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In today's Epoc Digest 22 messages:
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- Re: Netbook Shutoff
- Unix, MacOsX and Psion emulation
- Macro
- X-Convert
- Re: Palmcase netBook hardcase?
- Weather Fax
- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 192
- New Psion
- RE: EPOC icon removal from PC desktop
- Roaming Email / Vaio / New Psion
- Re: File' not found'
- Oxford English Dictionary in TomeRaider format.
- Aleck, Mac again
- Power supply
- Re: netBook as an Office
- Re: Pocket Reader
- nB: which type 'plug adapter'?
- Re: Roaming (dialling adjustment 4 Darryl)
- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 192
- Linux Users?
- Re : Roaming no sent email
- Roaming
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 05:19:44 -0500
From: Manuel Campos Galvan
Subject: Re: Netbook Shutoff
Re: netBook shutoff
I located the switch and pressed it to no avail. Control panel has the power off when case closed box ticked. Tried a soft reset to no avail. I have to make time to try a hard reset though!. I'll let you know what happens.
Re: VNC/Citrix
>Didn't you just write that you had VNC, and that you could remote control >your PC?
>I'd say you have all the tools you need...
Yes, I can control the PC, but the problem is speed. If you are not on a high speed line, then it is difficult to manage working remotely (at least in my experience). Also, VNC is of little use if you are not tethered to a high speed connection (perhaps on a train, airplane or hotel). Thus, receiving a Word document (you lose all formatting) an excel spreadsheet or wordperfect document you need to open and review and not being able to convert it, is a bit of a problem.
Manuel Cam
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 05:35:19 -0500
From: Tim Williams
Subject: Unix, MacOsX and Psion emulation
On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 01:21 AM, Astrid wrote:
> You can run Linux on your 5mx.
That's good to know - thanks.
Because MacOsX is Unix based, and because there is Unix emulation of Windows, there has been talk on various sites of Apple's possible intention to include this emulation in future releases of MacOs X. Then all you have to do is buy Windows.
(I understand absolutely nothing about command line computing but I've managed to get Gimp and Abiword working on my eMac via X11. Abiword is particularly useful as it has filters for Psion word format.)
Does all this mean that it is now possible to emulate the Psion on the Mac?
Best
T
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 05:45:24 -0500
From: Tim Williams
Subject: Macro
I should like two separate macros for Macro 5, one to call up the IR send function, the other for the IR receive function. These two commands do not have a keyboard shortcut.
Do such macros exist?
T
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 06:09:49 -0500
From: Manuel Campos Galvan
Subject: X-Convert
I am trying to get a hold of copies of X-convert to install in my 5mx (I have a registered version on my netbook), but I seem to be unable to find the xsoft website www.x-soft.cz A search in google resulted inconclusive. Has this software developer gone under?
Thanks and best regards,
Manuel Cam
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 06:17:53 -0500
From: Keith Giles
Subject: Re: Palmcase netBook hardcase?
David Lir wrote:
> speak), and as far as I can tell, none of these dealers (including Palmcase > themselves) ships to Canada? Any help in locating a source for these netBook > hardcases that will ship to Canada will be greatly appreciated!
Palmcase's site says they ship outside the EU (I think Canada is
outside the EU <g>) for an additional 20 euros. I'm sure if you
write them in Englthey'll reply in
English.
Have you considered Palm-Tec (now Proporta) cases? I found this at
Expansys: http://www.expansys.us/product.asp?code=S7SRC. I guess it
all depends upon just how you are going to be carrying your Psion. I
use a hard case when I carry mine in my bicycle handlebar bag. But I
use a Vega hip-holster when I'm walking about.
Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 06:39:22 -0500
From: "Jim Cooke"
Subject: Weather Fax
>To: "RJCT"
>Subject: Receiving HF weatherfax on a Psion
>Has anybody succeeded in getting a Psion to receive marine weatherfax via SSB radio? Any tips appreciated!>
Richard>
Richard,
I haven't seen any programs that would work with the Psion. All the ones I've looked at so far are for Windows and depend on using the speaker/headphone jack from an SSB radio and a cable with a connector to a standard PC serial port or USB port on the other end. The PC then decodes the tones being transmitted by the radio station into a viewable picture on the PC. Since we plan on doing several years worth of sailing starting next year, I'd be interested if anyone else has nay different information since the Psion would be a nice backup to the PC.
Regards, Jim
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 08:34:22 -0500
From: Philip Crookes
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 192
To: Aleck Cartwright
> Subject: Re: Compact Flash Reader, USB connector, iMac and Series 5mx >
> Hi there,
> I am seeking advice of how to connect my series 5mx and my iMac at work. > I could buy a compact flash reader, or a USB connector to use my serial > cable and transfer files.
