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Epoc Digest Fri, 27 Dec 2002 Volume 01 : Number 133

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In today's Epoc Digest 18 messages:

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- RE: HAVE A GOOD ONE

- Re: Tomtom cityplanner

- RE: scanning with digital camera

- Re: Scanning using a digital camera

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 132 : Re : successor of the 9210Communicator

- EPOC Emulator; Newsgroups;

- 5mx battery, Backups,

- successor of the 9210 Communicator

- Re: Psion Newsgroups

- RE: Father Xmas in Solun

- Re: Father Christmas-Proof at last

- SIS file extraction - Unicode?

- Re : The Big Guy

- Successor of Communicator 92** series

- Re: ethical issues and Digihandler

- Installing software on Revo

- Re: Radio software

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 02:17:47 +0000

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: RE: HAVE A GOOD ONE

Peter Wrote: <<<Or even just "Hi - I'm out there, >>>

Taking you up on the invitation peter. Just to say I am out here and appreciate the support and community of Psion. Happy New year and psioning, Maybe Psanta will bring some new goodies and stimulate the psion community more, there are rumours of new netbook - now that would be good new year though I admit to being very happy with my current netbook and revo solution.

Kind regards

Mark

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 02:18:07 +0000

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: Re: Tomtom cityplanner

<<<I've just checked the CD (which is why a long delay in replying) and there are 3 .SIS files on the CD - mono, colour & GPS. So the apps can be copied to a Psion and held there (on say a 1Gb HD) for later installation. But this does not solve the maps problem.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.>>>

I just brought citymaps from Clove and have returned it as the one they sent was not 2003 as I had expected - they will be getting it in early Jan they say, though I note widget already have it - I am concerned to hear what you day as I do not own or have easy access to a PC, in effect are you saying I would be better off with the older version which WILL allow me to store all the maps etc on a microdrive or large CF?

Kind regards

Mark

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 02:18:08 +0000

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: RE: scanning with digital camera

Thanks Paul, what a cunning idea.

<<<Place a mirror in the middle of the document you're going to copy - line up the camera and move it (sideways or up and down) till you can see an image of the lens exactly in the middle of the viewfinder/ monitor.>>>

Kind regards

Mark

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 02:18:10 +0000

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: Re: Scanning using a digital camera

Owen thanks for those suggestions, I never would have thought of this use for my digital camera which I hardly use, these ideas make it a much more useful tool, more like a dictaphone of pictures. Anyone else got any good uses for a digital camera, other than pictures of the dog etc.

<<<I routinely use my 2.2 megapixel Nikon to take snaps of information boards at tourist attractions so that I will not forget the details of the place.>>>

<<<Perhaps someone with good knowledge of photography could kindly advise me on the best lighting, settings etc>>> for use on a netbook - On topic :-)

<<<Thought for the day:

A fool and his honey are soon parted.>>> thought for tommorow: A honey with a fool means the fool has something extra to offer :-)

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 08:17:18 +0000

From: "Arent Kits van Heijningen[106016.3614]"

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 132 : Re : successor of the 9210Communicator

On 24 Dec 2002 17:23:39 +0000

Thomas F.VAN DER ZIJDEN <tfvanderzijdenxATfreesurf DOT fr> wrote

>>However, the 9210i WILL be succeeded by another device (forgot the codename... bother...) that will contain GPRS and bluetooth. This information comes from Robert Harmsen at www.symbian.info, the President of the Benelux Symbian Users Association.<<

Yes , I know the rumors , but it appears this will go the same way as the

ill-fated ODIN project

I have also read ( on the Symbian.info Net site ) and heard ( in the

Aktuellt current affairs magazine on Radio Vega ) about a successorto the

92** series -even a typenumber was quoted !- but after that Nokia

introduced the 68** series as being the successor and nothing was heard

about a "real" successor for the Communicator

So unless a production model based on the prototypes shown to insiders

appears on the store shelves , the 68** is the next business phone from

Nokia with a full keyboard

>>Ahum... one of those "Symbian is dying" days again, Arent? <BG><<

No , it is not "Symbian is dying" but Symbian becoming totally invisible

for both the application developer and the end user as it is completely

buried underneath .Net and Java

The best we can currently hope for is GPRS and Bluetooth on the 9210/9290

through (third-party) add-on modules in much the same way as GPS now

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 09:22:19 +0000

From: Mike McConnell

Subject: EPOC Emulator; Newsgroups;

To: Andrew Longdon

<<Is there (still) an Epoc simulator for the PC available (preferably as a free download)?>>

Yes, in the "netPad" section of the developers area on the Psion Teklogix website (if you can find it!) If you cannot manage to get it from there, send me a private email as I have a copy.

