Epocdigest V1 # 368

------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------

Tips for Posting to the Digest and how to unsubscribe

at the end of the Digest

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Epoc Digest Mon, 20 Oct 2003 Volume 01 : Number 368

************************************************************************

Sent to: 803 subscribers

In today's Epoc Digest 10 messages:

==============================

- Re : need apps (4 Scott)

- Re : Phone time settings (4 Suzan)

- Opera froze Netbook after using Psion Dacom card

- GPRS 5MX

- Re: Phone time settings

- AW: What programs am I missing ?

- Re: Xerox Star

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 367 (29)

- Re: Need more apps for my Netbook

- Sheet, netBook Pro Symbian, Apple (OT), What programs am I missing?,

*++++++++++&

Date: 19 Oct 2003 20:44:01 -0500

From: Jack

Subject: Re : need apps (4 Scott)

TO: Scott Lloyd

> ..looking for a application that will allow me to view jpegs,bitmaps<

RE MBMview is the best (Pb to register)

>> ...direct me to a jpeg app<<

RE What about Opera?

NB v3.62 has a better colo(u)r rendering than the later version included in nB OS. So I'ld suggest to instal DualOpera then v3.62

>>> ....Im trying to set it [REVO]up as a quick backup machine <<<

U could try the reliable EpocSync for that?

All the best

Jack

*++++++++++&

Date: 19 Oct 2003 21:51:51 -0500

From: Jack

Subject: Re : Phone time settings (4 Suzan)

>>> ..."more hours in "GMT setting"".

My phone doesn't have that option both in the phone 'settings' menu and the organizer time settings menu...<<< Hi Susan, It's an Advanced setting within Date and Time settings.. at least in my T68i J.

*++++++++++&

Date: 19 Oct 2003 22:12:57 -0500

From: Edward J. Curtis, Jr.

Subject: Opera froze Netbook after using Psion Dacom card

I brought a Netbook off e-bay recently (one of the Malaysian ones, it looks like), with a Buffalo wifi card, which works very well at home. I took it to California with me and there was no wifi around, so I connected via dial-up with a Psion Dacom card I was browsing Yahoo with Opera 5.14 when, after a couple of pages, Opera froze. I couldn't close Opera and I couldn't get to the System screen. I pulled the Dacom card -- we had to use the phone for voice -- but the Netbook didn't come back, even though I left it plugged in for several hours (this has worked with other programs in the past). I finally had to do a paperclip reset. Has anyone else had this experience with Opera? What, if anything, did I do wrong, or what should I avoid in the future? Thank for your response.

*++++++++++&

Date: 20 Oct 2003 01:54:51 -0500

From: Manuel Campos Galvan

Subject: GPRS 5MX

Fellow Psionistas:

I have just receivedan offer from T-mobile to try here in the US their GPRS system. As I use the 5mx a lot for mobile e-mail,the option appealed to me instead of using the phone to dialup my isp as GPRS promises faster access (57000 vs 9600).

I have been using GPRS for a couple of weeks, but it seems tome that it is a bit flaky (sometimes you have to try several times to get a successful connection, and other times it seems tobe awfully slow. Is this the general experience?

Also, does anybody know of:

1.- Whether the GPRS settings work when you are roaming in another country (e.g. Europe); and

2.- Whether there is any utility to measure the actual speed of the GPRS connection from the Psion?

Best Regards,

Manuel Campos

*++++++++++&

Date: 20 Oct 2003 06:21:12 -0500

From: Marcus von Cube

Subject: Re: Phone time settings

Susan,

>Just set the phone time with (in your case) +5 more hours in "GMT

>setting".

Simply pretend you were living in London, UK, and not using DST.

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

*++++++++++&

Date: 20 Oct 2003 08:15:24 -0500

From: Norbert Fernkorn

Subject: AW: What programs am I missing ?

Dear Itamar,

That's a very good Idea from you!

I use a few additional and interesting programs:

> With the discontinuation of the Psion machines we cannot

> expect many more new software to come out if any. So the

> question pops up in my mind, what important (or not) software

> for my EPOC machine(s) did I overlook ? So, although we

> covered some of this already a while back, here is a list of

> the third party software I use more or less regularly :

> Utilities : Menu5 - Assistant - Merlin - JB5Stopgo -

> nConvert - Startup - Crontab - CleanIt -

> EpocTools -Find - C-loader - Defrag -

> Freecrypt - Epocsyc (not anymore) - MBMView -

> RMRZip - Chadiss

FileSwitch - Backup - Setscreen - Compact - S5Zip

> Communications : TheDialer - Phoneman - Opera & web

> Car : MyCar - Routeplanner - Streetplanner

CoDriver

> Financial : Fincalc - abp5 - Money

Mina

> Games : Monopoly - chess - BridgePro - Go - Pyramid -

> Othello - Sokoban - Terra Force - SimCity - Poker - Psolly

Sacada - SolitaireDX - PsiTris Solitaire - PsiMind - Adder - Kniffel - Goby (Nintendo)

> Useful : Pdf - ConvertPro - safeplace - Luach - 3

> dictionaries - FLWorld5 - Photopal - HebRead

Gen5 (for Genealogy) - Liga5 (for football tables and others) - piano - Guitar - Cocktail - EuroCoin

Working Tools:

VacTrac - Collins Dictionary - Notepad - Plan - ConvertPro - TestMe - Trainer

> Ok, guys and girls, what am I missing ?