> I am wondering how other mac users have done it and what they would
> advise others to do.
> Which is faster, compact flash reader (USB) or adaptor from serial cable > to USB?
> Which is cheaper to buy?
I would recommend getting a CF reader (can be had for about EUR10, equivalent to about US$10). This assuming that your Mac will read the files written by the Psion and vice-versa - I was quite put out once to discover that Zip disks written by Macs can't be read in Zip drives connected to other machines - apparently the file formats are too different to be readable.
My experience of the serial connector as PsiWin is that the program is designed to expect to run only on a PC that has com ports 1 and 2 available, and will balk if thse conditions aren't met. It is also likely to fall over in any one of a undred other unpredictable circumstances where anything you have in the main computer is, or might be, accessing the comports.
It's reliability seems to be controlled through a NOT SOMETIMES logic gate.
I'm not aware that anyone has yet made PsiWin work using a USB-serial adaptor, for the reasons suggested above.
It would be good, though I imagine the market is not big enough, if someone would design and market a PMCIA or serial to USB adaptor for the Psion, proobably drawing power from a separate battery supply. That would give the Psion infinitely greater connectivity than it now enjoys.
Philip
To: "Saj Jumaani"
> Subject: netBook-laptop connectivity failure
>
> HELP EVERYONE!
>
> I AM P****D OFF! (sorry). I bought a laptop so I can enhance the netB's
> potential. My problem is the NETBOOK ISN'T ESTABLISHING CONNECTION TO
> THE LAPTOP (grrrr...).
>
> My laptop is a Sony Vaio ports are 3USB (located at the R, L & back of
> the laptop), 1 parallel (female), 1 for a monitor (female - not sure if
> this is serial as it has more than 9 holes. Tried using the infra-red
> connection but failed.
I don't think you will get it to work using USB (see my reply to Aleck elsewhere in this Digest).
I think the infrared connector is probably the wrong standard for Psion - others here know the technicalities better than I do, but my understanding is that the subset of the standard used by Psion is not compatible with the standard for IR devices now most commonly encountered, and that this is not trivially easily rectified on either machine.
I have never heard of using the serial-parallel cable (normnally supplied for use with a printer) as two-way data transfer device other than for datsa being sent to a printer. I don't know if that would work but I suspect it wouldn't.
My VAIO (FX301) has a serial connector which does wotk with the Psion, under WinMe and Windows XP.
But the simplest way to go for me is to take out the CF disk and read it in the other machine. The netBook will read files written by the Vaio, you can covert formats easily using NConvert, MP3 files play in the netBook without alteration, and you don't have to have nything to do with the horrid PsiWin, which I don't think is much good.
Like too much of the Psion support programming (wireless LAN card drivers, for instance), it is written to work in a very narrowly defined set of circumstances, which may not be the cirumstances present in your set-up.
To Owen Morgan
> Subject: Re: NetBook keyboard redifined
>
> Howdy!
>
> Philip Crookes wrote (> ):
>
> > The problem is that if you have the German version
> > of the OS, which I do and which matches the
> > keyboard configuration of my netBook, this utility
> > isn't included at all. And that's annoying.
> > Solutions, anyone?
>
> That's easy enough. Install whatever language version of the OS you
> prefer, then use Alexander Zavorine's excellent Key Mapper to configure
> your keyboard. Have a look at www.zavorine.com.
Thanks Owen. This I will try...
To: "Sergio"
> Subject: Psion, back again?
>
> >From www.geek.com
>
> <<
> According to Baz, a snippet from UK's 'The Business', p.7, 02-Feb-2003,
> Psion is going to release a new super-portable handheld geered towards
> the personal computing market.
> "Psion, which was once on a par in the PC market with Microsoft and
> Palm, is to return to the personal computing market with a new,
> super-portable handheld cross between a laptop and a personal organiser.
> It hopes to apply expertise gained since its merger with industrial
> computer manufacturer Teklogix"
I wonder if this is a reference to the new netBook, reputed to be upcoming and runnoing WinCE, a dicision that would turn m firmly against the machine, not for religious reasons, but rather because I have no evidence that WinCe is a reliable platform for anything.
Philip
To: Stephen.Murgan
> Subject: Re: False Representation?
> If the 5mx was a car there would have been a class action lawsuit by
> now. As things stand, I am now actively looking to change machines
> before this one conks out and its value drops to zero.
