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Epoc Digest Thu, 10 Jun 2004 Volume 01 : Number 537

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Sent to: 772 subscribers

In today's Epoc Digest 10 messages:

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- Fonts, CF MBook to 5MX, Su7rfin' Psions,

- Re: Mail Archiving

- Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 536

- Web browsers on EPOC

- SMS from Austria.

- NEUON, Old Digests,

- Java / Mac / netPad

- Re: Macro5... It's Alive!

- Re: PsiGar5

- SD-CF, dead p7, keys, USB, WIFI

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Date: 7 Jun 2004 17:30:25 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Fonts, CF MBook to 5MX, Su7rfin' Psions,

Answer to: Korbinian Demmel

Re.: Fonts - Wel, another AAAHHHHHHH !!!!! I downloaded the Fontmachine onto my mBook and it said the program was expired and I could not add any fonts. Thought I'll start it anyhow, disabled the Fload program and did a soft reset. Well, for one reason or another the mBook got into a loop of resetting itself continuously and in the end I did a hard reset before finding out too late that opening the CF-card tray (all programs are on my CF-card) helped as well. Interestingly enough the mBook did not even ask for the file with the OS but automatically installed it straightaway. Now I would like to remove the Fontmachine program again but can't find how to remove it. Can someone please tell me which files I should remove ? The program does not appear on the Add/remove in the control panel and does not appear in the System\App folder. Thanks. I'll stick with the 3 fonts with Fload, it will do.

Answer to: Jim Watson-Gove

Re. CF MBook to 5MX - You wrote "but Itamar was so right". Well, to be right is one thing, to do it yourself another. Of course I got caught out today with my back-up older than just a few days (abt. 1 week). Knowing is one thing, warning other another, but doing it yourself .... ah .... now that would be really clever <BG>.

Answer to: Steve Hodgson

Re. Su7rfin' Psions - Well, even with my mBook (faster processor than S7) and my ADSL (broadband) connection I still find it cumbersome and difficult to surf with the mBook and only do it in "emergency" cases. Just too many problems.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 7 Jun 2004 19:33:06 +0100

From: Jack

Subject: Re: Mail Archiving

To: Alan Morris

<<<One limitation .... is printing ... data files. ... the To: From: etc titles are lost when copying from data files.>>>

Printing Range "Current file" (single entry) via "General" to "File".txt

it did the job for me

Jack

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Date: 7 Jun 2004 20:26:10 +0100

From: Gianluca Gallino

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 536

To: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Mail Archiving

Ciao Alan,

>>>I also use SaveMail, but have many more, but smaller files. The ability to search every data box would be very useful. Are you able to publish the macro?<<<

Sure I will, even if I understand this is the dummiest procedure around... so take as it is, just an example.

my level is still below the beginner course... so there must be an easier way to reaching the point...

BTW, here it is...

foreword: I use Macro5 for controlling all this and I have all the .box files stored in one single folder in order to have them under control.

1) in macro5 I have edited a shortcut as a cliptext which I named "search"

let's assume that this shortcut is positioned in the letter A.

as a result, I digit the Fn+n keys and press the a key

at this point I enter the word I am looking for

2) now I digit the Fn+n keys and press the b key

b is actually the shortcut letter which allow for launching the following macro (which is written in a "program" file, which is a "*.opl" file actually.

PROC Macro:

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\archivio.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\07_2003.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\09_2003.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\10_2003.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\11_2003.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\12_2003.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\1_2004.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\2_2004.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\3_2004.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\4_2004.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\5_2004.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\5_2004.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\4_2004.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\3_2004.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\2_2004.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\1_2004.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\12_2003.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\11_2003.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\10_2003.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\09_2003.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\07_2003.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\archivio.box")

SendPenDrag:(225,36)

SendPenUp:(225,36)

SendKey:("Ctrl+v")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\07_2003.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\09_2003.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\10_2003.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\11_2003.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\12_2003.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\1_2004.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\2_2004.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\3_2004.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\4_2004.box")

FgDoc%:("D:\Documents\archivi\5_2004.box")

ENDP

as you certainly know, this .opl file needs to be "translated" into an .opo file first and than called from Macro5 or alternative macro launchers.

I hope that it is clear enough.

>>>One limitation of SaveMail is printing out e-mails saved in data files. Has anyone done a macro for extracting one or all e-mails from a data file and putting it (them) into a Word file using the same format as SaveMail uses?<<<

I would like to have such a thing myself...

