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Epoc Digest Wed, 02 Apr 2003 Volume 01 : Number 219
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In today's Epoc Digest 17 messages:
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- ColorMagic, email/internet access., Malaybooks & GPRS, Accounting,
- NetBook with Cisco 340 WiFi card and WEP?
- GPRS on S7,
- Re: Re: GPRS on S7
- Re: Synching Lotus Organizer Contacts with Psion Contacts
- Re: Powering ntBook in car...
- Re: on why we do not have colour 5 MX etc.
- Re: C700 Redux
- 7 In car?
- Re: Handango & MBMView
- Re: Let's at least try for a new 5mx
- Re: Let's at least try for a new 5mx
- Presentation Maker
- Re: Battery care
- Re: Software for Record collection
- Re: Corrupted Directory/File
- netBook power...
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 09:54:37 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: ColorMagic, email/internet access., Malaybooks & GPRS, Accounting,
Answer to: Neil Thompson
Re.: ColorMagic - There are good number of preset combinations and you can also create your own combination. This gives you an almost unendless set of combinations so have a look at it again.
Answer to: Michael Fryer
Re. email/internet access. - Welcome to the digest. With AOL it is not possible to connect with the REVO as the Psion machines need a POP3 email account. Besides this it is pretty easy. You need a new email address, for example from Freeserve. Look up the settings at the website of Miike McConnell "http://www.mikemcc.net/" and start enjoying it. You can of course also connect via GPRS on your mobile phone, depending on which provider you use. However, if you have free minutes on your phone it might be more expensive (but faster).
Answer to: Daniele Squarci
Re. Malaybooks & GPRS - I use GPRS with my Nokia 6310i and S7 regularly, both in the UK as well as in Europe. However, I don't know what changes they made to the Malaybooks, so can't tell you for sure. Also I never used it with my 5MX, so can't compare it either.
Answer to: Dick Chatjaval
Re. Accounting - Yes, there was a shareware program that was a full fledged double bookkeeping program. I once tried it out but never persevered. try to find it on the Tucows website. If you try it (or another program) out, let us know how well you succeed.
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 12:53:40 +0000
From: "Ronald Jimmink"
Subject: NetBook with Cisco 340 WiFi card and WEP?
Hi,
I'm a recent convert to the Psion NetBook (aka MalayBook ;-). It's now hooked up to a wireless LAN via a Cisco 340 card, as my intention was to have a portable Internet device that can be used throughout the house.
The networking is fine, although I think the upgrade to Opera 5.14 at usd 39 is almost mandatory - the Opera version included can't handle much of today's websites.
My question is about the wireless link. I had originally set up my Access Point to use WEP as a way of securing my LAN. But I haven't found anything in the NetBook that would allow me to use WEP encryption. So I had to turn off WEP to make it work with the NetBook. The only 'security' I have now is setting a specific ESSID in the Access Point (no broadcast) to require the client to present a matching SSID (which you can set in the Cisco 340 settings on the NetBook). But this is rather weak.
Has anyone tried (successfully) to use WEP with a radio LAN on the NetBook - any additional software needed? I apologise if this has been covered in the digest before - I only just joined.
Best regards,
Ronald Jimmink
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 17:01:53 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: GPRS on S7,
Answer to: Andrew Morphett & Daniele
Re.: GPRS on S7 - I use GPRS with my S7 and do not have the Mobile Connectivity Update installed.
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 18:35:31 +0000
From: Daniele Squarci
Subject: Re: Re: GPRS on S7
Ciao Andrew,
>>I remember Mobile Connectivity Update 2.0 is required. However one file that the MCU 2.0 puts on the machine (I think /system/libs/IRDA.prt) should be removed.
That did it! I'm now a happy netBooker :-)
Many thanks!
