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Epoc Digest Mon, 03 Feb 2003 Volume 01 : Number 163

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In today's Epoc Digest 18 messages:

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- Re: SMTP-Authentification with a Psion

- pens

- Re: map website

- Yikes! (4 Owen)

- Longevity of screen cable repair (4 Chris)

- Mako Woes (4 Jim)

- The nine lives of Mako (4 Susan)

- Re: CF and Windows 98 (4 Owen)

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 162 (1)

- Backup Archives, Lights out no keyboard, 5mx pens,

- screen debate, longevity of cable repair, The Psion Who Camefrom The Cold 162 (3)

- Re: Parallel port CF readers, SymLink, CalcIt, netBook v1.2

- Re: CF cards on Psion

- Re: Linking an existing object to an Agenda entry

- Re: Power adaptor

- P800 GPRS Settings?

- ABP Problem, Screen Cable Repair Question

- 9210 firmware upgrade, bugs

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 08:22:55 +0000

From: Ian

Subject: Re: SMTP-Authentification with a Psion

Ulrich Hornstein asked about smtp authentication. I've just noticed that XJMail does smtp authentication, as Peter Rand mentioned in digest 130. The app can be downloaded at:

http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/~ktkawabe/densha_e.html

Best regards

Ian Gollan

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 08:47:42 +0000

From: Derek Clark

Subject: pens

Psion pens are regularly for sale on eBay.

Also, a series 7 (or maybe a netbook) sold for £125 a couple of weeks

ago. It was only up for 2 hours before being bought. I spotted it 2

hours after that :^(

Derek

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 09:42:02 +0000

From: us

Subject: Re: map website

The web address given would not load in opera or web - if UK maps were the goal try multimap light? http://www.multimap.com/map/places.cgi?client=light

Simon

http://www.simon-s.net

From: vlad arghir... Just found this and am trying to find out how to use it on the Psion... Maps... https://my.avantgo.com/home/

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 11:51:55 +0000

From: David Lir

Subject: Yikes! (4 Owen)

"Lucky SOD! My 256 Mb CF is around 2/3 full, and a full backup of my MC218 takes several hours."

Try backing up using a PCMCIA adapter (for a laptop) or an external CF card adapter (for a desktop), coupled with Second Copy 2000. As I mentioned elsewhere SC2K (www.centered.com) works just like FlashBack. Once the first backup has been done only the modified files are backed-up subsequently - with any files deleted on the CF (while still in the Psion) also being deleted from the backup (destination) directory on the PC. A backup of my nearly full 128MB card usually only takes a couple of *minutes* including the app's initial scan. No reason to suffer a 'several hours' CF backup!

-------------------Copied from www.centered.com----------------

Second Copy is designed to maintain a backup of the source files in the destination folder. Second Copy does this by comparing the source and destination files and folders every time it runs a profile. It checks the date and time stamps of the files in the two locations and decides which files need to be copied.

The first time Second Copy runs a profile, it copies all specified files from the source to the destination. After that it copies new or changed files. It also copies any files that are missing from the destination. So if you remove some files from the destination they will be recopied when Second Copy runs next time.

This is different than the conventional backup programs that do "full backup" and "incremental backup". The conventional "full backup" gives you a full set of all the files and the conventional "incremental backup" give you a set of only changed files.

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David Lir - \\:>{o>

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 11:51:59 +0000

From: David Lir

Subject: Longevity of screen cable repair (4 Chris)

"Does anyone have any experience yet of the longevity of the POS screen cable repair? My first one went after two years and June will bring the second anniversary of the repair - I wonder if the fix is better than the original?"

It depends mostly on how often you open/close your machine :). I only open/close my 5mx once or twice a week - I'm hoping the cable will last a good while! FWIW, I think that POS uses the same cable that Psion does; but there is a company in Germany (www.srsgmbh.de) who advertises that they are using an *improved flat cable without the little holes* (where reportedly most cracks start from) for their repairs. They also sell these improved cable for brave do-it-yourselfers!

