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Epoc Digest Sun, 07 Mar 2004 Volume 01 : Number 466

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In today's Epoc Digest 15 messages:

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- Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 462 (15) : Re: Blocked email & Emulatorinfo request

- Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 464 (15) : OT: File missing on yourwebsite ( 4 Chris Marwood )

- Corrected Message : Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 464 (15) : OT: Filemissing on your website ( 4 Chris Marwood )

- The Great Psion Giveaway!

- Re: TCP/IP update (4 Chris); Jotter update?

- Re : Setting up nB

- Modem & Port Scanning

- Nokia 9500

- Re: Setting up my Mbook

- Re: Viruses

- Re: Nokia 9500

- Psion ad sighted

- Re: Setting up my Mbook

- MBook modem phone numbers

- Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 463 (15) : Re :Nokia 9500 ( 4 slitchfield,martin and kevinthorne ) :Re : Walkabout with Gates

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 15:58:26 -0500

From: Arent Kits van Heijningen

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 462 (15) : Re: Blocked email & Emulatorinfo request

On : 2 Mar 2004 18:53:54 -0500

m.garrett wrote about : Blocked email & Emulator info request

>> Recipient: <itamar

>> Reason: EMail from mailserver at 62.253.164.46 is refused. << >>See http://spamblock.outblaze.com/62.253.164.46 <<<

Hmmmmm... Pot calls kettle black ( 4 itamar : de pot verwijt de ketel dat ze zwart ziet ) I get lots of spam relayed through Outblaze's systems

Also it is true that much of it comes from the RBOC's and cableco's in North America as well as as other parts of the world

The details : Spam only takes a minuscule dent out of the total available bandwidth and system resources of a telephone/cable operator Voice traffic in the case of a telco and audio/video programming in the case of a cableco is the biggest chunk of their traffic

A single voice/fax call generated more traffic than all spam sent during 24 hours from one (trojaned ) machine on their network

Trow in the "we hebben geen boodschap aan de boodschap " attitude in telcoland and you get the idea

Still don't believe this ?

Point your favourite news client ( or Google ) at : news.admin.net-abuse.email wich makes an excellent - albeit lengthy - bedtime read And don't forget /. ( ! ) where this is a recurrent subject for heated debates with often outspoken vieuwpoints

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 15:58:27 -0500

From: Arent Kits van Heijningen

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 464 (15) : OT: File missing on yourwebsite ( 4 Chris Marwood )

For : "Christopher Marwood" Sb : File not found

Visiting your website founf that the following file was missing : http://www.vanbrughquartet.com/graphics/christeaching.jpg

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 16:02:12 -0500

From: Arent Kits van Heijningen

Subject: Corrected Message : Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 464 (15) : OT: Filemissing on your website ( 4 Chris Marwood )

For : "Christopher Marwood" Sb : File not found

Visiting your website found that the following file was missing : http://www.vanbrughquartet.com/graphics/christeaching.jpg

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 16:45:56 -0500

From: Neil Thompson

Subject: The Great Psion Giveaway!

Moved up(?) to a NetBook Pro and so am having a clearout of my EPOC stuff. So the following is available on a first-come, first-served basis. With one exception all you need do is pay the postage.

OK so I have:

- Presentation Maker (2 floppies and the manual)

- SimCity (1 floppy + manual)

- Collins English/French Dictionary (1 Cd + manuals)

- Programming Psion Computers (Book + CD)

- Palmtop magazine (issues 13 - 37) & Palmtop User (issues 1, 2, 5 & 6)

These are too heavy to send so are collect only. I am in Reading, UK.

If you are interested in any items then please email me and we'll arrange something.

Thanks

Neil

www.neilthompson.co.uk/psion

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Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

Version: 6.0.592 / Virus Database: 375 - Release Date: 18/02/2004

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 16:47:41 -0500

From: Mike Dyer

Subject: Re: TCP/IP update (4 Chris); Jotter update?

