-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tips for Posting to the Digest and how to unsubscribe
at the end of the Digest
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Epoc Digest Tue, 06 Jul 2004 Volume 01 : Number 555
************************************************************************
Sent to: 757 subscribers
In today's Epoc Digest 12 messages:
==============================
- Polish Translator
- Re: Typos
- RE: Epoc Digest V1 # 542: Re: Opera vs. Web , Opera and web pages,USB
- netBook for Sale
- CF brand recommendations?
- Shuffling Savemail Archives
- Re: Backup with low battery
- RE: Darryl Kempster
- TomTom CityMaps, Email setup, TomTom Maps,
- Nokia takes on Microsoft in mobile laptop market
- Re: Navigator in
- Restore C drive via email
*++++++++++&
Date: 4 Jul 2004 14:17:32 +0700
From: Peter Julian & Associates
Subject: Polish Translator
Hello all,
Has anyone downloaded previously the shareware app 'Language Teacher
English-Polish'? Its by Ectaco.Inc.
I've tried the links at www.psionplace.com but they are broken.
If someone has the shareware app, I'd be grateful of a copy, then I can
register it individually. Many thanks / dziekuje!
regards
Peter
--
Peter McCafferty, Peter Julian & Associates, Architects
6-8 Tiverton Street, London, SE1 6NZ, UK.
Tel: +44 (0) 20 72 34 01 12
Fax: +44 (0) 87 00 55 78 12
*++++++++++&
Date: 4 Jul 2004 15:51:47 +0700
From: Wong Koi Hin
Subject: Re: Typos
Reply to: Phil Aypee
Dear Phil,
PA>>But it does, in an extremely good-natured way, show that we can all make
such silly mistakes. Certainly I have made many.
PA>>Apparently it's good nettiquette to ignore such mistakes unless there is
good reason not to. It doesn't apply in this case, that I realise, but I do
know that elsewhere such criticism has caused offence, even when meant kindly.
I think Euan was simply responding to Steve Litchfield's request which I
quote below:
"If anyone would like to correct anything on
http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/historyofpsion.htm
then feel free! I've attempted an update on my old article from Palmtop. See
what you think."
Apparently Mr Litchfield has corrected the error as well. While it is one
thing to be tolerant of transient communications (pardon my poor command of
the English language and grammar), its quite another to leave alone a known
errata in an electronic article, which can be corrected easily and quickly.
Nice article by the way, although I already knew most of the story. Kudos to
Euan for spotting the typo, I honestly did not see it the first time.
Warm regards,
Koi Hin
*++++++++++&
Date: 4 Jul 2004 18:16:24 +0700
From: Arent Kits van Heijningen
Subject: RE: Epoc Digest V1 # 542: Re: Opera vs. Web , Opera and web pages,USB
On: 15 Jun 2004 17:07:17 +0000
Jakfish wrote about :
Opera vs. Web
>>So while both browsers have their troubles, is there a consensus about
speed?Which is faster for accessing nonsecure sites?<<
Web is faster , Opera can be slow , even on a device with a much faster CPU
than a 5mx/Mako/Revo
I have used Opera on a Nokia 6600 Symbian phone and found it pretty decent
,yes it does take its time(i.e. ages) to render complex pages(I have upgraded
to 6.20 now and I found it better than 6.10 , no spontaneous reboots now )
k
On: 16 Jun 2004 03:47:47 +0000
Eric Lindsay wrote about:
Opera and web pages, USB
>>One question you haven't answered is whether the sites that are failing are
in fact correctly written? (Point their URL to validator.w3.org to
check).
That said, Opera on all platforms seems to be a memory hog,
and simply fails to release as much memory as I think it should. It is the
least reliable program I've ever continued to use extensively under Windows
(I've been using it since v3).<<
Now that I have my BTAP up and running I could put Opera through its paces (
Vs 6.10 on SymbOS-32 R7.0 S/S60/Nokia 6600 firmware V 34.2.1 16-10-03 ) and
found it pretty stable ( down to 350 k of free memory of a total of 16 megs .
)
Of course Web pages look funny (sometimes ) or take forever to render ( most
of the time ) but apart from that there are no serious issues
There's an alternative , however : NetFront , wich has more consistent
behaviour than Opera and wich I have on my N-Gage
as well on my PEG-UX 50
Even if the memory leak issues have been adressed , both are prodigious
consumers of memory and you have to live with the occasional spontaneous
rebootI have NetFront also on my Clie (peg-ux 50) and found it more stable
there (32 megs of ram as opposed to 16 on the phones)
The verdict : The two major browsers for the Arm platform have come a long
way towards reaching compatibility with todays web but device limitations and
sloppy coding (causing many pages to take ages to load or even spontaneous
reboots ) make the experience less than rewarding
> From: robertsont
>>USB is a master slave protocol, which expects a single master device
(typically a Windows PC) and a bunch of peripheral (slave) devices like
printers, plotters, digital cameras. So typically you can get a USB to
whatever adaptor that plugs into a PC, and connects to a fairly dumb
non-USB peripheral (and comes with software to fake the connection).
