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Epoc Digest Wed, 09 Apr 2003 Volume 01 : Number 225
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In today's Epoc Digest 29 messages:
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- Re: MX5 Lid switch
- Faxing with a calling card
- RE: Mako / Revo back-up query
- Does AOL work with any of the Psion products
- Re: Mako / Revo back-up query
- Laws
- Unnecessary Heat
- Email on 5mx coming to a stop.
- ER6 printing
- Re: Digest numbers
- Re: COLOUR SCREEN TALK
- Re: C700
- Re: FAT directory rant...
- Re; MBook Report/The French/Backup
- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 224
- Catching up with CF postings
- GPRS Free on Vodafone via a psion?
- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 220 (6)
- Modem Speeds
- BCC problem
- Shannon Limit - Modem Speed
- Re: Jpeg HW decomp
- Daylight Savings Time/C700 Price
- Symbian Device P800
- Various responses
- Re: PC vs Mac file system
- Re: 5mx Lid Switch
- Re: Mako / Revo back-up query
- Re: COLOUR SCREEN TALK
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 15:51:14 +0100
From: "Ralf Eichler"
Subject: Re: MX5 Lid switch
On Mon, 7 Apr 2003 16:46:37 +0100, Epoc Digest wrote:
>My 5mx doesn't seem to know whether the lid is open or closed.
>Does anyone know whether it is possible to access the switch >that detects the lid position and how?
That was the same with my 5MX. I opened it with caution and found that the microswitch had come off the main board and was laying around inside the machine. I was lucky that the metal parts of the switch did nor short circuit anything else. With a good eye, a fine soldering tool, good light, half a burned finger and much luck I managed to re-solder it in place. You can see very well where its normal location is, but you definitely need some experience in soldering.
After that "operation" the switch works as needed. I did not need to disassembele the whole thing. Just take it apart until you can see the part of the motherboard where the switch is (or should be<g>). I even managed to do the soldering without disconnecting the display cables.
CU
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 16:16:23 +0100
From: "Woody B"
Subject: Faxing with a calling card
Live in the US and no longer have a long distance phone company, using instead the cheap calling cards you get from places like Costco. However trying to send a fax is a mess. The basic fax program I have on my PC does not have an option to enter calling card numbers, so I can't send an out of the area fax. Now that I'm the proud owner of an MBook with the fax/modem, wonder if the included fax program has the ability to accept 3 eleven digit numbers plus the required pauses between the numbers (for the mechanical voice to ask you to enter choices). I've just briefly looked at the manual and didn't see much info. Or is there a way to work around limitations?
FYI I ordered a 64MB CF with the MBook. Using the bench test program, this card is the fastest card I have. I have a 16X 64MB Ridata and a 20X 256MB Ridata and both have slower W&R speeds. The card says HTL and Singapore.
WoodyB
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 16:20:16 +0100
From: "Daniele Squarci"
Subject: RE: Mako / Revo back-up query
Reply to: John Morris
>I try to back up my Mako 3 or 4 times a week, and the back-ups normally take 60 to 90 seconds. Today it took 15 minutes, although I hadn't installed any new software >or added any more data than normal. Does anyone know why this might happen, and what problems it might indicate?
Is it the first time you backed up since the summer time change? I seem to remember that the PsiWin backup routine does a full backup twice a year when it detects a hour setting on the PC that is different from the one on the Psion.
Ciao
Daniele Squarci
Italy
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 18:42:39 +0100
From: RAllen1323
Subject: Does AOL work with any of the Psion products
I have AOL and cannot get my mNetbook to work at home on the wireless network. It works in the office with Explorere and I can dial out using the modem and Opera, but I can go on AOL. I have emailed Opera concering the issue but received no response. Is there anyway I can use AOL?
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 19:08:02 +0100
From: Kevin Collins
Subject: Re: Mako / Revo back-up query
Hi folks...
John Morris wrote (>):
>I try to back up my Mako 3 or 4 times a week, and the >back-ups normally take 60 to 90 seconds. Today it took >15 minutes, although I hadn't installed any new software >or added any more data than normal. Does anyone know why >this might happen, and what problems it might indicate?