Subject: Re : TCP/IP update (4 Chris); Jotter update? To Chris,

>>>...Now PERSONALLY, I would not use this fix because it has not (AFAIK) been definitely proven to originate from Psion... And that means it could easily be a nasty Trojan (which also happens to fix the freezing)...<<<

From: Jack

Re :

¿ What could be wrong with ?:

http://www.psionteklogix.com/teknet/pdk/netbook-pdk/update.htm

Nothing,

it is a good program that fixed my Revo+ and it's internet connection problems. However when it was first posted the download site was not an official Psion site and therefore of concern for the suspicious minded.

Regards,

Mike Dyer.

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 17:24:30 -0500

From: Jack

Subject: Re : Setting up nB

To: Melvin Woody

wondering about "driving" oniroco card

<<<.....I gather than I need to be able to get the Orinoco drivers onto the Mbook...>>>

All you need is already in your Mb :

Ctl+S/ethernet/rLan

HTH

Jack

Stay free from "drivers CD", blue screens, windon't... use Epoc only.

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 18:25:59 -0500

From: Andy Hayes

Subject: Modem & Port Scanning

I have found an old US Robotics modem (56k FaxModem). I have connected to my ISP OK, but the sound (white noise) keeps going all the time that I am connected. Is this a faulty modem or a setting that needs changing?

Crontab worked for me before patch2 and continues to work afterwards! Very good! What are other people using CronTab for?

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 18:43:00 -0500

From: Kevin Thorne

Subject: Nokia 9500

Steve Litchfield wrote:

Ah, this is much more like it! Not since the introduction of the S5 in 1997 have I felt so excited (note - I must get out more!) We could be looking here at a true Symbian successor to our beloved 5 at last. OK, I bet the keyboard won't be as good (who could better the 5's?) but that list of features Itamar listed a couple of Digests ago are just great! My personal experience of the original 9210 (which I used for 18 months until a broken screen made it uneconomical to fix) was that it was nearly there as a 5mx replacement but not quite - this new machine though sounds a much better beast with a decent amount of memory at last and I wait with bated breath for the first review on it :-)

Now, time for curiosity to step in. As it has Wi-Fi, presumably (with the right equipment) one could use it only as a PDA as the Internet connection could be made via a landline? Also presumably, if someone has a PAYG SIM that does not support data or fax this could still be inserted into the machine to use the phone side for PAYG voice calls, giving the user the best of both worlds, i.e. PAYG voice calls plus fax and data via a landline?

Regards

Kevin Thorne

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 20:38:57 -0500

From: ian chapple

Subject: Re: Setting up my Mbook

Melvin Woody wrote,

>> Perhaps I simply haven't found the right instructions in the Manual on the CDRom, but for now, I'm still perplexed about how to really make use of my MBook. For example - I bought and Orinoco card so that I could connect with my DSL wireless modem. But the Orinoco came with a CDRom which I used to install software on my desktop PC. All well and good. But don't I have to get some of that software onto the MBook? How can I do that? I can't use the connecting cord that I bought from Expansys because that needs a 9 pin serial port at the desktop end and I don't have one free. So I'd hoped to use the Orinoco card -- for which purpose I gather than I need to be able to get the Orinoco drivers onto the Mbook, which takes me into a vicious circle. <<

You don't need to install any drivers on your Mbook; the card will either be recognised by the Mbook when you insert it, or it won't. The only drivers you need, and certainly the only drivers available for the netBook, are already installed as part of the OS. Whether or not your WiFi card is actually recognised by your Mbook depends on the chipset used in the card.

Hope this helps, Cheers, Ian.

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 23:03:04 -0500

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Viruses

Owen H. Morgan wrote:-

> Iterestingly, I sent this e-mail yesterday with the

> subject line "Fwd: Notify about your e-mail account

> utilization" and it was bounced by freeserve, presumably

> because of the subject line which came from the original

> virus e-mail?

As can be seen from my address, I use freeserve. But I'm receiving many virus/junk e-mails. It would be nice if they bounced them rather than putting them into my inbox!

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 23:03:12 -0500

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Nokia 9500

Steve Litchfield wrote:-

> In answer to the question about the Nokia 9500, it will

> have 80MB of memory. Probably 48MB user flash memory and

> 32MB RAM, the split to be confirmed. Plus expansion card,

> of course.

Let's hope that it's a CF card.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 23:52:25 -0500

From: Armin Podtschaske

Subject: Psion ad sighted

Hi friends,

I just sighted a Psion ad.

