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Epoc Digest Thu, 24 Apr 2003 Volume 01 : Number 236

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In today's Epoc Digest 21 messages:

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- P800 & Sony Memory Duo

- Fwd: AlphaSoft- New Company (TrueTerm)

- Re: New mobile phone for MC218 - your advice?

- Notebook for Sale (Not mine!)

- Re: Sorting Data

- Re: Multi Cut and Paste # 234

- Re: SpellX # 233

- Sorting Data

- PsiWin Removal

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 234

- Re: Sorting Data

- Re: Moving from S5 to S5MX

- Re: Syncing Psion with GroupWise & Company Policies

- Re: P800 - handwriting recognition

- Re: Legalities

- Re: Sorting Data

- Re: Moving from S5 to S5MX

- Sorting Data

- Option Globetrotter GSM/GPRS voice/data PC Card modem

- Transferring mail

- FTP server

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 05:11:53 -0500

From: Steve Baker

Subject: P800 & Sony Memory Duo

To Kevin Thorne, Koi Hin & Rolf Brunsting et al,

Expansys (www.expansys.com) have 64Mb duo's available, but don't rush out tobuy one yet; Sony now have the 128Mb version in production, though they arein

short supply (of course!). I am awaiting confirmation of an order for acou$120 each from a retailer in Hong Kong; he says he should have them by theend of the month.

I also have a P800, but am not honestly able to exploit it to the extentthat

I would like. Although SonyEricsson have now released a Windoze 98 versionof

the synchronisation software (which WILL install and work correctly if youpersevere!), I don't tend to use a PC and don't have M$ Office 2000 anyway.I

cannot test the GSM data connectivity of the phone either, as data and faxservices are not available to subscribers in Saudi Arabia - with theexception

of roamers from abroad.

I can confirm that the transfer of address books from EPOC contacts and aEricsson R520M work perfectly. If somebody is using iContacts or similar -or

anything else that produces vCard files - then piBeam will transfer thefilesalso (standard EPOC IR Send/Receive does not work)

A potential 'killer app' for the device is MobiPocket Pro 3.0, which willallow a travelling exec or similar to store and review - though NOT modify -a

vast array of M$ Office document formats beyond that of the built-in/extraviewers. Unfortunately, this also needs Office 2000 or greater.

More as it happens, though I wouldn't expect too much news for a couple ofmonths as I'm not planning on a trip to Europe until July.

Regards,

Steve

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 06:37:02 -0500

From: "Marcus von Cube"

Subject: Fwd: AlphaSoft- New Company (TrueTerm)

TrueTerm is now maintained by a new company.

==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE==================

>From: Sigrun Göllner

>To: "sales"

>Subject: AlphaSoft- New Company

>Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:54:14 +0100

Dear Customer,

the AlphaSoft Company is closed.

From 1. November you can buy the TrueTerm/TrueCard products under:

http://www.trueterm.org/english/start.htm

<http://www.trueterm.org/english/start.htm> (english Version)

TT- Softwarevertrieb

Seilerstr. 7

70372 Stuttgart

http://www.trueterm.org <http://

Kind regards

AlphaSoft

[... German version cut ...]

===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE===================

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 07:29:56 -0500

From: U Hornstein

Subject: Re: New mobile phone for MC218 - your advice?

Hello,

thanks to all who wrote their opinions to my questions. These answers werevery helpful.

I'll go for a Siemens ME45. That outdoorish ruggedness is more important tome than fancy appearance.

With greetings from Germany

Ulrich Hornstein

sent by MC218 (EPOC palmtop)

U Hornstein wrote at Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:32:08 +0100 (> ):

> Hello list,

> I am offered a phone upgrade. So far I was a happy user

> of the Siemens S25. My options are:

> 1) Sonyericsson T68i (Triband, no GPRS)

> 2) Nokia 6310i (GPRS, Bluetooth, Triband)

> 3) Nokia 3510i (GPRS, MMS)

> 4) Siemens C55

> 5) Siemens S45i

> 6) Siemens ME45 GPRS

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 07:36:51 -0500

From: "Roy Maidment"

Subject: Notebook for Sale (Not mine!)

Hello All

Seen in the 19th April edition of 'The Spectator:' Psion UK Netbook 32MbUltra Portable Computer, £279 + £20 p&p

Complete with battery, mains charger and serial lead 8 hour battery life and7.7" colour screen, 1.1K Email to: david.lowe

With best regards,

Roy M

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 10:19:12 -0500

From: Michael Przondzion

Subject: Re: Sorting Data

Hi Jim!

Did you have a look at the length of characters to sort?

I don't know the exact translation of the english menu, but on my germanrevo I can define 'Extra' > 'Change fields' > 'Change' > 'Options' > 'Numberof characters to use by sorting fields'.