Daniele Squarci
Italy
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 19:05:00 +0000
From: ALYG
(Andrew Longdon)
Subject: Re: Synching Lotus Organizer Contacts with Psion Contacts
Vlad Kuzba wrote:
> Well, I use Lotus Organizer 6.0 (having used version 5 before) and it > works fine. I suggest deleting (after export) all contacts from one of > the stores (Psion or Lotus) and trying again. Also, there is a small
> file named Epoclog.001 in your temp dictionary that can be the cause of > the trouble. When you delete it, your syncing should be started "from
> scratch".
I did the following:-
Exported all contact entries from the Psion Contacts program and then deleted them and closed it.
I then created a new Lotus Organiser 5.0 file and created an entry in its Contacts section.
I also created an entry in the Psion Contacts prog.
I then deleted Epoclog.001 from the Windows Temp dir (I had to reboot into DOS to do this!).
I then tried to synchronise the two - it didn't work :-( Same error message...
BTW, why does the Synchronising "wizard" always default to "Data" in the Choose Contacts Program window?
,\ndy
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 19:22:51 +0000
From: "Morton Davis"
Subject: Re: Powering ntBook in car...
Further to Mike's suggestion about an inverter, there are generally lots on eBay, including a rather neat Coke-can one to fit in the drinks holder. They seem to go for about £30 + postage, but when I checked in Halfords, theirs were £35 so I got one for the ease of returning it if necessary. Suggested use includes running laptops, portable printers and TVs, radios & CD players and electric shavers. Also, you can charge phones, cameras and power tools, so I expect to have plenty of use for mine, in addition to running the MX5 and the office laptop (cynical smile from wife, who knows how often these gadgets die of loneliness!).
Regards
Morton Davis
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 19:35:55 +0000
From: Owen Morgan
Subject: Re: on why we do not have colour 5 MX etc.
Howdy!
Andrew Gregory wrote (> ):
> The 256 colours is down to the CPU which has the
> LCD controller built-in, and also applies that
> limit.
255 is the highest number that can be represented in 8 bits which means you can have 256 colours (0 to 255) in an 8 bit system.
> I believe the CPU is no longer being
> manufactured, so no doubt a more recent model has
> lifted the limits? BTW, I think the same applies
> to the audio capabilities.
If you add more bits, you need significantly more memory space to store the data. That means the files get bigger and the memory needed by software to display the images gets bigger, so you need significantly more RAM and disk space as well as a more advanced processor. Of course the disk space isn't that much of an issue as the images will probably be jpegs (with all the colours) anyway.
> Still on topic, I didn't mention my latest peeve!
> My recently purchased netBook runs off 15V, which
> is obviously no good for vehicle 12V power
> supplies.
Somebody else suggested a 12V to 240V inverter. As someone who lives with 12V appliances all year round, I can tell you that this is a last resort. It is very wasteful of battery power. This isn't a problem if your engine is running, but it does start to make a major difference if you want to use your toys while your car is parked or in my case while I'm under sail or at anchor.
A 12 - 15V power adapter will probably be cheaper and there's one small unit to carry instead of your Psion AC power supply and the inverter. You'd be even better off with a device that is built to run off 12V though or one that runs off a lower voltage like 6V which is easier and cheaper to get from a 12V supply than 15V.
> Also - it should be some
> sort of a snap-on battery pack arrangement where
> the pack is not fully enclosed by the main body.
Agreed.
> For the folks who want their PDA to be a USB
> master (talk to USB devices) - USB master and
> slave connectors are different. So, if you wanted
> to hook your PDA to your PC *AND* hook your PDA to
> USB devices, your PDA needs to have *two* USB
> connectors. Unless you also want to carry around
> docking stations/adapters, the master USB
> connector would have to be full-size too!
Until I upgraded to a newer laptop, I had never owned a computer with an USB port. Now two months later I own a USB CDRW, a digital camera with USB (to replace my recently damaged Nikon), a USB TV tuner, an MP3 player and a small and pocketable USB hard disk.
