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Epoc Digest Mon, 02 Jun 2003 Volume 01 : Number 269

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In today's Epoc Digest 18 messages:

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- See the headers first (4 Itamar)

- BatGauge7 4 nB/7

- Useful Utilities

- Mac and VPC

- Purpose of SmtpAuth

- Re: S45 and Nokia 6310

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 268 (6)

- Re: Answer to Phil, meter

- mail2web, Spam & Viruses,

- usage of epoc machine

- wap browser

- Re: Drops Connection

- S45 versus t68i (? 4 Dick); Re : Telnet deleting (4 Itamar)

- Re: GPRS and WAP browser - the solution# 265 (11)

- RE: Where to find SmtpAuth

- Re: GPRS and WAP browser - the solution # 264 (11)

- Re: Siemens S45 Gprs

- Mail, GPRS and thanks

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 03:29:46 +0700

From: David Lir

Subject: See the headers first (4 Itamar)

"Re. Spam - Thanks for the info, but sometimes knowing everything doesn't make you happy either <G>. I for myself decided that SPAM is much the same as all the rubbish post I get through my letterbox (even though I always tick off not to receive it on forms) and bin immediately. I look at the headers and first delete all spam and other rubbish before downloading what I want to read (another advantage of the Psion email program, you see the headers first). On my PC, I NEVER open anything I don't know where it is coming from, and certainly NO attachments."

Just thought that I'd mention that "The Bat!", a Windows based email program, has very similar header functionality to ER5 Email. With The Bat! you can see the message headers on the POP3 server, choose what messages to download to your PC (or not) and what to leave on the server or delete from the server - all before downloading begins. It works pretty much the same way as ER5 Email. I have used it a number of times over the years to delete suspicious messages before they 'hit' my laptop. I was very glad to see that Email on the Psion worked much the same way. As a matter of fact, it is one of the reasons why I chose to go with a Psion over another unmentionable handheld. Of course, with the Psion I use the header preview only to filter out SPAM - though I've only received a couple of SPAM messages at this address this year (I hope my good fortune holds!), - but with my Windows laptop I consider a good header preview my first line of defense against viruses.

The Bat! can be found here: http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/

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David Lir - \\:>{o>

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 03:47:25 +0700

From: David Lir

Subject: BatGauge7 4 nB/7

I don't recall reading any discussion of this freeware gem on the Digest as of yet. I thought I'd bring it up in case someone else might find it as useful as I do. I've configured one of the side buttons on my MnetBook to launch it so it's always good and handy.

A quick description: when launched BatGauge7 pops up a small on-screen panel which displays the battery voltage, present runtime on battery power and an estimation of the remaining time left on the battery in hours and minutes - as well as allowing for adjustment of both screen brightness and contrast with the cursor (arrow) keys while giving an indication of the present setting for each. When the brightness is adjusted the estimation of battery runtime left is adjusted accordingly. I'm not sure how accurate the estimates are though. Unfortunately, if the program is closed down and restarted the present runtime figure is reset to zero. BatGauge7 also has an alarm function that can be configured to show a dialog box and/or play a sound when the battery has dropped to any particular voltage level.

I've found that it has replaced ChaDis7, BatCheck and SetScreen (which only allows for adjustment of contrast anyway) on my MnetBook.

BatGauge7 can be found here: http://www.marukusu.de

A version for the 5mx is also available.

Enjoy!

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David Lir - \\:>{o>

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 04:33:49 +0700

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Useful Utilities

Philip S. Adkins Potter wrote:

> Another useful utility is NoMore (Neuon, free) and I > bought nConvert - both are pretty transparent.

I've seen reference to "transparent" on a few occasions and have no idea what that means in computer-speak. The meaning is certainly not transparent to me. :-)

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/

Thought For The Day: A conscience is what hurts when all of your other parts feel so goo.

All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 12:33:16 +0700

From: vlad a

Subject: Mac and VPC

> Epoc Digest wrote:

> Jaguar, ....o communicate with my Revo. ... no luck. > And suggestions from other VPC users

I use it w. OS9 (I deleted OSX, even Apple should dotheir betatesting themselves...) - and it functions w. no problems, plug and play, and is stable. So I can't help you... Maybe just reinstall carefully, including thje extras updates.

