder how the 570 odd members reading this use their EPOC machines, are they series 5, 5mx MC218's ... >>
My current PDA stable consists of one each of the Psion Series 5, Psion Series 5mx, Ericsson MC218, Psion Revo and Psion Series 7. The list would have been longer had I not donated all my Psion Series 3 gear to the Delft Museum of Technology. Which included a 1 MByte Series 3a, a 2 MByte Series 3a and a 2 MByte Series 3a with the 'wood effect' casing. Donating old PDA gear to a worthy cause is something I'd like to recommend to all EPOC Digest readers.
<< I subscribe to Palmtop have done from Issue 1 (have them all if someone can give them a good home) but surely if they can no longer produce a bimonthly EPOC only issue with all their contacts and feelers, what makes others think they can >>
The purpose of the proposed 'Fanzine' is to refresh the parts Palmtop can't reach (to paraphrase an old Heineken advertisement slogan).
<< regularly read Tucows, PDAGeek, Buzz, but Epoc news other than ER6 is about as rare as rocking horse droppings. So where is the content of this Fanzine going come from >>
The three on-line resources you mention are US based and reflect US insularity.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - On holidays in the UK
Message written from the 'Bede's World' exhibition - Jarrow
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 16:03:37 +0100
From: Jim Watson-Gove
Subject: Jornada 720
Mick,
<<How is the screen for usability?
Excellent, as good as a decent laptop - way better than the series 7/ netbook IMHO.>>
Darn!!! Now you went and done it. After reading this I did a search on Jornada 720 & 728. I also checked messages on the C$erve Palmtop forum where a guy was talking to a gal about the differences between the two. Then checked Amazon.com and found they are selling the 720 for $459. I went ahead and ordered one. I've been lusting for a new toy and guess the 720 is it (at least I resisted the 728 at $999). I sold 11 paintings at the reception of my last show so will spend some of the ill gotten gains on the HP.
Talking up the deal with a poet friend who is trying to move into the PDA world (she wants a Psion but is scared off with what Psion is doing). She asked a question that I forgot to ask as I print from my Dell. Will the 720 print to a printer direct (cable connection)? I know the earliest versions of WinCE didn't support printing.
jim - oakland
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 16:03:45 +0100
From: Jim Watson-Gove
Subject: Notification
<<"At the same time we would like to update you with a change in the email address of the digest from the above mentioned one to :
&nbetc, etc>>
As scattered as I am (many irons in different fires) I missed this big time.
The next time I sent to the list, I received a very polite reminder from the "staff" which set me straight and the "staff" person rerouted my message to the list. Great team is all I can say.
I'm back on course but still seem to be referring to the list as UPS5 elsewhere (sorry, Itamar<g> - will change the title in my contacts to-list entry to read EPOC DIGEST to remind me <vbs>).
jim - oakland
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 17:48:03 +0100
From: "Edgar Brazda Ph.D."
Subject: GPRS price
>>You're quite right on this IMHO. As far as my limited experience (only just over a week on GPRS) goes, and comparing mails vs. counters, there *is* quite a bit of "overhead":<<
I was surprised to learn that my GPRS contract (16 euro/month) includes 5 MB transfer for free. It covers all my E-mail and WAP demand even with the "overheads".
Edgar, Budapest
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Date: 12 Sep 2002 23:38:00 +0100
From: Rolf Vonau
Subject: Re: What happened? ( v)
David Lir wrote at 12 Sep 2002 14:47:03 +0100:
< Anyone know why the subject header of one of my
<posts in the last digest changed from this:
< HPC and all that stuff (4 Steve)
< into this:
< HPC =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=10?=v and all that stuff (4 Steve)?
Hi David,
This is a relic of old internet, having the possibility to transmit 7-bit-words only.
The Internet providers convert all unvisible characters in the subject field, for example linefeed=ASC(6) or special signs for example ä,ö,ü,ø etc. beeing in the ASCII table behind the #127, into the ASCII number in hex format and send they as number between the strings "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=" and "?=". Some providers and Email programs can not reconvert this signs into the original ones. So you had have the character ASC(16) (decimal 16 = hex 10) in your subject.
< FYI, I wrote the original message in Word and pasted it into Email.
This is the reason. If you write in Word, be sure to copy pure text in the Email, only.
Best Regards
Rolf
Munich
http://home.arcor.de/rhvonau/index.htm
BTW: As I compiled the digest #72, I had have to correct your subject manually before sending. But I overlooked this. Sorry.
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