- For Itamar and Owen

- Re: For Chris, TubeRoute, Palmtop

- Re: Transfering of DATA files to CONTACTS;p910

- Re: The Digest V1 # 629

- Re Data to Contacts

- Various Ramblings.

- netBook screen calibration errors

- Nokia 7710

- For Itamar and Owen

- SE phone holder, TubeRoute, CopyAnywhere, Nokia's,

- Handy Day 2004/2005

- AW: For Chris, TubeRoute, Palmtop

- Re: Check your text

- Re: Navigating Without Touchscreen

- Psion backups

- Nokia 9500/7710 replacing Psion (was For Chris, TubeRoute, Palmtop)

- q about batteries

- Screen fading, then coming back

Date: 5 Nov 2004 07:00:00 +0000
From: Steve Litchfield <address truncated>
Subject: For Itamar and Owen

Itamar:

Best to export and then import into Handy Databank - it's virtually a clone of Psion Data.

Owen:

Most of the software you list (especially my beloved OPL) is available in some form or other for Series 80. And if cost is an issue, do what
I've done and get a second hand 9210i for £100 or so. And I bet the TR guys would upgrade you from the Psion version to the 9210 one for a nominal upgrade fee. ____________________________________________________________________
Steve Litchfield, 3-Lib, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/
Software and features for Psion/Symbian handhelds and smartphones
Also PocketInfo, useful files - http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/pocketinfo Journalism: sub-editor and/or senior contributor to:
Palmtop User - http://www.palmtop.co.uk/
PDA Essentials - http://www.paragon.co.uk/mags/pdaessentials.html
PC Basics - http://www.paragon.co.uk/mags/pcbasics.html
Reviews editor, AllAboutSymbian - http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/

Date: 5 Nov 2004 07:48:21 +0000
From: Chris S Handley
Subject: Re: For Chris, TubeRoute, Palmtop

Hi Steve,

I wrote in reply to Steve Litchfield:
> And, of course, there's the glaring lack of a toolbar, which
> I intend to correct at some point...  (I'll stop here, or
> I'll be writing your review for you! ;-)

Having written that, I thought "oh hell, a toolbar can't be that hard to add", and so added one to TubeRoute :-) .  Although it was more fiddly than I had hoped!

That'll be in the next bleeding edge release, which might be in a few days...
---
Chris Handley

Date: 5 Nov 2004 08:19:59 +0000
From: Victor Marchand <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Transfering of DATA files to CONTACTS;p910

With respect to transferring your Psion data to UIQ, see this 
http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36604

I used to have a P800 for a while, and did some transfering from my MC218 
to it. I've documented it in that link.

Hope it helps

Victor

Date: 5 Nov 2004 09:38:58 +0000
From: Bernard Hill <address truncated>
Subject: Re: The Digest V1 # 629

In message <5l2pQGqyZ2lW.PpD5JMPv@smtp.eclipse.co.uk>, The Digest <address truncated> writes
>To Neville Smith who's....>>> without the touchscreen but still need to >launch apps like Time, and the only way I know to do that is from the >extras bar. I can't launch it from the System\Apps\TimeW directory<<< >
>
>Re:
>Hi there,
>
>ctrl+10068 =>agenda
>ctrl+10070 =>calc
>ctrl+10071 =>jotte
>ctrl+10065 =>text
>ctrl+10069 =>time
>ctrl+10066 =>sheet

Does this vary with the machine? They don't work on my netBook.

Just to ensure I'm doing the right thing

Press Ctrl, keep it down, type the numbers, release Ctrl.

and I get

10064 System
10065 Email
10066 Opera
10067 Word
10068 Sheet
10069 Contacts
10070 Agenda
10071 Time
10072 Calc
10073 Jotter
10074 Extras

Other numbers near this range do nothing.


--
Bernard Hill
Selkirk, Scotland

Date: 5 Nov 2004 10:10:24 +0000
From: Jack <address truncated>
Subject: Re Data to Contacts

To Itamar Engelsman whose >>>... personal data are all in DATA files.....<<<

Re:

- DataContact091 from Pascal Nicolas ("Thanks forever")
but http://pnicolas.EpocBoulevard.com is down!
Hello! Martin G., please do something ;-)

- Cornelius' ConvertData031  from:
http://www.mawby.me.uk/Psion5/Psion5ConvertData.htm
does the trick too

Happy datings
Jack

Date: 5 Nov 2004 11:51:54 +0000
From: Mike Dyer <address truncated>
Subject: Various Ramblings.

