Could you please subscribe with an address, not leading to such return messages.
Rolf Vonau
The Epoc Digest Team
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 09:24:16 +0100
From: "Simon Wolf"
Subject: re. PdfPrinter, S7 to netBook and Network, netBook Upgrade, "Funny" netBook Screen
Steve Hodgson (PdfPrinter):
I fully agree with all of your points and this new application offers a great way to distribute files directly from your Psion whilst keeping the formatting almost exactly as it is in the native EPOC files (there are a couple of minor problems but nothing major and hopefully these will be fixed soon). Since nConvert seems to be 'finished' this provides a great alternative and is well worth the money if you need this functionality.
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Bostjan Jerko (Re. S7 to netbook and network): "I "upgraded" my S7 to Netbook (using ROM board) and everything works fine. Now I am thinking of buying Psions network card, but I don't know if it will work with that kind of hardware."
You might find the discussion thread at
http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2222 interesting and the FAQ page at
http://www.isbg00598.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/faqCF&PCCards.htm#LANcompat.
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Darryl Kempster (netbook upgrade): "Did anyone manage to get this upgrade performed? The guy I spoke to seemed confused as he suggested I contact POS and they aren't allowed to offer repairs to either the Series 7 or netBook, so I'm wondering if what he told me was actually the full story. Anyone have any more info?"
AFAIK the upgrade was never actually offered since the price of upgrading the machine would simply be prohibitive in relation to buying one of the new design netBooks. As for confusion at the repair centre, I've just sent my netBook back for some repairs (so they do handle then whilst I know that POS don't!) and rang to ask about whether I could remove the battery pack before returning it (mainly to reduce the package weight). The guy at the other end asked why removing the AA batteries would help. 'nuf said! OTOH, they repaired my 5mx (it's been an expensive month!) beautifully and, including postage time, it was back with me in four working days.
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boller ("funny" netBook screen): "There has been difficulty with calibration of the screen for some time ... In most cases, the effect is one to two cm off, always on the same side ... However, in some applications, Phoneman for instance, this "off" effect disappears and the hit is exactly where I put the sylus."
I believe that this is a screen-cable problem where the cable is coming loose from the motherboard. To temporarily solve this you can try pressing down on the logo above the keyboard two or three times (this needs to be quite hard but please don't hold me responsible for adverse results!). This is one of the reasons that I have just returned my netBook for repair at the exorbitant cost of £170. As to why you don't have this in Phoneman, I have no idea! 80)
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Kind regards.
Simon Wolf
Epoczone
http://www.epoczone.com
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 13:23:31 +0100
From: coolmagic
Subject: Nokia 6210 & MX5
Hi All,
I'm new to the list and hope this hasn't been published before. I have just got a Psion MX5 and I own a Nokia 6210e Mobile phone. I've set up my email account etc, and it works fine. However, I understand that the Nokia is HSDC compliant, and wondered if I have to install a particular driver to make use of this higher connection speed? Hope this isn't too vague. Any help or info would be very much appreciated.
Regards
Chris Edwards
Http://www.coolmagic.btinternet.co.uk
Coolmagic - Bringing A Touch Of Magic to any Occasion
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 16:35:55 +0100
From: Keith Giles
Subject: Screensaver/GuysGals/Emulator/Size
Chris Cooper quoted a plug for a CD which contained, in part:
> * Screensavers (Psion logo for Windows 3.1 and Windows 95+)
While I know I don't *need* a screensaver, I loved that revolving Psion logo on my Windows98. Does anyone know how to get it to work on WindowsXP?
Martin Yirrell wrote
> I thought Guys actually meant male and female these days. At least that's what > my kids tell me. <g>
In my younger days guys were guys. Today, in my bike club, "you
guys" refers to both genders.
Chris Cooper mentions me in a posting about the emulator. N.B. I am
*not* an expert. I wish I were (note the correct use of the
subjunctive drilled into oldtimers <g>). Still waiting for an
answer to how to get the Add/Remove function to work on my emulator.
Trygve Henrikson wrote:
> Size issue?
I keep trying to believe that "size doesn't matter". :-)
Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/
Thought For The Day: Age is not important unless you're a cheese.
All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 18:54:49 +0100
From: Alberto
Subject: Tranlation
Hello
This come from you said about open attachments in e-mails. It was said by Laooconte for that Trojans don't open the doors to the horse (the famous horse).
Timeo danaos et donan ferentes = I don't trust (or I fear) in Greeks although they carry presents.