However you typically can't go from a USB peripheral to a controller that
doesn't already have USB. So you can go from say Windows PC with USB, and
a USB converter to a parallel printer, or a serial connection digital camera,
or a serial GPS system. However you generally can't
use say a USB printer with a non-USB computer. The non-USB computer is
supposed to be controlling the printer via USB.<<
It is now possible to link USB peripherals to a PDA/Smartphone that only has
an USB client port , provided it has a fully supported expansion card slot or
embedded BT/IRCOMM/WiFi
This requires some form of bridging device that comes in the form of some
bland nondescript plastic or sheet metal box , containing an embedded PC or
PDA platform , running linux or bsd
*++++++++++&
Date: 4 Jul 2004 18:37:29 +0700
From: Andy Hayes
Subject: netBook for Sale
Hi all
I am settling into life with a Mac Powerbook and finding alternatives to the
most important apps that I used on my netBook, so it is time to start waving
a fond farewell to the world of EPOC.
The first item to go is a genuine UK netBook. I bought this from a list
member who had used it for about 10 hours. I have used it for a lot
more than that, but it is in perfect condition. It has the 32mb upgrade chip
fitted. It will come with a power supply. The CF that came with it is
currently in Sussex, so hopefully my sometimes reliable son will
send it up here prior to me sending the netBook to the buyer, but it will be
part of the sale whatever. So will the original netBook CD
which includes PsiWin and an electronic netBook manual. Also included will be
a random Palmtop CD and a PsiWin cable mad by Chris Archer of
www.serialleads.co.uk fame. Price is 250 ukp including post and packaging
by the slowest and cheapest method to any UK address. If you want me to send
by registered post add 10 ukp.
Email meif you want it. I am not looking for
offers. Payment to be by electronic transfer to my Abbey National account, or
UK cheque, which will have to clear first, or cash in a registered envelope.
First come first served.
Thanks
Andy Hayes
*++++++++++&
Date: 4 Jul 2004 19:54:26 +0700
From: Edward Hasbrouck
Subject: CF brand recommendations?
I know this is a perennial topic, but... I've recently purchased a (used)
5mx, and the generic CF card (originally purchased for a digital camera) I've
been using in my MalayBook suffers the usual corruption problems.
I've alos had problems with the same CF card in my Lexar USB reader, but I
can't tell whether the problem is the card or the reader.
I've read the FAQ, various Web sites, and this digest, and my head is
spinning from contradictory advice. Simpletech cards are fast, Simpletech
cards are slow. Toshiba controller good, Toshiba controller bad. Etc.
The best advice seems to be, "test in your device," but I can't find anyone
who will let me. You break the blister pack, you've bought it.
What's a poor boy to do? I'm not overly concerned with speed (should I
be?) I'm *much* more concerned with reliability. I mostly want to be
able to maximize working memory for large programs (I post to a blog that
requires functionality available only in GrandRapid, not Opera -- I am
using GR on 5MX and MalayBook, if anyone needs a beta tester) by
installing a lot of large programs on the CF. And I want to be able reliably
copy CF backups to and form a desktop computer (which corrupts
the CF card with my current card and reader).
SimpleTech cards seem consistently to be described as the most reliable, and
are cheap, but some people say ther are very slow. Should I care, if I'm
mostly using the CF for propgram storage? Will it take 5 minutes to launch a
big app from a 256MB CF?
The EPOC FAQ says Dane-Elec cards are "Cheap, fast, perfect on 5mx, but
unable to write warnings on Netbook". What is the symptom of "unable to
write warnings on Netbook"? Corrupt card? Or?
Any recommendation of a USA source of 128MB or 256MB card that's cheap,
adequately fast, and tested in both 5MX and netBook would be welcomed.
----------------
Edward Hasbrouck
<http://hasbrouck.org>
+1-415-824-0214
*++++++++++&
Date: 5 Jul 2004 09:05:39 +0700
From: ealasaidandsimon
Subject: Shuffling Savemail Archives
Hello all,
we use savemail a lot - at least my wife does, I am much less organised, and
tend to wait till the end of the year then create one huge annual savemail
archive!
She wanted to know how to move one single record from one archive file to
another. We could not see a way to do this simply using the built in Data
programme's menus. The only solution seemed to be to copy the mesage (ctrl-A)
then laboriously paste it into all the separate fields of the second file
before deleting it from the first.
