Epoc Digest Mon, 08 Mar 2004 Volume 01 : Number 467
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 07:11:11 -0500
From: Martin Maxwell
Subject: RE: Nokia 9500 and Smtp Auth
Subject: RE: Nokia 9500
>>>It will also run most existing 9210 apps without modification<<<
This is of course to be officially confirmed. There were some disappointing
statments from Nokia towards the opposite. I'd reckon OPL will need some
enhancements to work, including a couple of additional SendAs options.
>>>Ah, this is much more like it! Not since the introduction of the S5 in
1997 have I felt so excited (note - I must get out more!) We could be
looking here at a true Symbian successor to our beloved 5 at last. OK, I bet
the keyboard won't be as good (who could better the 5's?) but that list of
features Itamar listed a couple of Digests ago are just great! My personal
experience of the original 9210 (which I used for 18 months until a broken
screen made it uneconomical to fix) was that it was nearly there as a 5mx
replacement but not quite - this new machine though sounds a much better
beast with a decent amount of memory at last and I wait with bated breath for
the first review on it :-)<<<
Personally I am even *more* excited about the Nokia 7700, which has a user
interface and features *very* close to the ER5+Eikon combination. It comes
with a 640 x 320 screen (incidentally same pixel format as the venerable
Geofox One). Give it a typeable Bluetooth keyboard and you are there.
The Nokia 9500 lacks two fundamental features for my needs, a good, typeable
keyboard and touch screen. For these reasons it it is more a Series 3
replacement than a Series 5 replacement. Apart from that it seems to be an
amazing machine.
Could I scrape together enough money to buy both? And a Bluetooth keyboard?
cheers
Martin Maxwell
Kuala Lumpur - Malaysia
RE: SmtpAuth updated to version 0.7
>>How about a version for Series 45/60 phones and 9210/9500 ?<<
From Symbian OS v7(s) and onwards, SMTP authentication is built-in. So both
Series 80 v2 (e.g. 9500) and Series 60 v2 (e.g. 6600) should have it.
I did not know there is something called Series 45, but in any case it is not
Symbian OS.
As for Series 60 v1 and Series 80 v1, I have actually asked Marcus about this
earlier, but unfortunately I have not had time to engage in it further. My
Java is not too strong either. So I probably would have to translate the
whole thing to OPL. Anyone else with Java skills? (and time?).
cheers
Martin Maxwell
Kuala Lumpur - Malaysia
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 07:56:44 -0500
From: Wong Koi Hin
Subject: Re: MBook modem phone numbers
Reply to: Melvin Woody
Dear Melvin,
>>But so far, my MBook is a self-contained monad that I can't seem to connect
to the wider world in any way. How can I persuade it to only dial the local
number?
I sssume you have tried to create a new Internet Service for your ISP? Simply
uncheck <Smart Dialling> and key in the number exactly as you would dial it
in the <Standard Dial-up Number> space. Actually it even tells you this on
the dialog itself. You probably never saw it after the many times you looked
at the same screen?
I am somewhat concern over your inability to get certain functionalities of
your netBook working. If you are new to the Psion range of machines or any
PDAs may I strongly suggest you read the manual. The netBook is a wonderful
machine with a well designed interface (most of the time) which most people
get the hang of very easily. For aspects we are unsure of usually a quick
flip through the manual yields the answer. The manual follow the trend
nowadays of supplying lots of pics and instructions in everyday
language(most of the time) and is actually a joy to go through (insomuch as
going through manuals is ever going to be enjoyable).
I hope after this you will have a wonderful time with your machine. Welcome
to the club.
warm regards,
Koi Hin
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 08:07:49 -0500
From: Wong Koi Hin
Subject: Re: Nokia 9500
Reply to: Alan Morris
Dear Alan,
>>Let's hope that it's a CF card.
It seems like perhaps there are some who are interested in knowing more about
the Nokia 9500 but is either unable to access Nokia's website or choose not
to. Here are the key features copied from the site.