I thought that this quote was known. (the original is in Greek, but I don't know it)
Like anothers:
Alea jacta est - Julio Caesar . (that yes. No?)
Qualis artifex pereo! - What great artist died with me - Neron
Eppur si muove - But the earth moves - Galileo Galilei
God don't roll the dice (I don't know exactly words)- Einstein
Never you need a computer with more than 100KB (or same, a number very low) - Bill Gates; it is true. he said it.
.......
many more
Yes, no all contries have the same famous quotes.
UK have that for "so much people owe so much to so little people", Churchill talking about R.A.F.
But now you could use it to amaze the firends ;-)
Greetings
Alberto / Spain
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 22:56:52 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Lunatic Fringe
Dear David,
<< Nothing in Arent's message could *rationally* be seen as coming from the "Lunatic Fringe" - though *your* message could be seen as such and probably *is* coming from just such a place >>
Seems that you didn't recognise that my critique had a rational basis. Let's therefore take one of the sections of Kits van Heijningen's message that triggered the critique.
[Quote]
When it comes that the choice of handheld also determines the choice of desktop OS , the coming migration of Palm to the Pocketpc hardware platform will make matters worse for the alternative-OS communities as they(palm) too will become dependent on Windows -only features and protocols
[Unquote]
Microsoft has defined a minimum hardware specification for Pocket PC 2002. Look at this specification and you'll find it's a mixture of technologies that's neither unique nor far in advance of the competition. It's a specification several companies in the handheld computer market have come to realise as being well suited as a basis for their products. That Palm is the latest on the list doesn't make Pocket PC any special. The hardware specs of the Newton Messagepads of old are quite similar to those of Pocket PC 2002. So, let's get rid of the idea that Palm is migrating to Pocket PC as Microsoft didn't create the bandwagon nor was it the first to jump on it.
Second aspect is the contention that Palm's so-called 'migration to Pocket PC' makes it more dependent on desktop Windows-only features and protocols. Well, as the hardware isn't unique to Pocket PC it begs the question what this dependence consists of. Wireless ethernet didn't come out of Microsoft's development kitchen. Bluetooth is an Ericsson proposal worked out by a special interest group of companies. Ditto for SanDisk and the CF card. The list of non-Microsoft technologies the company needs to support is quite a long one.
These technologies are the conduits for interaction between desktop Windows and a wide range of devices. Desktop Windows' support of (say) CF cards means it supports a card taken out of a Psion and plugged into the desktop's CF card reader. The only way Microsoft can make this Windows-only is by introducing a new CF file storage system that's only shared with Pocket PC devices while dropping support of the previous system. Thing is that this won't work because it not only breaks the link with older Pocket PC devices but also with digital cameras and what have you. What's more, Microsoft had to accept an agreement with the US Justice Department which includes the release of source code and other technical data. The company can no longer create a 'new CF format' and keep it secret from others. Nor can it prevent a third party developer creating the drivers that restore support for the 'old CF format'. The same applies to other technologies developers need to interact with Microsoft's Windows operating system and applications.
Mr. Kits van Heijningen's words are therefore the expression of ideas that are so removed from reality that I describe them as Lunatic Fringe stuff. A reference to the policies of a radical section of the British Labour Party of the early 90's that, when adopted, would have made the party forever unelectable. Mr. Kits van Heijningen's "Windows -only features and protocols" will have a highly similar effect. Whether you like the Lunatic Fringe label, or not.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 22:56:57 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Jotter
Dear David,
<< Psion quite correctly added Jotter for one OBVIOUS reason - consumer demand. >>
It's equally obvious, without the shouting, that Psion will have received a wide range of requests for additional hardware and software functionality after the launch of the Series 5. There will also have been a number of features that were in the original specification but didn't make it in the product for one reason or other. Leaving Psion's decision makers the far from enviable task of picking the winners.
<< Only a *very* foolish design manager would have left Jotter out - just because he (or she) had so little use for it or could use Data instead >>
The design manager is allowed to have his/her preferences. Just as the product manager, the marketing and sales manager and the finance manager are allowed to have their preferences. Whether one of these preferences will make it into the product depends on persuading the others that it's the right feature. The ones that tend not to clear all hurdles are the hobby horses.