Hope that helps!

Best regards,

MICHAEL PRZONDZION

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On 20 Apr 2003 16:24:30 -0500 Jim Watson~Gove wrote:

> I have set up a database with 345 records. I created a "sort by:" fieldand sort the database on this field, A-Z (to force it to order by last nameregardless of how the record is configured).. >

> The records are grouped by first letter, all "a"s first, "b"s second, etc.after sorting the database.

> The problem is that within the groupings, the sort seems to be random;"Ann", "Amico", Ainsworth", "Arzan", "Anibal", etc.

> Am I doing something wrong? Is it a known bug?

> I use this list to prepare E-Mail addresses (thanks to a program Rolfmodified for me) and mailing labels, so easy crosschecking as I bring in newaddresses would be desirable.

> TIA,

> jim - port townsend

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 14:22:38 -0500

From: "ExAbEtAl"

Subject: Re: Multi Cut and Paste # 234

RE: Cut and paste Program

Hi All,

ExAb has both multiple clipboards (called sticky clipboards as they remainfilled when the program is closed) and a sequential clipboard function, likeCoCoPaPa, that allows you to copy several strings to the clipboard and pastthem back in the same order.

ExAb is shareware, but virtually unlimited when not registered. Please feelfree to download it from my website.

I'm sure you want to register as soon as you realize what ExAb is capable of;-)

Huub___________________________________

Huub Linthorshttp://website.leidenuniv.nl/~linthorsthjm/exabetal/

ExAb, CodeSafe, S5mboles, SpellX and more

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 14:28:32 -0500

From: "ExAbEtAl"

Subject: Re: SpellX # 233

I missed this post from #234, therefore it's here again. >>>>>>

From: Tim Williams

Subject: SpellX

On Friday, April 18, 2003, at 06:40 AM, Epoc Digest wrote:

> Re. SpellX - I use an old macro called Switchdico to switch between >different language spellcheckers. I received the French, Dutch and > Germanfiles from other users. How does SpellX work, where did you get > the filesand where can you get the program ?

SpellX is much, much cleaner than SwitchDico.

<<<<<<

Hi All,

Thanks for the praise Tim. SpellX is freeware and can be found on mywebsite. When after carefully reading the SpellX page you still haveproblems locating the Spell language versions (Italian, French, Spanish,Dutch, UK English, US English, German), contact me privately via my website.

Huub___________________________________

Huub Linthorshttp://website.leidenuniv.nl/~linthorsthjm/exabetal/

ExAb, CodeSafe, S5mboles, SpellX and more

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 15:40:12 -0500

From: Mike McConnell

Subject: Sorting Data

To: Jim Watson~Gove

Jim,

<<<I have set up a database with 345 records. I created a "sort by:" fieldand sort the database on this field, A-Z (to force it to order by last nameregardless of how the record is configured)..

The records are grouped by first letter, all "a"s first, "b"s second, etc.after sorting the database.

The problem is that within the groupings, the sort seems to be random;"Ann", "Amico", Ainsworth", "Arzan", "Anibal", etc.

Am I doing something wrong? Is it a known bug?>>>

The solution is rather well hidden. In the Data application menus, go to"Tools > Change labels". Highlight the label you sort with and tap "Edit".In the next dialog box, tap "Options". Set the number of characters to usewhen sorting.

Regards,

Mike [Dundee, Scotland]

Web: http://www.mikemcc.net

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 15:55:10 -0500

From: Mike McConnell

Subject: PsiWin Removal

To: John Welford / Susan Hofman

<<<John Welford asked how his non-tech brother could get rid of an oldversion of PsiWin. If Uninstall doesn't work, and if the computer is usingthe home version of Windoze XP, there is a feature called "restore" thatlets you get back to a version of the hard drive that worked.>>>

To "get rid" of an installation of PsiWin, remove it with Add / Remove inControl Panel and then run the PsiWin Registry Cleaner. There is a copy ofthe reg cleaner on the "Series 5(mx)" page of my website (last item on thatpage). The reg cleaner should also be used between uninstalling one versionof PsiWin and installing another version.

Regards,

Mike [Dundee, Scotland]

Web: http://www.mikemcc.net

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 19:50:08 -0500

From: Tim Schweikert

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 234

Jim,

There is a setting buried several menu levels down that governs how manycharacters are used in the sort. The default is only 1 character - whichisn't what most of us are thinking.

Tim

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From: epoc

Sent: 04/23/03 08:40 AM

To: epoc

Subject: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 234

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Date: 20 Apr 2003 16:24:30 -0500

From: Jim Watson~Gove

Subject: Sorting Data

I have set up a database with 345 records. I created a "sort by:" fieldand sort the database on this field, A-Z (to force it to order by lastname

regardless of how the record is configured)..