Surely this would be worth automating, either as part of Savemail or as a
stand-alone macro? Can anyone help?
Simon
*++++++++++&
Date: 5 Jul 2004 13:56:17 +0700
From: Chris S Handley
Subject: Re: Backup with low battery
Hello Armin,
Armin Podtschaske wrote:
>> FastBackup *does* check the battery level [...].
>> However [...] I do not know what battery level below which
>> disk corruption can occur
>
> Which levels do you actually use?
The main program warns if the battery status is not "Good", while the macro
avoids backing-up if the battery status is less than "Low" (i.e. it is
"Very low"). Since I no-longer use my Psion5, I can't remember what they
translate to in actual usage.
> How about making them user-adjustable?
That shouldn't be necessary in theory, since there should be a specific level
above which there won't be problems. I have been hoping (so far in vain)
that someone would tell me the right level, then there wouldn't be
the problem.
Regards,
Chris Handley
*++++++++++&
Date: 5 Jul 2004 17:09:31 +0700
From: Gary Jenkinson
Subject: RE: Darryl Kempster
Hi,
I've received the following information in answer to my email to
Darryl'semployers. I intend to follow Darryl's family's wishes and send them a
cheque on Friday for the amount that I have received up to then.
I trust this meets with the approval of all those who sent donations?
Pleaselet me know before Friday if you do not wish your donation to be
included inthe cheque to Greenpeace. If I haven't heard back from anyone by
then, bydefault I will assume I have everyone's agreement.
Kind regards,
Gary Jenkinson
email: garyjenkinson AT email DOT com
Tel/Fax/Ansaphone: +44 (0) 2476 361242
Mobile: +44 (0) 7771 635764
-----Original Message-----
From: phil udSent: Monday, July 05, 2004 12:28 PM
To: garyjenkinson
Subject: Fwd: Re: Darryl's Funeral
Gary,
Bianca at Unicorn passed on your email to me regarding the sad loss of
ourdear friend Darryl. Hopefully the following will help.
Phil
From: MGTRYON
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:48:22 EDT
Subject: Re: Darryl's Funeral
To: (Removed)
This is a copy of what i have posted on the NMA website. Most of the
detailscome from Darryl's sister Alison.
This topic has been started only for the purpose of ease of access to
thedetails and directions for Darryl's funeral, and is not intended for reply
or message posting. Please use the existing thread to Darryl for this.
Darryl will be buried on WEDNESDAY 7 JULY at 2pm. All friends and familyare
welcome.
The burial site address is;
Olney Green Burial Ground
Yardley Road
OlneyBucks MK 46 5EH
This is an eco friendly burial site that we believe Darryl would have liked.
www.thegreenburialcompany.plc.uk/olney.html
You are welcome to place a note (fully recyclable of course) in the grave,we
will also have wildflowers and earth.
No flowers please. We believe Darryl would have preferred that you
donatemoney to one of the charities he supported.
May we suggest :
GREENPEACE
Support Services Dept
Greenpeace UK
Cannonbury Villas
London N1 2PN
Please indicate IN MEMORY OF DARRYL KEMPSTER
DIRECTIONS:
1) M1 junction 14
2) Follow signs to NEWPORT PAGNALL on the 509.
3) Take the NEWPORT PAGNALL BYPASS.
4) Follow signs to OLNEY, Wellingborough and Edmonton
5) Y ou will come through OLNEY. Please note the BULL
PUB on your left by the central market place - this is
where the reception will be afterwards.
6) Carry on though the centre of the village until
you reach THE CASTLE PUB on your right - road forks
here
7) Take the left fork which is signposted to the
GREEN BURIAL GROUND at the bottom.
8) Go straight over the roundabout and approx 1 mile
up you will see THE GREEN BURIAL GROUND clearly
signposted.
9) Please drive in.
Thank you to all those that have emailed me to let me know that you
arecoming, this has been invaluable in helping us assess the numbers
involvedfor organisational purposes etc.
If anyone has any questions or queries feel free to emand I will do my best to answer them.
*++++++++++&
Date: 5 Jul 2004 17:15:44 +0700
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: TomTom CityMaps, Email setup, TomTom Maps,
Answer to: vlad a
Re.: TomTom CityMaps - You are right, althoug when I checked at the time with
TomTom in the Netherlands (speaking the language) they told me there was
hardly any difference between that version and the Streetplanner 2000
or Millenium or whatever it was called. All the newer versions since that one
were not for EPOC anymore. The later version, called Navigator, automatically
calculated a new rout when you went wrong, not so Citymaps.
Answer to: Neil Thompson
Re.: Email setup - Most certainly possible. I always send the digest out with
the smtp of Eclipse while using the Freeserve account for POP3. Once
coonected to the internet you can open any POP3 account.