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David Lir - \\:>{o>

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 11:52:02 +0000

From: David Lir

Subject: Mako Woes (4 Jim)

"I'm still checking to find out if D&G's capacity fix is asoftware fix in addition to the bug software fix, or if they put a larger battery in the unit. I've snt an EMail but haven't ad a reply so far."

Hi Jim,

AFAIK, D&G's 'fix' to lengthen the *runtime* (not actually the capacity) is *software* only. The Revo/Mako battery is calibrated by default to set aside a substantial percentage of the charge (20%?) in order to suitably preserve the contents of the unit's RAM. D&G simply reduces the percentage set aside substantially, thereby providing a longer runtime. Really though, why mess around with a Mako repair and upgrade when English OS 5mx Pro's are available at Clove for £225 and standard 5mx's are available at Exportech for £212 (with a free case)? I moved from a Mako to a 5mx (with a couple of Palms in-between) and couldn't be happier. I've just ordered a Transcend 30X 512MB CF card - and with about 300MB of it already accounted for I couldn't imagine going back to a Psion with a measly 16MB (actually less) of storage! Now a Revo 3 with a backlight, an SD slot, and a LiON pack - that I'd consider!

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David Lir - \\:>{o>

P.S - those poems will be coming *soonish*. :)

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 11:52:06 +0000

From: David Lir

Subject: The nine lives of Mako (4 Susan)

"I have checked POS -- the cost would be about $120 after factoring in shipping, which is slightly lower than the US repair. Another digester (Jim Watson-Gove) gave me another repair source in the UK"

Palmtop Repair Services in Toronto, Canada also repairs Revos/Makos. The proprietor, Shiva, has an *excellent* reputation here in Toronto, and is well known in the Toronto Psion user community.

Palmtop Support Services

Shiva Naipaul

416-410-Palm (72www.410palm.com

1235 Bay Street. 10th Floor

Toronto, Ontario M5R 3K4

Canada

Also, Clove has English OS 5mx Pro's available for £225 and standard 5mx's are available at Exportech for £212 (with a free case). Might be worth *considering* :)

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David Lir - \\:>{o

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 11:52:09 +0000

From: David Lir

Subject: Re: CF and Windows 98 (4 Owen)

"> I have a CF card reader attached to my home PC

> (Windows 95) as well as my office PC (Windows NT4)

> and have no problems with copying files back and

> forth.

> [Unquote]

I wonder what the difference is then. I assume you do use long filenames on your Psions, as it's only the long names that cause probems. Will WindoZe create a trashcan on your CF if you delete something?"

The difference is that you're probably using Windows 98SE and Rolf isn't :) Windows 98SE will indeed truncate long filenames on the CF. I don't know if it's true, but I've read that Win 98SE has a bug in its PCMCIA driver and that this bug is the cause of filenames being truncated. At any rate, I find that backing up my CF to my laptop using a PCMCIA adapter works just fine, with *no* truncating of filenames etc., using a wonderful little app: Second Copy 2000. SC2K is basically FlashBack for the PC - it even offers profiles just like FlashBack. I use SC2K weekly to backup the CF in my 5mx to my Panasonic Toughbook laptop's HD, and then the laptop's D: partition and Desktop to an external, PCMCIA-attached, IBM shock-mounted HD. I should also mention that though I do browse the CF while it's sitting in the PCMCIA adapter from within Windows, and I do add, delete, move, rename and otherwise manipulate files on the CF in Windows, I *rarely* see filenames being truncated any more. I do notice that if I clear *everything* off the CF and then copy my backup files back to the CF from the PC - then I *will* see quite a few truncated filenames; but the data itself is intact and ok - I just name the files back manually. I haven't needed to copy back a backup though since I reformatted my CF disk with Smart Format (Fat 16/16), and so I'm only seeing a very occasional filename being truncated and uppercased now. As for that recycle bin - it's just a folder on the Psion; it's perfectly safe to trash it! :)

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David Lir - \\:>{o>

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 12:30:42 +0000

From: "J. Hamwee"

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 162 (1)

Christopher Marwood wrote:

>> I have now managed to lose the pens from both my 5mx and my spare MC218 Is anyone aware of anyone offering them for sale still, or can I make anyone an offer they can't refuse??