In the film "Space truckers". SF from 1999 with Dennis Hopper.

It is an a billboard from the year 2196 at the space-highway from mars to the neptuns-moon triton. It says "PSION Series 3". (Appr. 5 min after beginning of the film.)

Psee you,

Armin

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Date: 8 Mar 2004 02:30:42 -0500

From: Wong Koi Hin

Subject: Re: Setting up my Mbook

Reply to: Melvin Woody

Dear Melvin,

>>So I'd hoped to use the Orinoco card -- for which purpose I gather than I need to be able to get the Orinoco drivers onto the Mbook, which takes me into a vicious circle.

The MnetBook already come with the drivers in it. No need to install anything.

regards,

Koi Hin

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Date: 8 Mar 2004 03:35:26 -0500

From: Melvin Woody

Subject: MBook modem phone numbers

In my frustrated attempts to connect my MBook to my e-mail and my desktop, I've encountered yet another roadblock. I tried to set up the goldcard modem that I got with the MBook - only to find that the setup screens insist upon including both the country code and the area code in the dial up number, with the result that it dials the wrong number, since neither of those codees is necessary in order to reach my ISP. I've fiddled and diddled. But the only result is that the dialup number is now a mishmash of double country codes, zeroes and the area code - finally terminated by the local number, which is all that I want in there. I now see that if I could get the gold card or the WiFi orinoco card to work, I could communicate with my desktop using ftp. But so far, my MBook is a self-contained monad that I can't seem to connect to the wider world in any way. How can I persuade it to only dial the local number?

Melvin Woody

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Date: 7 Mar 2004 15:58:26 -0500

From: Arent Kits van Heijningen

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 463 (15) : Re :Nokia 9500 ( 4 slitchfield,martin and kevinthorne ) :Re : Walkabout with Gates

On: 3 Mar 2004 19:53:16 -0500

Kevin Thorne wrote about : Nokia 9500

>>Now, dare I ask this? Have Nokia yet again crippled the poor thing with a measly amount of RAM or have they finally seen the error of their ways and allowed the Symbian OS to fly with a decent amount of headroom? I for one am very interested in this new product but won't even consider one in the future unless that RAM is at least 16Mb this time - I speak from bitter experience with my old 9210; it was a fine machine in many ways but completely spoilt (IMHO) by this very annoying limitation.<<

Nokia quotes 80 megs of total memory , personally I think they can't get away with anything less than 16 megs of RAM ( the n-gage has 16 megs of RAM ! ) so I suspect it will have at least that and more likely 32 megs of RAM

if they use XIP for both OS and onboard apps then 16 megs will suffice

The price makes it a real PDA killer however ...

On: 5 Mar 2004 10:05:00 -0500

Steve Litchfield wrote about:

Nokia 9500

>> In answer to the question about the Nokia 9500, it will have 80MB of memory. Probably 48MB user flash memory and 32MB RAM, the split to be confirmed. Plus expansion card, of course <<

>>These are interesting times. Psion/Nokia 9210 owners now have a way of keeping going for another few years with a proper keyboarded, clamshell machine, with up-to-date specs and support.<<

At EUR 800 this is likely to kill off devices like Sharp's SL-C series and Sony's PEG - UX models as the size is smaller , the functionality is greater and battery life probably better

My guess is that this one will last at least 3-4 years and that the next iteration will be a laptop-killer device

>>Palmtop User - http://www.palmtop.co.uk/<<

Now is the time to make Palmtop User completely Web-based , more Symbian-centric (SymbOS 32 R6.1 and above ) and part of the 3-Lib site and phase out the paper magazine completely

Comments welcome

On 5 Mar 2004 13:23:21 -0500

Timothy H.D. Williams wrote about :

Walkabout with Gates

>>http://www.psionteklogix.com/public.aspx?s=com&p=News&POid=560<<

Was to be expected ... the WorkAbout is the last Symbian-only device that is now being dropped

Psion is now a CE-only shop as of this release

On 5 Mar 2004 14:52:02 -0500

Martin Guthrie wrote about :

Re: Nokia 9500

>>Had a brief play with one at 3GSM last week - looked nice and the keyboard was much improved IMO.<<