- Re: Various P910

- information wanted re FAX string

- Neuon Registrations

- Word and RTF

Date: 30 Oct 2004 22:30:03 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Various P910

Dear Itamar,

<< I transfered my phonebook from the T610 by copying it to the SIM card and than on the P910 copying it back from the SIM card into the phonebook on the phone >>

The transfer does, indeed, work but not the way you intended. SIM cards still store numbers the 'old way' (one number per name) while modern phones allow you to store more than one number per name internally. Transfer from internal to SIM card and the only thing the T610 can do
is to split the numbers out. That is:

Rolf - Home number
      - Work number

in internal storage is turned into

Rolf - Home number
Rolf - Work number

on the SIM card. Which makes it difficult for the P910 to reconstitute what you had on the T610. Do these two numbers now belong to the same person or is it that you know two people called Rolf? An additional difficulty is that you can use more characters for a name internally that you can on a SIM card. What you get can be similar to the following. The two entries:

Royal Society for the Protection of Birds - Number
Royal Society for the Preservation of Ancient Buildings - Number

in internal storage are turned into

Royal Society for the Pr - Number
Royal Society for the Pr - Number

on the SIM card. Which prevents the P910 from 'knowing' that these are the numbers of two different royal societies. Then there's the possibility of knowing two people with the same name but working for different companies. Like a David Jones who works for Royal Dutch Shell and a David Jones who's the proprietor of the Riverside Bookstore (all ficticious). Think what happens when you have a home, work, mobile and fax number for both of them.

<< If there is a better way, please let the digest know for future reference for other subscribers >>

In one word : Synchronisation. Like your T610, most phones targeted at business people store complete contacts (name, company, address, etc.) rather than a name plus one or more numbers. They tend to be supplied complete with software to synchronise the contacts store on the phone with Microsoft Outlook (or other) and/or make the synchronisation software available for download from their web site. And when a phone manufacturer doesn't supply such a synchroniser there are a third-party alternatives. It's synchronisation which allows you to retain the storage structure of your T610, even when you only use name plus
number(s), as Outlook is using the same structure.

As an aside, I don't understand why you're using the P910's Contacts application for names and numbers while storing your address details in two HandyData files, one for business and one for private contacts. Surely the idea behind smartphones is that you don't have the same information in multiple locations. Like you had with the combination of Psion and mobile phone. Store everything in Contacts and you have all the information in a single location. And you can use each and every phone number for dialling, mobile number for dialling, SMS and MMS, e-mail address for e-mailing and site URL for web browsing. While Contacts' categories allows you to separate business contacts from private contacts. Select the 'Business' category and you only see your business contacts on screen. It also saves you the hassle of getting data in and out of HandyData as Contacts is easily synchronised with PC or Mac.

<< The T610 links voice commands to the user, and if you have more than one phone number for that user (Work and Home) you than have to specify that before it will dial out. The P910 is better in that it llinks the voice command to each number, on the other hand it means you need to remember which command you gave to each number ..... >>

Well, if I understand you correctly, the T610-method is more economical because voice commands do eat memory for breakfast, so to speak. Learn the T610 to recognise the voice commands for Home, Work and Mobile and you only need it to learn the voice commands for individual people. Say that you use voice-dialing for 10 people who all have a home, work and mobile number and the T610-method results in it having 13 voice
commands in memory. That is, 10 commands for the persons in question plus 3 commands for Home, Work and Mobile. Speak "Bob" followed by "Home" and you'll get Bob on his home number. The P910-method of using one command per number results in it having to store 30 voice commands for these 10 people.

Whether the T610-method is better in the practical sense depends how extensively you're going to use voice-dialing and how much memory you have available. Most mobile phone users aren't going to attach a voice command to each and every person/number in their phonebook. They're going to use the voice-dialing feature for a relatively small number of people/numbers. When the mobile phone in question, P910 or other, has a few MByte of memory the ease of using a single voice-command can outweigh the aspect of economical command storage.

<< Ringtones I understand, but I am not as "internet wise" as some others and search the internet that much. I liked very much the oldfashioned ring tone on my T610. Can I copy that to my P910 ?  How ?
>>

I doubt it because the P910 uses sound files (WAV, AIF and MP3) as well as MIDI files for its ringtones. In other words, industry standard formats. While most mobile phone manufacturers use their own format/notation for their standard (polyphonic) ringtones. When you're very fond of your T610 ringtone it might be a good idea to record it (PC, sound card and microphone), to turn the recording into a WAV or
MP3 file and to transfer the resulting file to the P910.

By the way, I mentioned that I use the theme from the 1968 BBC radio play of Lord of the Rings as my ringtone. I have the 14-CD set (BBC Radio Collection ISBN 0-563-38812-9 for those who are interested) which I bought when on holiday in Durham. CD no. 14 has the music of the series as a number of set pieces. What I did was to 'rip' the theme music from the CD onto my PC and to translate the CD-format sound file into one my P800 can handle.