>>>I often need to send a copy of a saved e-mail, but the To: From: etc titles are lost when copying from data files.<<<

I simply copy the data.box content, but I wish I could have a more elegant solution such as the one you are asking for...

anybody willing to help?

cheers

gianluca

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Date: 7 Jun 2004 22:02:35 +0100

From: Kevin Thorne

Subject: Web browsers on EPOC

Itamar Engelsman wrote:

<Re.: Opera - I think that not many people use their Psions to surf the web at all. Whatever program you use, it is slow and a lot of pages will not open anyhow. I use it only in "emergency" cases when on the road, which has been once or twice in many years. I think the experience of Andy Hayes confirms this is not a tool for surfing the web (although others probably have done so for many years without problems).>

I've only used an EPOC (or previously a SIBO) device since I started using computers more than a decade ago and have always been proud that I never needed to resort to a PC for anything. Unfortunately, as you mention above, I believe I am finally coming to the end of the road as far as Opera or Web go. Within the last couple of years many more sites are becoming inaccessible on my S7 so, at least for my surfing requirements anyway, I may finally have to give in and get a machine that can deal with these modern complex sites and load the pages at a decent speed. Such a shame that the user and memory friendly Web could not have been further developed to deal with these modern sites.

Regards

Kevin Thorne

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Date: 7 Jun 2004 22:35:00 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: SMS from Austria.

HI.

To the person who sent me an SMS from Austria a couple of days ago. Could you please re-send your e-mail address? I had a crash and lost a couple of weeks worth of e-mails and SMS messages.

Don't ask... :o(

Owen

Thought for the day:

Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out.

At ancAnfi del Mar de Gran Canaria

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311

http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Spain: +34 620520079

In Norway: +47 92053097

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Date: 8 Jun 2004 17:29:21 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: NEUON, Old Digests,

Answer to: Will Green

Re.: NEUON - Are they still active at all ? As to your remark about our messages, we only send this message in the digest and not to the subscriber. We hope that the subscriber, missing his digests, will have a look at the website of the digest and find this message via the digests stored on the website. Once mail bounces from an email address, there is no other way for us to contact anyone. If there is no answer after the one week period, in general we unsubscribe the subscriber. We keep a database of all returned digests per subscriber so if anyone would complain we will have full details to give him/her.

Answer to: j parker

Re. Old Digests - Hold on to them a while longer, we will check.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 8 Jun 2004 20:26:39 +0100

From: Andy Hayes

Subject: Java / Mac / netPad

Marcus. Thanks for not only explaining the steps required to compile the Java source file, but then compiling and making the files available. Absolutely brilliant for us with no PC (or Mac!). Whats more - it works! I expected nothing less though. Once again, many thanks

No sign of the Mac Powerbook yet. I am told that the wait wil be worth it. l am afraid that I was one of those in the military who used to enjoy having a poke at The System. It was not unusual to have to run somewhere and on arrival to find that you had to wait for longer then it would have taken for you to just walk to wherever it was that you had run. I was one of those wags, that when I saw it happen to a group of soldiers, I would wait until I could see that they were hanging around for someone to get organised, then I would bellow, from a long distance away, "you lot, don't just stand there, hurry up and wait". Dealing with Apple has felt like this again.

A call was waiting on my answerphone when I got home tonight. Teklogix were admitting that there was a comms problem on the netPad and that it was on its way to France to get fixed. God only knows how much the repair will cost.

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Date: 8 Jun 2004 21:31:42 +0100

From: Martin Guthrie

Subject: Re: Macro5... It's Alive!

Reply to: Alan Morris

> This is great news Martin. On every EPOC machine I always

> first install Macro5 and then Chadis.

> But it's not so good on my Revo+. I look forward to a new

> version that works fully on a Revo.

I'm working on it right now Alan. Should be doing some beta tests in the next few weeks.

Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

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www.pscience5.net

www.freepoc.org

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Date: 8 Jun 2004 22:39:53 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: PsiGar5

Chris S Handley wrote:-

> Thanks for pointing out PsiGar5, but it doesn't match my

> criteria of being a FREEWARE Garmin waypoint program, since

> it is shareware :-(

> Though I suppose the fee of £15 isn't much, so I if there is

> no other solution, and I can't be bothered to write my own

> solution, then I might well pay it...

Sorry Chris, as you say not freeware. It was the second shareware app I bought for my 3a (Mapper3a was the first) and it's been worth every penny for me.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 9 Jun 2004 11:11:19 +0100

From: robertsont

Subject: SD-CF, dead p7, keys, USB, WIFI

Dear all,

I would like to be able to view and send email image files straight from my digital camera's SD card on my psion 7. Does anyone know if this is possible? The only CF to SD adapters i have found require that the SD card protrudes from the adapter, this is obviously of no use for the 7 as it has a CF tray. Is it possible to read files direct from the PCMCIA port? i.e. could i connect my SD card into my CF to SD card adapter and then connect this with a CF to PCMCIA adapter and be able to read the files!?

Secondly, I have a psion netbook that seems to be having problems. on start up (all batteries just inserted) I simply get a blank screen, no request for the bootable CF. It is not possible to turn the machine off, i have to remove the batteries to do this. Any ideas?

Thirdly, does anyone know how p7 keys connect to the machine? one end of the spacebar has come unstuck - is this critical? Can keys be safely removed without damaging them?

Is it possible to connect a USB device to the p7? Through the PCMCIA slot?

Lastly, and this has probably been asked already, but has anyone had any success using WIFI with a P7/Netbook? Is there any literature on this?