The records are grouped by first letter, all "a"s first, "b"s second, etc.

after sorting the database.

The problem is that within the groupings, the sort seems to be random;"Ann", "Amico", Ainsworth", "Arzan", "Anibal", etc.

Am I doing something wrong? Is it a known bug?

I use this list to prepare E-Mail addresses (thanks to a program Rolfmodified for me) and mailing labels, so easy crosschecking as I bring innew addresses would be desirable.

TIA,

jim - port townsend

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 21:16:10 -0500

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Sorting Data

Dear Jim,

<< Am I doing something wrong? >>

Check the label options (Menu -> Tools -> Change labels -> Edit -> Options)as it looks that you're sorting on the first character only.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 21:16:12 -0500

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Moving from S5 to S5MX

Dear Gilles,

<< Could anyone explain the differences between "Contacts" and the"fiches"( french version) databases >>

Contacts uses a field structure that's also used by the vCard exchangeformat as well as the majority of PC based personal information managers.This makes Contacts the better application when you exchange data with otherpeople and/or synchronise your Psion with Microsoft Outlook, LotusOrganiser, Novell GroupWise, etc.

<< How can I open my previous data by tapping the Contacts silkscreen icon ?>>

You need to transfer the information you have in the Data file to Contactsby using a tool like Pascal Nicholas' DataContacts.

<< I'm also interested in technical info about the application files (agenda,data, calc, ... ) structure for conversion purposes. Anyone knowswhere to find such information >>

The files are so-called 'stream stores' and you can get information on themby visiting the Symbian web site (www.symbian.com) and registering as adeveloper.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 21:16:14 -0500

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Syncing Psion with GroupWise & Company Policies

Dear Mike,

<< It is possible to synchronise your Psion with GroupWise if your companyallows you to do this to other PCs as well as Palm PDAs, assuming theirpolicies don't extend to you home PC ... >>

The solution you describe works but, unfortunately, doesn't fit companypolicy.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 21:16:17 -0500

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: P800 - handwriting recognition

Dear Klaus,

<< I had a demonstration of the P800 in a shop and the salesman gave me atrick for this ... Please let us know if you get one single error from now !>>

It's not a question of knowing which section of the screen is used forentering numbers and characters as I was moderately familiar with Jot,having played with Pocket PC devices. My 'problems' are all down to my ownhandwriting and the shape of the characters. The lower case 'R' I'm used towrite, for example, is recognised but the way I write it is close to theshape Jot recognises as an 'H'. The same is true for the 'E' and the 'L'.When I don't think about my writing, and enter text quickly, I regularly getan 'H' rather than an 'R' at the moment. It's a question of training myselfto write the 'R' in such a way that Jot will always recognise it as such.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 21:16:20 -0500

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Legalities

Dear Rick,

<< Whatever you consider to be the legal, political, or moral implications,whenever a piece of information is available to the public, it's surelypublic information... >>

I'm afraid you'll have to accept that it has everything to do with the legalsituation as the law also defines which rights of access to information thegeneral public has in the various countries around the globe. What isprivate and what is public information can be quite important and the reasonwhy it is not generally accepted that the publication of private informationby a third party turns it into public information.

<< My dismissal of that decision is that it makes no sense, not because ofany legal system. And these differences bear little relation to what"model" it's based on ... >>

Again, it has a lot to do with the legal and political framework. AOL nowknows that it has the responsibility not to give its French subscribersaccess to US web sites selling Nazi memorabilia. Something that may not makeany sense in the light of the US legal and political framework in which anISP is considered to be neutral. The first amendment to the US constitutionmay consider blocking the access to web sites selling Nazi memorabiliaillegal as the ownership and display of such items are deemed to be part ofthe freedom of expression. Thing is that the first amendment stops at the USborder. Thing is that sale of Nazi memorabilia is prohibited in France. Andwhat the sentence by the French court has shown is that AOL is notconsidered neutral in French law.

The legal position al matter for Google. Its web spiders may automaticallycollect whatever's out there on the world wide web. What matters is thelegal position of the company with regards to what it does with thecollected data. It is not a given that the data neutrality of the webspiders make Google a neutral provider of web directory services. Google maybe neutral according the US legal and political framework but may finditself in an AOL-like situation in other countries.

<< No, legal posturing changes the real-world position not oneounce...err...gram >>

The real world position is that the Internet is not another country withit's own constitution and legal framework. Nor can it be said that the USorigin of much of the Internet's technology automatically means that US lawapplies. If that were true it can be stated that the World Wide Web iscovered by EC law as the web comes out of CERN, an EC institution.