The trouble is that the communcation is frightfully slow, so I would like to have sys- installers for TomTom Maps etc. for transfer via CF. TomTom are not helpful, so I didn't buy the latest version of their CityMaps etc..

Anyone else any idea how to extract sys- es?

vlad a

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 14:19:58 +0700

From: Mike McConnell

Subject: Purpose of SmtpAuth

To: Alan Morris

<<<However I lost the ability (on a Psion) to use my orange.net e-mail a/c for sending, only being able to receive. The ISP I'm using now is also 'upgrading', which I take to mean is much the same, so shortly I'll loose the ability to send.>>>

Sending via the Orange SMTP server works with the Psion and a GPRS connection, but not with another ISP's dialup connection (and Orange withdrew their own dialup).

Running SmtpAuth *does* now allow mail to be sent from the Orange server using the Psion with another ISP's dialup.

Regards,

Mike [Dundee, Scotland] __________________________________________

Mobile Phone & SMS: +44 (0)7870 236984

Mobile Fax: +44 (0)7977 156138

Web: http://www.mikemcc.org.uk

__________________________________________

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 14:45:50 +0700

From: Dick Chatjaval

Subject: Re: S45 and Nokia 6310

>>excellent 6310i which works very well with the Psion models <<

Thank you, Itamar, for your advice. The 6310 would be my first choice too but is no longer available in Hong Kong or Bangkok. Only the latest models seem to be on sale now with cameras, mms etc. Some friends will bring me a 6310 from Belgium in a few months, but for now I need something (preferably inexpensive) to tide me over. Please would you tell me the settings you use for the 6310 i.e. any scripts necessary? Many thanks.

Best regards,

Dick

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 16:30:05 +0700

From: Edward Hasbrouck

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 268 (6)

> Subject: SMTPAuth

> My new hero is Marcus von Cube. His SMTPAuth does exactly what I need to > keep using the Email program with my DSL provider.

My congratulations as well to Marcus von Cube. I hopre the various directories of Epoc software will be updated with pointers to SMTPAuth, since the "accepted wisdom" has been that XJMail was the only

option for authenticated mail sending. It's likely to becoem more important as more ISP's require authentication to prevent spamming.

XJMail doesn't support. Epoc Email plus SMTPAuth, for the first time I have both IMAP access and authenticated SMTP sending.

> no new information is required for my authentication.

> So if I can connect then what's to stop spammers?

No *new* information was needed *from you* becasue you had

already entered your password in your email program for POP (or IMAP) email receiving. Ticking the box caused the password already stored to be used for SMTP sending as well.

> Subject: Reset+/Alarm+ & SysBack

> Until today I didn't realise Alarm+ made SysBack redundant.

Depending on what you use it for, and how many of your settings are different from the machine defaults, it may not. I use both, and each restores some settings the other doesn't.

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Edward Hasbrouck

<http://hasbrouck.org>

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 19:45:10 +0700

From: salix

Subject: Re: Answer to Phil, meter

Hi all,

Phil asked:

Phil, Meter is an app. that you input dates or times and it informs you in real time various aspects; since, until, etc, that event or time. It is very configurable and the sun times are already worked out to your location. I find it both fun and useful. On my Meter at the moment are:

1. How many months, weeks, day, hours and minutes until my birthday

2. Hours and minutes since sunrise in Bristol

3. How many Years, months, days, hours and minutes since I met my wife

4. How many decades, years, months, weeks and days, since I was born

5. How many months, weeks, days until christmas

There are many more things Meter can do, I would not be without it - its great!!

Meter is shareware and is available from http://www.xilonen.co.uk, try it.

Best wishes

Salix

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 20:44:18 +0700

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: mail2web, Spam & Viruses,

Answer to: Kate Head

Re.: mail2web - Thanks, but I used my full email address and still got the error. Any other ideas ?

Answer to: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Re. Spam & Viruses - I read you loud and clear and I agree with you. Hoever, I don't think there is much I can do to stop the SPAM from coming, is there ?

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 22:53:06 +0700

From: gallinos

Subject: usage of epoc machine

Hello everybody!

I have been using EPOC since april 1997. I begun with a 3a and little by little I evolved to S5, S5mx and happily ended up with using a nB for 18 months now.

I started using the 3a for organizing my salesagent job, therefore you may easily understand now I have got a 6-year-long archive in my nB. Today - due also to the DIMM upgrade and a 128 MB CF - I can use it almost for everything (the exceptions are multimedia purposes, but at the moment I do not have much freetime left, so I do not worry about that).

