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Epoc Digest Thu, 29 May 2003 Volume 01 : Number 265
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In today's Epoc Digest 20 messages:
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- Purpose of SmtpAuth
- SRS Paiment
- Re: Irda resets
- Re: OPL Toolbar Battery Indicator Fix
- RE: Wap GPRS - NETBOOK
- TubeRoute fantasy
- SRS repairs payment policy
- Tom Tom and Macs:Caveat emptor!
- Wap GPRS - NETBOOK solved
- Re: Palmtop Money; OPX files; GPRS and WAP browser
- Re: S7 in car-update
- Emulation etc
- UK user meetings - Mobile up/download of email in UK
- Re: SmtpAuth updated
- E-mail log files
- icons in Email
- Re: OPL Toolbar Battery Indicator Fix
- OT WindoZe help
- RE: shareware registration problem
- Re: Passport photos
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Date: 28 May 2003 08:05:50 +0100
From: Marcus von Cube
Subject: Purpose of SmtpAuth
Itamar,
>Re.: SmtpAuth updated - Sorry for asking this probably "silly" question, but why do people need an smtp authentication program ? What does it do or could it do for the Psion user that (s)he can't do without it?
In a world without spam there would probably never be a need for something like SmtpAuth. In order to make it harder for spammers to send out their bulk mail, ISPs are changing the protocol of their SMTP servers: you need to authenticate yourself before you are granted access and can send mail. EPOC mail doesn't provide the neccessary settings and protocols. This locks Psion users out of certain ISPs.
SmtpAuth simply gets in the way and traps the HELO command from EPOC mail, changes it to
EHLO, waits for an authentication request from the server and in turn sends userid and
password. After that the proxy switches to transparent mode and routes the data between the
mail program and the server untouched.
Users can simply compare the contents of the logfiles in C:\LOGS\Mail to see the difference.
BTW: CompuServe changed its SMTP server in another common way: access is only granted to subscribers which are logged into the Internet via a CIS node. This makes it impossible to send CIS mail from a broadband connection or company network (except via the special HMI protocol
over telnet).
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
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Date: 28 May 2003 08:13:46 +0100
From: Marcus von Cube
Subject: SRS Paiment
Carlos, Mark,
>Come to think of it, does the same system exist in the UK as it does here, viz you pay the postman in cash when he delivers something "cash on delivery"?
Its not a matter of SRS's policy, its a problem of the "Deutsche Post". Cash on delivery is still possible in Germany but was discontinued by the Post for foreign countries. This makes it impossible for SRS to get their payment the way they did it before.
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
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Date: 28 May 2003 08:16:10 +0100
From: Marcus von Cube
Subject: Re: Irda resets
Charles,
>I have no success at all in uploading emails by infr-red, by the way; attempts always cause a re-set, so I don't bother, but it would be nice if I could.
The Irda driver has a problem when the switch off timeout is set to values >= 30 min.
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
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Date: 28 May 2003 08:27:41 +0100
From: Andrew Gregory
Subject: Re: OPL Toolbar Battery Indicator Fix
To Malcolm:
> Hmm, the toolbar battery indicator fix sure looks better than those two > triangles, but it doesnt really work now does it?
Yes it does!
> At least on my machine (netbook) it always shows the battery as being
> fully charged....
The problem is that without resorting to an OPX that's not built into the ROM, the battery status is read as one of four values: Good, Low, Very Low, and Zero! Obviously, you are never letting your battery go down to the "Low" state.
It may also be due to OPL applications not regularly updating the toolbar. Tapping on the battery usually forces the application to give the toolbar a 'wake up call'. Yes, the System screen and other built-in apps don't need you to do that, but that's down to the way the applications are written, not the toolbar. If your favourite app doesn't regularly update the toolbar, let the author know!
I'm planning on developing an enhanced toolbar that will use an OPX to get more precise battery readings, plus (hopefully) do a few other things. That will be a few weeks at least, though.