>
More lawyers,more money, more pressure on small companies to get out of that litigious marketplace! This strikes me as a bit of an over-reaction. Have you yet had a probolem? Have you any quanifiable loss as a result of this design fault, if that's what it is? Is it worse than the myriad bugs that plague Windows and Mac operating systems and cost millions each year in lost data? What is the reasonable expectation of performance from a low-cost PDA? One year? Two years? Is the Psion 5mx a better or worse performer than the Ipaq, which has at least one website (that's one more than the Psion) devoted entirely to its design and performance failures?
And the Psion isnt a car, its use threatens no lives, and you won't get hurt if it fails at high speed.
Perhaps it's just as well that in the UK, where the Psion company lives, there is no such thing as a 'class action'.
Philip
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 09:31:09 -0500
From: "Ian Chapple"
Subject: New Psion
I came across the following at PdaGeek (www.pdageek.com)
"According to Baz, a snippet on page 7 of February 2nd, 2003's The Business (out of the U.K.) indicates that Psion is going to release a new super-portable
handheld
geared towards the personal computing market.
Psion, which was once on a par in the PC market with Microsoft and
Palm, is to return to the
personal computing market with a new, super-portable handheld cross
between a laptop and a
personal organiser. It hopes to apply expertise gained since its
merger with industrial
computer manufacturer Teklogix."
Cheers, Ian.
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 09:41:55 -0500
From: "John"
Subject: RE: EPOC icon removal from PC desktop
I recently replaced my home PC, and stupidly stopped the installation of EPOCSync part-way through the set-up process. I tried to reinstall, but the install program detects a previous copy & refuses to proceed. I have tried to delete & uninstall every reference to EPOC & Psion (including the registry using REGEDIT, probably being extremely reckless to do so!). However the desktop "My Psion" Icon just will not disappear, no matter how I try to delete it. I feel that if I could remove it then I could attempt a fresh install of PsiWin.
Any suggestions, or do I need to format my hard-drive?
Thanks
John Morris
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 10:15:32 -0500
From: "Rick Gillyon"
Subject: Roaming Email / Vaio / New Psion
> From: Darryl Kempster
> Subject: Roaming / Cable connection to mobile
>
> I'm on a tour of Europe at the moment - 17 countries in
> total. Been using an Ericsson R520m mobile and netBook to
> email using a UK dial up account with no problem till country
> no 13 (!) greece where failed to send emails. Could connect
> to the net and download emails but not send.
I assume you're using free UK ISPs? With UK2, Freeserve
etc. you are required to send Caller Id in order to
send emails - many networks while roaming will not send
the Id despite your phone sending it, so you can't send.
Best thing is to try and select another network on your
handset and see if that improves things...
> From: "Saj Jumaani"
> Subject: netBook-laptop connectivity failure
> My laptop is a Sony Vaio ports are 3USB (located at the R, L
> & back of the laptop), 1 parallel (female), 1 for a monitor
> (female - not sure if this is serial
It is not!
> Tried using the infra-red connection but failed.
My understanding is that IR on WinXP won't work
with PsiWin as it doesn't create a virtual Serial
port for IR - this is required for PsiWin.
> PsiWin cable can only be connected to the printer's parallel
> port using a male(serial)-male(parallel) adapter but this
> didn't work either.
Nope, because PsiWin just sees what your laptop
shows it, i.e. a parallel port and no serial port.
> Any suggestions?
Buy another laptop? :)
Some have reported success with USB/Serial convertors,
but I'm not sure how well this works with PsiWin.
Do you still need to create a virtual Serial port?
> From: "Sergio"
> Subject: Psion, back again?
> "Psion, which was once on a par in the PC market with
> Microsoft and Palm, is to return to the personal computing
> market with a new, super-portable handheld
New netBook perhaps? I want a PDA, not a PDA/laptop cross...
BTW, a little while ago the PDA "expert" at PCPro (normally
very reliable) stated in his column that Psion Teklogix is
no longer a Symbian licensee. If true, that means any future
netBook will be CE only - a bad move for most of us here.
Bye,
Rick
http://www.gillyon.com/
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 13:15:49 -0500
From: "B.Hanno"
Subject: Re: File' not found'
Hi,
I have wondered why it is that with CheckDisk I get the same error message you describe. Even though my Psion 7 (also with mem upgrade) works fine.
The message tells me that continuing would cause greater damage?
I keep thinking that there is a slight fault with my machine? Not so?
This is just a message written out of curiosity and you don't need to reply. Unless you know something about the issue of course and I would be happy to learn about it.