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To: Aleck Cartwright

<<Also if anyone knows of any good PSION related newsgroups>>

The most active ones are:

comp.sys.psion.apps

comp.sys.psion.comm

comp.sys.psion.misc

comp.sys.psion (less active than the first three)

Also have a look at the Psion Place message boards which are now possibly one of the most active discussion areas on the 'net, though as one of the moderators I may be slightly biased :-)

http://www.pdastreet.com/forums//forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=8

Regards,

Mike [Dundee, Scotland] __________________________________________

Mobile Phone & SMS: +44 (0)7870 236984

Mobile Fax: +44 (0)7977 156138

Web: http://www.mikemcc.net

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 12:30:41 +0000

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: 5mx battery, Backups,

Answer to : Aleck Cartwright

Re. 5mx battery - I think you are mistaken, neither the 5 nor the 5MX has got the capabillity to recharge batteries.

Answer to: Andy

Re. Backups - How often we all mention this, we still don't back-up often enough <G>. I very regularly back up my S7 twice a week to the PC at work. And the banking program _abp automatically backs up all the data to my D disk each time I use and close it.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 12:30:44 +0000

From: Epoc Digest

Subject: successor of the 9210 Communicator

REPEAT OF MESSAGE THAT WAS TRUNCATED IN THE LAST DIGEST

Subject: Réf: successor of the 9210 Communicator

Author: Thomas F.VAN DER ZIJDEN

Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:23:39 +0000

Arent wrote::

<<There were rumors last November about a new Communicator product from

Nokia that should offer GPRS and Bluetooth on top of the already existing

functionality

Well is was just that : Rumours , the sad reality is that the successor

will be the 6800 series and that the functionality will in the future

reside on the network rather than in the device ( so the

operators/software vendors can charge monthly/per use charges )

The 9210/9290 will be the last Symbian device with a full keyboard , the

upcoming 3650 and Ericsson's P800 are the last devices capable of running

native Symbian applications , from there it will be J2ME and .Net that

will be the default interfaces>>

Ahum... one of those "Symbian is dying" days again, Arent? <BG>

The Series 60 devices such as the 7650 have indeed been widely spread and the original 7650 has its succesful follower-up. However, the 9210i WILL be succeeded by another device (forgot the codename... bother...) that will contain GPRS and bluetooth. This information comes from Robert Harmsen at www.symbian.info, the President of the Benelux Symbian Users Association. If I got his message on the web site right, he has already seen the prototypes. There IS still a demand for a powerful business machine with a phone built-in and Nokia knows it. The .NET strategy is not appreciated by business men because that would mean that their own precious data would be on Micro$oft's servers. Not a very good idea of course.

I would like to have Robert's opinion and information on this, therefore I sent the message CC. Operator, can you prevent the EPOC Digest software from blocking Robert's possible answer (he might not be subscribed)?

Yours truly,

Thomas van der Zijden

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 12:39:24 +0000

From: "Steve Hodgson"

Subject: Re: Psion Newsgroups

> Also if anyone knows of any good PSION related newsgroups that

> are running, please recommend them to me, primarily regarding

> software, reviews, tips, series 5mx and Revo.

Aleck,

There are a number of newsgroups under comp.sys.psion.* and they are

generally pretty friendly and helpful although not as active as they

used to be. The main activity is in comp.sys.psion.apps and

comp.sys.psion.misc with other more specialised groups for comms and

programming.

With regard to help and tips, my own feeling is that many of the old

lags have moved on and perhaps forums such as the digest are now more

active in this area.

cheers,

Steve Hodgson

Battling with FreeBSD at Christmas and getting nowhere

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 12:43:27 +0000

From: "Steve Hodgson"

Subject: Re: Psion Newsgroups

> Also if anyone knows of any good PSION related newsgroups that

> are running, please recommend them to me, primarily regarding

> software, reviews, tips, series 5mx and Revo.

Aleck,

There are a number of newsgroups under comp.sys.psion.* and they are

generally pretty friendly and helpful although not as active as they

used to be. The main activity is in comp.sys.psion.apps and

comp.sys.psion.misc with other more specialised groups for comms and

programming.

With regard to help and tips, my own feeling is that many of the old

lags have moved on and perhaps forums such as the digest are now more

active in this area.

cheers,

Steve Hodgson

Battling with FreeBSD at Christmas and getting nowhere

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 16:19:34 +0000

From: "Chris Cooper"

Subject: RE: Father Xmas in Solun

He's still there at 16:15 UT (= GMT) on Dec 26 in my Solun - this is the Star Chart view due south for London, but since he appears in the extreme bottom right-hand corner, I'm sure he won't be specific to any particular lat/long or alt/az view.

Presumably he's on his way home ...

Happy New Year, everyone.