It's by no means certain that the decision not to reinstate Jotter will have been foolish. Third-party developers saw the omission of Jotter as the opportunity to create their own. Some with more functionality and flexibility than Jotter has. Leaving a quick note taker to these developers would have made resources free to answer other enhancement requests. Think of turning Sheet from a 2D into a 3D spreadsheet application. As it's much less likely that a third-party developer will have taken on the job of creating a 3D alternative to Sheet.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
A former product manager
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 22:57:03 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Your Pocket PC Promotional (Was : Lunatic Fringe)
Arent,
<< My messages are based on what actually is happening in the market and on decisions made by mobile phone manufacturers , telecom operators as well as the IT industry as a whole >>
I doubt whether any of us can afford to:
a) Read all the magazines, press releases, trade journals, company financial reports, on-line publications and market studies.
b) Investigate what the products that are on the market do and how they perform.
c) Study the mechanical and electronic designs of these products,
and,
e) Dig deep into their operating systems and the services they offer.
We don't have the time nor the financial resources to do so. And then I'm not even talking about the various skills we'd need to do such a job. Each of us has to limit himself/herself to the spare time available and will therefore never really know what "actually is happening". We might be able to get a fairly good grasp, but that's all.
Which leaves the most important point - after having read and studied and having taken the time to mull over the information we have, what comes out is an *interpretation*.
<< ... not on the wishful thinking of some hard-core Psion users >>
The "wishful thinking" bit applies to you as well. What you think is going to happen may not happen at all - Pocket PC 2002 for Smartphones proves to be a very lacklustre market performer - Sendo goes bankrupt - Palm's Tungsten grabs back market share - Microsoft drops the H/PC format, etc, etc.
<< Add to this that MicroSoft holds the intellectual property rights onkey techologies used in the Symbian UI, API and filesystem layers as well as the SDK ... >>
What's the problem with a Microsoft development environment being the host of Symbian's SDK? The development environment is designed for being a host. It saves Symbian the time and effort to create it's own. What's more, it's an environment familiar to many a developer. Still, those who think there's something wrong with developing for Symbian OS using a number of Microsoft tools can go for Metroworks' CodeWarrior. The latest version of the "CodeWarrior Development Suite for Symbian OS, Professional Edition" became available in September and includes support for Symbian OS 7.
The above also removes the notion you may have that the use of Microsoft tools also means using Microsoft APIs. That's not the case, the Microsoft development environment is the host for working with, and developing for, Symbian APIs and OS services.
As for the so-called intellectual property rights Microsoft has on parts of the Symbian user interface, this is no longer a Symbian matter. UI development is now performed by the partners and licensees. Resulting in Series 60 and Series 80 (Nokia) and UIQ (SonyEricsson). Besides, I think you need to go back in time a bit and have a look at the outcome of legal proceeding concerning user interfaces in which Apple, Microsoft, Borland and Lotus were involved. I think you can simply forget that Microsoft can make much of a claim here.
My final remark on the above quote is that it's not strange for some parts of all that's Symbian OS to use Microsoft intellectual property. Microsoft's operating systems aren't 100% Microsoft's own either as it also uses technology and code licensed from other companies.
<< ... and it becomes clear that anyone who is bringing a smartphone or handheld device to market either opt to develop its own (what Nokia has done), use the Microsoft offerings for that (Siemens did that in their sx45 smartphone and will do it again in a customised version of HTC's XDA and Samsung is doing in its Communicators) alternatively use PalmOS or embedded Linux (what Kyocera and Sharp are doing) >>
Nokia didn't develop its own operating system as the 9210, 7650 and 3650 share the Symbian OS core. What Nokia has added is its expertise (and philosophy) in user interface design, making slight modifications to Symbian's Crystal reference design to form Series 80 of the 9210. The Pearl reference design was modified more extensively and forms Nokia's Series 60. SonyEricsson did the same, its UIQ user interface is based quite closely on Symbian's Quartz reference design. License Series 60 from Nokia, or UIQ from SonyEricsson, and you have the equivalent of the roof and upper story of a house - not the whole house, foundations and all.
You mention Siemens and Samsung in relation to Microsoft but they're examples of companies with a multi-OS strategy. Siemens is also Symbian partner and has licensed Series 60 from Nokia. This says that Siemens was either not impressed by Pocket PC for Smartphones or convinced that the Symbian/Series 60 combination has a much better chance of succeeding in the marketplace. An interview by Richard Bloor with Siemens' Dirk Hoffman (Head of Consumer Marketing) indicates that it's the latter.