**
Full QWERTY keyboard and two 65,536-color displays
Tri-band operation on five continents
80 MB built-in memory, support for additional memory with memory card (MMC)
High-speed data connectivity with EGPRS (EDGE)
Wireless LAN access
Email, Personal Information Management (PIM), HTML 4.01 / xHTML browser
Business applications like word processor, spreadsheet, and presentation
editor, and viewer
Office tools: Documents, sheets, presentations (Microsoft compatible, MS
Office 97 onwards)
Security solutions: SSL/TLS, VPN, Ipsec, WPA
Integrated VGA camera, video recorder, MMS
Symbian 7.0 OS (series 80 platform), Java MIDP 2.0 and Personal profile
Advanced voice features: Integrated handsfree, conference call
Bluetooth technology and Pop-Port™ interfaces for versatile enhancement
support
**
As you can see, it is MMC. I, however, am very happy it is NOT Sony
memorystick or its variants. This has emerged as a strong contender for me
personally as a successor device to my Revo. The other contender would be the
Sharp SL C7xx series. Will have to wait till I try my hands on one before I
make a final decision.
Warm regards,
Koi Hin
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 08:26:15 -0500
From: Marcus von Cube
Subject: Re: SmtpAuth updated to version 0.7
Manuel,
>Great Work! Cheers for Marcus!. But, how does it work?
SmtpAuth sits between the mail application and the SMTP server. The recent
update has made it a little smarter in detecting which part of the SMTP
conversation is taking place at the moment. So it can detect whether the mail
app is currently sending headers or data. If instructed to do so by the ini
file, SmtpAuth drops the Bcc header from the mail but not from the envelope.
This way, the mail reaches
the Bcc addresses which are no longer included in the header part of the mail
(where they don't
belong!)
Arent,
>How about a version for Series 45/60 phones and 9210/9500 ?
I don't think it's neccessary or are the old bugs (Bcc, no SMTP
authentication) stil in the newer machines? If they are, you can try to run
the application "as is" because it is written in Java.
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 09:18:04 -0500
From: Edgar Brazda MD, PhD
Subject: Re: Subject: SumIF formula in Sheet
>A B
>1 a
>45 b
>23 a
>12 b
>34 a
>I wanted to add all the values for "a" and show the result in a cell.
Hi Dave,
what you can use is:
SUMPRODUCT(range1,range2) returns the sum of the products of corresponding
items in two ranges.
I.e., the first item in range1 is multiplied by the first item in range2, the
second by the second, and so on.
The result is the sum total of all these products.
So instead of "a" or "b" use 0 or 1, or generate a separate column like this
A B C
1 1 =IF(b1=$x$100;1,0)
45 2 =IF(b2=$x$100;1,0)
23 3 =IF(b3=$x$100;1,0)
12 1 =IF(b4=$x$100;1,0)
34 2 =IF(b5=$x$100;1,0)
=sumproduct(a1:a5; c1:c5)
and if you write 1 or 2 or 3 or anything in x100 field, you will get the
respective SUM in a6.
Edgar from snowy Budapest
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 10:33:12 -0500
From: Antony Booth
Subject: HTML Mail macro
To:Chris S Handley
Thanks for the code. I actually used the following, which replaces them with
space (Char 32)
BuffPos& = BufferAddr& + 8
WHILE BufferAddr& + Bufflen& + 8 > BuffPos&
IF PEEKB(Buffpos&) = 6
POKEB Buffpos&, 32
ENDIF
BuffPos& = BuffPos& + 1
ENDWH
It may use 06 instead of 0D0A simply to save memory?
Antony Booth
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 12:42:13 -0500
From: Astrid Stappenbeck
Subject: Psion software site / cables
Hi,
it seems that the software previously available from Psion has now been taken
off the sites as Psion has sold that part of the company. I recently had a
look at Psion Germany and UK and unsuccessfully tried the ftp server but
there wasn't anything. I wasn't really in need of something but now wonder if
things like the JVM, the connectivity update or PsiWin are still out there.
(Don't need any of it - just wondering.)
--------------------
Cables
Sorry, there was a mistake in the last posting. The screencable from
Pulster.de is of course 29 € not 39 € - quite a difference.