I have just come across a spare that you are welcome to have (complimentary) if you send me a mailing address.

Regards

Joseph

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 14:21:19 +0000

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Backup Archives, Lights out no keyboard, 5mx pens,

Answer to: Christopher Gharibo

Re.: Backup Archives - If a file is present in the back-up but not anymore on the Psion, it will be archived to the "archive level". This means that if you by mistake deleted a file from your Psion, you can still find it back in the archive folders. The next time you back-up and it is not present on your Psion it will be moved to the next level of archive folder untill in the end it is deleted from the back-up folders. You can choose somewhere in Psiwin the level of archive folders, but I am not sure how many levels is the maximum. You could create 10 serial back-ups by creating 10 different folders to back-up to and resetting Psiwin each time to a different folder. However, it would mean that each back-up will take a long time as there will be a lot of differences between the back-up folders and the current Psion ones.

Answer to: mark deppe

Re. Lights out no keyboard - Another solution is a small program called Nightkeys. I am typing this now from a small keyboard at the bottom of my screen. It is a little bit difficult and slower, but I think you get used to it quite easily. The main problem is that when mishitting the space bar you move back to the main screen and continue typing on a different line. Otherwise a great little program.

Answer : Christopher Marwood

Re. 5mx pens - i think they are still available form the usual places like Clove, Expansys, Widget, etc. They do a neat little package of 3 coloured all plastic ones for something below 4 pounds which will fit in the holder as well.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 14:58:00 +0000

From: vlad arghir

Subject: screen debate, longevity of cable repair, The Psion Who Camefrom The Cold 162 (3)

> From: Rolf Brunsting

> ...

> Oh dear! I hope this doesn't revive the 'Green versus Grey' debate.

:-)

Wasn't aware it's old - anyway, no need 2 revive it 4 me, your summary was quite vivid enough! :-)

Just wondering: they had _two_ screen both ok+ but _wan_ pain in the a...c plug of a screencable. Maclike through & through, just not so big...

> Christopher Marwood

> longevity of screen cable repair... any experience yet... POS... repair?

1 year since repair & opening the shell 20-odd times a day. Where's that in the statistics? POS did a good job fast & were helpful on the phone.

Just that (not starting another debate but,) the new screen-case is also a darker grey than the (original) rest - and the protection foil on the screen itself is slightly bulging. Also a known dis/re/pute? :-)

From: "Stephane Sage"

> ... would certainly NOT advise any of you to put their Revo or 5mx in the > cold.. moist ambient air ...become icy inside the machine.

I hadn't thought of this... T'is winter and Christmas way ahead. Should I revert to postit, freeze-proof ballpoint and trigger-finger-free sharpshooters' gloves? ;-)

best,

vlad

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 15:06:02 +0000

From: "Martin Guthrie"

Subject: Re: Parallel port CF readers, SymLink, CalcIt, netBook v1.2

Reply to: Owen H. Morgan

>>>>

> An alternative is an external PC-Card drive like > the Sony MSAC-PR1 we use at the office. The Sony > has a parallel port interface and comes with

> drivers for Windows 95, 98 and NT.

Copying several Gigs of data from my 13 Gig external harddisk via a parallel port interface would probably be rather tedious (if it will work at all). <<<<

Actually Owen I used a parallel port CF reader on my PC for 4 years and only just switched to a USB reader - and then only because I wanted a 'multi-card' reader. The parallel port reader was (I think) perhaps slightly slower - but not by a great deal. I don't know what the spec.'ed speed of a parallel port is (to compare against USB 1.1) - but are you sure you're not confused with a serial port (which certainly would be

snail-like!)? You could copy an entire 128Mb CF card full of data on my parallel reader in about 15 minutes I think...