<< Maybe so, I can't really speak for the sensitivities of the French. ButI would see it as akin to "Limey" (as some of our "Yank" friends still callus) or "Pom" (as some of our "Kiwi" friends call us) >>

There's always a reason why such names are used and it tends to be at theexpense of the group that's being addressed. You can be quite sure that, forexample, the use of 'Yankee politics' implies a (very) negative anddismissive judgement of the US people rather the political standpoints ofthe (then current) US administration.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 21:37:26 -0500

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Sorting Data

Jim Watson~Gove

<< I have set up a database with 345 records. I created a "sort by:" fieldand sort the database on this field, A-Z (to force it to order by last nameregardless of how the record is configured)..

The records are grouped by first letter, all "a"s first, "b"s second, etc.after sorting the database.

The problem is that within the groupings, the sort seems to be random;"Ann", "Amico", Ainsworth", "Arzan", "Anibal", etc.

Am I doing something wrong? Is it a known bug? >>

Not a bug, as it's working correctly.

You need to go into 'Tools | Change Labels'. Then select the field used forthe sort and select 'Edit'. Select 'Options' and change the number ofcharacters from 1 to say 10, depending on the max. length of the field. Iwould expect the sort time to increase.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 21:37:43 -0500

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Moving from S5 to S5MX

"Gary Y Reyes" wrote:-

<< My experience is that Contacts is not as flexible as the Data program ofthe Psion. Contacts is good for basic phone and address needs. But if youhave additional fields, you can't create your own custom fields in Contacts.This is where Data is much better. >>

Whilst agreeing that Contacts is not as flexible and that you can't createnew fields; you can rename fields.

I've renamed fields, but still find that it's not a suitable upgrade for acontacts db in Data, as it's not as capable as Data.

Contacts' link with Email is it's only advantage, so what is needed is asynchronise app to synchronise a Data file and Contacts.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 23 Apr 2003 22:28:02 -0500

From: howkins

Subject: Sorting Data

Reply to Jim Watson-Gove: the reason your Data file isn't getting sortedproperly is probably because you haven't used the option to change thenumber of characters used when sorting.

If you open the Help file and select 'Sorting entries (Data)' you'll see thefollowing instruction:

'To change the number of characters of a 'Text' or 'Memo' label used forsorting, select Change labels from the Tools menu, select the label tochange and press Edit. Then press Options.' After doing this you'll seethe option to select the 'No. of characters to use when sorting theentries'. You could enter 10 or even 20 here - that should ensure yoursorted list appears the way you want it.

Robert Howkins

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Date: 24 Apr 2003 00:31:51 -0500

From: "stj"

Subject: Option Globetrotter GSM/GPRS voice/data PC Card modem

Hello everyone,

If anyone recalls I have asked in this forum if Globetrotter

http://www.option.com/products/overview.shtml works on netBook, which Ifound it won't.

I have just purchased this wonderful modem from

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?sbadd=GT1400-sd001

<http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?sbadd=GT1400-sd001&code=GT1400-sd00 1>&code=GT1400-sd001 for my sony vaio laptop. If anyone is interested toknow its features/specifications or a first hand knowledge of this modemfeel free to ask.

I know this modem won't work on a netBook but just couldn't resist thetemptation of finding it out for myself. Will update you if my netBook stillworks after using Globetrotter in it.

Regards,

saj

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Date: 24 Apr 2003 07:55:35 -0500

From: "Ian Chapple"

Subject: Transferring mail

Dear All,

having just taken possession of my David Lowe-modified netbook, Ihave a question re. email; is it possible to transfer the email on my series7 to the netbook? I know I can copy the mail folders across via infrared,but I have a feeling that there may be other files involved, ie. some sortof master database file. I haven't tried it yet, as I'm waiting for the 32MBmemory upgrade that I ordered, and as that means removing all power, theredoesn't seem much point just yet...

The netbook is very nice, and came with the OS already installed; Iwas able to get surfing straight away using my WiFi card (I bought thelow-profile Buffalo card, after Martin said that was the one he was buyingover on PsionPlace), and the speed of the whole setup (WiFi card, WiFirouter and ADSL) is superb; so far,so good.

Cheers, Ian Chapple.

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Date: 24 Apr 2003 09:33:35 -0500

From: "Ian Chapple"

Subject: FTP server

I have another question regarding my new netbook; although the OS includesnFTP, I don't have an FTP application for my Windows XP PC. Does anyone knowof a good FTP application? My wife's apple iBook is also connected to ourhome WiFi network (it's a very complicated setup we have!), and I'mwondering whether it would be possible to connect this to the XP PC via FTP;again, does anyone know of a good FTP program for Mac OS 9?