Best regards,
Hanno
"Jon Welford" wrote at 1 Mar 2003 19:27:39 -0500 in EPOC DIGEST V1 # 188
> Hi,
> Can anyone help me with this? E-Mail messed up on
> my S7 so I eventually worked up to a hard reset
> and format and restore of C it all now works but
> when I switch on again I get a 'not found' message
> which I cancel and look in 'running progs
> dialogue' and select the prog I was looking at
> last and all is well. The machine finds a serious
> fault with Checkdisc (Fat redirection table?)but I
> have the mem upgrade and I think that is normal
> with the S7? Again checkdisc can't find the CF.
> Could this be because I back-up c only and have
> not done a backup of d cos of the time it takes
> and this machine seems to drop the connection
> before it finishes.
> Re PiBeam does version 1.00 work with the S7 as
> 1.10 causes problems. It was so long since I reset
> (nearly a year)I had to get the book out! Cheers
> Jon Welford
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 14:38:12 -0500
From: Owen Morgan
Subject: Oxford English Dictionary in TomeRaider format.
Howdy!
Tim Williams was looking for the Oxford English Dictionary for his Psion. As I said in a previous message, I thought I had it somewhere in TomeRaider format. I did a search on my big and "slightly" disorganised external harddisk, and found "OED.tr". The file is just over 8Mb. Unfortunately, there is no way I can e-mail a file of that size via GSM phone.
I suggest you start by searching for the file on the web. I'm pretty sure I originally downloaded it off the TomeRaider web site a few years ago. If all else fails, I may be able to bring it in to work on a CF and get one of my workmates to e-mail it or maybe put it on an FTP server somewhere.
Owen
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:23:07 -0500
From: vlad arghir
Subject: Aleck, Mac again
> Epoc Digest wrote:
> Hi there,
> connect my series 5mx and my iMac at work
> Aleck
In past digests there were a few threads about the Mac.
If you have no specific need for X I'd recommend 9.x
A CF-reader (usb) will do and is oc much faster than cable-transfers NEVER copy Psion system data,
NEVER delete the invisible data the Mac writes to the CF,
and you should be fine. You may occasionally experience corrupt CFs, so dedicate one CF for data-transfer. Do not use your backup CF for this ;-)
Hhere for some (older) Mac tips.
http://www.simonwilliams.com/html/psion5macothertips.html
http://www.simonwilliams.com/html/psion5maclinking.html
best,
vlad
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:51:17 -0500
From: Philip S. A. Potter
Subject: Power supply
Hi,
Renée (I know the difference between Renée and René <G>) has been having trouble with the power supply pin on her 5mx. I don't suppose that it will be easy to fix but I do have a solution that I find excellent.
I use a POD docking station which supplies the power through the Honda connector (only the serial port is available that way though). I don't know how easy it is to get the POD docking station in the USA/Canada as I got mine from Proporta (UK).
I assume the cable Owen mentioned comes from either R(adio)S(pares) or R(adio)S(hack) and is similar to the cable for the POD docking station, i.e. with a separate socket for the Psion power supply. That might be easier to get.
Happy days,
Phil.
"Is it progress if a cannibal uses a knife and fork?"
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 16:36:00 -0500
From: ALYG
(Andrew Longdon)
Subject: Re: netBook as an Office
"Woody B" wrote:
> I keep looking for a (free) PC email program that will let me save > emails to .TXT files in a group.
My PC emailing prog is called Ameol - www.ameol.com (or it might be .co.uk). It allows all sorts of filtering rules to separate email into different mailboxes. I've tried Outlook (2k & Express) as well as many other emailing progs through the years and I still come back to Ameol.
It allows you to export individual or grouped messages to text files. If the file already exists it gives you the option to append the new messages to the file.
Oh, and it's free!
Here's a sample email that I've exported to a text file:-
Received: from 127.0.0.1 by athlon ([127.0.0.1] running VPOP3) with SMTP; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:34:57 +0100
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:34 +0100 (BST)
From: ALYG
(Andrew Longdon)
To: fred_bloggs
CC: ALYG
Reply-To: ALYG
Message-Id: <memo.20021022103457.21389C
X-Ameol-Version: 2.53.2014, Windows 98 4.10.2222 ( A )
X-Server: VPOP3 V1.5.0b - Registered
Subject: Ameol
blah
blah
blah
,\ndy
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 18:21:55 -0500
From: J.
Subject: Re: Pocket Reader
Re To Jaan Sass Subject: Re: Pocket Reader <> 5mx link not working properly
>>>>>.... I am also using v 1.42 and a null modem adapter. The only problem that I have which is listed in the help file usually the last two letters or so or dropped. I also have difficulty keeping the alignment when I am scanning but that is a wrist issue. <<<<<
"Chris Cooper" wrote at 19 Feb 2003 in EPOC DIGEST V1 # 179
>>>>>>....I use a cable provided by serialleads.co.uk,
> which they have checked and confirmed to be
> working OK. The software I use on the Psion is
> Reader v 1.42 by Mark Fleeming http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MarkFleeming/
Re
V14"2" (up to recently quoted v141 on Mark's site) definitely does NOT work on my nB (at least with the provided pK lead + anullmodem + "psiwin" cable).