Hi all,

thanks Itamar for your reply about the sms counter, I'm always researching my future potential purchases!.

Talking of which, the Nokia 7710,
team it up with a Stowaway Bluetooth Keyboard and SORTED!!!

I just wish Nokia would put a vibrate alert on this and the 9300 don't they realise some people sometimes work in noisy environments or need a discreet alert.

and as for 'Palmtop', I still like it but hate the smaller font / reduced page count, and the loss of a spine in the binding. However I shall keep subscribing.

Incidentally 'Mailwasher' flagged up the digest as probable Spam for the first time ever, weird.

I'd never criticise anyone for continuing to use an old palmtop, heck this Libretto I'm typing on is 7 years old now, yet has *full* Office 2000 compatibility, because it's running Office 2000  :o)       , can browse *any* website,  handle HTML emails, secure connnections etc.

All it needs is a diet to be as light as a Netbook and 8 hours battery life and it would be perfect!.

Best Wishes,
Mike Dyer
on a Toshiba Libretto 70ct.

Date: 5 Nov 2004 12:08:19 +0000
From: McCorquodale David <address truncated>
Subject: netBook screen calibration errors

Gentlemen. Please can someone explain why my netBook (Version 1.05(450) English (UK) - ASCII (Release 158)) every now and then looses its accuracy of the touch screen. I have to recalibrate the screen with my pen for it to work properly again (a real bore when in the sheet program). All batteries seem fine (even the backup). Any ideas?
David

Date: 5 Nov 2004 12:45:00 +0000
From: Mike Dyer <address truncated>
Subject: Nokia 7710

Hi all,

I was just thinking about Itamar's thoughts on the useability of the Nokia 7710 'as a phone'

For me the beauty of the Sony Ericsson 'p' series is that there is NO compromise. When the flip is closed the phone is no different than any other mobile phone.

The big breakthrough for me was the purchase of my 'Stowaway' bluetooth keyboard.

I'm sat here in my car (parked)!, with the p800 in the car holder and the keyboard on my lap, comfortably typing this email. I very much doubt that it will be possible to touch type on the new communicators.

Regards,
Mike Dyer
on a Sony Ericsson p800

Date: 5 Nov 2004 13:58:38 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: For Itamar and Owen

Hi Steve,

Thanks, but the idea is now to move my data from the Psion DATA program to the P910 CONTACTS program and to start working with one file for all contacts.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

Date: 5 Nov 2004 13:58:41 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: SE phone holder, TubeRoute, CopyAnywhere, Nokia's,

Answer to: Mike Dyer

Re.: SE phone holder - Thanks, looks good, will get one. I already have the cigarette lighter calbe and don't need more as it will connect to my bluetooth in the car (but for the phone book <G>).

Answer to: Chris S Handley

Re.: TubeRoute - I suggest you contact Steve and give him as much information as possible to allow him to write a full review.

Answer to: Christopher Holly

Re.: CopyAnywhere - At work we have Windows XP Professional and I upgraded to SP2. I just tried it and with me it works both ways. I have no idea why it would not for you.

Answer to: Owen

Re.: Nokia's - In principle I agree with you that it will take quite some time for this platform to mature to the extend that EPOC did. It is also clear in my mind that sooner or later we will all have to migrate to one platform or another. If let's say your 5MX will stop functioning or "falls over board" you will have to look for something else or revert to the paper diary.  I think at least we should orientate ourselves and keep our minds open, although I have done one step further and started to use the P910 (by the way, maybe because they were a week late or maybe due to a mistake, Vodaphone did not charge me for the phone, I got it for free <!>). I will not go into details, but several of the programs you mentioned do exist already on the new platform(s).

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK

Date: 5 Nov 2004 13:58:42 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Handy Day 2004/2005

I have not done this in the past, but I am truly p.ssed off with Epocware and their customer service department in .... Russia.