--
Andrew Gregory,
<URL:http://www.scsoftware.com.au/family/andrew/>
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Date: 28 May 2003 10:06:16 +0100
From: Malcolm J. Demanuele
Subject: RE: Wap GPRS - NETBOOK
RE:
Date: 27 May 2003 16:30:39 +0100
From: Colin Messer
Subject: GPRS and WAP browser - the solution
Although with these settings WAP via GPRS works perfectly with my MC218, unfortunately there's no way a string like at+cgdcont=,"ip","wap.vodafone.co.uk" is going to be accepted on a netbook - it can only take 20 characters Max.
I've tried leaving this blank as I do when connecting to normal GPRS internet, but to no avail. I've played around a bit with the settings, but the closest I get is a 'creating gprs connection' message on the phone, and a subsequent ' authentication failed' message on said phone.
Any thoughts?
-----Original Message-----
I found the last piece of the puzzle for Vodafone at www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html. Here are the differences between my WAP and WEB settings. Apologies for the long post.
The difference between Nokia 6510 GPRS WAP and WEB modem settings is the APN (Access Point Name) in the Data init. string
WAP = at+cgdcont=,"ip","wap.vodafone.co.uk"
WEB = at+cgdcont=,"ip","internet"
The difference between the Vodafone GPRS WAP and WEB Internet service settings is the username/password
WA WEB = web/web
and the Primary DNS server
WAP = Get DNS address from server: unticked
Primary DNS address: 212.183.137.12
WEB = Get DNS address from server: ticked
… … …
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Date: 28 May 2003 10:37:53 +0100
From: Nigel Elbourne
Subject: TubeRoute fantasy
Anthony - in a basque! - at Kings Cross!! - on a red carpet!!! This I must see!!!!
But [semi-] seriously, Basque is a most difficult language to learn [all those Xs and Zs!] so nuances are almost as difficult as in English.
I'm just grateful to all of you for continuing to Pspeak Psion.
Nigel
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Date: 28 May 2003 10:40:35 +0100
From: Mark
Subject: SRS repairs payment policy
Hi -
Carlos in Germany said on 27 May 2003 that he checked with SRS and that
their policy for Psion repairs is still "cash on delivery".
That's definitely not the case for UK customers - trust me, I waited with my
cash ready for a long while! I think the problem is probably that Deutsche
Post no longer offer Cash on Delivery to the UK (or that it's no longer a
practical option for SRS).
Incidentally, before I put it on ebay, is anyone interested in making an
offer for a recently-repaired Psion 5mx? I bought a Palm m515 whilst
waiting for the Psion repair and, although it's not as versatile, it DOES
fit in my pocket and is Bluetooth-compatible with my mobile phone...
Best regards
Mark
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Date: 28 May 2003 11:07:30 +0100
From: Timothy H.D. Williams
Subject: Tom Tom and Macs:Caveat emptor!
It was only after paying for and downloading the Italian and Cobuild dictionaries from the TomTom site that I realised the installer worked only on Windows - and not on my Mac.
I contacted TomTom asking that I should be sent the .sis installer files and after three days this is the laconic and very unhelpful reply:
> Thanks for your mail.
> The installation will not run on a Macintosh
> please visit our website :
> http://www.tomtom.com/products/platform/products.php?ID=22&Language=1 > and look at the maps en coverage
This really does not help me. I don't understand what is meant by coverage.
Thanks to Virtual PC and looking in the temp files of Windows 98, I have got the Cobuild .sis file and the dictionary - excellent, by the way - is up and running. (I can't get PsiWin under VPC emulation to connect to the Psion.)
But the Italian dictionary asks for some .dll file and refuses to open.
Is there any way for this harassed Mac user to extract a .sis file from an .exe file.?
Any help appreciated.
T
There are 10 kinds of people: those who understand binary, and those who don't.
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Date: 28 May 2003 12:22:20 +0100
From: Malcolm J. Demanuele
Subject: Wap GPRS - NETBOOK solved
Hello Again
Re my earlier attached mail, first of all please excuse me for sending the whole digest back with my reply - I've already smacked myself on the wrist for that and promised never to do it again. Secondly - I managed to sort out the gprs - wap - netbook problem, by entering the wap APN directly onto my mobile phone.
Luckily my phone (nokia 6310i) can hold a number of different apns, which can then be activated as necessary.
Cheers!
