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Epoc Digest      Sun, 02 Nov 2003     Volume 01 : Number 375

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Sent to:  791 subscribers

In today's Epoc Digest 17 messages:

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- MSN Messenger for Epoc

- Calendar q`s,

- RE: Epoc Digest V1 # 374 (4) : Re : Netbook Ethernet cards , Re: netBook Pro Symbian , Re:Exciting times ahead, Re: POS possible color Revo- RE: ISP lockup, STD access no., Nokia taking up Psion's mantle

- ISP lockup

- Re: Exciting times ahead

- RE: Calendar q`s

- Re: IR bug in the netBook OS

- RE: PsiCards # 373 (2)

- Nokia Shows hope

- Database file

- netBook & Siemens 35i

- Re: REVO batteries (again) and new version ?

- Re: Opera froze Netbook after using Psion Dacom card

- Re: Entertainment

- Re: Need more apps for my Netbook

- Re: What programs am I missing ?

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Date: 31 Oct 2003 11:23:25 +0000

From: Malcolm J. Demanuele

Subject: MSN Messenger for Epoc

I use msn messenger on my pc extensively to communicate via instant messaging. Until recently I used Ruksun software's 'MSN messenger force' on my netbook, and though nothing close to the windows version, it worked fine.

Recently though, it seems that Microsoft must have changed something in their system, as I started receiving a message to update my msn messenger while I was logged in on the netbook, (impossible as the update is only available for windows) and after a week or so, it just stopped working.

I sent an email to Ruksun, but as yet, I've not received a reply :(

Is there any other way I can go around this, or does any one know of any other MSN messenger programme for the netbook?

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Date: 31 Oct 2003 13:10:26 +0000

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Calendar q`s,

Answer to:  vlad a

In the week view you have got the week number, and otherwise there is a macro that will show you the weeknumber as well. Let me know if you need it.

To ALL :

Still available the oldfashioned travelmodem as well as two serial cables for the 5MX/S7/Revo/3C I just found in the office.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 31 Oct 2003 13:23:18 +0000

From: Arent Kits van Heijningen

Subject: RE: Epoc Digest V1 # 374 (4) : Re : Netbook Ethernet cards , Re: netBook Pro Symbian , Re:Exciting times ahead, Re: POS possible color Revo

On : 29 Oct 2003 11:39:27 +0000: Antony wrote about :

Netbook Ethernet cards

>> I already have a 3Com Etherlink III card that I can not get to work. It is not a cardbus device, but clearly is incompatible with Psion Gold Card drivers.<<

These cards will not work because of hardware compatibility issues between the HPC Pro hardware platform and the 3C5**-based cards

NE-2000-based models such as Socket and Silicom should work (Tip : Check for compatibility with iPaq 3600/3700/3800 ,SHARP 5000/5500/5600 and HP Jornada 680/690/710/720/728  I use a Socket LP E in my J680 )

On: 29 Oct 2003 15:52:05 +0000 : Itamar Engelsman wrote

about: netBook Pro Symbian,  Nokia 92..,

>> Re.: netBook Pro Symbian - First of all I don't have a "vendetta" at all, and in my various earlier messages wished the project success. Yes, _personally_ I am pessimistic about it and don't see it come of the ground. But who knows, if it does I might even buy one to replace my by than "old" S7, but that will depend _for me_ to a large extend on which software will be available.<<What will happen to Symbian in the future now that Nokia is the only member with a substantial involvement?

>> Re. Nokia 92.. - It sounds certainly interesting. The main disadvantage is that such a machine is also a phone. If you can't switch on the PDA part without the phone part, you can't use it in airplanes or in a meeting where you need the detail in the PDA but don't want to be disturbed by phonecalls. Otherwise, as said sounds interesting.<<

All Communicators (9210i, 7650,3650,N-Gage,6600 and 7700) have an offline profile with the the phone section switched off  

The 7700 will even be usable as a regular PDA without a SIM card  

On: 29 Oct 2003 22:15:07 +0000:

Kevin Thorne

wrote about: Exciting times ahead

>> Wow.  Not one but TWO new possibilities to replace my beloved dear departed 5mx with something more pocketable and up to date than my current S7!  The 9200 series Nokia is almost (but not quite) already there as a 5mx replacement but currently lacks Bluetooth and a usable amount of RAM for serious palmtop use. 