I bought Hand Tools 2004 on 13th October 2004 which included Handy Day 2004, a program I reviewed a few digests ago extensively. On their website it states clearly in the upgrade policy that "furthermore, we provide free upgrades to a major release to all purchasers of the product within 1 month of a purchase". Clear language ? To me yes, to them no.

Recently they introduced Handy Day 2005 and I got an email that I can get it at a discounted price of Usd 15.- instead of Usd 29.95. I tried to contact them to support service by email several times but did not get an answer. Looking at the website it gave me a phone number in Germany and in Russia. I phoned Germany where they told me to phone their service office in Moscow. So I spent 10 minutes on the phone to Russia to explain a sweet girl that I should get the upgrade for free and she agreed with me in the end and told me I would receive all details by email. So far so good ?

I received the email stating that their was a misunderstanding, that this was a totally new program and that I was not entitled to a free upgrade. Now I got angry and wrote an email back that their website clearly states differently, that they cannot claim that "Handy Day 2004" is a totally different product from "Handy Day 2005" and that I am the editor of this digest and would report back to the digest about them (here I am). My suggestion was to check this with the management.

So I got this extremely unkind and rude message back from the "Chief of Marketing" (wow, they have got a lot to learn about marketing !!) in which he states that :
- It is a new program because "the name is different" (the year only).
- It was only one application, now it is a PRODUCT LINE of two different applications He compared it with "SlovoEd" which was first one dictionary and than expanded into several more dictionaries under the same name.
- told me rudely to leave the making of their policy about upgrades to them
- it is new because the application was designed and developed from the beginning. NO any functionality or any parts of source code of old Handy Day 2004 is transfered to Handy Day 2005. They have a smilir task, but can run both at the same time on the P910
- Several new features like weather forecast, plug-in structure, skins were never announces like features of Handy Day 2004.

I told them it is clear that 2005 is the next version to 2004 to which he answered : "Why do you know for sure, did you develop Handy Day by your own ?"   Finally, in answer to my claim that their website (www.epocware.com/compay/upgrade.html) clearly states that major upgrades are free within one month from purchase his answer was "thesis of one of friends of mine is that everybody would always like everythin for free. So what ?"

In light of the above I can only give a recommendation NOT to purchase from Epocware.com or Paragon GmbH as you will not get ANY after sales service and will NOT be able to speak to anyone or get any answers without phonecalls to Russia.

I think I will see my money spent on this program as lost and look elsewhere for the same functionallity.

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK

Date: 5 Nov 2004 14:31:53 +0000
From: Norbert Fernkorn <address truncated>
Subject: AW: For Chris, TubeRoute, Palmtop

Hello Steve

> And I can't believe that ANY Psion owner will keep using it
> once the Nokia 9500 and 7710 become available in volume. They
> do everything the Psion could do and more besides.

Except of the touchscreen, an I need and use the touchscreen every day!!!!
And until the communicator have no touchscreen I didn't by one!

Best greetings from Germany
Norbert

Date: 5 Nov 2004 20:24:40 +0000
From: Owen H. Morgan <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Check your text

Howdy!

Itamar Engelsman wrote (> ):

> Re.: Check your text - My message was a request,
> you can either accept it or not, but I don't think
> you can call it "censorship".

I didn't think YOU were trying to censor me. I WAS being censored by a computer with a badly implemented spam blocker and that was what I was unhappy about. I suppose I might have guessed that this particular word could get caught in a spam blocker, but it just didn't occurr to me. I know that a word like sh*t will also get caugt by some SPAM blockers and to me this is a perfectly valid word to describe what you sometimes get under your shoe if you walk where a dog has been. I've got a friend called Dick. Where will it end?

Badly implemented SPAM blockers cause a lot of problems and I don't accept that we should all have to pussyfoot around them. If people accept that the problem is in the Spam blocker rather than a perfectly normal e-mail, then maybe the pressure will be on the ISP's to improve their software rather than on users to play a guessing game as to which words are OK or not.

Another typical situation is when someone sends me an e-mail, I reply and I'm not on their whitelist, so I get a message to click on a link to confirm I'm a real person. By the time I can get to an Internet café to click on that link, the message has long since expired.