Samsung goes one step further by having alliances with Microsoft (Pocket PC 2002 Phone Edition) Symbian and Nokia (Series 60) and PalmSource (PalmOS). The company currently uses PalmOS 3.x in its i300, i330 and i500 CDMA smartphones for the North American market. We're therefore not dealing with an 'either-or' situation in which a phone manufacturer needs to link its product strategy to a single OS.
<< Also there is now the shift in the mobile marketplace towards direct
alliances between carriers , actual device manufacturers and last , but
not least MicroSoft... >>
This may be new for somebody who comes to smartphones and communicators from the (mobile) computer business. Reality is that such alliances have been part and parcle of the mobile telecommunication business for donkey's years. With phone manufacturers building and/or modifying mobile phones to network operator specifications. Some of these phones are instantly recognisable as coming from manufacturer 'x' (Orange nk702 = Nokia 6130), others are a "Where do you come from?" puzzle. Phone manufacturers also pick certain network operators to be the launching customer for their products.
Network services is another area in which alliances between network operators, infrastructure suppliers and handset manufacturers are in place. I'm subscribed to the press services of a number of telecoms manufacturers and hardly a week goes by without an alliance, cooperation or joint development being announced.
The idea that alliances will "completely shake up the marketplace" is therefore based on unfamiliarity with the mobile telecommunications industry. I'm afraid your Netscape example doesn't fit either as Microsoft poured large sums of money into the development of Internet Explorer while giving the product away for free. Microsoft effectively bought the web browser market. Something it won't be able to do for mobile telecommunications as the sums of money this would take are simply too large, even for Microsoft, while the telecommunication market is regulated much more strictly.
<< HTC , Samsung , and Sendo will be the big players in the coming years , Ericsson will probably disappear completely from this market and Nokia will become a niche player, Motorola's position will remain unclear, rumor has it they willuse MicroSoft's PocketPC Smartphone Edition >>
I doubt whether it will happen as you describe it for a number of reasons.
HTC is an OEM manufacturer, its devices carry other company's brand names and model numbers. Much will depend on what networks like O2 (XDA) and Orange (PVS) will do with them. When I look at O2's advertising for the XDA, for example, I get the impression that it's the XDA that's used to put the O2 brand on the map than the other way around. It wouldn't surprise me when O2 will stop with the XDA when there are sufficient smartphones and communicators by the mobile phone companies on the market.
Sendo is a small 6-model handset manufacturer. It's competing with a Nokia that has launched *30* new mobile phones this year already. The repeatedly postponed Sendo Z100 looks to be the make or break model for the company. Sendo has mentioned that the Z100 will become available this month but that's what we also heard last year. Simple fact is that the Z100 is 18 months late and has a specification that's starting to become outdated. When the Z100 doesn't become available this month, or sells below target, it could very well be the end of Sendo.
Samsung is well established and has a good chance of succeeding with smartphones. Question is whether its triple-OS policy is a wise one as its smartphone development capacity could be too thinly spread. It also has the disadvantage of giving mixed signals to the consumer.
Ericsson has it's difficulties but is, on the other hand, one the most well established companies in the telecommunications industry. There's hardly a segment in which Ericsson doesn't have a finger in the pie. Ericsson teamed up with Sony, a company that lost face when it had to establish SonyEricsson. Sony doesn't want to lose face twice by the joint-venture failing - there's a lot of prestige at stake.
As for Nokia, it succeeded to increase its market share *and* increase its profit margins during the most difficult period in the history of the mobile phone industry. I don't know a handset manufacturer able to match Nokia's product portfolio. And is Vertu brand is for Nokia what Lexus is for Toyota. What's more, Nokia is venturing into areas not covered by any competitor - interactive mobile gaming with the Nokia N-Gage mobile game deck. When there's a company vying for the "Destined to become a niche player" title it's certainly not Nokia.
The one that might get the title is Motorola. The company has been in the doldrums ever since the Nokia 51xx/61xx onslaught of a few years ago. It has tried to get back by going up-market with the umpteenth StarTac variant but hasn't succeeded. Samsung is currently selling more imitations than Motorola is selling V-models. What's more, even loyal Motorola fans are no longer sure what the company stands for. As for the "PocketPC Smartphone Edition" rumour, more than a simple rumour is the fact that Motorola is a Symbian partner, has licensed SonyEricsson's UIQ and is working on a Symbian/UIQ phone for Hutchison. The rumour that's attached to this is that the phone in question is an A820 variant. Indicating that Motorola has dropped the idea of bringing the A820 to market with a home-brew OS first and Symbian OS later.