John, if it was your first backup since you changed your time to Summertime, then no problems exist: there is a bug in PsiWin that insists on one making a full new backup after changing the hour.... I call it "the night of the long backups" :-)
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Regards,
Kevin [Cork, Ireland]
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 19:50:38 +0100
From: vlad arghir
Subject: Laws
> Epoc Digest wrote:
> the laws in the countries you named
Afaik jurisprudence in Germany has it that unless you put a disclaimer on your website you may be made liable for contents of sites linked to. I am not aware of any law that prohibits the exchange of links, only the content itself may be illegal. A thin rope, I'd say...
Just my 2c
best,
vlad a
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 20:04:05 +0100
From: Philip S. Adkins Potter
Subject: Unnecessary Heat
Hi,
About Antony's Post:
I was born an American (Ohio), am now a naturalized Briton and I also speak French, a little German, some Welsh, some Latin and bits of Italian. My antecedents are Pakistani, American, Scandinavian, Irish, Scots and (mostly) English. I have relatives in the USA, Canada, Hong Kong and Africa too. I have friends from Colombia, France, Germany, New Guinea, Belgium, Syria, Barbados, Spain, Jamaica, India, Holland, Nigeria, Australia, Russia, China, New Zealand, Poland, South Africa, the Philipines, Argentina, Peru and Japan. This is not an exclusive list.
If someone insults me (unintentionally or otherwise) to my face they show misplaced courage. I'll not react violently because they're only insulting me. If they insult someone else I'll protect them from (deserved?) repercussions as they need my protection.
But such stupidity deserves no further protection.
If someone is stupid enough to insult a whole nation (unintentionally or otherwise) then they really need the kind of protection I cannot give. People of every nationality have made mistakes, even the English. It is both kind and strong to forgive them and forget their transgressions.
So I forgive Antony, and I hope you all will.
Stephane, I agree with Ian and I can speak with even more authority as a naturalised Briton. I would never have considered becoming British if such was the national attitude. I'm proud of my adopted country, especially when I disagree with it - it lets me say so, just as France would.
This digest is (rightly) international. There are conflicts and differences that may affect some but the only differences relevant here are those relating to our computers, mostly Psion. Heat in this area is reasonable, even necessary to debate.
No other heat is.
Phil.
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 20:44:12 +0100
From: "Stephane Sage"
Subject: Email on 5mx coming to a stop.
Hello to all
Ever since I have been trying to use Email, it would block itself after a while, forcing me to "kill" the app. (I always use the PC to communicate with EpocDigest...). Sometimes I succeed in getting mails through, sometimes not. Has anybody encountered the problem and found the solution ?
Thanks for yr help.
Stephane (Grenoble, France).
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 21:15:56 +0100
From: Kevin Thorne
Subject: ER6 printing
Has anyone actually tried printing directly from a Nokia 9210 to an IR equipped printer? The results I get from my Canon BJ-10 are fairly poor when I select "Canon BJ Bubblejet" to say the least. It reminds me of printing from my ER5 S5mx before I installed Andrew Johnson's driver updates. Also, if I try to print out anything within the messaging application I get an error message:
Application: Mail editor
Reason code: E32USER-CBase
Reason number: 21
Can anyone tell me how I can fix this problem?
Sent to you from a Nokia 9210 Communicator
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 21:17:11 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Digest numbers
Dear Itamar,
<< The interesting thing about the digest is that although the Psions are not being sold anymore but for the netBook and netPad the membership of the digest is still slowly growing >>
Which isn't strange when you consider that regular sources of Psion/EPOC related information are drying up.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 21:18:33 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: COLOUR SCREEN TALK
Dear Antony,
<< It was pointed out that the motherboard would have to be shrunk to accomodate additional features such as an Li-ion battery, USB interface etc. I believe that there are components within a 5mx that could be replaced to accomodate these, such as a smart media slot rather than a bulky CF slot >>
People here have asked for the addition of a PC-Card (PCMCIA) slot - not the removal of the CF card slot, nor the removal of the RS232C interface.
<< Even more up-to-date chips will not only increase performance, but may also reduce power requirements to compensate for the colour screen >>
No new chip-set has ever compensated for the change from a greyscale LCD panel to a colour one. All mobile computers, be they handhelds or laptops, had to compensate by increasing battery capacity.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 21:19:54 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: C700
Dear Koi Hin,
<< Not quite the whole story. The comparison was made in the context of a successor to the Revo >>
One of the smaller laptops, like the Sony model mentioned, can be as much a sucessor to a Psion Revo as the Sharp C700.