The portable harddisk has proved very useful. I simply bought a USB harddisk enclosure (59 Euro) with room for a 2.5" laptop harddisk and installed an old 775Mb disk I had in my spares box. The enclosure is about the size of a packet of cigarettes and when I upgrade the harddisk in the laptop, I'll have a 4 gig disk to install in the enclosure. I would really love to be able to connect this drive to a palmtop for easy access to lots of data in the field and quick and easy backups of the machine. I'd be quite happy to use an external power supply (or battery pack) to power the USB port and drive for the relatively short periods I'd be using it.
With Win2k and XP it's plug and play pray. With '95 and '98 you need to install drivers. I have the drivers in a ZIP file on my Mako, so I just e-mail them to the computer I want to connect the drive to if it's running '98.
> I think
> USB is a really crappy design anyway, but that's
> getting off-topic.
I don't know enough about it to have an opinion about this, but the fact is that there is a lot of USB hardware available and this was the main reason I bought a new(er) laptop.
Whether FireWire or whatever is better doesn't matter much if the device you want is only available with a USB interface. Apart from that, I haven't had any problems with my USB devices. I did buy a PCMCIA USB 2.0 card which didn't work though. It installed all right and WindoZe found the drivers for it, but it didn't work at all with the harddisk, and with the TV tuner it almost worked. I got a signal through which looked like a very weak and distorted TV picture and the sound was also very distorted. I assume that either the USB PCMCIA card was faulty or there was a problem with the Win2k drivers. (Both devices I tried to connect support USB 1.1 and 2.0)
> Yes, I know about USB-to-Go,
> or whatever it's called, but to me that just makes
> USB look more like the hardware equivalent of
> Windows.
I haven't the foggiest idea what USB-to-Go is.
Owen
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 19:36:12 +0000
From: Owen Morgan
Subject: Re: C700 Redux
Howdy!
Jim Cooke wrote (> ):
> the vast majority of people do run computers with
> Windows.
This is slightly besides the point as we're talking palmtops rather than laptops or desktops. However, I seem to remember from somewhere that the majority of computers in the world do NOT run a M$ OS. The majority of home desktop systems (that are still in use) do though.
> Win2k and Win XP boot in
> less than 30 seconds, not a huge problem for many
> people.
I'm running Win2k on my Toshiba and it has NEVER EVER booted in as little as 30 seconds even when I'd just installed WindoZe to a freshly formatted disk and not added any software or drivers. A couple of minutes is more like it. I'm on the bus to work now, but I'll time it tomorrow.
Even if the 30 seconds were attainable, it would be totally unacceptable for the way most people use palmtops. I will quite often ask someone a question, open the Mako, switch to Contacts or Jotter and make a note of their reply. Whether I'm on the phone or talking to someone face to face, I do not want to have ask them to wait a minute first for WindoZe to boot and then for me to open the relevant application and create a new entry.
I'm now working as ground crew for RyanAir at Dublin airport. I quite often grab a few minutes to write e-mails between flights. If my flight comes in early, or I'm asked to grab a van and pick up someone at the offices, I simply close the Mako and slip it in my pocket. I could not ask the aircraft with all her passengers or the managing director of RyanAir to wait a minute while windoZe shuts down. For a desktop system which is switched on in the morning and left on all through the working day, bootup time isn't a major issue. For a palmtop, instant on is essential. And yes, I know that you can hibernate a laptop, but my experience (from Win95 and 98) is that if you don't reboot WindoZe at least once a day, it will crash regularly.
> I'd also argue
> that, for less than twice the price for the Sony,
> you're getting way more
> than twice the capabilities of the C700.
But do you need these capabilities in a palmtop?
Owen (In sunny, but windy Dublin)
Thought for the day:
To be happy for a night, get drunk;
To be happy for a month, get married;
To be happy for life, get a sailboat.
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Dublin City Moorings
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 19:51:29 +0000
From: Tom Robertson
Subject: 7 In car?
Hi all,
Just a quickie - in car stand for the psion 7 - does such a thing exist??