<< The traditional names will however remain strong when it comes to
infrastructure ( base stations and networks ) here SymbianOS could still
play an important role because there is no need for a GUI or filesystem
here and the applications are highly customised developments in this
environment >>
Nice try but doesn't fly. Neither Symbian OS nor Pocket PC nor PalmOS are suitable as a basis for Base Station Transceivers, Base Station Controllers and other network gear. It's equivalent to putting a four cylinder, 16-valve 1.2 litre petrol engine in the engine bay of a 40-ton truck and expecting it to do the job.
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Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 22:57:13 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Symbian 7
Arent,
<< What did them finally in was their decision in 1998 to pull the licence from GeoFox ... >>
Geofox was founded in August '96 and went into receivership in October/November '98. As the receivers didn't succeed in finding a buyer (to take over Geofox as a going concern) it went into liquidation on November 27th, '98.
The Geofox directors who attended the creditors meeting of November 27th attributed the failure of the company to:
1) Initial sales falling substantially short of target because of the failure of the initial marketing strategy,
2) Lack of funding for the establishment of new sales and marketing channels for the company's products,
and,
3) The inability to attract further investment into the company to enable it to execute its business plans.
As for 1) above, it was mentioned during the meeting that the target was 10,000 units but that Geofox had actually sold just over 1,000.
The above information is from a report by John Arnold of Business Credit Management UK who attended the meeting on behalf of concerned Geofox One owners, including himself. I therefore think you'd better withdraw the above quoted statement.
<< .. and to use Epoc 32 only for deeply-embedded applicattions ( the latter one grudgingly reversed after massive protests from their shareholders , it is in that light that they released the s3mx wich had to become their flagship model after discontinuation of Epoc32 for non- embedded systems ) >>
The Series 3mx was launched because the processor of the previous Series 3 models was discontinued and replaced by a faster version that had the 'MX' designation. Hence the 3mx name.
As for "deeply-embedded applicattions", I've developed embedded applications (for microcontrollers) myself and have been involved in embedded software development for industrial instruments and data communication equipment. I can therefore say this "deeply-embedded applicattions" thing either reflects a serious lack of knowledge of embedded software or is the smokescreen for a political agenda. The only "deeply-embedded applicattions" in this respect are the ones inside old and discarded HP, Psion, Palm, Compaq, Sharp and other handheld computers that have ended up in landfill sites.
<< Also , when Psion employees posted in newsgroups or fora then it was always with the disclaimer that it was in a personal quality (Remember Alasdair Manson) >>
There is much to be said for and and against moderated and non-moderate on-line fora, the presence of official company spokespersons on these fora and about private forum members who are funded and otherwise supported by companies. However, when an on-line forum is for users by users, the company in question will need to respect this. And when a company thinks that it's not appropriate to participated on an on-line forum than that's a decision for the company in question.
You're free to present the reason(s) why you think it's better for a company like Psion to participate and be part of an on-line forum. What you're not free to do is to criticise the individual Psion and Symbian employees who participated on the Psion newsgroups in a personal capacity. They did not have the freedom to speak on behalf of Psion or Symbian - doing so could have had negative consequences for their careers. They did what's proper and decent in this situation, adding "A Psion/Symbian employee in a personal capacity" to their newsgroup signature. I therefore think you'd better withdraw the above quoted statement.
The reason why I insist that you withdraw the statement is because you're certainly not free to mention (one of these) employees by name. Specially when they're not a subscriber to the EPOC Digest and are thus unaware of what's been said about them. Picking out Alasdair Manson, who was able to shoot a large number of holes in your newsgroup argumentations, has the stench of spiteful, backstabbing revenge.
WITHDRAW!!
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Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 23:03:50 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: PMN - Sendo chooses Symbian, dumps Microsoft
Dear All,
As received from PMN - Mobile Industry Intelligence.
[Quote]
07 November 2002 -- PMN -- British handset manufacturer Sendo, once feted by Microsoft as a leading member of of its Smartphones development programme, has terminated its Z100 product and chosen instead to license the Symbian OS and Nokia's Series 60 interface.
[Unquote]
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 23:08:50 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Nokia - Sendo chooses Nokia's Series 60 platform for its smart phones
Dear All,
As received from Nokia's Press Office.