<< "Go to date" function you answered "It's easy to enter dates using a Keyboard - simply type the numbers". I've lost you here, at what stage do you type in these numbers ? >>

It was a general comment - when you have a Go To Date function you'll get a dialog box on screen with a date entry field. You can enter dates very quickly when your device has a keyboard, like a Psion. Type "12052007" and you've entered May 12, 2007. You can enter the same numbers on a keypad. However, what happens when you close the flip of a P800 or P900 - you leave the application. You can use handwriting recognition but, as you're well aware, that's more error prone than using a keyboard (I always have difficulties with the number 2). The alternative is to use the on-screen keyboard or a date entry field with so-called 'spinners' - tap and hold and a number will be incremented or decremented. The disadvantage of spinners is that you tend to overshoot or undershoot the number you want to have, so that you need to go backwards/forwards again. Finally, you can go to a date by switching to the month view, scrolling through the months and tapping the right
date. My impression is that, given the above options, selection by using the month view is generally quicker and less error sensitive.

<< Untimed entries, incorrect, the NX73V diary also has untimed entries
>>

Incorrect again as I clearly mentioned that Agenda was the only one I KNOW OF (my emphasis) that has untimed entries. In other words, I
didn't say that Agenda is the only one.

<< As to Tasks you wrote "allow people to display tasks in Calendar on a per-task basis". How do you choose whether a task should be displayed in the Calendar or not ? >>

1) Activate the Tasks application
2) Tap on a task so that you get the task entry/details screen,
3) Tap 'Tasks' on the menu bar,
4) Tap 'Move to Calendar',
and,
5) The task is now turned into a reminder in Calendar.

Reminders can be moved to Task by:
1) Activate the Calendar application
2) Tap on a reminder so that you get the reminder entry/details screen, 3) Tap 'Calendar' on the menu bar,
4) Tap 'Move to Tasks',
and,
5) The reminder is now turned into a task in Tasks.

<< You also wrote "Those who mention the report on each day, right up to the 20th" but misunderstood me ... >>

Not really a misunderstanding as it's all a question of how you want an electronic diary to behave. You're thinking about missing a task's due date and like to be reminded that you've missed it. Displaying those tasks that haven't been completed after their due dates does that. It's equally plausible for you to have completed this task (well) before its due date. Displaying your tasks in the diary before their due dates
then allows you to select the task in question and sign it off as completed.

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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

Date: 31 Oct 2004 08:45:29 +0100
From: dd.white <address truncated>
Subject: information wanted re FAX string

I have a Psion 7 using a Dacom Gold Card Modem
I use e-mail regularly with no difficulty  but cannot get the FAX to work.

I realise that i have no data inititiation string

At present the strings read:-
AT&F
empty
Auto

What should the empty line read. Are there any other factors.

I know it should work as it did at one time but the data line has been lost

I am also troubled by excess spam. Any suggestions

Thanks

D.D.White  (dd.whit<address truncated>style="color:#0000FF">

Date: 31 Oct 2004 11:33:48 +0100
From: Kim Smith <address truncated>
Subject: Neuon Registrations

To All,

Have any of the members experienced this problem with Neuon?   I have used their excellent nConvert program and would endorse its usefulness as a working tool. (I have no connection with the company!)

However, upon registering the program the difficulties began:  Paying for the program was a cinch.  Got my receipt, and then shortly after, my registration code.  When I entered the code I got an "Invalid Code" message, so I decided to contact the authors for a solution.

The website's links do not work, their email addresses for support, contacts etc, are returned to my address as "undeliverable" by the System Administrator.  In short, how do I contact them to resolve my problem?

I would be interested to hear feedback or general comments regarding my dilemma.

Psionara!


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Kim Smith

Tel & Fax: 020 7272 2008
Mobile: 07966 172 357

Date: 31 Oct 2004 11:57:52 +0100
From: Philip S.Adkins Potter <address truncated>
Subject: Word and RTF

Hi Folks,

Ian, I agree about RTF.

But the RTF option was originally a free add-on from Psion. On my old 3a, in the WDR directory, were Wl$rtf.dyl and Ws$rtf.dyl which it needed to read/write RTF.  Since RTF is a save option on my 3c(s) and 3mx they probably have those files in ROM - my fileviewer that reads the ROM isn't on my 3c right now (and the others are in storage).

Incidentally, for anyone who doesn't know, RTF = Rich Text Format, a cross-platform format that M's**t kept altering as if it were their own. They probably still do!

Happy days,
Phil.

"Reality is that which,
when you stop believing in it,
doesn't go away."