Astrid
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 12:44:24 -0500
From: Astrid Stappenbeck
Subject: Re: http://psion-gmbh.com/
Hi Vlad,
> Looking for info for Christopher, I went to
http://www.psion-gmbh.com/support/icw/index.mv?r=starttop
and found a pharmacy... which partly uses exactly this adress (see also "page
info"). How is that possible?! <
I guess it's either because they eventually realized that the name is rubbish
and therefore returned to their old one
http://www.psion.de
or it is because of the sale of its software.
> Here there used to be "the internet configuraton wizard", a small online
application which helped create a .sis with modem settings... very smart...
where would it be? <
Half an answer: it is on the psion.de site under support
www.psion.de/support/icw/index.html
but when you click the button after you'd entered all the info it will tell
you that the site for compiling the sis file wasn't found.
There is also still a Downloads section listed but when you click on it you
get a site-not-found message. I was neither able to log onto the ftp server.
ftp://ftp.psion.de/
The UK site tells that the software part of the company has been sold to
another company and offers a link but that doesn't lead to the formerly
available files.
The Hungarian site still works so you can get a connectivity update, printer
drivers or PsiWin from there. On the German pages you can still get Opera
3.62 for Netbook. But as far as I know it was only the German site that
offered iWizard.
Maybe it's possible to persuade Psion to keep the services and continue to
offer the files for download. The software division sale shouldn't be a
problem if all concerned were applying common sense since it wouldn't cut
into the business of the new owner. But then it is probably quite a big IF -
when you think about past software struggles with Psion (colour Monopoly, 5mx
and POS...)
If somebody has news about Psion file sources - let us know, please.
Astrid
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 13:30:04 -0500
From: Armin Podtschaske
Subject: Re: MBook modem phone numbers
Hi Melvin!
> I tried to set up the goldcard modem that I got with the MBook
> [...] the setup screens insist upon including both the country code and the
area code
> in the dial up number, with the result that it dials the wrong number
> [...] neither of those codees is necessary in order to reach my ISP
> [...] How can I persuade it to only dial the local number?
Just deactivate the [Use "smart" dialing], than it just dials the number you
enter in the ISP-settings.
If you tick the "smart dial", the number dialed depends on:
- country code and area code of your ISP in control panel - "Internet"
- the Country and the Area code of the used location in control panel -
"Dialling"
The Area code in "Dialling" has to be entered with leading zero.
In "Internet" it has to be entered without leading zero. The country code in
"Internet" has to be entered without any zeroes and pluses, the "+" in
"Standard dial-up number" can't be changed.
My settings are (Munich, Germany):
In "Dialling": Country [Germany] Area code [089].
in "Internet": "Standard dial-up number" [+49 89 123456]
Psee you,
Armin
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 13:49:05 -0500
From: Owen H. Morgan
Subject: Re: SmtpAuth updated to version 0.7
Howdy!
Rolf Vonau wrote (> ):
> At last the BCc bug, which Psion's "great"
> developers could or want not fix, is rendered
> harmless.
Will this work for those of use who don't need SmtpAuth for its other
functions too? I haven't really looked at this utility until now, as I
haven't had any problem sending e-mails, but maybe it's time to check it out.
Exactly what is involved in installing and configuring SmtpAuth on my 5mx and
Psiomond Mavo?
> I would stress also Marcus' speed.
> I asked him at 5th of March 1 a.m. conc. the bug
> fixing and he informed me at the same day at 5
> p.m. about the new version.
I seem to remember a certain Rolf who provides similar support for his
software...?
Owen
Thought for the day:
Sooner or later you must pay for your sins.
(Those who have already paid may disregard this rule.)
--
Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-28°05.31'N 17°06.53'W
San Sebastian, La Gomera, Canary Islands
http://home.no.net/naomij
Phone and SMS:
In Spain: +34 620520079
In Norway: +47 92053097
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 13:49:15 -0500
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: Blocked email, NetBook Pro, Crontab,
Answer to: Arent
Re.: Blocked email - I don't understand your message at all, but I had a
problem with my mailbox with www.mail.com. I forgot that some time ago - for
checking purpose - I stoped deleting the forwarded messages automatically and
I found last week or so that my mailbox was full with over 700 messages in it
<G>. I deleted them, reactivated the automatic deleting of forwarded messages
and AFAIK all is well again.