Are there any other good programs?

Best regards

Norbert Fernkorn

Goslar, Germany

*++++++++++&

Date: 20 Nov 2003 11:09:36 -0500

From: Euan Mee

Subject: Re: Xerox Star

On 10 Oct 2003, at 16:35, Epoc Digest wrote:

> And before that Apple pinched the research done by Xerox. Xerox didn't > use it, possibly because it did not improve office efficiency.

Yes, Xerox did use it.

However, on the hardware available at the time Xerox 'productized'

their research, it all worked /painfully/ slowly. Consequently, it was not a commercial success, and Xerox didn't try again later once

faster hardware was available.

Cheers,

Euan

xlucid

this).sf.(antispam.)net

*++++++++++&

Date: 20 Nov 2003 11:21:37 -0500

From: Euan Mee

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 367 (29)

Itamar wrote:

> Software is already beginning to become a bit thin on the ground and I have a distinct feeling that many now see the writing on the wall with the recent announcements by Motorola and Vodafone > An issue often overlooked is that the Symbian plat orm is heavily dependent on MicroSoft technologies with as consequence that phone vendors

> (1) are still beholden to MicroSoft's licensing policies and

> (2)MicroSoft could break -accidentally or deliberately - both the SDK and Epocconnet

> And will Nokia and Psion not strip away everything out above the kernel and the wireless stacks now that interest in native apps is waning ?

To refute these points:

There SymbianOS phone base is now over 2.3/4 million, with more

devices coming onto the market, and the price points coming

down. I /don't/ think that this shows 'writing on the wall'.

The Symbian platform is essentially designed to remove any

potential Nokia dependence on Microsoft.

The development toolchain is based on GNU tools, and so are fairly

safe from Microsoft lock-in. Metrowerks, the current official SDK

suppliers, are a multi-platform company.

Nokia have recently re-iterated that they are committed to their

Series 80 form factor for the long run. (This is the display/interface

that the currently available Communicator 9210i/9290 use.) And

the Series 80 uses native apps, remember?

Cheers,

Euan

xlucid

this).sf.(antispam.)net

*++++++++++&

Date: 20 Oct 2003 12:36:21 -0500

From: "Daniele Squarci"

Subject: Re: Need more apps for my Netbook

Scott Lloyd wrote:

>> If someone would be so kind to direct me to a jpeg app, and maby a 801 wireless setup?<<

The best (only?) Jpg viewer app is MBMView that you can find at Tucows, but sadly not register as the author died aboiut a year ago.

801? Do you mean 802.11b? WiFi is built in the netBook. All you need is a WiFi card. Check out Ian Silvester's FAQ for details on set up:

http://www.isbg00598.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Ciao

Daniele Squarci - Italy

*++++++++++&

Date: 20 Oct 2003 13:01:23 -0500

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Sheet, netBook Pro Symbian, Apple (OT), What programs am I missing?,

Answer to: Jim Watson-Gove

Re.: Sheet - Thanks for yr reply. At the moment I am not using any spreadsheet program on my Clie. I just got the MP3 working and am still struggling with the photos. At the moment I will keep my spreadsheets on my capable S7.

Answer to: Mark Deppe

Re. netBook Pro Symbian - Listen, we are all entitled to our opinions. I don't think it will make much difference as Psion have choosen to go a certain way and will not change that. If I would have to make the choice to buy a netBook Pro with Symbian v 7, meaning that all my existing software on my S7 will be unusable, and at a price that is comparible to notebooks and laptops, I would pass. Sorry. And the netBook Pro with Symbian v. 5 will not work as we have been explained.

Answer to: Cyril Catt

Re. Apple (OT) - So in the eyes of some it is acceptable to restric tthe competition up front but not in a later stage ? As I said before, I am not a great Microsoft lover myself, but do feel that some of the criticism is unfair.

Answer to: Christopher Holly

Re. What programs am I missing ? - Thanks for the answer. SMTPAuth is a good one but using Compuserve and Freeserve I don't need it at the moment. PDFPrinter, I hardly print out anything from my Psion, I am very much a "screen reader". Psimind I will t y, ExAb I have already Macro and Assistant and how many programs like that can one have ? <G>. And of course, the Editor I do have and forgot to mention (all my old digests are stored in text files via the editor).

I think Opera works better than Web as more and more websites have Java and Web is really getting "old fashioned" now with less and less websites you can read with it. Luach is a program that gives the Jewish Calendar for many years to come together wi h a lot of extra data for the Jewish Lifestyle. Chadis is also interesting for a S7 as instead of just giving the voltage it will show you the total number of hours you are working since the last recharge. So if you know that on average you get 5-1/2 hour out of your battery and you see from Chadis you already worked 4 hours on it, you know how much time you have got left to work. If you don't have electricity near you (traveling, airplane) you can cut back on games and keep spare power to download and re d your email for example.