My nB became my first computer as soon as I got to use it in WI-FI mode both at home and in the office. Not only now can I write emails from my desk, but also from the kitchen and the arm-chair as well.

The apps/programs which boosted my EPOC usage are:

(in order of appearance)

PsiWin 2.3.3

nConvert

Opera

ResetPlus

PDF

Essential Data Utilities

Phoneman

SaveMail

RMRzip

Sysback

ThesLink

Epoc VNC

Macro5

ExAb

PDFprinter

the forum which supported my loyalty as well as every buying decision of mine were "the digest" and "www.psionplace.com". I am honoured to be a member of both. I believe that Psion itself should definitely be proud of the excellent self-support service offered by communities such as these ones, to whom I am extremely grateful.

Gianluca Gallino AKA Cangiante

NB: please keep on supporting the petition for an EPOC/Symbian new netBook PRO on www.psionplace.com

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 22:53:14 +0700

From: gallinos

Subject: wap browser

Hello from Italy!

Thanks for the infos about the revo wap browser on the hungarian psion site. I went there and downloaded it, and now is on my netBook.

The fact is I don't really know what to do with that, since I have never thought about the chance of using WAP.

I would like to try it as I am constantly out for my calls during the day. So it may be useful to use it with my GSM connection.

therefore, any tips, hints, wap websites - especially those dealing with psion matters - would be gratefully welcomed!

By any chance, is there a wap version of such site as psioneering.co.uk and www.psionplace.com?

if you have some, please drop a line...

cheers

Gianluca Gallino AKA Cangiante

NB: please keep on supporting the petition for an EPOC/Symbian new netBook PRO on www.psionplace.com

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Date: 1 Jun 2003 23:17:57 +0700

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Drops Connection

Andy Hayes wrote:-

<< When I try to send emails they send OK unless they have an attachment. The attachment is a few k in size, just an RTF. The display shows sending email 1 of 2 and then the call is immediately dropped. ISP is Freeserve. Phone is Nokia 6310i - settings from the Nokia file on MikeMcC's site. >>

I had the same problem (well the same effect) and it was solved for me by Mike.

It's a long time ago, but I think the solution was to put ATS34=1 into the Control Panel - Modems - Initialisation - Data Int. string.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion 7 & Nokia 6210e

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Date: 2 Jun 2003 00:38:48 +0700

From: Jack

Subject: S45 versus t68i (? 4 Dick); Re : Telnet deleting (4 Itamar)

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To: Dick Chatjaval Subject: S45 versus t68i

What s45 would do that your used t68i wouldn't?

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To Itamar, Subject telnet deleting

You could

A- move each and every msg(s) you can to your 7 Email inbox leaving the rogue one(s) on the pop server

B- close the mailbox (if possible)

C- Immediately Telnet for deleting the remaining msg(s)

D- if B does not work :

When telneting your popserver,

after USER.... PASS......tape :

LIST

The response is a line for each message with its NUMBER and size in bytes, ending with a period on a line by itself. Sample response:

+OK 3 messages

1 1205

2 305

3 344400

Then you can : NB # = Number of msg in List = here: 1; 2; 3

RETR #

displays the msg number # on your telnet screen. You probably don't want to do this unless you have turned on telnet logging ie with Hermes

Example:

RETR 2

DELE #

This marks message number # (and only this very msg)

Example:

DELE 3

for deletion from the server. It is not actually deleted until the

QUIT

command is issued. If you lose the connection to the mail server before issuing the QUIT command, the server should not delete any messages.

Does it help??

Jack

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Date: 2 Jun 2003 00:53:21 +0700

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: Re: GPRS and WAP browser - the solution# 265 (11)

Colin Messer <<<unfortunately there's no way a string like at+cgdcont=,"ip","wap.vodafone.co.uk" is going to be accepted on a netbook - it can only take 20 characters Max........ Any thoughts?>>>

Strange as I entered in my netbook no worries, I just copied and pasted it in. Still can not get it to work though.