Malcolm
-----Original Message-----
From: Malcolm J. DemanuSent: 28 May 2003 12:06
To: EpocDigest
Subject: RE: Wap GPRS - NETBOOK
Importance: Low
RE:
Date: 27 May 2003 16:30:39 +0100
From: Colin Messer
Subject: GPRS and WAP browser - the solution
Although with these settings WAP via GPRS works perfectly with my MC218, unfortunately there's no way a string like at+cgdcont=,"ip","wap.vodafone.co.uk" is going to be accepted on a netbook - it can only take 20 characters Max.
I've tried leaving this blank as I do when connecting to normal GPRS internet, but to no avail. I've played around a bit with the settings, but the closest I get is a 'creating gprs connection' message on the phone, and a subsequent ' authentication failed' message on said phone.
Any thoughts?
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Date: 28 May 2003 12:26:37 +0100
From: Kevin Collins
Subject: Re: Palmtop Money; OPX files; GPRS and WAP browser
Hi folks...
Peter Marks wrote (> ):
> <<< Does anyone know whether the upgrade available for> download for Palmtop Money is still available, and if so> please let me know the website or where I can get hold> of it >>>.
Peter, AFAIK all the old Palmtop upgrades are still there at www.tomtom.com under Support, then Epoc, then Finance, I think.
_________
Philip Carlisle asked (>):
>to confirm that I can go ahead a delete the opx/OPX >folder with its 4 duplicate files.
Philip, you can. (Even if by any chance they *were* needed, which they aren't, you could always copy them back from the originals).
_________
To Colin Messer:
Re: GPRS and WAP browser - the solution
Congratulations on your success!
--
Regards,
Kevin [Cork, Ireland]
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Date: 28 May 2003 13:20:30 +0100
From: martin
Subject: Re: S7 in car-update
Reply to: Itamar Engelsman
>>>>
Now, who's website can I use to upload some photos and a short explanation ???????
<<<<
How about writing an article for FoxPop Itamar? (http://www.foxpop.ndirect.co.uk/newsviews/News1.htm) I know that Elizabeth is always happy to receive contributions and a number of people on the Digest (and elsewhere) contribute fairly frequently in order to keep the 'EPOC End Up'. ;-) She's in the process of moving her server(s) so there won't be another update until the end of June at the earliest - which gives you plenty of time! <g>
Best regards,
Martin Guthrie
—————————
www.pscience5.net
www.freepoc.org
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Date: 28 May 2003 15:06:08 +0100
From: Keith Clarke
Subject: Emulation etc
Thanks to Keith Giles, for info on the Psion emulator. Looks like I'd better wait until I'm feeling brainy to try this. I hope it's not too long a wait.
Thanks too to Itamar for advice on whether to get a 5 fixed to use as back up to a 5mx. I might give it a try, since I don't need to back up email and don't use Contacts, having never migrated from Data.
Keith Clarke
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Date: 28 May 2003 15:10:43 +0100
From: U Hornstein
Subject: UK user meetings - Mobile up/download of email in UK
Hello List,
I am planning a short trip to southern England from 20 - 26 June. If there is a Psion User meeting somewhere I would be happy to hear about it here or via PM.
Here in Germany, I am a customer of T-mobile. From experience I know, that getting my mails via T-mobile roaming abroad is very costly. Do some of you know a cheaper method of coming online with a mobile? Prepaid UK card?
--
With greetings from Germany
Ulrich Hornstein
sent by MC218 (EPOC palmtop)
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Date: 28 May 2003 15:40:20 +0100
From: Christopher Holly
Subject: Re: SmtpAuth updated
I am sure Marcus will chime in about his program, but I thought I would too as one of his "customers". I recently entered the 21st Century and got ADSL (or maybe I am just getting into the 20th century). My ADSL IP requires authentication with its SMTP server. That means when I want to send an email, I must tell the SMTP server my user ID and password. Other stuff happens in that exchange that is beyond my knowledge, but that's the bottom line. Marcus has a good explanation of it in the help file that accompanies SMTPAuth.
The regular Psion email program does not have a mechanism for doing this. XJMail developed by a programmer in Japan does. However it is a little too complex for my wife to use. Therefore Marcus's program is a godsend for us. Once we get it working with my recalcitrant ISP, I can setup a macro which hopefully can load SMTPAuth, Email, and make some of this geek stuff more automatic for my wife.