<< Thank you for helping me make my point. Peter's comments were addressed at the people on this list. So as with your statement above, Jim's comments about compatibility is not a overriding factor >>
That's where you're making the mistake. That this is the EPOC Digest, populated by people who don't use a Microsoft operating system and applications on their handheld computer, doesn't say that much on the importance of compatibility with Microsoft's desktop applications. You don't know, for example, how many of us don't use their Psion for certain jobs because of the limited compatibility.
<< How would this be construed as OS snobbishness? >>
Quite simple. With a sentence like "I suspect they would take the Symbian OS any day over 100% MS compatibility if it means using MS OSes" you're placing the operating system before anything else. Combine this with a string of negative value judgements on Microsoft's operating systems and we're back at the semi-religious operating system wars of old. The wars between the MacOS Cult, the Linux Order and the Windows Fellowship.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 21:21:16 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: FAT directory rant...
Dear Trygve,
<< Want to know something even worse? The FAT system was nicked from CP/M.... Now, who should we blame? M$ for the cludgework, or IBM who actually paid for it? >>
It's a bit silly to blame a decision that was made donkeys years ago when the humble floppy disk was an 8 inch one storing 80 kByte and hard disks were only available for the big iron computers. FAT was simple and worked well. It's the success of the IBM PC that has given us a few side-effects, like FAT still being with us for compatibility reasons.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 21:33:52 +0100
From: Keith Giles
Subject: Re; MBook Report/The French/Backup
Koi Hin wrote:
> I would like to suggest exchanging for a new card.
I don't think it's the card. I deleted everything except a couple of Data files on the 256MB SanDisk CF card, put it back into the MBook and all went well. I've been fiddling with it so much that the battery icon is now red and I get a "recharge battery" message. So it's sitting on my shelf until I get the US AC/DC problem sorted
out and can recharge the battery.
Owen Morgan wrote:
> This is just a shot in the dark, but did you perchance install the > Mako version of ChaDis?
No I didn't. Are you suggesting that might have been the culprit? Another forum (PDA Street) response gave me a link to a Google form (comp.sys.psion.(either apps or misc, can't remember) posting which hinted that NoMore was the cause of a "somewhat" similar event. I did install NoMore. I could be wrong, but I *think* I may have been messing about with NoMore just before all this happened.
Re: The French. Ian Chapple wrote:
> Please understand that not all Englishmen feel the same way...
Nor, in spite of that stupid "freedom frys" routine, do all Americans!
Re: Backup. John Morris asks:
> Does anyone know why this might happen, and what problems it might
> indicate?
It's the biannual celebration of Daylight Savings Time. The first
time you backup after a time change, and you have PsiWin's backup
set to synchronize your PC and Psion clocks, all your Psion's files have a new time, so your PC says, "*Everything* has changed, so I
must backup the entire shooting match."
Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/
Thought For The Day: Don't ever stand up to be counted or someone
will take your seat.
All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 23:46:45 +0100
From: Mark DEPPE
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 224
<<<Kevin Thorne I'm thinking of getting a spare unit for the same reasons as you. Does anyone know how much these replacement units cost? Also, how long are these units supposed to last?>>> I saw some advertised via a google mail I subscribe to but can't remember who now but sure it can be found via a search (sorry I deleted the add) I think they were £80 - I am not definite but I think it was the same place as the cheap UK netbooks were being sold from that was posted on the digest recently it might have been foxpop or similar, sorry I can't be more specific. As regards the shelf life I think it is a long time like several years. I brought one on sale in heelas (they were having a mega cheap clear out of psion stuff) which had been on the shelf for a few years and it works perfectly.
