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Epoc Digest Wed, 23 Apr 2003 Volume 01 : Number 235

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In today's Epoc Digest 23 messages:

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- on/off problems with Nokia 6210

- Re: ABP on SonyEricsson P800

- New 5mx pros

- Re: Contacts versus Data

- Re: Java Progs

- Re: SpellX (# 233)

- RE: Moving from S5 to S5MX

- Re: Cut and paste ProgramS

- New Macros

- Re: Baking files to your CF --- Overcooking new macros

- Re: Sorting Data

- Public? / New 5mx / Kiwis

- Restart, Powerbase help file, tip, Sheet help

- SonyEricsson MP3 player (HPM-10)

- Re: Cut and paste program

- Re: Sorting Data

- Sorting Data Files

- Re: Sharp Slc -700 on sale now at Pulster.de :)

- Infra Red

- Where to install apps?

- To recharge or not to recharge, (that is the question)

- nokia6100 gprs settings # 232 (3)

- Re: Sorting Data (4 Tim); Moving from S5 to S5MX (4 Gilles)

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 21:44:08 -0500

From: "John Morris"

Subject: on/off problems with Nokia 6210

Andy Hayes wrote:-

I too used to have this problem with my 6210e (Orange version of 6210i) - the cause was a loose-fitting battery. The fix is to stick a small band of soft plastic on the inside of the battery case, which stops the battery from moving about. My "repair" was effected by Rob Gates of R. Gates Communications in Burwell Cambs (+44(0)1638742203) for anyone in the UK who wants the fix.

Happy Cycling

John Morris

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Date: 21 Apr 2003 22:01:15 -0500

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: ABP on SonyEricsson P800

Dear Sergio,

<< Have a look at: http://www.freepoc.org/index.htm. Malcolm Bryant, author of the Exellent ABP for ER5, also made a Java (scaled down) version that runs on the P800. >>

Thanks for the information.

<< PS: thanks for posting your first impressions about the P800, I'm looking forward for reading the next chapter ;-) >>

I've been working in stages. The first one was to get agenda and contacts transferred, the second to get the P800 linked up to my home PC, the third to get e-mail and Web up and running and the fourth to look for additional tools. I'm now at a point that I can report on my experiences with stages two and three which I'll post on the Digest in a few days.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 07:43:49 -0500

From: Max Ozinsky

Subject: New 5mx pros

Die-hard Psionistas

Philip Carlisle wrote about new 5mx and Revos for sale in Madrid. I noticed in a South African newspaper (Mail & Guardian) about 2 weeks ago that the Psion agent in SA, Psionet, are advertising new English 5mx pros for sale. There was not a price given for them. Perhaps Dave, who sometimes reads this list can comment on this and where they were sourced from? Otherwise he can be

contacted

Regards from Cape Town in a non-racist, non-sexist South

Africa.

Max

***************

Max Ozinsky

Cape Town

South Africa

<+27 +82 414-7147

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 08:17:12 -0500

From: "Marcus von Cube"

Subject: Re: Contacts versus Data

Itamar,

>CONTACTS database - Basically the contacts database will synchronise the email addresses with the email program, but otherwise IMHO there is no advantage in using it above the DATA program.

This is not quite correct, if you have ohter devices which speak the IrOBEX protocol for vCard exchange. Contacts can easyly read and create vCard records in a file or via IRDA and

exchange the information with Palms, Phones, ...

But I agree on the other points you mention (multiple files, searching, ...)

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 09:02:06 -0500

From: "Marcus von Cube"

Subject: Re: Java Progs

Andy,

>It would be interesting to have an idiots guide on how to run some of the java apps that are available for the Psion. I think that they run under eshell.exe, but that is where my guesswork ends. It will all be too obvious to you Marcus, but us mere mortals may need some help <BG>

Java apps can be started in several ways on the Psion:

1.) Use ESHELL.EXE and type in "java -cp <classpath> MyClass <any args>".

2.) Tap on the .class file. This is only suitable, if the program is a really simple app with no command line args or funny classpath settings. Some apps come with a "starter" class that sets

up the environment for the big application and starts it.

3.) Create an EPOC application from the java app. This involves an .aif and an .app file with caption and icon for the Extras bar, a .txt file with the command line to java.exe, and of course the java app itself as a bunch of classes or a jar file.

(1) and (2) can be made easier: You can put class files and jars in special directories (?:\System\java\classes, ?:\System\java\ext) so that they can be accessed from java.exe

without setting the classpath. This is useful for command line utilities and shared Java libraries.