Answer to: Bob
Re.: TomTom Maps - At the time I bought the upgrade CD. Indeed, TomTom do not
have any EPOC programs anymore, although as indicated earlier their
maps still work for EPOC.
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
*++++++++++&
Date: 5 Jul 2004 21:31:12 +0700
From: Alan Morris
Subject: Nokia takes on Microsoft in mobile laptop market
That's a headline in today's Microscope, a PC trade weekly journal. They
report that a 'senior source at Nokia' has said that Nokia are trialling a
sub-notebook, designed for mobile wire-less Internet access.
It has many advantages over a traditional Windows laptop (now that's not too
difficult is it!) and is powered by Nokia's Series 60 software running on the
Symbian OS. The notebook has a far longer battery life than a Windows
laptop. The OS has a smaller footprint than Windows, is more
robust and boots up instantly, while shutting down as fast while saving data.
Nokia also believes that it's software is less prone to crashes than Windows.
An Intel spokesman is reported as saying that consumers will be tempted to
buy it for their own use but expects that corporations will be more likely to
buy Microsoft as it's software supports security protocols.
This sounds much like an updated EPOC netBook, but I'm a bit lost about the
security protocols from Microsoft that are the prime perpetuator of virus
laden e-mails.
We can live in hope.
I've not followed the versions after ER5, so could someone please explain in
a few words the differences of the various later versions, such as
Series 60.
--
Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.
*++++++++++&
Date: 5 Jul 2004 21:31:44 +0700
From: Alan Morris
Subject: Re: Navigator in
Itamar Engelsman wrote:-
> However, the 2610 has been replaced by the 2620 and costs
> around 1,000.- pounds in the UK. That is slightly over my
> budget
The 2620 has not replaced the 2610. It's the third in the series. One could
say that the 2610 is the basic model. The 2650 uses external vehicle mounted
sensors, which are used during GPS signal loss, to continue to plot position;
ie dead reckoning.
The 2620 has a built-in hard disk drive. To many this will be an improvement
over the 2610 as my understanding is that maps are already on this drive.
But to many on this list the ability to install their choice
of maps on different CF cards, would make the 2610 their preferred
choice. It's definitely my choice.
The 2620 uses a modified MagicStor 2Gb CF hard drive, but it's not removable,
so if it fails - tough. But plugged into a 2610, it could be replaced. As a
digital photographer, you will probably have heard that CF hard drives in
cameras are possibly venerable to mechanical shock.
The 2610 being cheaper than the 2620, it could just be in your budget.
I bought my eMap from a company in Bedford who sell at discount, but I don't
know if they are the cheapest now. I bought in person at a Land
Rover show (the next is in a fortnight's time, so I will see him
again. Some folk I would never buy from, due to their attitude etc., however
I liked this person. I might buy a 2610 from him, if the price is good when
I see him next.
Have a look at www.offroadstore.co.uk . 01234 266553 He trades as H S
Elmac, but has just merged with Patriot Roof Racks. I've not looked at his
web site for sometime so I don't know what it's like now.
--
Alan R Morris, G4ENS.
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.
Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.
*++++++++++&
Date: 6 Jul 2004 02:13:27 +0700
From: Howard weissman
Subject: Restore C drive via email
<lurk mode off>
Had a major reset of my 5mx, effectively resetting my device. I do have a
backup on the D drive.
The problen- everything is affected by zExe.
In order to unzip the C drive backup, I need to replace the login details for
Earthlink. The support for Earthlink is unfamiliar with the device, and is
unable to supply the needed details.
Thanks from NYC, USA
*++++++++++&
************************************************************************
Website :
http://www.psioneering.co.uk**************************************************
**********************
***** Tips for Posting to the Digest *****
1 - Never send the previous Digest with your reply !!!
2 - Remember to write a meaningful Subject Line [and do
not repeat the subject text of the digest].
3 - Avoid sending HTML ("rich email") or MIME encoded,
it's not ASCII text. The HTML attachment will blow up
your email and increase the download time 3 times or
more.
4. Send your messages to the above email address with the
following in the subject field:
- a meaningfull subject description for your messages
- (UN)SUBSCRIBE to join or leave the digest
- ADMIN for all other matters for the digest team
5. How to Unsubscribe/Subscribe from the Epoc Digest:
Send a message with in
the subject line the word SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE
and no text in the message. Only messages (un)subscribing
the email message in the "From" line will be accepted
(you cannot unsubscribe someone
else).------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------
You've Been Reading the Epoc
Digest------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------7
To reply or to send your own messages,
subscribe by sending an email to
with SUBSCRIBE in the subject.