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Epoc Digest Tue, 29 Oct 2002 Volume 01 : Number 100
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In today's Epoc Digest 12 messages:
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- Digest no. 100
- Demise of orange.net; 14.4k on GSM; Fax with Nokia 6310i
- Lieuwe & PdfPrinter
- Best place to buy psions (on EPOC DIGEST V1 # 098)
- Re: More things to do with a Psion
- Macro 5 for any other OS?
- Psion Marketing
- ExAb now has sequential copy/paste
- Jotter - corrupt file
- Archiving Agenda
- Battery life, WinCE,
- Re: Macro 5 for any other OS?
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Date: 29 Oct 2002 02:17:10 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: Digest no. 100
Dear Friends,
Who could have thought when I started the Epoc Digest that we would be this succesfull. Sure, the ups5 digest reached close to 1,000 issues, but we did not have their list of subscribers. We have grown from the first digest of about 30 ex ups5 subscribers (the active ones) to almost 650. It is great to see that even when Psion decided to quit the PDA market the users of EPOC machines continue to keep together in forums like ours (and newsgroups) to share our experiences, programs, macros and view of the future.
Undoubtly the success of this digest is a result of an international co-operation of 5 operators, all known to you. We each take our 2-week "duties" and take care of all matters. However, I think it is Rolf Vonau more than anyone else who made it all possible with his programming skills, creating a full fledged program to run the digest on our Psions (and we use a S5, 5MX, Revo and S7 ...). Also thank you Nicole Carbonara, Michael Degn and Jason Garbutt, who sacrifice theirs spare time to compile and to send the Digest. And of course, it is also due to all the contributors to the digest, continueing to write messages and exchange (sometimes heated) opinions.
I started this message with "Friends". Even though the subscribers come from all parts of the world and will probably never meet, I for one still feel we are all friends as if we all lived in the same town.
We will continue this digest for as long as there is interest from the subscribers. Eventually I suppose we will widen the scope to the discussion - already started - about replacing our Psion's, but hopefully that is still some time away.
Enjoy the digest and let's go for the next 100 issues.
In name of all the team members,
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
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Date: 28 Oct 2002 21:32:30 +0100
From: Mike McConnell
Subject: Demise of orange.net; 14.4k on GSM; Fax with Nokia 6310i
To: Rolf Brunsting
<<<< ... However, as you will no longer be able to connect with Orange as an ISP, use of their SMTP server for *sending* mail will require "SMTP Authentication" which is not supported by the Psion ... >>>>
<<That's not the case - check out the XJMail client.>>
Yes, indeed. Perhaps I should have said "SMTP Authentication which is not supported by the Psion's built-in Email application". I suspect it is somewhat easier to change the SMTP server setting to that of the connecting ISP than to install the XJMail client, which if I recall correctly requires a rudimentary understanding of Japanese :-)
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To: Kevin Thorne
<<This got me thinking. I've just realised after upgrading from a Nokia 8210 to the 9210 back in the summer that I'm still using the same data string in my S7 modem settings. Works fine on linking the 9210 to my S7 but am I restricting the 9210's faster modem to 9.6k by using the old data string (AT&F&K4)? I'm on Orange Everyday 50 using just the bog standard GSM connection.>>
To use the higher speed connections, include the Data strings:
[14.4k] - AT+CBST=14,0,1
[28.8k] - AT+CBST=16,0,1
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To: All
Has anyone managed to send a fax with the Nokia 6310i? If I send a fax with my 5mx and this phone the resulting document is unreadable and only the first page is sent. The same fax sent with my old Ericsson A1018s with DI27 modem is perfect.
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Regards,
Mike [Dundee, Scotland] __________________________________________
Mobile Phone & SMS: +44 (0)7870 236984
Mobile Fax: +44 (0)7977 156138
Web: http://www.mikemcc.net
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Date: 28 Oct 2002 21:55:55 +0100
From: "Simon Wolf"
Subject: Lieuwe & PdfPrinter
David,
Where is Lieuwe de Vries?