Kind regards

Mark

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Date: 2 Jun 2003 00:53:38 +0700

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: RE: Where to find SmtpAuth

Marcus von Cube <<<SmtpAuth is on my web site in the download path:............You'll need both and *must* have Java installed, since it is a Java application.>>> thanks Marcus this is great I hear many people at psionplace asking for this utility. I am grateful so far that Clara do not require this and nor do Vodafone, hopefully it will remain so as this SMTP hasn't yet reduced spam, I struggle (not being technical) to see how it can when the ISP seem to have loads on INFO on everyone who ever logs in to their servers, my ISPs know my phone number, name address and loads more.

Kind regards

Mark

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Date: 2 Jun 2003 00:53:46 +0700

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: Re: GPRS and WAP browser - the solution # 264 (11)

Malcolm J. Demanuele <<<Are you using a series 7 or netbook?>>> A netbook latest OS

<<<If so you CANNOT enter at+cgdcont=,"ip","wap.vodafone.co.uk" in the data init string, as these machines will only accept 20 characters maximum.>>> I entered this no problem using copy and paste.

<<<Leave this string blank, and enter the APN directly on the phone. For wap it would be something like wap.vodafone.co.uk, for internet it would be something like internet or web, this is specified by your service provider.>>> thanks Malcolm, I tried this and still no joy, I think there is something simple I am missing and it could be the older version of wap brouser i am using or that the password/ username / APN are not matching up propoerly as in I am not using the right combination.

Kind regards

Mark

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Date: 2 Jun 2003 00:53:54 +0700

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: Re: Siemens S45 Gprs

<<<Dick Chatjaval Siemens S45 or Nokia 6100. A neccessary feature is Gprs as well as decent battery life.>>> I use a 6100 happily and find the battery good and fast to charge. That said I hear that the Ericssons tend to be better with Psions and the T68i and others have exceptionally good battery lifes (also blue tooth and dictaphone the only thing I miss on the nokia.). As someone else has mentioned the 6310i works well too. For me as I use phoneman from Zenobyte it is crucial the extended phonebook feature is supported and as the siemens isn't I have stayed away, though I gather the SL55 and others are nice phones.

Kind regards

Mar

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Date: 2 Jun 2003 00:54:25 +0700

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: Mail, GPRS and thanks

Been away for a long weekend, struggling to keep up with the digest, yet so appreciate all the contributions, just wish there were more hours in the day to explore all the threads, especially the spam ones, thanks Trygve et al. I use yahoo, which has a good feature for reporting email as spam yet I still get about 5 a day, though they are rarely more than a few K and only occasionally crash mail, and it is easy enough to use Opera to "unstick" the mail box going to yahoo online, though I am finding that if I log on with Opera first I seem to get fewer mail crashes so I am suspecting it mail have something else to do with the mobile phone route I use.

Colin Messer : <<<I promised Vodafone Technical Support an e-mail. Perhaps once it gets on there database they will contact you, but I wouldn't hold my breath.>>> They left a message on my answer phone at 9pm on Saturday with a reference number and ext. to call so will let you know how I get on.

<<<Consider using TheDialer a program>>> Yes I have this, though have not thought to use it for this GPRS connection. What I am finding is it connects to GPRS no problem, it just times out or similar in the WAP browser, though if I move to email I can see I am still connected and on the phone the "G" is still there.

<<<and of course check the logs.>>> I am at a loss here, I have logs but do not understand them or know how to read them (many thanks to Mike McConnel for looking at these for me and helping to explain them)

<<<Is it possible that your System\Data\Commsdb.dat is corrupt?>>> Its possible though all the others connections work OK. If I get some more lonely time I will give the renaming option a go, at present it just is not crucial enough, more a matter of principle.

<<<so a number of builds later. Perhaps some faults were addressed.>>> Yes is anyone using the buiild I have successfully, if I get to a pc I will have a go at loading the latest wap, unless someone can point to a web link for it other than the Hungarian site (I am PC PSIWINless).

<<<I use this service setting for both WEB and WAP.>>> Interesting thanks! I notice in your setting you make no mention of what you put in the password box (so far I have tried using the same as the GPRS access point so either web, WAP or USERwhich is what I have entered on the psion, are they case sensitive?) or do I leave them blank?

(((<<< interesting about the data settings in Modem as I have had that blank for web and e-mail and it has been working fine>>> Do you still get the GPRS session set up? Without the at+cgdcont I just get a GSM session.))) Yes I have nothing in the Data init string for my GPRS settings and web and email work great.

Thanks for your Perseverance Colin I still see a slight halo of GPRS guru around you, and feel oh so close to having this solved.