Yup , the N-gage as well as the 6600 have more RAM than the current Communicator and can be used both as serious replacements for even a high-end PDA

>> A souped up version of the Revo sounds even more exciting but I just have a horrible feeling they would make it run Palm OS if it ever came to be, making my existing software incompatible.  I await further information w

ith great anticipation! <<

Yes , I do understand your qualms but the software compatibility issue will also raise its head with Symbian

IMHO , POS could do a much better job by improving the s3mx ( more RAM , onboard user-accessible flash , Bluetooth , OBEX , better keyboard , touchscreen perhaps ?)

This could be the perfect smartphone companion , it could hold copies of the smartphone's addressbook ,calendar and possibly even the Memo application

Email could be be composed on it , uploaded off-line to the phone and stored there until sending 

On: 30 Oct 2003 04:59:26 +0000: Walker, Jan

wrote about : RE: POS possible color Revo

>> If, indeed, POS releases a color screened REVO with mega memory, I will buy more than one for sure. 

<snip>

Better yet, how about an updated 5MX with the color and newer operating system?  <<

Personally, I think that a rigorous update of the s3mx is the more promising route , with the 5mx they will sooner rather than later run into both Intellectual Property  as well as software compatibility issues

An updated s3mx can be an excellent smartphone companion, especially with the models now arriving in the market

k

Sent with Symbian OS Mail from a Nokia Series 60 smartphone

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Date: 31 Oct 2003 14:07:29 +0000

From: Simon Jeffree

Subject: RE: ISP lockup, STD access no., Nokia taking up Psion's mantle

To: Antony

Interesting hypothosis about the mal-formed RPC requests causing the lockups. 

Sounds completely plausible to me.  Ho hum.

Anyway, thanks for the local call rate ISP numbers but, as stated, these are no use to me because T-Mobile doesn't include 08.. numbers in the free minutes allowance.  But the list of ISP is handy nevertheless.

Regards,

Simon Jeffree

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Date: 31 Oct 2003 14:07:43 +0000

From: Simon Jeffree

Subject: ISP lockup

To: Astrid  Stappenbeck

<< Have I been more 'lucky' or did you oversee a simple switch off/ on ? While my touchscreen failed me completely and almost all keys had stopped as well,

Fn + Esc did still react and I could bring my 5mxPro back to life. >>

Without wanting to sound like I'm snapping at you - as these lockups do tend to wind me up - of course I tried a simple on/off.  I found that Fn+Esc (off) was the only keystroke which worked.  When I turned it back on, I could just see the bl nk screen go slightly darker, indicating that it had switched on, but that's the only life I got.  I think you were definitely more 'lucky' than I was.

Regards,

Simon Jeffree

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Date: 31 Oct 2003 15:15:28 +0000

From: Mark Deppe

Subject: Re: Exciting times ahead

Kevin Thorne wrote: <<< Itamar wrote: POS plans to release what will amount to a souped-up version of the Revo in about 6 months time (keep watching their website for details).>>>>

Can you post a link for this; I had a trawl round their website but could see no mention of it

Kind regards

Mark

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Date: 31 Oct 2003 15:38:51 +0000

From: Michael Degn

Subject: RE: Calendar q`s

Answer to vlad a

Dear Vlad,

> Does anyone know how I can get the weeknumber in my calendar-app on an MX? <

You'll be able to see it in the week and busy view.

Best regards,

Michael Degn

Esbjerg, Denmark

www.degn.esenet.dk

www.pdanmark.dk

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Date: 31 Oct 2003 15:51:16 +0000

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Re: IR bug in the netBook OS

Martin Guthrie wrote:

> Thinking about it, this is an obvious little OPO/Macro to be run on > reset/start up isn't it? I'll generate it and publish shortly...

Would this be a good candidate for the Startup tab of AlarmPlus?

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net

Thought For The Day: God made man at the end of the week, when he was tired.

All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.

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Date: 31 Oct 2003 19:34:43 +0000

From: David Steer \(Plus\)

Subject: RE: PsiCards # 373 (2)

Vlad Wrote:

>Date: 29 Oct 2003 10:49:48 +0000

>From: vlad a

>Subject: PsiCards # 373 (2)

>Fyi:

>http://www.psionplace.com/software/series5/PsiCards-2000-09-14-psion-series 5.html#details

>Lists only version 1.8 and no web-site.