As I said before, with SPAM as with just about everything else, prevention is better than cure.

Owen

Thought for the day:
It's hard to make a comeback when you haven't been anywhere.
--
Owen Morgan
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Anchored @ 27°46.28'N 15°41.65'W
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Date: 5 Nov 2004 20:58:01 +0000
From: Sergio Strati <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Navigating Without Touchscreen

>I am without the touchscreen but still need to launch >apps like Time, and the only way I know to do that is >from the extras bar. I can't launch it from the >System\Apps\TimeW directory.

With netBook or 5mx or mc218
press ctrl+tab
select z as disk
go to z:\system\apps\timew
launch timew.app

Date: 6 Nov 2004 03:39:59 +0000
From: "Bob Rudolph" <address truncated>
Subject: Psion backups

I have always wondered this and it happens on all the Psions that I have had.  I will perform a backup which I usually do about once a week.  Usually it takes a few minutes.  Sometimes like now, it tells me it will take 248 minutes.  Does anyone know why every once in awhile it does what looks like a complete fresh backup.  I have not done any kind of reset at all during that time.



Thanks,
Bob

Date: 6 Nov 2004 08:52:07 +0000
From: Chris S Handley
Subject: Nokia 9500/7710 replacing Psion (was For Chris, TubeRoute, Palmtop)

Hello Owen,

Owen H. Morgan in reply to Steve Litchfield:
>> And I can't believe that ANY Psion owner will keep
>> using it once the Nokia 9500 and 7710 become
>> available in volume.

>> They do everything the Psion could do and more besides.

It would probably have been better for Steve to say "They *can potentially* do everything ..." .

> I very much doubt it. They may do everything the Psion could
> do with only the built in software, but there simply hasn't
> been time for the software developers to bring out
> equivalents of everything that's available for a mature
> platform like EPOC.

I *was* going to agree with you(!), but the Nokia 92x0 (which the 9500 is compatible with) has been around for several years, and so has accumulated quite a bit of software.  It still won't have an equivalent for every piece of EPOC software, but I bet there's a good chance of there being one.

I don't know about the compatbility with the Nokia 7110, so potentially there might not be much software for it.  But it is worth remembering that many people found the Psion's built-in software so comprehensive that they never neveded to think about getting any software...


> Here are just a few of the things that I use on my Psion and
> woudl not like to do without.

<snip>

> OPL

Will most probably be available on the 9500.  It certainly is on the 92x0.


> nConvert

Not likely to be needed, since I understand that Symbian Word & Sheet can do a reasonable job of importing/exporting their Microsoft equivalents.  The 9500 is apparently much much better at this than the old 92x0.


> ConvertPro
> The old one from Purple Software. This is by far
> the most versatile unit conversion program I've
> seen on ANY platform.

It wouldn't be hard to make a spreadsheet to do the job, although it might not be quite so good at it.

<snip>

> However, I assume that even when the Nokias become available
> in volume, they will not be cheap

What I don't understand is why the Nokia 9300 will *apparently* be only 10 percent cheaper than the 9500, for the contract-less price, despite loosing both WiFi & the camera.  With such a small price difference, I'd probably be quite keen on getting the 9500!

N.B. I found this out from the same web site that reviewed the 7710, which someone posted about on the Digest recently.  The quoted price for the 9500 was 500 pounds, and for the 9300 it was 450 pounds.

Regards,
Chris Handley

Date: 6 Nov 2004 10:25:37 +0000
From: Vlad A <address truncated>
Subject: q about batteries

...normal AA cells: when new, the have about 1,5 V. What is the minimum voltage they are any use at? At 1,09 they seem to be of no use at all, but at 1,22 (this is when my Olympus digital camera tells me they are ampty) or so can I still use them in the Psion? In a Maglite? For how long? Is there a "compleat guide to batteries usage" out there?
Many thanks!

best,

vlad a

Date: 6 Nov 2004 13:42:11 +0000
From: Tom Robertson <address truncated>
Subject: Screen fading, then coming back

Dear All,

My Psion 7 screen seems to dim, the contrast irregularly fluctuates for no apparent reason... is this serious - ribbon going? screen dying? Any ideas?

many thanks,

Tom