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Epoc Digest      Tue, 09 Dec 2003     Volume 01 : Number 396

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In today's Epoc Digest 19 messages:

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- CF card recognizing ?

- zExe # 395 (2)

- 512Kb Compact Flash

- OT: Julius Caesor vs Oedpus Rex

- Psion Macintosh

- Kai su teknon

- Cost of new machines - EUR 1,500 and up?

- Digest sticking to Psion subjects (392)

- Discussion of Non-Psion Machines (393)

- Palm Backup Battery

- Sony Clie PEG-NR70: A possible replacement for my Psion? (394)

- Agenda Views, Malaybook,

- Re: Your message to the Epocdigest

- RE: Epoc Digest V1 # 393 (10)

- Re: Program list

- Modem settings

- Agenda Views (Andy Hayes)

- S5 Obsolete?

- Attn: Idris Crumlish


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Date:  7 Dec 2003 12:15:16 +0100

From: Victor Marchand

Subject: CF card recognizing ?


I have a small Canon 8MB CF card. It came with my MC218. I´m sure it used

to work.

However, I´ve reformatted it on my PC. (with FAT, 12 bit...) Now both my

MC218 and Series 7 do no recognize it anymore. Anyone any idea how to

straighten this out ? EPOC says the disk is simply not present. Under

Windows I can read and write the same disk. Reformatting in EPOC isnot

possible since it´s not seen at all


thanks

Victor


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Date:  7 Dec 2003 13:32:36 +0100

From: vlad a

Subject: zExe # 395 (2)


> Alan Morris wrote:


> The method could also be used on an Apple.


... just being enthusiastic about the elegance of the zExe... May I go on? So please excuse the lay comments:


On a MAc, and an IBM-compatible afa my user experience goes, de/compressing *adds* to the time needed to load a program/document. I guess the order of operations would be: decompress-save to (be it virtual) HD-load in RAM. Stuffit (Mac) is efficent, compresses to 65%, but it wouldn't be practical to stuff a whole HD or even the frequently used apps/docs.


What zExe seems to do is, load things in RAM first and *then* decompress and activate them on the fly. I wonder whether software larger than a few Kb would allow this sort of overall speed gain *and* run stably. Would the Mac allow this? T'would be worth a try...


Would the calculation you made (Digest V1 # 392) work if the sequence were different and not in RAM? Also, would it with larger data amounts on a - relatively speaking - slower processor? Eg, loading a 50 MB app-package with 250 reserved RAM, Mac-Photoshop for instance) in 512 MB RAM with a fast processor is slower than loading a maximum of say 100 Kb on 32MB RAM and this ARM processor?


> Epoc Digest wrote:


> if the zExe program should for some reason become corrupt....


> I tried it with some system programs....and had to do a hard reset.


I compressed C, and no problems...


I imagine it makes less sense to compress CFs, although the author of zExe claims it still also saves time. Besides, I am wary, I've had bad problems with CF directories (mostly when switching between Mac/Psion, we've had this here several times a while ago). My (very) lay guess would be that compression might add to them... However, I have never had a corrupt file on C.


I always have a double backup on 2 separate CFs. Besides if zExe becomes corrupt, you can uninstall and reinstall it.


zExe only compresses some program-libraries (.exe, .app, .dll, .ctl, .opx, etc., according to the author) so in a worst case, you'd just have to reinstall these.


Thanks all for your comments!


best,


vlad


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Date:  7 Dec 2003 17:01:42 +0100

From: Jorge Ramos

Subject: 512Kb Compact Flash


Hi All


Anyone have any experience using a 512Kb compact flash (mine is a no-name brand) on a Series 5mx Pro. My 5mxPro unit either says "Disk not present" or "Corrupt", or it resets itself. Have formatted the disk on my Series 7 using Atelier's SmartFormat prior to inserting in the 5mxPro as it will not format in the latter. Usage on the Series 7 is better but also somewhat erratic, as it sometimes says "Not enough memory" after which i remove and reinsert the disk to coninue. All very annoying. Any feedback welcome.


Thanks and regards,


Jorge Ramos

South Africa


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Date:  7 Dec 2003 17:07:53 +0100

From: Timothy H.D. Williams

Subject: OT: Julius Caesor vs Oedpus Rex



On Sunday, December 7, 2003, at 06:51  am, Edgar Brazda MD, PhD  wrote:


> The original Latin saying goes: "Et tu mi fili, Brute?", as Rolf

> rightly translated it "You too,

> my son?" (but the original is not in Greek, of course...)