>:-) No, thanks, I uninstalled it because it is addictive, but I played with it on a 5mx with no problems.

Vlad,

Thanks for pointing out that it only shows version 1.8, I didn't even know it was on their site! It does give product URL though.

It is addictive!  That is why I wrote it!  I wonder which is the most addictive game???

Regards

David

Still enjoying Psions!

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Date:  1 Nov 2003 01:02:35 +0000

From: Scott Lloyd

Subject: Nokia Shows hope

I was recently reading a article about Nokia ceo of development and was very impressed by two things, He comes from

Sun Microsystems, yea unix, and he is not afraid to go toe to toe with microsoft. Java devices are becoming very popular

and its extremely portable, again Psion was just ahead of its time. I still think the planet is getting wise to the lame OS

of microsoft and starting to look to new options. My Netbook, plus all my other Psion devices are for me a much better

fit, besides a spreadsheet on my Dell Axim is like trying to read a postage stamp.....old eyes.

God Bless

your friend in Texas

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Date:  1 Nov 2003 04:18:54 +0000

From: A. Bernard Olij

Subject: Database file

I appreciate some help with the following: I recently changed my PC from Windows 98 to Windows 2000. Over the years (since 1996) I work on my PC with a Psion DBF file, first from a Psion 3a, later from my 5mx. I thought that the procedure transporting y file from my PC to my Psion would be the same easy as in Windows 98, however I run into problems.

When sending the DBF to my Psion, it is ending up as a Word file and it is completely scrambled. When I try to open the Psion file in PsiWin, I get the message: Can not find PSIDBF.DLL . I tried  re-installing PsiWin, but the end result is the sam . As this is an important file for me, consisting of about 4500 biographies of Indonesian painters and totalling 1,6 mb, I need to do things right. Can anybody give me advice?Bernard Olij

Dau, Indonesia

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Date:  1 Nov 2003 11:16:00 +0000

From: Peter Rand

Subject: netBook & Siemens 35i

Hi m.garrett,

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Since buying my netBook about 6 weeks ago I have struggled to use the IR port to email via my trusty Siemens 35i and virgin.net...

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Have you tried these modem settings:

Modem

Name          Netbook IR

Speed           115200 baud

Connect via    Infrared

Fax class       Auto

Options

Loudspeaker in use   never

Volume                     medium

Pause time for","        4 seconds

Initialisation

Init. (reset) string    ATZ

Data init. string       AT&F

Fax init. string        empty

Advanced

Flow control       Hardware

Terminal detect    checked

Carrier detect       checked

Modem type       Fixed line

Works for me - good luck!

Peter Rand

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Date:  1 Nov 2003 14:10:53 +0000

From: Jaan Sass

Subject: Re: REVO batteries (again) and new version ?

Yeah I loved the Diamond Mako I had except for the battery problem I had and no slot for a flash card. I would definitely be interested in souped up revo with more memory, flash card capability and a color screen.

Jaan Sass

Br JaanFrancis BSCD

E-mail: brjaan

AIM: brjaanfrancis32

> Dear All,

> One of the subscribers sent me the following information

> :

> Quote ...

> Although the following information - gleaned from the

> Revo expert at POS Services when I rang about my own

> Revo - may be a bit too late for your own immediate

> benefit, it might be useful for someone else (feel free

> to post it to the Psioneering list or wherever you think

> it would be relevant):

> 1) Revos did indeed suffer from many battery problems.

> When POS now replaces the batteries + cable and/or power

> PCB controller - all 3 of which could and did commonly

> develop faults in the past - they use versions far

> superior to the original. Sure enough, after two

> services to have my machine resuscitated and all three

> parts replaced, it now works just fine (b'li ayin hora).

> No matter how long or short the recharge past 100% on

> the gas guage, I always

> get a decent, reliable full one week's usage, minimum.

> No more sudden deaths in the middle of typing out an

> important letter for someone, like happened before...

> 2) POS plans to release what will amount to a souped-up

> version of the Revo in about 6 months time (keep

> watching their website for details). Actual specs are

> still being decided, but it will most likely have a

> colour screen (a monochrome version might also be

> available), and should have Bluetooth capability and

> lotsa RAM. If the techies get their way, it should also

> include a microphone. It will run either EPOC or Palm

> OS; they've yet to decide.