Creating a (dummy) file named C:\System\java\console lets every java program writing to

System.out or System.err open a console window. This is mostly meant for debugging or

commad line stuff. Without the dummy file, nothing is printed out, only GUI components are visible.

Coming back to LPR (and to a second project, an SMTP proxy which will allow access to mail

servers with SMTP authentication from the standard Email application). These will come in a SIS file and will follow option (3) outlined above. Be patient...

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 09:25:40 -0500

From: "ExAbEtAl"

Subject: Re: SpellX (# 233)

>>>>>>

From: Tim Williams

Subject: SpellX

On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 06:40 AM, Epoc Digest wrote:

> Re. SpellX - I use an old macro called Switchdico to switch between > different language spellcheckers. I received the French, Dutch and > German files from other users. How does SpellX work, where did you get > the files and where can you get the program ?

SpellX is much, much cleaner than SwitchDico.

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Hi All,

Thanks for the praise Tim. SpellX is freeware and can be found at my website. When after carefully reading the SpellX page you still have problems locating the Spell language versions (Italian, French, Spanish, Dutch, UK English, US English, German), contact me privately via my website.

Huub

___________________________________

Huub Linthorshttp://website.leidenuniv.nl/~linthorsthjm/exabetal/

ExAb, CodeSafe, S5mboles, SpellX and more

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 10:48:40 -0500

From: "Liebmann, Karsten (KL)"

Subject: RE: Moving from S5 to S5MX

Hi Gilles,

I also have moved from the 5 to the 5mx and have the 5 now as a backup machine.

I still use the "Data" application, as I had four data files and was too lazy to move everything over to contacts. Also, I have heard some comments that were not too enthusiastic about the "Contacts" application. It probably will be of benefit if you work with the Contacts in Outlook and want to synchronize back and forth. There was a conversion utility around that would allow to transfer data from "Data" to "Contacts" (http://user.itl.net/~nijel/Psion5/Psion5ConvertData.htm).

As said, I stayed with "Data". The only really disturbing thing was the need to open the "Extras" menu to get to the data files. I fixed that by changing the shell.ini with the "RMRText" editor, following the instructions from Alan in Digest #012 (09-Jun-02).

You could merge your data files - look in File/More/Merge in ... in the data application. It must have had a reason that you kept them separate?

I your PS you ask for file structures for conversion purposes. All files I had transferred without problems from the 5 to the 5mx. So, there was no need to convert anything. I seem to remember the OPL programmers reference book containing this kind of information?

Greetings

Karsten.

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 12:27:17 -0500

From: "***"

Subject: Re: Cut and paste ProgramS

To: Aleck Cartwright Subject: Cut and paste Program >>>.........where to get a similar application for my psion. I do a lot of research and this sort of application is a real timesaver<<<<<

Klip app from palmanac.co.uk

ClipBook opo fClipText opo or app

Multicopy.opo from Pascal Goubier

Cocopapa (Strg+c/v/x) from Stefan Denk

ExAb from Huub Linthorst

...and others

HTH

Jack

"Messaging X Epoc Email liberates from (anti)virii, worms, horses..."

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 14:00:47 -0500

From: "Sergio"

Subject: New Macros

Dear friends

Just a little note to let you know that MyStartup for Macro5 v1.00 is ready to be downloaded from:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bridge/1492/

I also updated Scroller to v1.11 (minor fixes and a new shortcut)

MyStartup is a small macro designed to be set as a "macro at switch on"

in Macro5; when you turn your Epoc ER5 device on the first time in the

day, MyStartup can show a user defined wallpaper (also play a sound, if

you like), then a window with your owner information, the time and a battery gauge; you hit a key and you're back to the system screen, or

you can define a file to be automatically launched (e.g. your Agenda file); you can also set a maximum of 10 files to be checked and, if needed (if they have been modified from the previous backup), baked-up to any user defined folder (better to a CF Card, to save them in case of any unlucky loss of power etc.)

Let me know ;-)

Ciao

Sergio

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 14:28:02 -0500

From: "Sergio"

Subject: Re: Baking files to your CF --- Overcooking new macros

I have a gas oven so what gas mark should I set to bake my files to a CF? I wouldn't want to overcook them. (Sorry Sergio, I really couldn't resist your typo error!)

Ops...

And I've just sent a new message to the Digest with the same mistake....

And I also have to correct the "overcooking" problem on my web site....

And maybe I also have to refresh my English ;-)))

Ciao & Thanks!

Sergio

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 14:32:31 -0500

From: "Sergio"

Subject: Re: Sorting Data

Hi Jim!

I have set up a database with 345 records. I created a "sort by:" field and sort the database on this field, A-Z (to force it to order by last name regardless of how the record is configured)..