Kind regards
Mark
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 23:46:53 +0100
From: Mark DEPPE
Subject: Catching up with CF postings
I just got round to reading the backlog of epocdigest I had stored after 2 weeks abroad and a house move in January and came across this reply to me from Rolf which is very interesting and relevant to the other postings from Vlad and others around Mac troubles with CF readers. Sorry for not replying earlier Rolf thanks for your reply (amazing how difficult it is to catch up with mail when one has been away, I was about to give up and delete them as I thought I would never get round to it and they would no longer be relevant):
<<<Date: 12 Jan 2003 21:33:26 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: CF reader and Macintosh
Dear Mark,
<< Yes never copy system folder files from the psion to the CF... >>
There's no problem in copying system file to CF card as long as you know what you're doing. When you want to have a safety copy of the C drive contents it's best to copy to a directory so that OPX files are not in the \System\OPX search path but in (say) \Backup_C\System\OPX.
<< I have tried 6 different CF card and 2 readers and they always do weird things to the CF cards >>
I see that you refer to a Macintosh. Don't know how it is with the latest versions of Mac OS and OS X, but I needed to mount non-Mac diskettes as PC diskettes when I worked with Macs quite some time ago. Doesn't the same apply to CF cards as they use the same FAT storage format as PCs? What you describe looks as if the Mac treats the CF card as Mac format.
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Have read the excellent section on CF cards on Martins site and I think that it was saying the mac uses the same FAT as a psion. Since moving house and work I no longer use a mac so can not test the idea of copying the opx files into a directory which is not in the root C/system of the flash to see if that solves the problem maybe Vlad can try, but I have a suspicion that I got corrupt disks without copying any of the C:/ system files but can not be sure and have no means of testing it now. Other suggestions I have heard included long file names, but again I never managed to test this.
Kind regards
Mark
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 23:47:05 +0100
From: Mark DEPPE
Subject: GPRS Free on Vodafone via a psion?
I recently discovered that although all my GPRS Internet / email is charged for, GPRS on my phone using the wap browser is free except for downloads. So I set about trying to get psion wap brouser to work with GPRS on the same settings. For some reason I can't - maybe this is some deliberate fixing by vodafone so you can only use the phone I don't know - get it to work, not sure if this is because it some how connects a different way not using *99#. I can get it to work - WAP on the psion wap brouser with the phone - using my usual GSM dial up but then I am charged for it or it comes out of my included minutes using +447836900808, ip 212.183.137.12. and of course it is not as fast as the GPRS. Is there anyone out there managing to surf wap from the psion using the settings (APN not sure what this is but I might have got this wrong) on the phone using GPRS?
Kind regards
Mark
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Date: 7 Apr 2003 23:49:08 +0100
From: Jaan Sass
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 220 (6)
Personally I have never had trouble syncing My Diamond Mako and Psion 7 to outlook or Novell. I prefer my Psion 7 which I use for word processing, keeping track of my credit cards, games, internet and email, and as a ebook reader. Personally I would never go back to a revo know that I am using a Psion 7 and will probably buy a Psion netbook and maybe down the road even a netpad though I doubt it I love the keyboard idea. My question is how would anyone use a psion 5mx or revo when the 7 and netbook exist. I carry my Psion 7 everywhere even into the bathroom to read. The keyboard, color and programs work for me. It has a simple operating system and plethora of fun usable programs. I personally do not need anything fancier and dislike pocketpc's and palms. I do not consider the Psion 7 bulky but enjoy using it in my car, bathroom to read, and anywhere I am or go.
>And you're preaching to what you believe to be the truth. If there was this
>huge pool of people who wanted to have a Psion then Psion would still be
>producing the Revo. Many people have given up on their Psion's because they
>can't reliably sync to any desktop PIM. I don't know what you do for a
>living but being able to keep my schedule up in Outlook is important to me
>being able to keep my job. Also, remember that the "crowd" here is ~700
>people, hardly a representative sample of what the world wants, let alone
>what the average Psion owner wants.
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Date: 8 Apr 2003 03:27:01 +0100
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: Modem Speeds
>Date: 5 Apr 2003 09:08:26 +0000
>From: Owen Morgan
>Subject: Re: A Question on Modems
>
>Howdy!
>
>Because it's now the phone line that is the bottleneck. The developers have = >pretty much reached the maximum of what is possible on a normal phone line. = >
>Owen
Owen,
Many thanks for the input. Now that you mention it, the current phones mostly have a hard time handling the designed data throughput of the current 56k modems.