Secondly, I have a psion 7 for sale... surplus to requirements - completely unused and thus in v.g. condition - £330
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 21:06:38 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Handango & MBMView
Dear Edgar,
<< FYI Handango is the OFFICIAL distributor of MBM View ... >>
Read the documentation that comes with MBMView and you know that Handango is but one of the on-line retailers you could purchase MBMView from. It's certainly not "the official distributor".
--
Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 21:06:43 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Let's at least try for a new 5mx
Dear Owen,
<< The colour option should have good enough colour resolution to be able to be used as a photo album. With only 256 colours like the netBook, colour wouldn't be worth the higher price and poorer battery performance for me >>
There you have one of the problems. I've just taken a photo using my 2.1 megapixel Canon Ixus 300 to check my figures. The photo's a compressed 810 kByte using the high-quality setting and the maximum 1600 by 1200 resolution. It's an uncompressed 1.9 MByte when displayed at 256 colours. Increase colour depth from 8 to 16 bit (256 to 64k colours) and the photo will be an uncompressed 3.8 MByte. A screen that's fit for a new model to be used as a photo album means that the processor as well as the memory capacity need to beefed up. Add the fact that my Ixus 300 is an old model, current cameras in the same price range have 3.3 and 4.0 megapixel CCDs and you have to think about adding hardware assisted JPEG decompression. Think of the effect this will have on battery consumption.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 21:06:45 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Let's at least try for a new 5mx
Dear Philip,
<< 1. Same form factor .... 5. PMCIA port .... 7. Room for another pair of AA cells .... >>
It sure is a wish list as I don't know how these three wishes can be reconciled. Add a PC-Card slot while keeping the dimensions of the Series 5(mx) means that you have to shrink the motherboard considerably This inevitably means that you have to combine the functions of a few separate, mass produced, ICs into one or two custom ICs. That's not an inexpensive exercise. As for the two additional AA batteries, I don't see where they can be accommodated in the current Series 5(mx). They'll have to be tagged on in parallel to the current pair, meaning a change of dimensions.
<< I wonder if Psion would be willing to license the current design for future development ... >>
I don't see how some of the new features people have put forward can be implemented in the current Series 5(mx). Some of them require space in or on the unit that's simply not there. You can't make them fit without going for a new design. It's then better to license the one key design element of the Series 5(mx), the slide-out keyboard, and to ditch all the rest. This changes the economical picture you've painted as you're creating a new handheld computer from scratch.
<< At this point the maths become interesting. If a production run of 250 000 could be assured, and the machines were outsourced to China, we might expect that each machine could roll off the line for around GBP 100 (USD/EUR 150) >>
Rule of thumb is that retail price equals ex-factory price times 2.5. The factor 2.5 paying for distribution, distributor and retailer margins, warranty costs, promotion, etc. Given the wishes of some of the Digest members we're dealing with a device that's equivalent to a top-of the line Compaq iPaq which costs around the €700.= mark over here. Apply our rule of thumb and this iPaq's ex-factory price is about €280.=. Now, the idea is to fit the new model with a 640 by 240 pixel colour screen rather than the iPaq's 320 by 240 pixel screen. This has an effect on price as the LCD panel is the single most expensive component and we're going for a larger one. A series 5(mx) like model is also more 'complex' to manufacture than a single-bodied iPaq. I therefore don't see how we're going to get down to a €150.= ex-factory price.
<< The alternative would be for a user group to license development rights in ER5 software and hardware from Psion, again on a royalty basis, with a view to enhancing existing machines. >>
Well ... as Digest subscribers form such a user group the question is whether we have the means to do so? That is, do we have the technical skills in electronic, mechanical and production engineering? Are we able to raise a collective pot of money to finance additional developments, making these ready for mass production, purchasing the components and having the devices manufactured? I think that it's already quite difficult to raise the finances to have Flextronics produce another batch of 500 Series 5mx.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 21:49:29 +0000
From: "Neil Thompson"
Subject: Presentation Maker
Has anyone had any success with converting presentations on a machine with both Powerpoint 2000 and 95 - I had hoped that I could have the legacy version to allow conversion and version 2000 for latest compatability. Anyone got any ideas how to make this work?