The records are grouped by first letter, all "a"s first, "b"s second, etc. after sorting the database.

The problem is that within the groupings, the sort seems to be random; "Ann", "Amico", Ainsworth", "Arzan", "Anibal", etc.

Am I doing something wrong? Is it a known bug?

Open you Data file, then "menu" - "tools" - "change labels"

Choose the label you want to use, then "Edit" - "Options" and here we are: change the number of characters to use when sorting the entries...

Ciao

Sergio

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 15:27:13 -0500

From: "Rick Gillyon"

Subject: Public? / New 5mx / Kiwis

> From: "Ian Chapple"

> company put their latest quarterly figures on their

> webserver, but didn't announce them to the press and didn't

> put a link to the file on their website.

...

> The company says he hacked

> their web server, as the information was not public

> From: Itamar Engelsman

> http://www.mobile2day.de/news/news_details.html?nd_ref=1603

The original URL, more readable to us Limeys, is:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8883

> From: Eric Lindsay

> Us Aussies probably won't care if you did insult New

> Zealanders (The kiwi is a flightless bird found only in New

> Zealand.)

Right...it looks like my "humour" fell on stony ground. I was hoping to wind up a few of you Aussies *by* referring to you as Kiwis. Ah well.

Bye,

Rick Gillyon

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 16:03:24 -0500

From: Will Green

Subject: Restart, Powerbase help file, tip, Sheet help

Dear all,

If your a Shropshire lad as I am, the standard greeting to another is as follows;

"How you doin"?

and the correct response should be;

"Not to baaaaaaaad".

This little opening gambit should see you well and pass you as one of us in any Shropshire pub.

I only point this out as I'm in search of opening line better than 'Dear all' and try to compete with 'Howde', but I think I'm going to fail hopelessly!

So;

How you doin?

-------Restart, response to Itamar------

Actually, "on the list of applications running, highlighting a program and pressing Ctrl+Shift-E lets you kill the program."*

No need to go to System screen to get to the .app file for the program. So there!

But I take your point, killing applications isn't a good example of Restart's usage. Perhaps a better one would be when Psiwin doesn't pick up Psion and only a soft restart will do?

------Powerbase help file, response to Andy-------

"Your Powerbase file is a work of genius".

I blush with modesty!

It is a bit ruff at the edges in some places (eg. printing an Invoice doesn't always match the screen), but I think a help file on it is a great idea.

In the creation of it, it will also help me think through some of the weak areas in the database.

I'll post to the digest when the help file is finished, and the first revision of the database complete.

-----Cunning tip-------

This tip isn't mine, I picked it up somewhere while playing on internet, can't remember where though.

*Stolen from the same tip sheet.

"Ever noticed that the only way to cancel an alarm on your Psion once it's gone off is manual intervention (i.e. press the 'Cancel' option)? Wouldn't it be handy if you could set alarms so that they only ever sounded once - and didn't repeat for ever... Well you can:- The solution is to set the alarm you want to hear as per normal. Then set a second SILENT alarm for 1 minute (or whenever) after the 1st alarm has sounded - it will cancel the sound of the first alarm (at least until you next get around to pressing the cancel key)."

------Sheet help------

I'd really like to get to grips with Sheet.

Other than a few standard sums and basic calculation commands, thats my lot.

I want a go at LOOKUPS, RADIONS, & all the other functions that I really haven't a clue what they mean and how to use them.

I been feeling for some time that this is a really (forgive me) 'powerful' feature in ER5 that I'm missing out on!

Any one know of a tutorial on a web set or something similar?

Psionara,

Will.

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 16:28:27 -0500

From: Ricardo

Subject: SonyEricsson MP3 player (HPM-10)

It sorta complements my 20Gb Archos. (Fantastic bit of kit - if anyone has one, and doesn’t have the freeware Rockbox o/s, go here: http://rockbox.haxx.se/ ) This improves it a thousand times. (Seriously.)

A 128mb Multi Media Card brings the capacity right up, although that will costs about £70UK from Ebay. (I can’t remember how much I paid, but it was much cheaper than the shops.)

You may need to get the latest flash software upgrade from an approved SonyEricsson supplier (eg some Carphone Warehouses in the UK) In the first year of ownership, this is free. After that it’s £30UK, I think.

It also comes with a PC parallel (printer) MMC reader. Works very well.

It’s teeny-weeny.

Using it in the E drive bay of a NetBook or S7 with a PC card adaptor looks like a gooooood idea.