Gary
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Date: 8 Apr 2003 03:40:17 +0100
From: Jim Watson~Gove
Subject: BCC problem
Itamar,
<<Tick the position "set as default account".>>
That was the problem. I was bringing up the "Open Mailbox" screen and electing mailbox there, then selecting ISP hen the "Connect to Internet" screen came up.
It's working fine now, now that I'm ticking default.
Put me on the list of those wishing o serve on the EPOC team when a position comes open.
Now to set up my main machine with C$erve as an ISP.
jim - pot townsend
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Date: 8 Apr 2003 04:47:14 +0100
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: Shannon Limit - Modem Speed
>Date: 5 Apr 2003 11:40:44 +0000
>From: Rolf Brunsting >Subject: Re: A Question on Modems
>
>Dear Gary,
>
And 56 kbps is extremely close to the Shannon Limit for = >the plain old telephone system.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands
Rolf,
Thanks a lot. Did not know there was such a study done by this person Shannon.
Gary
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Date: 8 Apr 2003 05:26:42 +0100
From: Andrew Gregory
Subject: Re: Jpeg HW decomp
Dear Rolf,
>> < For a 'colour 5mx' to be used as a photo album, the memory >> requirements for display would be just 640x240x2 for 16-bit colour, or >> 300K. However, most photos would actually display at 320x240 so you just >> need 150K. >>
>
> Which is fine when you want to have a set of thumbnail-like images of
> your photos. I already have this function on my camera, however. What
> I'd like to use the Psion for is, indeed, to zoom in and out, pan from
> one side to another, look at the details of my photos, and select the
> ones I like to keep.
It sounds more like you need to upgrade your camera to one that lets you do exactly that on the camera.
>> << ... the smart program still would only keep the data actually needed >> for display and re-decompress on demand >>
>
> Which is that user-friendly in practice. Say that you want to have a look > at another section of the picture. You scroll to that section, which you
> have to do blind, wait till the application has decompressed the section > ... then to find you've scrolled too far. Hardware assisted decompression > helps as it allows the sections to be decompressed on the fly as you
> scroll. Besides, I don't think that photos will be only thing people like > to display. I'm also thinking about movie clips which can do with some
> hardware assistance.
I was talking from my experience with a mapping program on the PC. The maps are usually huge - bigger than most digital photos. When I click and drag
on the map to move it about, the software does not fill in exposed areas until I 'let go'. Yes, that does mean that during the drag large areas of the screen will be blank, but it seems to work OK in practice.
I should also point out that is it not necessary to fully decompress the entire JPEG when you only want to display a portion of it. There's two compression methods: the slow DCT algorithm that operates on each 8x8 pixel square, and the Huffman algorithm that operates on the processed DCT data. Huffman decompression is very fast, probably faster than the I/O used to read it! You can zip through the JPEG to the bit you want to display and *then* start the slow DCT decompression for the visible bits.
Since you brought it up, movies *do* benefit from hardware decompression. Waiting a second or so for a still image to pop up is acceptable, but not when you're trying to do 15+ frames per second! Assuming hardware decompression was implemented to assist in movie display, of course that should be used to speed up still image decompression (and MP3s if possible) !
However, I consider the idea of viewing movies on a PDA to simply be marketing hype of the order of "my dick's bigger than yours" :-) If viewing movies was so popular, we'd all have those portable LCD TVs or portable VCR/DVD players? While I regularly see people with packets of photos, and walkmans (i.e. still images and music), I just don't see people with portable movies. Movies are big-time-visual. The same reasons people don't buy 12" monitors anymore, and buy widescreen TVs is because the bigger displays are best for visual information. A tiny PDA screen is in
completely the opposite direction!
If the 'new 5mx' were to have a ~200MHz CPU like the netBook, that's *plenty* fast enough for JPEG and MP3 decompression. No need to waste time, money, effort and space on hardware decompression support. Leave the movies where they belong - on the home theatre.