Mark F. was kind enough to mail his earlier v141 and will actualise his site.
Thanks again Mark!
I'm now able to rewrite the stuff (stôfr) gushing out from the siemens pReader.
Jack
--
Last year's resolution of not procrastinating is still in beta.
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 21:00:52 -0500
From: David Lir
Subject: nB: which type 'plug adapter'?
What kind of 'plug adapter' will I need to make the UK version 7/nB PSU usable in North America? I've got a Malaysian netBook on its way so I need to know ASAP. Basically, I need to know whether I need the grounded 3 prong plug adapter or the regular 2 prong unit. Here are the choices I've found onlonly $1.99 each plus shipping:
1. American 2 prong universal plug adapter.
Converts any plug into a 2 prong USA plug
2. American 3 prong universal plug adapter.
Converts any plug into a grounded 3 prong USA plug
BTW: I'll probably order the UK PSU from Clove - how are they to deal with?
------------------------
David Lir - \\:>{o>
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 22:23:01 -0500
From: J.
Subject: Re: Roaming (dialling adjustment 4 Darryl)
To: Darryl Kempster < Subject: Roaming
I remember having, while in Italy, such a no-dialling problem
As indicated in the nB manual (p195),
I solved it after (slightly) increasing the values of
ToneTime and DelayTime within
Config. Panel / Dialling / Tone dialing /
HTH
Jack
"Cloning is the sincerest form of flattery"
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 22:31:11 -0500
From: Vlad Kuzba
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 192
Subject: Re: Compact Flash Reader, USB connector, iMac
> Which is faster, compact flash reader (USB) or adaptor
> from serial cable to USB?
IMHO a USB reader WILL always be A LOT faster. I thing that connecting a Psion or just any device through a USB adaptor cannot increase the transfer speed as it is always limited by the serial interface.
Just an example, I downloaded a TomeRaider dictionary of about 12 MB i size and I (foolishly) tried to copy it via the serial using the FTPserver app. The estimated time was more than 90 minutes, don't remember exactly. Don't need to say I stopped the transfer immediately. Then, in a CF USB reader the complete process took less than one minute.
> Which is cheaper to buy?
I personally have no experience with the adaptor, but you can get a USB
reader for about 50 euro in my country (the Czech Republic).
Subject: OS/2 - Psion,
> Have you seen this page?
> http://os2.mensys.nl/psion/psion6.html
Yes, months ago, but the only solution is just coping the files (I don't care much about conversions these can be done mostly by nConvert but what I need is TRUE synchronizing with Lotus Organizer. And that doesn't work.
Have a nice day
Vlad Kuzba
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Vladimir KuICQ: 99588132
Written on Fri 07 on a Psion 5mx handheld computer. Sent via GPRS from an Ericsson R520 phone.
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 22:31:21 -0500
From: Vlad Kuzba
Subject: Linux Users?
Hallo digesteers,
I wonder if there are any Linux users among us. What I would like to know is if PsiWin works under Linux version of VMWare.
Thanks a lot
Have a nice day
Vlad Kuzba
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Vladimir KuICQ: 99588132
Written on Fri 07 on a Psion 5mx handheld computer. Sent via GPRS from an Ericsson R520 phone.
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Date: 7 Mar 2003 22:41:02 -0500
From: J.
Subject: Re : Roaming no sent email
To: Darryl Kempster
< no email sending in Greece, Italy
Might be one of the "authorisation" smtp server syndroms
Use the smtp server of the ISP you are connecting to,
or try Xmail,
or one remaining "free" smtp server
Just my .2euro
Jack
PS Have a good end of trip
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Date: 8 Mar 2003 01:39:37 -0500
From: Darryl Kempster
Subject: Roaming
Further to my posting the other day (finally sent from a landline connection in Rome) I managed yesterday to connect to the net with my mobile AND send emails in Reggio Emilia. Failed to send emails in Athens (including hotel landline) , Bari and Rome so looks like a quirk of the southern european phone companies. Hopefully I'm ok from now on as heading for Switzerland and Spain. But would be interested to know if anyone has a workaround cos I'm bound to be back that way again. Had a similar problem in Austria where refused to connect but solved that by selecting another network and connected to the netBook straight away. But tried all available networks in Greece/ southern Italy and all failed.
Cheers
Darryl - In Venice on the TIM network
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