A recent post in the Psion Place forums was from a new Psion user who has exactly the same problem as you. If you hear anything other than through the digest could you please let me know so that I can pass the information on please.
Price of PDFPrinter
As a recent convert to PDF documents I am keen to use PdfPrinter on my netBook and I would pay £15 or £20 for the software. This may, however be too much for most users but I store a lot of my business documents in the PDF format and being able to generate them directly on my netBook is great.
Kind regards.
Simon Wolf
http://www.epoczone.com
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Date: 28 Oct 2002 22:34:08 +0100
From: "Giorgio"
Subject: Best place to buy psions (on EPOC DIGEST V1 # 098)
Answer to Itamar and Taylor Ben
Subject: best place to buy psions
Dear friends, I have one (English version) Psion Serie 3a 2MB plus various accessories. May I ...."advertise"... it here ?
Cheers
Giorgio Odazio
Rome, Italy
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Date: 28 Oct 2002 23:28:46 +0100
From: Alan Morris
Subject: Re: More things to do with a Psion
Kevin Thorne wrote:-
<< I'm very interested to discover what your EPOC computer can do that a Windoze computer cannot. >>
Run for more than 8 hours without crashing.
Run for over 7 hours on it's internal battery.
Ignore any e-mail virus.
Be programed with an easy built-in language.
Easy connection to a cell phone by Ir.
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Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.
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Date: 29 Oct 2002 00:06:26 +0100
From: "Owen H. Morgan"
Subject: Macro 5 for any other OS?
Howdy
I asked this a little while ago, but nobody replied, so maybe it got lost in my long post.
Does anyone know if there is anything similar to Macro5 available for any other palmtop OS, or for that matter desktop OS?
Owen
Thought for the day:
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!
- M. Python
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Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-53°20.87'N 6°14.83'W
Dublin City Moorings
http://home.no.net/naomij
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Date: 29 Oct 2002 05:07:51 +0100
From: "Jim Cooke"
Subject: Psion Marketing
Rolf Brunsting wrote:
Re.: Symbian 7
<<I know the Psion Forum discussions and remember them as rather simplistic. A number of people said that Psion should advertise on television. What they didn't realise, or simply forgot, is that a number of other things need to be in place *before* you can start to think about TV commercials. Like having your product on the shop shelves of at least three major national retail chains, for example. As that's where people start to look for your product after having seen the commercial. Which automatically triggers the far from simple question of how to get your product accepted by these retailers, etc, etc.
I therefore think it's not that Psion didn't know how to market its products. It's more a case of Psion having to work within a number of constraints that didn't allow the company to do some of the things that were proposed on CompuServe's Psion Forum.>>
Rolf,
Point well taken but I don't think that Psion's marketing failure was the lack of TV ads. From a purely personal view, I think a greater problem was the inability to make any penetration in the North American market. When the 3a came out, the PDA market was really three makers - HP, Psion, and Apple. The Newton never had a chance so the only real completion was HP. The PDA market was Psion's to seize over here. After an initial flurry, the Psion sank below the waves in terms of public perception and the Palm rose to fill the vacuum. After about 1998, it was near impossible to even find a Psion being carried on retailer's shelves. Simply making sure the machine was on offer and the public could "play" with it would have led to vastly better sales. I remember my frustration when people saw my 3c, wanted one, but would have to get it mail order from NWT since no B&M retailer had it. Americans, being notoriously impatient, want to go buy something right away. It seems to me that simply having some units in stock would have been a relatively low expense compared to the benefits.
Regards, Jim
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Date: 29 Oct 2002 07:33:44 +0100
From: "Huub Linthorst"
Subject: ExAb now has sequential copy/paste
Hi all,
A new update of ExAb (v. 7.13, release 271002) is available at my website. ExAb now has the possibility to cut/copy a sequence of selections and paste them back in the order in which they were copied. This function can optionally be set in Preferences. It uses the normal Ctrl+X, Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V keystrokes. The multiple selections are stored for pasting until a next use of the Copy function.