Regards,
--
Andrew Gregory,
<URL:http://www.scsoftware.com.au/family/andrew/>
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Date: 8 Apr 2003 06:07:34 +0100
From: "Jim Cooke"
Subject: Daylight Savings Time/C700 Price
> Date: 7 Apr 2003 13:43:06 +0100
> To: "John Morris"
> Subject: Mako / Revo back-up query
>
> I try to back up my Mako 3 or 4 times a week, and the
> back-ups normally take 60 to 90 seconds. Today it took 15
> minutes, although I hadn't installed any new software or
> added any more data than normal. Does anyone know why this
> might happen, and what problems it might indicate? Thanks John Morris
>
Yes, it's because of the switch to daylight savings time. Psiwin shows all
files with a last backup time that's one hour earlier than the present time
so it backs up everything. The way to prevent this is to first change the
time on your Psion, connect your Psion to your PC, open the drives, log off
PsiWin, and then do your backup. This gets the file times back in sync. If
you just go right to backup, all the files get backed up, which is why it
took so long.
Regards, Jim
> Date: 7 Apr 2003 14:59:00 +0100
> To: Itamar Engelsman
> Subject: BCC Problem on C$erve Classsic, embedded sheet in
> word, C700, Charging S7,
> re. C700 - Sorry but I forgot. What is the price comparison
> with the REVO and/or 5MX ?
Itamar,
The price listed by Dynamism is $700 compared to a new Psion from Psion USA
at $335 and a Mako/Revo which is generally available over here for about
$100. Without wanting to start another dustup, I noticed on the Dynamism
site that not only haven't they completed the English localization but
there's no sync available for Outlook -"they're working on it". They only
accept returns for five days after you receive the unit from Japan and
charge a 15% restocking fee. The only warranty is provided by Dynamism for
one year and involves shipping your unit back to Japan for repairs. It also
states that Sharp will provide no technical support for these Dynamism units
and all requests for technical support have to be directed to Dynamism. It
is also touted as having 32 mb of RAM but 18 mb is devoted to the OS leaving
you with 14 mb of user RAM, which is about 1 mb less the Psion has
available. With just the word processor, spreadsheet, and mail app open (no
files, mind you, just the apps) there's only 10 mb free. It also has no Mac
G4 connectivity at all although "they are working on it". With my Mako,
having Word, Sheet, and the Mail apps open shows 14.7 mb of RAM available.
Also, for those of you looking for Wi-Fi and 802.11 connectivity, using this
will drain the c700 battery in 20 to 30 minutes. There's more information at
http://avi.freedman.net/zaurus/slc700.html
I think I'll wait a while on this one.
Regards, Jim
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Date: 8 Apr 2003 09:02:45 +0100
From: "Daniel Meyer"
Subject: Symbian Device P800
Hello again,
I am thinking of replacing my wife's Revo with a P800. Her Revo is becoming less and less useful; the more I use it to synchronize with Outlook the more corrupt the data in Outlook becomes. Even when I delete the diary and contacts from the Revo it still manages to change the data on the PC.
Does anyone have experience of using a P800 synchronizing with Outlook? How well does it work? My T68i synchronizes perfectly.
Thanks,
Daniel
Daniel Meyer
Twickenham UK
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Date: 8 Apr 2003 14:17:12 +0100
From: Antony
Subject: Various responses
To: Owen Morgan
In response to: -
>No way! That would dump a lot of 5mx users like me who have invested in large CF cards. Not only ...> (EPOC DIGEST V1 # 224 Title: Re: COLOUR SCREEN TALK)
Please do not misunderstand me regarding the replacement of parts. I was not stating that replacing some of the parts would be preferable, however, doing so could provide additional room to accomodate more advanced facilities. I understand that people will already have other equipment that utilises the existing connectivity features and would be reluctant to replace a 5mx that does not have these, but I suspect others would prefer the benefits of other technologies. As far as the Bluetooth/Wifi statement; I understand the difference between bluetooth connectivity and WiFi networking. I was simply expressing a personal preference for a WiFi feature rather than Bluetooth.
To: Stephane Sage
In response to: -
>Just as a matter of curiosity, I should very much like, as a Frenchman (otherwise known as "frog-eater"), what exactly you mean (doesn't sound very kind, according to my brand new Collins Dic...) with:
"it's a moot point because it is more likely that a Frenchman will grow a spine before Psion update the 5mx with a colour screen"<
I thought the point was clear, but I understand it may not translate well so I shall rephrase it. I was implying that the French are spineless and/or cowardly. I hope this clears the matter up :-)
To: Ian Chapple
In response to: -
> Unfortunately, this was a somewhat pathetic attempt at humour, and yes, you're right, it was not meant to be flattering. Please understand that not all Englishmen feel the same way...