My two bitches are:

1) It loses the connection WAY TOO EASILY! With hindsight (and just because of this) I wouldn’t buy one – It can be playing and if the contacts are at all dirty the slightest bit of pressure can cause it to disconnect. This is an almost crippling design flaw. I’m not the only person to report this, but equally it’s not a 100% universal complaint.

Also:

2) You can’t do anything else while using the phone. (Sort through phone lists, play solitaire/battleships etc.)

Note: Previous software versions allowed you to do other stuff on the phone while listening to mp3s. The latest version that I got on my phone blocked this capability for no reason. This is a real pain, and it looks like a SonyEricsson decision that makes NO sense…. Petty dominating *bar-stewards*!

In conclusion – it’s brilliant apart from the flakey (unreliable) connection. If you want it to be portable and usable you need to have pockets in which it will receive no jolting. (Loose shirt pocket would prob be OK.)

Apologies that this offtopic, but hopefully it will appeal to the techy geek in all of us!

Richard

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 16:40:12 -0500

From: Daniele Squarci

Subject: Re: Cut and paste program

From: Aleck Cartwright

>> I used to have a shareware program on my 5mx that enabled me to cut and paste multiple portions of text, like a multiclipboard. I found it very useful, but it expired and I would love to download it again and register it. I deletedit off my machine and now can't remember the name of it anymore.<<

Maybe you are thinking of MagicKeys? www.fatcatz.net

Ciao

Daniele Squarci

Italy

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 16:48:29 -0500

From: "Michael Degn"

Subject: Re: Sorting Data

Answer to Jim Watson~Gove

Subject: Sorting Data

> The problem is that within the groupings, the sort seems to be random; "Ann", "Amico", Ainsworth", "Arzan", "Anibal", etc.

Am I doing something wrong? Is it a known bug? <

Hi Jim,

This is not a bug, you just need to tell your Psion to sort on more letters. To do this in your database select Tools - Change labels... <Ctrl+L>. Now choose the label(s) you want to sort and select Edit... - choose Options... and increase the number of characters to use in the sorting.

Best regards,

Michael Degn

Esbjerg, Denmark

www.degn.esenet.dk

www.pdanmark.dk

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 16:55:37 -0500

From: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Subject: Sorting Data Files

Hi Jim (Watson~Gove),

I expect there will be many replies but here is mine.

It's not a bug but a silly piece of design. In Data the menu item "Tools/Change Labels/Edit/Options" lets you specify how many characters to use when sorting entries. Obvious it ain't but it's there and defaults to 1. If it were under "Sort by label" it would make more sense.

Good luck,

Phil.

"If it can't be expressed in figures,

it is not science; it is opinion.

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 17:29:00 -0500

From: info

(Christoph Pulster)

Subject: Re: Sharp Slc -700 on sale now at Pulster.de :)

> Subject: Sharp Slc -700 on sale soon at Expansys > It will be interesting to see how much this colour Revo look-alike > goes up for sale in the U.K.

I already sell the C700 at http://www.pulster.de

New units directly imported from Japan. Before shipping them out to our

customers, we do convertion to English language.

Price is 749 EUR. Not cheap, but please mind the Serie 5mx does hit the

market with a similar price...

BTW, units are in stock for immediate delivery.

As I appreciate much the helpful posts from the international readers of

this list, I will ship at our expense to anywhere in the world.

Christoph Pulster

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 19:46:36 -0500

From: "Richard"

Subject: Infra Red

Dear Psion-buddies,

I have a generally flakey (unreliable) IR connection.

Malay NetBook

Web or email access

via Infrared

and a T68.

When trying to get online, web or email would say they were connecting but they lie, they lie! (ie my phone *wasn't* dialing.)

So I went to the System screen and tried to switch on IR through "Link to desktop", I get "Access Denied" or "Initialisation Failed" or similar.

Then I reset - Shift+Ctrl+Fn+K. This didn't work, so I reset with a sharp point near backup battery. Now it would allow IR access.

(Should the InfraRed port activate automatically when Email or Web needs it for a mobile modem, or do I need to set it through Ctrl+L?)

Many thanks to everyone who puts in their time to keep this Digest as useful as it is.

Oh and to Keith, Trygve and others - Happy cycling to you to. I do a daily 4 miles in, 4 miles back on my push bike. It's good fun taking on the London traffic - So far I haven't lost (too badly)...

Rico

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Date: 22 Apr 2003 19:48:01 -0500

From: "Richard"

Subject: Where to install apps?

Dear All,

I got a 128Mb D drive so I could install loads of unnecessary crap on my (Malay) NetBook. Are there any programs that shouldn't be installed on D:?

Is it better to install OPXs on C?

Any thoughts?