Thanks
Neil.
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 22:22:10 +0000
From: Tony Napier
Subject: Re: Battery care
I am hoping to keep my Revos and S7 going as long as possible. I would be grateful for guidance on these questions.
1. I have purchased a spare S7 battery which is still in it's box unused. Do I keep it unused as it is or should I charge it up every so often?
2. I have a spare Revo with all data loaded identical to my "in use" machine. Should I
a) back this up to my PC and then let it run down to full discharge and leave it discharged until it's needed or
b) Keep it attached to a charger hence fully charged on "stand by" or
c) charge it fully every so often and let it discharge before charging it again?
Tony
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 22:28:34 +0000
From: Marek Oswiecimski
Subject: Re: Software for Record collection
Owen Morgan asked [Digest #217]:
"I'm looking for software to organise my record collection. [...] I need to be able to do nested searches. [...]
I do have a copy of Powerbase somewhere, but gave up on it when I last loked at it a couple of years ago as I found the learning curve was too steep to be worth the effort. However, I assume someone may already have made a suitable Powerbase template?"
There are a few PowerBase templates provided by the developer together with the app. You should see a dialogue 'Install sample databases?' while installing Powerbase on your device. (Choose 'Yes' and make sure that they are installed on the same disk as the application itself.) There is at least one template among them which you may like to explore. Please, open the application from the Extras Bar, then choose: Menu -> File -> Create new -> Database -> Based on template -> 'My Library -> Create example records.
This template is meant to encompass your books, music and video collections. As music is all you need, some tables and fields will probably be redundant -- so you may like to customise this database somewhat. (For instance, consider deleting the fields: Category, Media, and Type from the primary table 'The Collection', as well as the respective secondary tables 'Type of Artist', 'Type of Item', 'Type of Media'.)
"I would also prefer if the application works on the Mako and S7 / NetBoook and supports embedded images (for album covers), preferably in colour"
PowerBase works smoothly on my netBook (don't know about Mako), and supports embedded objects. You can, for example, go to the table 'The Collection, and create a new field: 'Cover' -- choosing the field type Embedded object'. If you do it on S7/netBook, the embedded Sketch file can be in full colour! (Even though PowerBase itself is Black & White only.) However, the size of your database will substantially increase -- as images tend to take quite a lot of storage space.
If you are more lucky then me, and happen to have a working copy of Symlink (by disappeared Treesoft), you can also include in your database its 'links' as embedded objects. Then you will be able to keep the CD covers separately, as standalone yet linked files. (I think, it makes more sense in case of a huge collection.)
"I don't want to have to type in all the information again (I did that when I ripped the files), so I need to be able to export the MP3 tags from MusicMatch (or something else on the PC) and import them to the Psion application."
I believe, you should look for an export option to a sort of delimited text file -- or to a database format that can be converted with PsiWin/nConvert/2Convert. It's not so easy, though, to import data to multi-table PowerBase, so some extra work might be eventually required. As far as images are concerned, I can see no way of importing them to the PowerBase (you'd have to add them one by one from within the app).
In general, PowerBase seems to be quite convenient for your purpose, and IMO worthwhile examining.
Best regards
Marek
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 22:43:50 +0000
From: Neil Millstone
Subject: Re: Corrupted Directory/File
Hi,
I have had this exact same problem, it seems that the differences between FAT16 and the file system the Psion uses are enough to cause major problems. I have often copied files to and from the Psion's root directory using a USB CF reader without problems.
But when I tried to create a folder using Windows 2000, the folder name appears messed up on the Psion, and neither the PC or the Psion would delete the folder. I thought about copying the CF over onto the PC hard disk, reformating the CF and then copying back, but when I've done this in the past, filename capitalization has been messed up by windows, which means many apps don't work any more.