Calling somebody my son doesn't necessarily mean that person is your

son. In English, the word child can but doesn't necessarily mean

offspring.


> Marcus Junius Brutus was born in or about 85 BCE, as the eldest son of

> a Roman politician with the same name, a man who never made it to the

> top. Father Brutus was killed in 78 by Gnaeus Pompey , a young general

> who was to become famous. The boy was educated by the half-brother of

> his mother Servilia, Marcus Porcius Cato , and later adopted by a

> relative of his mother, Quintus Servilius Caepio. To honor his

> adoptive father, the young man started to call himself Marcus Junius

> Brutus Caepio.



According to Plutarch:


> Caesar had a good reason for this: he had an affair with Brutus'

> mother, and he did not want to bring the young man, whom he had often

> met at the house of his mistress, into troubles.



http://www.livius.org/bn-bz/brutus/brutus02.html


>     It is extremely difficult to  find the historical relationship

> between Brutus and Caesar. Caesar is said  to have commented, on

> hearing Brutus make a political speech, that "I  do not know what this

> young man wants, but everything that he wants, he  wants very badly."

> It is clear from several sources Caesar was  extremely worried about

> Brutus' safety during and after the civil war  versus Pompey. he

> issued orders to his commanders that Brutus must on no  account be

> killed in the fighting and that they must spare his life.  Plutarch

> claims this was due to Caesar's affection for Brutus' mother, 

> Servilia, because (as Suetonius writes) "...in Caesar's youth he had 

> an affair with Servilia, who was madly in love with him, and as Brutus

> had  been born at about the time when her passion was at its height,

> he had  always cherished a suspicion that Brutus was his own son."

> Servilia's  passion was Caesar was "notorious." This is surely

> incorrect;  Caesar was only a teenager at Brutus' birth, as well as

> married elsewhere.



http://www.geocities.com/arodmj23/history.html


I think William Shakespeare would have written a different play if for

a moment he had suspected that Brutus had killed his own father.


T


The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they

start making vacuum cleaners.


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Date:  7 Dec 2003 17:13:59 +0100

From: Timothy H.D. Williams

Subject: Psion Macintosh




On Sunday, December 7, 2003, at 06:51  am, Owen the Sailor wrote:


> * Totally shitty Mac connection.


I recommend the Java Psion Link. What it is supposed to do it does well. It is amazingly stable.


T


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I long ago came to the conclusion that all life is 6 to 5 against.


Damon Runyon


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Date:  7 Dec 2003 18:08:31 +0100

From: "Jack"

Subject: Kai su teknon


Edgar, Budapest, wrote  >>

>>"The original Latin saying goes: "Et tu mi fili, Brute?", as Rolf rightly translated it "You too, my son?" (but the original is not in Greek, of course...)<<


RE


The roman elite willingly used ancient greek and Caesar may well have originally uttered :

                                «Kai su teknon!»

                     ie  "may the same happens to you!"

Suetonius stress the meaning  "you to" by translating :

                            "Tu quoque, Brutus..."

Anybody knows that Brutus is Servilia (Caesar maidservant) son.

The added "mi fili" suggests  that agonising Caesar had yet to confirm (reveal?) his paternity!


Jack


PS Tu Quoque, George W. Bush! Ref : http://virus.lucifer.com/virus/1421.html


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Date:  7 Dec 2003 19:26:45 +0100

From: Peter Rand

Subject: Cost of new machines - EUR 1,500 and up?


I've noticed that most of the potential new Psion 7 replacements (wireless Apple iBook, NetBook Pro, various Win CE.Net machines) now seem to be priced at around EUR 1,500.


Am I imagining things, or have prices jumped across the board by about EUR 500? In terms of a Series 7 replacement, I had been thinking in the EUR 1,000 range, but now it looks like small sub-notebooks cost just as much or more that some full-fledged WinXP notebooks.


Any other observation about pricing trends?