[Quote]
NOKIA PRESS RELEASE
November 7, 2002
Sendo chooses Nokia's Series 60 platform for its smart phones
Sendo, a British mobile phone manufacturer, today announced that the company has decided to license Series 60 Platform from Nokia for its smart phone category. The Series 60 is a software platform for feature- and application rich smart phones that Nokia licenses to mobile handset manufacturers. The platform is optimised to run on top of the Symbian OS. Sendo joins as the newest member to the Series 60 licensing community with Matsushita, Samsung, Siemens and Nokia.
"Earlier this fall we reviewed our smart phone strategy. While our mission of providing customers with feature-rich and ubiquitous devices remains unaltered, seeing that the Series 60 fully embraces both our mission and the new strategy we decided to approach Nokia," said Hugh Brogan, Chief Executive Officer of Sendo Holdings Plc. "The platform utilises open standards and technologies, such as MMS and Java(TM), jointly developed by the industry. The platform is robust, yet uniquely flexible, bringing great benefits to licensees, operators, developers and consumers."
"We welcome Sendo, a pioneer in smart phone development, to join our Series 60 community. We see that a combination of Sendo's technical expertise and growing market presence will bring significant contribution to the mobile market with Series 60 devices. Interoperable solutions that are built on open and common industry standards are proving to be the winning formula in meeting demands of business users and consumers alike," said Niklas Savander, Vice President and General Manager, Nokia Mobile Software.
Nokia licenses Series 60 Platform as a source code. The model enables licensees to contribute to the development of the platform while fully executing their individual business strategy, brand and customer requirements in fast developing and highly competitive mobile communications market. Licensees will be able to include the Series 60 into their own smart phone designs, thus speeding up the rollout of new phone models at lower costs.
The Series 60 is a comprehensive software platform for smart phones, created for mobile phone users that demand easy-to-use, one-hand operated handsets with high-quality colour screens, rich communications and enhanced applications. The Series 60 platform consists of the key telephony and personal information management applications, the browser and messaging clients, as well as a complete and modifiable user interface, all designed to run on top of the Symbian OS, an operating system for advanced, data enabled mobile phones.
About Sendo
Sendo, headquartered in the United Kingdom, started shipping its first terminals to operator customers in Europe and Asia in May 2001. The company is now shipping five products in over twenty countries in Europe and Asia, with the USA soon to follow. Sendo offers high-performance, competitively priced, reliable products and services to the cellular market. Sendo has been established with the needs of the wireless carriers and consumers in mind. The company offers a complete custom program, from exclusively branded phones, matched fulfillment programs and software with dedicated services. Details of the company are available at www.sendo.com.
About Nokia
Nokia (NYSE:NOK) is the world leader in mobile communications. Backed by its experience, innovation, user-friendliness and reliable solutions, the company has become the leading supplier of mobile phones and a leading supplier of mobile, fixed broadband and IP networks. By adding mobility to the Internet Nokia creates new opportunities for companies and further enriches the daily lives of people. Nokia is a broadly held company with listings on six major exchanges.
For further information, please contact:
Nokia Mobile Software
Communications
Tel: +358 7180 08000
E-mail: nokia.mobile.phones
www.nokia.com
Nokia
Corporate Communications (Americas)
Tel. +1 972 894 4875
Sendo
Marijke van Hooren
Tel. +44 121 251 5060
Mobile +44 7968 820 701
E-mail: mvanhooren
www.sendo.com
[Unquote]
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 23:40:54 +0100
From: Alan Morris
Subject: Re: Series 7 move from Revo / Mako?
"John Morris" wrote:-
<< Could others please explain how they cope with the "size" issue? I too would like a colour version with larger keys and a bigger display, but then it wouldn't fit in my pocket anymore. >>
No problem use both. As a 3a/5/3mx/5mx user, I bought a 7 after the exodus reduced prices and then a Revo +.
I carry about (and typed this on) a Revo+. Later I will use Ir to send it to the 7, while at home or if I have the 7 available or to the 5mx when away without the 7. Received Digests are transferred from the 7 or 5mx to the Revo+.
I have the best of all options - a 7 on my desk and a Revo+ in my pocket. As an extra benefit, using the Revo+ reduces the wear & tear on the screen cable on my 5mx, extending it's useful life until someone (Psion ?!!) produces something better.
Now a 16 colour 5mx would be ideal.
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Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.