> Me thinks they should stick to EPOC, for all sorts of

> reasons, not least of which is the fact that they have

> most experience with it. What do you say?

> ... unquote

> I can't verify the correctness of the above information,

> but it certainly does look interesting ..... ??!!

> Bye,

> Itamar Engelsman

> London, UK

Bye bye

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Date:  1 Nov 2003 15:02:15 +0000

From: Jaan Sass

Subject: Re: Opera froze Netbook after using Psion Dacom card

Hi

I am using a traditional ISP and infrared modem and sometimes experience Opera freezing though admittedly not that often. Usually I just disconnect and reconnect and that seems to take care of the problem. It happens only at certain websites with alot edia going on. Yahoo does not seem to work for me anymore so I use google and altavista which work great. I think the problem lys with the media of certiain websites and how opera works. I remember reading somewhere that Opera 5.14 for Epoc os was a rough product and some features were not completed.

>

> I brought a Netbook off e-bay recently (one of the

> Malaysian ones, it looks like), with a Buffalo wifi

> card, which works very well at home. I took it to

> California with me and there was no wifi around, so I

> connected via dial-up with a Psion Dacom card. I was

> browsing Yahoo with Opera 5.14 when, after a couple of

> pages, Opera froze. I couldn't close Opera and I

> couldn't get

> to the System screen. I pulled the Dacom card -- we had

> to use the phone for voice -- but the Netbook didn't

> come back, even though I left it plugged in for several

> hours (this has worked with other programs in the past).

> I finally had to do a paperclip reset. Has anyone else

> had this experience with Opera? What,

> if anything, did I do wrong, or what should I avoid in

> the future? Thanks for your response.

Bye bye

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Date:  1 Nov 2003 15:02:25 +0000

From: Jaan Sass

Subject: Re: Entertainment

Keith I agree but am keeping eyes on some Linux devices as well as the new revo that POS is talking about releasing. I would like to get my hands on a netbook classic. I do love my Psion 7 especially the simple data program and epoc word.

Jaan Sass

Br JaanFrancis BSCD

E-mail: brjaan

AIM: brjaanfrancis32

> Keith wrote:

> <I've said it before and I'll continue to say it - for

> my purposes there's absolutely *no* current PDA on the

> market to replace my 5mx. So "fall short"? No. I

> completely agree with someone who wrote somewhere that

> the emphasis with current PDAs seems to be

> entertainment. I could care less. I get my entertainment

> from more interesting sources.>

> I've not personally found any other device to be more

> functional for my needs so I'll also stay with my S7 for

> as long as I can.  Hurrah for EPOC!

> Regards

> Kevin Thorne

Bye bye

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Date:  1 Nov 2003 15:02:29 +0000

From: Jaan Sass

Subject: Re: Need more apps for my Netbook

The 5FX is very much overlooked in this newsgroup. It is an excellent photo editor with a lot of potential. The website is:

www.stampark.co.uk

Check it out it also has a slide show function.

Jaan Sass

Br JaanFrancis BSCD

E-mail: brjaan

AIM: brjaanfrancis32

> Scott Lloyd wrote:

> >> If someone would be so kind to direct me to a jpeg

> app, and maby a 801 wireless setup?<<

> The best (only?) Jpg viewer app  is MBMView that you can

> find at Tucows, but sadly not register as the author

> died aboiut a year ago.

> 801? Do you mean 802.11b? WiFi is built in the netBook.

> All you need is a WiFi card. Check out Ian Silvester's

> FAQ for details on set up:

> http://www.isbg00598.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

> Ciao

> Daniele Squarci - Italy

Bye bye

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Date:  1 Nov 2003 15:02:33 +0000

From: Jaan Sass

Subject: Re: What programs am I missing ?

Very comprehensive list missing solun, Dark Horizon, mobipocket, No mans land, smuggers, Castles III by neoun, and signature. Also I have heard rumors of new Nokia symbian devices aimed at companies and POS is making a device based on the revo if this s true I am not sure the OS is dead. I do know that netbook classic is still in production.

Jaan Sass

Br JaanFrancis BSCD

E-mail: brjaan

AIM: brjaanfrancis32

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