Answer to: Neil Thompson
Re.: NetBook Pro - I think most readers will be interested to hear about your
experience with the netBook Pro. Please give us an update in due course ?
Answer to: Andy Hayes
Re.: Crontab - I use Crontab to remind me every Monday night to put out the
dustbin, every workday morning at 4.00 am to set the Psion to the Agenda on
today, every day at 10.00 am and 03.00 pm to bring to the foreground my To-Do
jotter file to check what still needs to be done. I did not (yet) upgrade to
Patch no. 2 as I don't have the problem it solves.
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 15:46:12 -0500
From: Daniele Squarci
Subject: RE: MBook modem phone numbers
Melvin Woody wrote: >> I tried to set up the goldcard modem that I got with
the MBook - only to find that the setup screens insist upon including both
the country code and the area code in the dial up number, with the result
that it dials the wrong number, since neither of those codees is necessary in
order to reach my ISP.<<
Patience will get you to the Promised Land, Melvin!
In Control Panel you need to specify both the Internet properties (where you
specify your ISP's dial-up number including country and area codes) and the
Dialling properties (where you specify your location - can be many - and with
CTRL-E you adjust the various settings). With the correct selection, you will
get the Mbook to dial without area/country codes.
Also try out The Dialer from www.mcaleely.com. Excellent for on-the-fly
changes to phone numbers.
Ciao
Daniele Squarci
Italy
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 17:09:32 -0500
From: Keith Giles
Subject: Re: CronTab/FastBackup
Andy Hayes wrote:
> Crontab worked for me before patch2 and continues to work
> afterwards! Very good! What are other people using CronTab for?
The new CronTab doesn't work for me with App/Doc, only with Macro.
The only use I would have for CronTab would be to run FastBackup. In
trying to get it to work, I ended up uninstalling/installing
FastBackup and now can't get FastBackup's "Backup (to)" location
changed to where I want it. Upon starting FB I answer No to the
question about creating D:\BackupOfC\. The next window still shows
that location.
From Help, it appears that with Backup in the Action box I should use
the Edit Action button to change the backup folder location. But all I
get is an error message, "Error-97: wrong number of arguments, Error
in FASTBACKUP\GUI". Tapping the Continue button (only option
available) brings me to a screen with the statement, "Press any key to
quit", and the program ends.
I've tried the Edit Action button with various "actions" in the Action
box, but all give the same result. I've also tried both the beginner
and advanced modes.
The simple-minded are very easily confused. What's a mother to do?
:-)
Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net
Thought For The Day: If you want to keep a friend, never suggest
what's wrong with his/her children.
All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 17:35:02 -0500
From: Christopher Marwood
Subject: Thanks
Hi all,
Just a quick thank you to Vlad for pointing out that T610 settings are the
same as the T68. It was the GPRS ones I was after and they are set out in a
doc on Mike McConnell's website (thanks again, Mike)
And thanks to Arent for pointing out a small error on my website!
Chris
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 18:40:29 -0500
From: Manuel Campos Galvan
Subject: Re: MBook Phone Numbers
Dear Melvin:
Go to control panel, Internet and then select the Internet carrier you are
using. Your next screen will include the telephone number. There is a box
there that should be unticked "smart dialing".
I have used psions now for 10 years, and I never quite understood how smart
dialing works, specially while traveling.
Regards,
Manuel Campos
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 18:41:03 -0500
From: Manuel Campos Galvan
Subject: Psion Connection Speed
Howdy! (borrowing from Owen):
Is there a program out there that would tell you the speed of the dialup
connection (either for the Pcmcia pod, the infrared modem or GPRS)?
I know NetstatRF on the Netbook tells you the speed of the wireless
connection, but would there be anything for dialup or GPRS? Perhaps a command
from the Comms application?
Regards,
Manuel Campos
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 19:52:38 -0500
From: Armin Podtschaske
Subject: Re: Dialling to Cologne / SMTP and EPOC mail
Re: Dialling to Cologne
To: Vlad
>> Do I get it right, that it is not possible to dial to Cologne, Germany from
>> Arizona, USA to listen if there is a com?
> You cannot access 019... numbers from abroad afaik.