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Date: 7 Nov 2002 23:41:08 +0100
From: Alan Morris
Subject: Re: Series 7 Memory Problem
"Andrew Gardner" wrote:-
<< I have a Series 7 and tried to open a large MBM file recently using MBMview. I thought it was a jpeg file. Anyhow it struggled for ever to open it until I killed the app (Ctrl+Shft+Fn+K), then I got an out of memory error message. To resolve it I did a soft reset, no joy. I did a hard reset and tried to restore an earlier copy but now find that as Psiwin downloads the files the memory bar keeps moving along the screen until it is all used up and then breaks the link. Even if I skip restore and just try a rebuild I get the same problem. Does anyone have any idea on how to resolve this? >>
From my experience with MBMview V-4.0, you don't have a 'Series 7 Memory Problem' but a 'MBMview Memory Problem'.
I installed it on my 5mx and attempted to load a small ~150Kb B&W .GIF file. MBMview exited without an error message. I repeated this with other similar files with the same result. Then came the out of memory system error.
I was advised where to look for the temporary files left behind by MBMview (since forgotten). I deleted the files and removed MBMview - end of problem.
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Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.
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Date: 8 Nov 2002 00:06:26 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: network card, quoting, protective foil, Compuserve posts,
Answer to: Bostjan Jerko
Re. network card - If you use a netBook with a network card and connect to your server, what programs can you run ? Can you read your email stored on the server ? Can you read word processor files ? etc.
Answer to: Chris Cooper
Re. quoting - Well, you write to quote <smile> "it's so easy to give just short, relevant quotes". I suppose that is very personal and while you find it easy, I find it bothersome. I never asked anyone to answer in one way or another but for not quoting full messages in order to keep the size of the digest reasonable for those downloading it via GSM. I sent my answers in this form for many many years to the ups5 digest and now this digest, and never encountered problems. With all due respect and friendliness, I suggest you continue to quote and I continue my way, and others continue their way. In the end, your reaction to someone else's suggestion was "Aaargh! The horror of it!", but he would prefer it ...
Answer to: vlad arghir
Re. protective foil - "Normal use" means the way it was supposed to be used, so not trying to use a ballpen to touch the screen or bouncing it down the stairs while being open.
Answer to: MartinYirrell
Re. Compuserve posts - You can use Compuserve with your Psion if you have a "classic" account. Two colleauges and myself use it whenever traveling in Europe as they have almost everywhere local access numbers.
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
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Date: 8 Nov 2002 01:23:39 +0100
From: "David Steer"
Subject: Re: Series 7 Memory Problem
Andy,
Large files opened on the Series 7 with MBM view can require upto 7mb of space. What MBMview does is create a tempory file in the C:\System\Temp directory. If you have 'killed' the application, then this file will still be there. What you will need to do is go the the c:\System\Temp folder and delete the file. The soft re-set will not clear this file. If you then backed up your Psion and are then using that to restore the C: drive, then that large file will also be being restored.
Hope you resolve your problem.
David
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Date: 8 Nov 2002 08:44:49 +0100
From: Steve Hodgson
Subject: Playing with toys
I was wondering whether there is _anywhere_ that potential Psion purchasers can play with machines before they buy. In the old days before Psion pulled out of the consumer market it was possible to go to a shop and play for a while before deciding whether to part with hard-earned cash.
At the moment it would seem that someone wanted to buy a more obscure PDA (which sadly must now include Psion) such as Series 7, Jornada 728, Zaurus etc will just have to trust to reviews and part with cash at risk. The only machines that can easily be tried up-front are the more common palm and PocketPC machines. I would have thought something like this continue to keep the more obscure (but possibly more capable machines) on the periphery.
I would imagine that (in the UK at least) it would only be possible to see real hardware in London. Is Tottenham Court Road still a techie Mecca? What's the situation overseas?
Regards,
Steve Hodgson
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Date: 8 Nov 2002 12:56:59 +0100
From: "Jason Garbutt, Electricity Direct"
Subject: Re: Agenda Files
Hi,
There has been some discussion on Agenda archiving -
I use 2 agenda files:
Agenda - which contains the current year
Past - which contains everything else
My Past file started life on a S3 in 1991, it is now about 0.5MB in size and contains a detailed history of my life for the last 10 years or so ! Great for reminiscing !
I don't have any problems with it, and at the end of each year I archive the previous year to a new agenda file, then merge it into Past. The 2 stage process helps to avoid cock-ups!
Hope this helps someone.
Jason Garbutt
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Date: 8 Nov 2002 14:11:13 +0100
From: "Daniel Meyer"
Subject: Netbook alternative
Jonathan wrote:
"............In the relatively near future, I'll need to think about what to replace it with: another NetBook (are they still making them, and is it worth the expense?). A palm/handspring with an extended keyboard? A pocket PC? A baby laptop with full Windows?"