Macro users will recognize this functionality from Stefan Denk's excellent CoCoPaPa macro and I honestly admit that I borrowed the idea from him. The name CoCoPaPa indicates the way in which Stefan's macro and ExAb function. You can COpy selection 1, than COpy another selection 2 then PAste back 1 and PAste back 2.
ExAb's old multi clipboards accessible through Menu+X, Menu+C and Menu+V are still available as Sticky Clipboards. The Sticky Clipboards hierarchy has been improved in the new update.
Enjoy ExAb.
Huub
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Huub Linthorshttp://website.leidenuniv.nl/~linthorsthjm/exabetal/
ExAb, CodeSafe, S5mboles, SpellX and more
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Date: 29 Oct 2002 11:00:56 +0100
From: Lord Kimberley
Subject: Jotter - corrupt file
Any ways of recovering a Jotter file, whcih gives the popup box "Corrupt information - Continue". I have reverted to a good backup, but lost about 10 days worth of odd entries, which it would be good to recvoer/remember.
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Yours John.
Tel: +44 1763 289 732 e-mail: mailto:w0400
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Date: 29 Oct 2002 11:45:07 +0100
From: Steve Hodgson
Subject: Archiving Agenda
i wanted to ask how other users archive their Agenda files on their Psions. I'used one method for a long time now but don't know if it's necessarily the best way to do things. There were a number of postings on the Psion newsgroups recently suggesting that BIG Agenda files can sometimes just crash and burn.
Basically I don't want to be working with a huge Agenda file too frequently so I tend to keep the number of entries fairly small so that it's quick to open and search.
Once I've accumulated a sufficient number of crossed out entries these get archived to another file for long-term storage. My only worry about this is that it's getting bigger all the time and I worry about whether there is any sort of limit on just how long I should run with it. It is handy though having one file that is available for searching for obscure entries when you are not sure of the exact date.
The vital stats are that the archive file runs back to early 1994, lives inside a 188K zip file and is 636K expanded.
I don't generally use Windows so there is not really an option to synchronise to (say) Outlook and archive that way.
One option that does work well is to convert the Agenda to PDF either directly using PDFPrinter or going via postscript & distiller. This has the advantage that everything can still be in a single file, it's searchable, and it works on all platforms.
Are there better options than all this mucking about?
Regards,
Steve Hodgson
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Date: 29 Oct 2002 17:31:11 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: Battery life, WinCE,
Answer to: David Lir
Re. Battery life - My S7 is on from abt. 9.00 am until after 5.00 pm on my desk, and further on and off during the evening. That certainly makes over 8 to 9 hours a day <G>. In the morning I run down the battery, in the afternoon I recharge it from abt. 2.00 pm onwards to get the minium 3 hours, and in the evening back on battery again.
Re. WinCE - I am not that much interested in the historical development of the WinCE platform, but more to hear from users how it compares with EPOC and whether it is preferable over the palm platform or not in terms of stabillity and available programs (although hopefully still using my S7 for many moons to come). And yes, most wifes talk about "boys and their toys", but forget they have their own "toys" (cloth, curtains, upholstery ..... etc.) [no harm meant to the female readers of this digest].
Requests for all of us : Can we please try and quote only relevant parts of an answer and not whole answers ? Also, could we please try and keep it friendly in the digest ? It serves no function to proclaim each others opinions being silly, lunatic, etc. Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
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Date: 29 Oct 2002 20:00:10
From: Rolf Vonau
Subject: Re: Macro 5 for any other OS?
"Owen H. Morgan" wrote at Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:06:26 +0100 (> ):
> Does anyone know if there is anything similar to
> Macro5 available for any other palmtop OS, or for
> that matter desktop OS?
Hi Owen,
For Windows (sorry to all Psionies) there is the shareware Macro Express at the site www.macros.com/support.htm. Some time ago I tried it myself. It gives much more possibilities than Macro5 especially for capturing mouse clicks, movements and key presses.
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Best Regards
Rolf
Munich
http://home.arcor.de/rhvonau/index.htm
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