What I recommend is this:
- Make an image of your CF with WinImage. This is able to restore your CF to it's current state if things go wrong, and will let you have another go.
- Use RMRZip to zip up all the files on the CF into a ZIP. This takes forever. :-)
- Copy the zip off the CF onto the PC
- Reformat the CF in the Psion,
- Copy the zip back onto the Psion
- Finally, use RMRZip to unzip the data back to it's original location
Of course, you need plenty of spare space on the CF for the zip file.
BTW, this is my first post. I've been reading for a while, and love the digest, and my 5mx of course. I wouldn't consider any other PDA at the moment. I'd just be too frustrated by losing all the functionality I have!
- Neil
Wong Koi Hin wrote:
>I have transferred files successfully on 2 previous occasions from my PC to my D: CF through the following method: >
>1. remove CF card (formatted as FAT16) from Netbook and insert into Card reader (USB) which is hooked up to Windows 2000 Professional PC (FAT32). It now appears as E Drive >
>2. Open Windows Explorer on PC, copy file/s and paste into destination directory on E: Drive.
>
>3. Safe remove CF card and reinsert into Netbook. Files appear, everything working.
>
>However, last night when I attempted the same action, the files did get transferred over, however, strange files appeared as well, with impossible file sizes. Subsequent attempts to copy, move files from the PC to CF card results in the error message: the directory or drive you are accessing is corrupted or unreadable. >
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Date: 1 Apr 2003 23:05:50 +0000
From: Trygve Henriksen
Subject: netBook power...
Greetings!
Andrew Gregory wrote:
>Still on topic, I didn't mention my latest peeve! My recently purchased >netBook runs off 15V, which is obviously no good for vehicle 12V power >supplies. So while I have one adapter that can switch between my MC218, >digital camera, and AA-NiMH battery charger, I've got to get *another* >adapter just for the netBook!
1. I wouldn't trust those switchable 12V adapters for further than I can throw them.
Most of them have only a very basic surge protection or smoothing, so isn't fit to power delicate electronics with, particularly not in a car...
(At least not while the engine is running)
2. The netBook can draw up to 1.5A at 15V, which would probably be closer to 2A at 12V and 4A at 6V...
The more Amps you need to get out of a PSU the more robust (and expensive) the electronics must be.
Also, higher Amperage tracks on a circuit board needs to be wider unless you want them to turn brown and curl up...
(Read: uses more PCB area)
You need the max battery voltage + 'a bit' when rechargeing a battery.(The extra 'bit' is lost in the regulator) That extra is typically .6V or more,
The choice is to either convert a lower volatage(and increasing the input Amperage) or use a higher voltage without the conversion.
Guess which is the simplest/cheapest/most logical solution, and which Psion selected?
That's right; upping the voltage and simplifying the design.
(A 15V/1.5A wall wart is cheaper than a 6V/5A one)
They could have extended the recharge period, though, but...
This machine was built for the busy Execs and technicians.
How many of those would have bought it if it took 3Hours or even 6hours to recharge?
Why did they use such a high-voltage battery?
Possibly that the LCD backlight needs it. Since that would be the most power demanding part of the machine it's just logical to take that into account first, then add step-down converters for the rest.
(Just listen to the step-up regulator on a S5/S5mx when you turn on the backlight. There they based the power system on the rest of the machine because the backlight isn't used all the time)
On the same topic Mike wrote:
> Get an inverter for your vehicle. An inverter is a device that converts
> 12V to 120VAC (or 240VAC if you're a Euro) so you can plug in your
> light duty household devices like laptops.
Unless you have big batteries in your car you should be prepared to keep the engine running...
Those things have an atrocious efficiency rate.
I work at 'The County Roads Administration' here in Norway, and we have a few cars with a lot of electronics in them, and the first thing we did with them was to put in an extra 100AH battery with a diode network to make certain the inverter didn't drain the ordinary battery. (The same type of circuits that HIFI idiots puts in their cars)
:-)
Trygve
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