<
It was not an attempt at humour, simply an insult and I never stated that all Englishmen or anyone else feel the same way
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Date: 8 Apr 2003 18:04:39 +0100
From: Mike Alexander
Subject: Re: PC vs Mac file system
--On 6 Apr 2003 17:03:04 +0100 vlad arghir wrote:
> Mac data will have a data and Finder fork in OS up to 9.x.
> OSX is Unix-based.
The forks are called "data" and "resource" and they exist in Mac OS X also unless you've formatted your disk as a UFS disk (which Apple does not recommend for normal users).
> There is no problem I am aware of in data-exchange. The Mac will read any > format and format any media. Imo you'd better format your HD w. the Win
> default (whether on the Mac or the IBM-compatible).
Macs read most disk formats, but not all. For example, I don't think a Mac will read an NTFS formatted disk from Windows NT/2000/XP without extra software (although I haven't tried this and could be wrong), but then neither will a Psion.
Mike Alexander
Ann Arbor, MI
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Date: 8 Apr 2003 22:16:05 +0100
From: Owen Morgan
Subject: Re: 5mx Lid Switch
Howdy!
Bob Cousins wrote (> ):
> My 5mx doesn't seem to know whether the lid is
> open or closed. Does anyone know whether it is
> possible to access the switch that detects the lid
> position and how?
This is a known problem and it's usually the soldering where the switch is attached to the motherboard that has failed. In some cases only one side of the switch is loose, in other cases the switch will be rattling about inside the Psion.
You need to open up the Psion and resolder the switch. I've successfully repaired this on a 5 Classic and a MC218. Your 5mx will be the same. You need a small philips screwdriver, a soldering iron with a very thin tip, some thin electronic solder and some courage.
I believe there are a couple of web sites that deal with dismantling the 5mx. I don't have access to the web, so can't give you any URL's, but I'm sure someone else will chip in.
Try to avoid disconnecting the screen cable from the motherboard as this contact can be difficult to re-connect.
(Rolf Brunsting said a while ago that the screen cable is soldered both to the screen and the motherboard, but this is wrong. It is soldered to the screen and plugged in to the motherboard and the plug that is used on the motherboard is small enough that a similar one could have been used on the screen.)
Owen
Thought for the day:
Compromise: The fine art of making sure that nobody gets what they really want.
--
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Date: 8 Apr 2003 22:16:17 +0100
From: Owen Morgan
Subject: Re: Mako / Revo back-up query
Howdy!
John Morris wrote (> ):
> I try to back up my Mako 3 or 4 times a week, and
> the back-ups normally take 60 to 90 seconds. Today
> it took 15 minutes, although I hadn't installed
> any new software or added any more data than
> normal. Does anyone know why this might happen,
> and what problems it might indicate?
Was this your first backup after the change to daylight savings time? There's a bug (or feature... :o) in PsiWin that causes a full backup when the daylight savings setting is changed. I suppose it may not be a bad thing to force a full backup twice a year.
Owen
Thought for the day:
In software systems it is often the early bird that makes the worm.
--
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Dublin City Moorings
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Date: 8 Apr 2003 23:11:24 +0100
From: Alan Morris
Subject: Re: COLOUR SCREEN TALK
Antony wrote:-
<< I believe that there are components within a 5mx that could be replaced to accomodate these, such as a smart media slot rather than a bulky CF slot. Completely remove the serial interface and chipset, externally attach the Stylus, make it Bluetooth or better yet, WiFi >>
I reckon that most would want to keep the CF slot, even suggesting that it become a Type II. I've got 7 solid state (with 2 more on order) and an IBM 1Gb hard drive.
The serial port is also most important, I would even like a second serial port (as built into the OS).
An external stylus would be a nuisance - it would get damaged and/or lost.
I keep seeing reference to WiFi - what is it?
<< The improvements that could be made could be accomodated by removing what would be the redundant parts of the existing design >>
I would not buy 'your' new design because I make use of your reundant parts.
--
Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion 7 & Nokia 6210e
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