The original mail was about dialing to Cologne (in Germany 0221 ... from
abroad +49 221 ...) and I guess that for the original writer it was not
impossible to dial to Cologne, but too expensive, but he said, it was not
possible.
To prove it, he just could dial the number and wait if it is answerd by a
modem. It would cost not more than a 5 second call to Germany.
And you CAN access 019... numbers from abroad.
I used the t-online number from abroad several times.
In my "Internet"-settings I use "Smart" dialling and entered nothing in the
aerea code:
"+49 [area] 191011"
Dialling from any location in Germany, this translates to "0191011".
Dialling from any location abroad, this translates to "+49 191011".
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Re: SMTP and EPOC mail
To: Antony
>> Why don't you use the SMTP of your POP3-provider?
>> I connect [...] via different providers [...] but always [...] use
>> the same mailbox setting of my freemail-provider with it's POP3 and SMTP.
> Some ISPs, including the one I use for pop3 mail, prevent use of their SMTP
server
> if your IP address is not within a specific domains range.
OK "Some" do it, but I want to make clear that not all email-providers do it
this way.
But ever so often, I hear that I _have_ to use the SMTP of the ISP.
No, I don't _have_ to, I _can_ if I _want_.
> This is so that only thier customers can use it instead of spammers
> and anyone else, who could overload it.
Blocking users by IP address is not very intelligent, as obviously they block
you as their customer as well if you connect from outside their IP-range.
In my opinion their intention is not blocking spammers (how can they block
them when they connect from inside the IP-range?), but blocking users which
choose a different (cheaper?) ISP to connect to the internet.
> If you know of an SMTP server I could use for all my connections
> that doesn't require authentication, I would be grateful if you post it
> for the benefit of us all.
I only know web.de (http://web.de) and GMX (www.gmx.de) (maybe www.gmx.net).
If they accept non-german customers, I don't know.
Of course both do require authentication, but they authenticate with "send
after POP". You have to check for new mails first (with password) before you
can send via their SMTP.
I would guess, that all Emailproviders who are not Internetprovider as well
will allow you to use their SMTP from everywhere. There will be differences
in the method of authentication. Until recently only SMTP after POP was
possible with our Psions, but with SMTPauth it is possible to use some other
SMTP's as well.
>> [sending via SMTP of] t-online in Germany
>> they will change the "From:" - address [...] to y-
address.
> No. That depends on your email settings in your email client not the SMTP
server
> [...] Example: -
> [...] account with an ISP called A.com. [email > [...] another account with ISP t-online [email > You then decide to send email from your client, setup wit> as the senders address, via t-onlines SMTP server.
> You would then have a senders address[...]
No, believe me (or Marcus): To send via t-online's SMTP you have to be
1. customer with an email address that they know, e2. connected to the internet vie them.
j3. You have to use emailprovider t-online AND ISP t-online at the same time.
Sending mail this way they delete the complete address in the From:-field
(the part before and the part after tand replace itI just sent a testmail with From: Test
via T-online to my web.de
account and received the mail as f(and not
> I suspect you would be required to authenticate your SMTP connection
> with account credentials, which is similar to what other ISPs do via
Address ranges.
> t-online could then use this account information to determine the email
address
> that matches and modify the email headers that way.
Yes and no.
Yes, they do use the account information, but no, they do not demand SMTP
authentication, they even do not demand POP3 authentication (you can let the
password fields empty or enter "aaa").
You connect via Internetprovider t-online and automaticly you can use your
mailbox of Mailprovider t-online.
Armi
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Date: 8 Mar 2004 20:03:49 -0500
From: Woody B
Subject: ABP on PC
I have several Psion ToDo projects -- 1. learn and use ABP (A Banking
Program) on the Psion and PC; 2. WiFi working on the Psion; 3. get the
Emulator working on the PC. I'm plowing my way through the startup of ABP on
the mBook, but would also like it working on the PC. Am I correct, there is
not a version of ABP for the Emulator? and the way to run on a PC is to
download Java and use JABP (the Java version of ABP) --? Anyone have
experience with this setup? And then to really twist the mind, can one
install Java on the Emulator, then install JABP for the Psion, also in the
Emulator? If possible how big a mess is that?
WoodyB
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