Cheers,

Richard

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 01:17:03 -0500

From: "Richard"

Subject: To recharge or not to recharge, (that is the question)

For info: This is a short, useful, condensed and to-the-point page about caring for Li-ion & NiMh batteries.

http://ridley.dyndns.org:8080/photo/batteries.html

Also:

Do people here use any reliable battery info/condition apps? The official Psion gauge in my MnetBook stays at full for ages, then when the batt hits halfway, I'm suddenly told to recharge. Any suggestions for a decent freeware alternative? (Guesstimated life remaining would be *really* good.)

TVM,

Richard

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 02:34:34 -0500

From: Mark DEPPE

Subject: nokia6100 gprs settings # 232 (3)

<<<Saj Jumaani Just had my phone upgraded to 6100. does anyone in here know the settings for gprs settings? I have a Vodafone account. Can anyone provide me with settings for netbook and sony vaio laptop please. Thanks!>>>

I only have netbook settings:

gprs settings nokia

For my Nokia I use

In modems settings tabs

Name: Whatever you like mine says nokia

Speed: 112500

connect via: infrared

Fax class: auto

Tab 2: Options

Never

quiet

Tab3: Initialisation.

Init reset string: AT&F&K4

Data: Blank

Fax: Blank

Tab4: Advanced

Software: Software Xon/Xoff

Terminal detect: Blank

carrier detect: Blank

Modem type: Mobile

Moving on to Internet settings:

Current internert service: vodaphone GPRS (you can callit whatever you want though)

show connection dialog ticked

if idle stay on line for 15 mins

on exit stay online for 1 minute (I usually manuall disconnect with "Ctrl U")

Tab1 Service

Name: Whatever

Conection type: Dial Up

Use smart dialing: Unchecked

Standard dial up number: *99#

Other dial up numbers: Empty

Tab 2 Account: Same for everyone

manual login: Unchecked

Username: web

password: web

confirm password: web

tab3 Adresses (now this is important I think be sure to enter 0.0.0.0 in them all)

Get ip from server: unchecked

IP adress: 0.0.0.0

GetDNS from server: unchecked

Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0

Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0

Tab4 Login

use login script: Blank

Tab5 Advanced

enable ppp extensions: Blank

Allow plain text authenticatio: Checked

use call back: Unchecked

And thats it. well almost. that would get you connected and surfing but for email you have to go and set up and email account with them. go to vodamail. The in the email app on the psion create a voda account and use Outgoing email SMTP: mail.vizzavi.co.uk

Incoming pop3 server: pop.vodafone.net

Then the usual password and username.

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 05:42:34 -0500

From: J.

Subject: Re: Sorting Data (4 Tim); Moving from S5 to S5MX (4 Gilles)

Subject: Sorting Data

To Jim Watson~Gove

who >>>>>....... created a "sort by:" field and sort the database on this field, A-Z (to force it to order by last name regardless of how the record is configured)..

......... the sort seems to be random; "Ann", "Amico", Ainsworth", "Arzan", "Anibal", etc.<<<<<

Hi Tim,

Your sorting looks limited to first character but not random.

You may try this :

Change label =Ctl+L

Then Edit Ctl+E

AND Options Ctl+O to use more than the first character (10 by default)

Happy sortings

Jack

"Messaging X Epoc Email liberates from (anti)virii, worms, horses..."

Subject: Moving from S5 to S5MX

To Gilles

>The S5Mx has the CONTACTS database, which I don't use yet. >Could anyone explain the differences between "Contacts" and the "fiches"( = >french version) databases ?<<<<<

Hem... I'ld try : Contacts shares a more "multiOS" format (Vcard) than ER5 Data (french "Fiches" NOT Fries ;-)

For instance, a Contact (not a Data entry) can be beamed to a P800, a Palm...

>How can I open my previous data by tapping the Contacts silkscreen icon ? =

>Do I need to convert ? How ?<<<<

Through Control panel /Application/... (not from the left bar in Extrabar windows)

set Data (french Fiches (not Fries:-)) immediatly to the left of the Contacts silkey,,,

now Ctl+Contacts Key will open you last opened Data (Fiche not Fries) base.

>Can I merge many databases in One ? How ? and open it with the silkscreen = >Icon ?<<<

Yes via /menu/File/More/MergeIn

BUT the labels must have been set (type, length, options...) to accurately match between the 2 (or more) different bases.

Jack

Will the french fries ;-] pass the censorship filter???

"This Msg has been simply mailed through Cable ISP x Mocha, Psion netBookUK158 EpocEmail2.00 + ReplyEveryMail2.38 macro launched by Assistant1.99 + colour_icons"