Reply to : David Lir

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I had decided to register Symlink; but the registration service suggested in the help file (Shareit) now lists the app as 'unavailable'. Anybody know of any other way to buy this app? I find it quite handy to be able to link my Agenda tasks to relevant folders and files. I hope this isn't yet another unregisterable program!

<<<<

Unfortunately the author (John Forrest) has disappeared from the Psion Pscene. I use SoundTrans (also his) which I'm thankfull I registered some years ago. Al Richey had to remove John's program(s) from RMRSoft as people couldn't register them anymore...

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I'm trying to locate a 'live' download for CalcIt by Colin Shearing. So far all the links I've found are dead. Does anyone know an URL where this macro can still be downloaded from? Alternatively can someone email the file to me? I'm also looking for Colin's other macros: DateIt, DateOn5 and JotPad. I'm also looking for CreatLink and FollowLink mentioned on the Digest recently.

<<<<

Another 'est disparu'... I typed in Colin's old web address (http://www.btinternet.com/~colin.shearing/Psion.htm) into the Web Archive (http://web.archive.org) and (evenually) it came back with a number of caches - the last being Oct 11, 2000. With a bit of jumping around, I managed to download Re-Date (but nothing else) before the Web Archive started timing out on me. You might want to send an email to the guys at PocketIQ (www.pocketiq.com) as they used to offer all his software I

believe - they may still have local copies.

Reply to: "Stephane Sage"

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Martin, with ref. to the diff between ver 1 and ver 1.2, I only know that the hardware has been slightly modified by Psion so as to accept PC Cards treue to official specs (but some people already mean that this an outdated format...) on the Netbook ver 1.2. Also, I am not very familiar with this machine. I shall know more in a few weeks time, but again it seems that teh Netbook II is a mere fantasy...

<<<<

Thanks for the reply Stéphane. Actually I managed to get myself a v1.2 motherboard 2nd-hand netBook (< 6 months old). It was ridiculously cheap (just to depress anyone who recently went out and spent full price!

<grin>) - UKP 225 (say approx. €/$ 350) inc. 32Mb DIMM, PSU, etc. I found it on Loot - but there are similar prices (well, slightly higher actually - I checked) being paid on eBay's UK site. And you're right about the mod. Psion call it the 'Power Mod.' and it basically lets the machine deliver more power to the PCMCIA slot so that Ethernet/GPRS/Wi-Fi/Modem cards that need it will work. Oh, and the word I've heard about the netBook II is that it's certainly not fantasy...

I must admit, the netBook is a magnificent machine - I wish I'd bought one years ago!

Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

www.pscience5.net

www.freepoc.org

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 15:06:05 +0000

From: "Martin Guthrie"

Subject: Re: CF cards on Psion

Reply to: "Stephane Sage"

>>>>

Some more info on CF cards: check www.pscience5.net/hints_tips/compact_flash.htm (apparently written by Martin Guthrie...). An amazing piece of knowledge on the subject.

<<<<

With the help of a lot of very helpful data contributors Stéphane. :-)

BTW, having tried similar experimentation (to that on my website) with my new netBook, I notice that netBook (and S7) CF timings are a lot different to 5/5mx timings. I'll investigate further and update the website on this in due course.

Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

www.pscience5.net

www.freepoc.org

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 15:09:45 +0000

From: Jan R Gustafsson

Subject: Re: Linking an existing object to an Agenda entry

Greg Monney wrote:

> >Is it possible to link an existing Sheet or Word

> file into an Agenda entry?

There is also quite another approach to this: have a look at the interesting sw X-LinK by Eric Sebban at www.corisoft.fr

IMO, the ER5 release is a little buggish though.