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Date: 24 Dec 2002 09:29:59 +0000

From: Will Green

Subject: The Big Guy

To Andrew or Alan,

"Which version of Solun are you using, Will? I don't see Father Xmas anywhere on my 5mx - could you please tell me the time and Alt/Az settings he appeared at...?"

Hiya Alan or Andrew, I'm running version 5.2 on a netbook.

Regarding the Alt/Az settings he seems to appear in any of the Star Chart different viewing options, but you'd better be quick as his work is finished tonight!

Seasons greetings,

Will.

PS Are you camping at this time of year?

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 17:33:00 +0000

From: ALYG

(Andrew Longdon)

Subject: Re: Father Christmas-Proof at last

> A nice Easter Egg, just had a look using 5.2. Black on 5mx and red on > my 7.

I thought Will was just kidding; I never thought of cranking up the Psion and actually launching Solun! Sure enough, there's Santa just disappearing off "exit, stage right."

,\ndy

(with egg on his face!)

:-)

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 18:16:19 +0000

From: Tom Robertson

Subject: SIS file extraction - Unicode?

Dear all,

Have taken the plunge and am now a proud psion 7 owner. Having a few teething problems though! I don't appear to be able to use some SIS files (e.g. zip files in MBMView.zip). If I use the PC to install them, there is a problem with the version of the extraction prog. referred to as 'Unicode', if I do it on the psion 7, I get the information message 'Access denied'. I had a look on the psion.com site for an update but had no luck. Am I doing something wrong or is there an update out there somewhere? What are the relevant files on the P7 to change? Any help appreciated.

kind regards,

Tom

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 18:43:11 +0000

From: J.

Subject: Re : The Big Guy

Subject: The ._,.-*'`\._,.-*'`**Big * Guy**`'*-.,_./`'*-.,_. To Andrew, Alan, Will

"......but you'd better be quick as his work is finished tonight!" RE

HE is still (26/12) there (v5.2) surfing back(?) in "Time" (toward the psion clock)

._,.-*'`\._,.-*'`*HapPy*neW*YeAr*`'*-.,_./`'*-.,_.

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 19:02:25 +0000

From: Kevin Thorne

Subject: Successor of Communicator 92** series

Reply to Arent Kits van Heijningen:

Re : Successor of Communicator 92** series

<There were rumors last November about a new Communicator product from

Nokia that should offer GPRS and Bluetooth on top of the already existing functionality. Well is was just that : Rumours , the sad reality is that the successor will be the 6800 series and that the functionality will in the future reside on the network rather than in the device ( so the operators/software vendors can charge monthly/per use charges ) >

Oh well, at least we know what's happening now. I was getting to like my 9210 and my frustrations of its hardware limitations was eased by the thought that we could see a new and improved version some time next year. Once my 12 month contract expires on it next June I'll probably go back to my old 8210 and couple it with my ever faithful S7 and go back to the two box solution once again. There is still a lot to be said for the power of the S7 and the extreme portability of the 8210 and the choice one has on whether to take one or two boxes into the shower!

Regards

Kevin Thorne

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 22:35:44 +0000

From: Rolf Vonau

Subject: Re: ethical issues and Digihandler

Reference is made to the mail in the EPOC DIGEST V1 # 132 :

Owen H. Morgan wrote at 24.12 2002 (> ):

> I have a friend

> who can and will if I ask him, but I don't ask

> him.

May this person has cracked the code for DigHandler and sells it, too?

Best Regards

Rolf

Munich

http://home.arcor.de/rhvonau/index.htm

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Date: 27 Dec 2002 04:39:22 +0000

From: Melvin Woody

Subject: Installing software on Revo

I've been running into a blank wall trying to install software I've downloaded for my Revo+. I've attempted to instal Macro5 and Pocketbank and apparently gotten them onto the Revo. (At least they show up on the "Extra's" bar. But, when I try to run them, I get a message saying "SYSRAM1.OPX. OPX does not exist" - even though SYSRAM1 appears in the OPX folder under SYSTEM in my Revo. I suspect that the SYSRAM1 file simply needs to be moved somewhere appropriate. Bt where? Can someone tell me what I'me doing wrong?

jmwoo

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Date: 26 Dec 2002 17:33:00 +0000

From: ALYG

(Andrew Longdon)

Subject: Re: Radio software

This message is mainly for Alan R Morris, G4ENS but I thought others may be able to help, or may be interested in his answers...

Alan, I note you're a radio ham - would you know if there is any software around for the Psion similar to Hamcomm, or such? I'm interested in any decoding, put more particularly ACARS. I wonder how difficult it would be to write a program in OPL to decode such signals. I have a "Hamcomm" type decoder which should be able to be connected to the serial port of the Psion, but whether the Psion could be made to use its signal is another matter...

,\ndy

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