I replaced my Netbook with a Sony PCG-SRX41P - catchy name! a small laptop running Windows XP Pro. I have had it about 9 months now and it has yet to crash! Really!
It meets my requirements, battery life is a good 4 hours and it has Bluetooth and Wireless LAN. I connect to my T39 using Bluetooth. I convert documents from my Psion files using Psiwin as and when I need them. the machine is little bigger than the Netbook but probably not as robust. I can use CF in the PC card slot and has a built in modem.
Daniel Meyer
Twickenham UK
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Date: 8 Nov 2002 15:37:56 +0100
From: Douglas Brown
Subject: SPACEHOG
Help. This is urgent. A RESTORE to my P5mx has just failed by filling both my C & D disks ... I guess with old files I deleted a while back. Therefore the restore is incomplete.
Just tried running Steve Litchfield's Spacehog to identify large disk space wasters, but it must be an old version 'cos it only shows me drive C files. So perhaps there's a more up-to-date version?
I went to the 3LIB web site for an update, but I cannot find it there. All other web search results lead ultimately back to PSIONKING which no longer seems to have Psion utils (unless I missed something).
My backup is on my work PC, so I'd like to get this sorted before I go home (6-6:30pm).
Please can anyone help me? Please email me directly, below.
Also - there must be some way to avoid this issue (disks filling with deleted stuff while restoring). On my PC, I have Arc.001 to Arc.006, but have never bothered to read up on what they are used for. Please can anyone explain? (My P5 documentation is at home)
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Regards,
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Product Centre, +44 (0)1483 206448
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Date: 8 Nov 2002 17:51:08 +0100
From: Douglas Brown
Subject: RE: SPACEHOG
OK - huge embarrassment - Just remembered that we only get digests, so they'll be no saving last minute cavalry. I guess I can struggle on for few days.
It occurs to me to ask if anyone "out there" knows of a duplicate file finder utility. I have already spotted a number of files that had been moved from one folder to another, and the old copies had been restored. D'Uh.
I have dealt with the ones I have found, but there's probably/certainly yet more. Such a utility would be a real boon.
TVMIA -- Douglas Br
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Date: 8 Nov 2002 20:55:05 +0100
From: Kevin Thorne
Subject: 9210 battery life, successor to the present model
As manufacturers have a habit of over exaggerating the battery life of almost any battery operated device I thought I'd give my own figures of real life operation on my 9210 and not a figure plucked from a test bench then add on 50% for luck! I can certainly vouch that in real life conditions it definitely lasts quite some time and Nokia have quashed the fallacy that a beautifully bright colour TFT screen must also mean a very short run time. This is not the case with the 9210. I've learnt from experience that if I go away for a long weekend it's just not necessary to bring along the mains charger. My average use is about 2 hours a day using its PDA functions (screen on), about 40 to 50 minutes of calls in speakerphone mode per day (again with screen on but dimmed during call progress) and it is left switched on in phone standby mode (PDA functions off) for around 16 hours per day. With this sort of use I get at least 3 full days out of one charge, sometimes closer to 4 days. Take a spare battery with you and you could realistically operate for a week without going near a mains socket. My only concern is the battery forms part of the base casing which I suspect would mean a spare may be very expensive to purchase.
As I've mentioned before, this Symbian PDA/phone is growing on me. I know that many Psion users prefer the two box solution and I'd guess this is the way I would still be working if it wasn't for the fact I was getting increasingly dissatisfied with the rather gloomy 5mx screen. Some users find it acceptable but I don't. I would love to have seen Psion produce a colour 5mx with Bluetooth but alas, this no longer is realistic. The 9210 isn't perfect but at least will benefit from future development from Nokia's giant R&D budget and indeed, it looks as though its expected upgraded successor, the 9310, is just about to get its official announcement of release date next Monday. I've heard that it will be shedding some pounds (or rather grams!) which I think will make it appeal to a lot more potential buyers. The current model has rather unfairly been described as "the brick" but then it's far more than just a phone. However, most of my clients who see it think it just looks ugly and too big when closed....and I agree with them. It's too square, it looks like a late eighties "brick phone". I very much suspect the new one will be much more rounded, as well as being lighter. I do hope Nokia will give the wonderful EPOC ER6 operating system enough RAM to multitask properly this time - if I see another "out of memory" message I think I'll scream!
Regards
Kevin Thorne
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