Peter


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Date:  7 Dec 2003 20:30:37 +0100

From: Nicole Carbonara

Subject: Digest sticking to Psion subjects (392)


Jan


>> If someone can give a detailed comparison to some other potential

(keyboard only) replacement device.  I don't want to consider Palm devices

although the Sony NX 50 clamshell device is a lovely temptation. <<


Take a look at:


http://www.clie-online.sony.net/prod_info/peg-ux50/

http://sonyelectronics.sonystyle.com/micros/clie/models/ux50.html


I replaced my Psions (5mx, Revo, Mako) by the UX-50.


Nicole


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Date:  7 Dec 2003 20:43:02 +0100

From: Nicole Carbonara

Subject: Discussion of Non-Psion Machines (393)


Koi Hin


>> I think most Palms (including Sony's), PocketPCs and other PDAs are on

par with our Psions, perhaps better in some areas (like Bluetooth), not as

good in others. <<


As you probably know, the UX-50 not only has IR and Bluetooth but also

built-in WiFi, which is a major improvement compared to the Psion.

Unfortunately the OS is Palm i.e. dreadful compared to Epoc.


Nicole





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Date:  7 Dec 2003 20:58:00 +0100

From: Jim Watson-Gove

Subject: Palm Backup Battery


<<What's surprisingly bad, of course, are the 30 minutes of battery backup. Still, all the Palm models right up to the Palm M515 didn't have battery backup at all. Don't know whether this is still true of the current Tungsten and Zire models, though.>>

>


Rolf,


I suspect that none of the Palm units or look-alikes (like my Treo) have backup batteries.  They use a certain percentage of the charge on the rechargables like on the Revo/Makos.


At first this bothered me greatly (I'm a bit absent minded).  Then I realized that because of the HotSync vs PsiWin backup programs, I am now using the Treo and Dana differently than I did my Psions.


I use my Psions as stand-alone machines and the Dana/Treo combo as part of a three computer "network".  After working with either the Dana or the Treo, I perform a hotsync.   After two hotsyncs, all of my files are available on all three machines, without file conversions being needed.


I have looked with scorn on the Palm user downloading copies of data to carry around when away from the offfice.  Now that" I are one", I find, with the addition of the Dana keyboard and the Treo thumb-board, the Palm OS is working for me.


I almost blew the Treo away today (warning messages etc. about low

battery).  If I had, it would not have been no big deal - a hotsync would fix it.


The nature of the beast makes for very regular backups.  Both of my units have flash cards (the Dana has two) and BackupBuddy that does an additional backup once a day (programed for automatic backup at midnight while I am asleep).  This has been invaluable as I have blown away the Treo a number of times learning the machine.  A quick recover from the card and I'm back where I started.  Much like the Psion but faster and easier.


Now if only my machines had stronger processors (and yes, I can solve that by buying a top-of-the-line Palm).   This is the major weakness of the palm (IMO).  Better than the old Zaurus, but not as strong as the 3a.


jim - port townsend


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Date:  7 Dec 2003 21:06:12 +0100

From: Nicole Carbonara

Subject: Sony Clie PEG-NR70: A possible replacement for my Psion? (394)


Aleck


>> If anyone has comments or recommendations, please let me know. <<


Take a look at the UX-50 links I give in "Digest sticking to Psion subjects

(392)" and about the UX-50 connectivity in "Discussion of Non-Psion

Machines (393)".


Nicole


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Date:  8 Dec 2003 00:32:23 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Agenda Views, Malaybook,


Answer to:  Andy Hayes


Re.: Agenda Views - I think that is easy, I use it all the time. Divide the day view to show up to 08.00 am on the left and from 08.00 am onwards on the right. Now time all y our To-do's to show up before 08.00 am and they will appear on the left side only.


Answer to: Thomas F. VAN DER ZIJDEN


Re. Malaybook - Thanks for the answer. As the Os most likely will not be updated anymore anyhow, your answer shows there is no significant difference between the Malaybook and the netBook. So why to pay more if one can still get the Malaybook ? Does anyone know how many were produced and how many are still for sale ? By the way, is the Os in ROM or in RAM ? Will the memory extension for the S7 also work on either the Malaybook or the netBook ?



Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK


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Date:  8 Dec 2003 01:23:06 +0100

From: "Chaand Nagpaul"

Subject: Re: Your message to the Epocdigest


Thanks Rolf- I will in future


Another request-I am subscribedbut could not send the message form this address, only by sending from my previously registered compuserve addresss. Can you kindly arrange for the waitrose address to be registered to receive messages from me?