Marcus has been great about working to make his program work with my ISP.
Chris Holly
Bloomington, IN
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Date: 28 May 2003 18:16:05 +0100
From: Owen H. Morgan
Subject: E-mail log files
Hi.
I recently received an e-mail with a virus attachment. Not a problem for me since I use my Psions for e-mail, but it would have been useful to have some clue as to where it came from. Could someone please remind me which folders I need to set up on my Psion to log incoming e-mails (including the headers) to text files? This would also have been useful the other day when a friend sent me an e-mail with a 1.5mb attachment. If I'd had the log folders set up, I could have started receiving the e-mail and then aborted. That way I would have been able to read the text of the e-mail in the log file.
BTW, the virus was the file "movie28.pif" attached to an e-mail from (yeah, right...). The text of the e-mail simply said. "All information is in the attached file." Am I right in assuming there is no way of getting at the header of the e-mail to try to figure out where it _really_ came from once I've received it and deleted it from the POP3 server? It's scary how vulnerable WindoZe computers are to these critters...
Owen
Thought for the day:
My father told me, 'If it's worth doing, it's worth doing well'. That's why to this date, I haven't done anything.
--
Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W
Malahide, Ireland
http://home.no.net/naomij
Phone and SMS:
In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173
In Norway: +47 9205309
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Date: 28 May 2003 18:57:15 +0100
From: Daniele Squarci
Subject: icons in Email
Since getting the netBook, I've been experiencing EPOC in glorious colour :-) But one thing has puzzled me - what is the difference between the white envelope icon in Email and the yellow envolope icon? I never noticed this difference on the Revo!
Ciao
Daniele Squarci
Italy
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Date: 28 May 2003 20:32:04 +0100
From: Keith Giles
Subject: Re: OPL Toolbar Battery Indicator Fix
Malcolm J. Demanuele wrote:
> At least on my machine (netbook) it always shows the battery as > being fully charged....
On my MnetBook the battery indicator is correct on the built-in apps I use (Word, Sheet, Data, Jotter, Agenda). Some of my 3rd-party apps don't show the battery indicator. (ChaDis7 always has its own battery correct indicator) My 3rd-party apps that do show the battery indicator now have it always full. Looks like more work for Andrew. :-)
Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/
Thought For The Day:
All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.
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Date: 28 May 2003 21:07:56 +0100
From: Owen H. Morgan
Subject: OT WindoZe help
Hi.
I just bought a new 20 gig disk for my Win 2000 laptop. It's temporarily installed in an external USB drive enclosure and I've partitioned and formatted it (NTFS). What I want to do now is copy my entire WindoZe installation to the new disk, install it in the laptop and have everything up and running just as it is today without the pain of installing WindoZe and all my drivers and software from scratch.
I know I can't simply copy the contents of the old drive across as WindoZe expects certain things to be in specific places on the disk. Nero has an option to make an image of a disk on CD's and restore from DOS, but the restore needs to be run from a Win98 startup disk, so presumably doesn't support NTFS. (The old disk is NTFS too.)
Off list replies please.
Owen
Thought for the day:
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think they'll hate you.
--
Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W
Malahide, Ireland
http://home.no.net/naomij
Phone and SMS:
In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173
In Norway: +47 9205309
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Date: 28 May 2003 23:14:52 +0100
From: David Steer \(Plus\)
Subject: RE: shareware registration problem
Kevin,
Somewhere in the system the program puts a little file that indicates the date the software was installed. Sometimes a soft reset can resolve the problem but not in every case. If you can find the file deleting it will work. However, there is a simpler method - just change the clock on your device to about the time you installed the application and the message will go away and you will be able to register and then change the clock back!
Hope this helps,
Regards
David Steer
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Date: 28 May 2003 23:29:07 +0100
From: Owen H. Morgan
Subject: Re: Passport photos
Howdy!
Keith Giles wrote (> ):
> Thought For The Day: If you look like your
> passport picture, you probably need the trip.
If you look like your passport photo, you're probably too ill to travel...
Owen
Thought for the day:
Don't ever slam a door; you might want to go back.
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Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-953°27.22'N 6°09.05'W
Malahide, Ireland
http://home.no.net/naomij
Phone and SMS:
In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173
In Norway: +47 92053097
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