Cheers,

Jan G

Stockholm, Sweden

PS. Thanks for all suggestions concerning formatting CF cards. DS.

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 18:00:46 +0000

From: U Hornstein

Subject: Re: Power adaptor

Ulrich wrote:

"MHO: a regulated supply is a must. I would not dare to use an unregulated one. But the regulated ones are not expensive any more."

David asked:

<Forgive my ignorance; how does one know that a particular AC adapter is regulated? Must it say 'regulated' or similar somewhere on it? I'm using Palmtec's travel-sized adapter with my 5mx (though I rarely need it), and it works well, even has an extra long tip to better fit Palmtec's hardcase. However, it doesn't say that it is regulated -- does this indicate that it is *not* regulated?

Since you have used it and it works, be happy. Most probbly it is a regulated one - it seems to be made especially for the Psion (long tip).

I am not really sure how it should be 'officially' printed on the case. My Psion Original supply has "6V =" on it, the = sign means DC. Eventually unregulated supplys have a = sign with one of the lines dotted on it.

Never use one which says 6V ~ on it - this means AC which is no good for the Psion.

This info about markings is only according to my best of knowledge, no guarantee. Maybe someone with a more settled knowledge can jump in.

Of course, one can measure it with the proper equipment, but I don't wanna go into that.

With greetings from Germany

Ulrich Hornstein

sent by MC218 (EPOC palmtop)

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 18:56:16 +0000

From: Johan Lindahl

Subject: P800 GPRS Settings?

Hi!

I have recently bought myself the SonyEricsson P800 mobile phone/pda combo.

I wonder if any of you have the correctt Psion modem GPRS settings for this device?

So far i've only managed to connect with GSM.

Bye the way, it's a great device. But I still can't leave my Psions behind :-)

Regards,

Johan Lindahl

Stockholm, Sweden

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 19:58:02 +0000

From: "Woody B"

Subject: ABP Problem, Screen Cable Repair Question

As part of my New Year resolution, I'm tracking my spending. Cut back on food, clothes, heat and spend more on computers! Still learning ABP; investments being the next project to enter. After reading a tutorial on RMRBank, believe I have a grasp of Accounts, and Investments. But in looking at my end of Jan. info I found an error, or calculation I can't seem to track down. In one catagory "computer" (of course) I find only 2 charges totally $29.++ but the monthly budget vs spent shows "computer" at $38.++. I can't seem to find that extra charge or to find where I might have put a credit vs a debit or something else. I used Find to look for the word computer (found only the 2 charges), various amounts to search for, both debit and credit, no luck. Any help ideas for listings/printouts to find my error, I'd appreciate.

I'm in the US, but have looked at the cable repair info from

http://www.srsgmbh.de/en/kabel.html Has anyone tried this repair and how is it working out? The cables are suppose to be better than ones from Psion.

Thanks, WoodyB

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Date: 2 Feb 2003 22:14:22 +0000

From: Kevin Thorne

Subject: 9210 firmware upgrade, bugs

As my 9210 is still under a year old I'm thinking of taking advantage of being able to get its firmware upgraded free by an official UK Nokia service centre whilst I still have the chance. Mine is v3.62 and I believe the latest version is v4.13. The only thing is know for sure is the later firmware allocates the very limited execution memory (RAM) more efficiently - something very useful when having so little to begin with! Are there any other major improvements to the firmware?

I'm sure I've read somewhere that there is a bug on the 9210 as follows. If you try to set your own incoming SMS alert (as opposed to the standard ones in ROM) by using your own wav sound files then there is no sound played at all when receiving an SMS (voice call ring tones are OK). This then affects the clock alarm with it not sounding (but it does still display on-screen) until a reset is performed. Using a standard tone from ROM works fine and doesn't affect the other alarms.. Perhaps this is now fixed with firmware v4.13? Can any 9210 owners confirm this?

Regards

Kevin Thorne

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