Regards


Chaand

----- Original Message -----

From: "Epoc Digest"

To: "Chaand Nagpaul"

Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:47 AM

Subject: Your message to the Epocdigest




Hi Chaand,

You sent a message to the Epocdigest and did not delete the original whole digest.

As this unnecessarily blow up the digest, please don't do this in the future.


Thank you in advance for your cooperation.


With best regards,


Rolf Vonau

The Epoc Digest Team


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Date:  8 Dec 2003 08:04:27 +0100

From: Steve Morton

Subject: RE: Epoc Digest V1 # 393 (10)


Hi

The other possible addressThanks

Steve


-----Original Message-----

From: Epoc Dig

Sent: 06 December 2003 9:44

To: Steve Morton

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 393 (10)



"Steve Morton" wrote at Fri,  5 Dec 2003 09:04:57 +0100 (> ):


Hi Steve,


> I think I might be subscribed twice, I'm getting

> two copies of each digest. Only need one thanks

> Steve


You are subscribed onnly wI couldn't find your second address.


Pls. tell me your second address so I can unsubscribe it.


--

Best Regards

Rolf Vonau

The Epoc Digest Team




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Date:  8 Dec 2003 09:35:21 +0100

From: Chris S Handley

Subject: Re: Program list


Hello Owen,


Thanks for the description of REM's features.


> automagically creates a new e-mail, inserts a greeting

> "Howdy!" followed by "Whatshisname wrote (> ):", the quoted

<snip lots of REM features>

> REM is very configurable and much more complicated than

> Chris' macro so it takes a bit of time to set it up the first


Since REM obviously already does a far better job, I don't think I'll bother to officially distribute/develope my macro - no point in me reinventing the wheel.


But incase anyone wants to use my macro (for some reason!), I'll make a version that I will be happy for anyone to redistribute themselves (whether by email or web page).  Mainly I'll want to make it clear that there is no real support for the macro, because REM already does it better.


Of course, the source code is GPL, so anyone can improve it if they wish.  I'd be very happy to see someone add REM-like abilities to it.


> PS. Our other Rolf - Brunsting who is able to participate in

> this digest thanks to Rolf Vonau's digest software doesn't

> like REM, but that's his problem!


Yes, why does he prefer >>this kind of quote<< to the REM style?  Is it dislike for REM itself, or just the quoting style?  If the former, then he could try my macro...  Rolf?


Regards,

Chris Handley


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Date:  8 Dec 2003 16:54:40 +0100

From: Jan R Gustafsson

Subject: Modem settings


For Rolf B: Your suggestion for modem settings MC218/T610 did not work for me. It seems that the init string ATZ&F&K3 created problems.

Only ATZ works ok. Did I miss something or...?

Jan G

Stockholm, Sweden


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Date:  8 Dec 2003 17:26:37 +0100

From: Joe Fell

Subject: Agenda Views (Andy Hayes)


I set my 5mx based on paragraph in earlier iteration of newsletter - my settings are as follows:

Agenda

       tools

             view preferences

to open Day View Preferences window

title position  (Left Page)

Standard Enty Type   (Day Entry)

Compress empty slots  (ticked)

Duration Bars   (ticked)

Overlap Bars   (ticked)

Show Duration or End Time  (Neither)


Then to "Slot Definitions"

Left page   from   (01:00 am)

             To          (05:00am)

       Slot Duration (01:00)

       Show            (neither slot time nor line)

Right Page: from  (06:00am)

       To                (11:00pm)

        Slot Duration (1:00)

        Show            (Slot time and slot line)

[Okay]  [Okay]


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Can anyone help: I am using :data: on 5mx for names and address (converted from "contacts" file with C2F - - how do I 1)extend length of data allowed in any given line, and 2) show last name comma first name in "card browser" window?


TIA


Joe Fell


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Date:  8 Dec 2003 21:50:17 +0100

From: Saj T. Jumaani

Subject: S5 Obsolete?


S5 has just earned a place in these sites: www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org <http://www.obsoletecomputersmuseum.org/> or http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/psionseries5/


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Date:  8 Dec 2003 21:51:58 +0100

From: Saj T. Jumaani

Subject: Attn: Idris Crumlish


Idris: Did you get the Proporta rigid case for S5 I have sent you?


Cheers,

Saj


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