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The Digest    Sun, 05 Dec 2004    Volume 02  :  Number 650
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In today's The Digest 12 messages
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- Re: Agenda on fridge, nConvert again, Opera on, Noisy modem

- OPL apps on the 9500

- Gained 13 grams, now fugly-and happy!

- Re: Agenda again

- nConvert again, PdbRead (HebRead),

- Re: Nokia 7710

- Held a 9500 for 5 minutes !!!

- Macro5 WINS opx

- Re: Nokia 3310

- Re: P910 email program

- re: Opera and Netbook

- Email programs for Symbian UIQ



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Date: 3 Dec 2004 10:05:51 +0000
From: Jack <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Agenda on fridge, nConvert again, Opera on, Noisy modem



To: Kevin who replied to my suggestion to Anthony
>>>..... I also take screenshot printouts of my
Agenda "week view" but have no idea how to produce a larger printout on ascreenshot but I'm sure someone else on here will probably know!

Re:
MBMview offfers a printing page setup, a "full page" size and width andheight parameters.... deserves a try


>>>>...nConvert conversion problem but neither renaming the file with an.RTF extension before converting it or deleting the .INI file beforeconversion works - I still get the "not found" dialog box.  Any otherideas?....<<<

Re:
Only reinstalling nConvert solved this for me



To: Peter McCafferty
- To prevent Opera hangings (and more) I suggest to have a look at :http://mobileopera.com/
- Again noisy modem in nB:
add
M0in the init string


Happy psionning to all...
Jack


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Date: 3 Dec 2004 10:08:00 +0000
From: Steve Litchfield <address truncated>
Subject: OPL apps on the 9500



Just to let people know that most of my OPL programs (Mapper/GB, Fairway,Atomic, Pitstop, TimeLog, etc.) are now available (or will be, by the end oftoday) for the Nokia 9300 and 9500 on http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/.

This burst of activity was inspired by squeezing a two-week loan of a 9500out of Nokia 8-). Giving it back will be the hard part, though 8-(

Biggest downer of the 9500 for ex-Psion users is the lack of Spell andThesaurus in Word, unless I'm missing something.....____________________________________________________________________Steve Litchfield, 3-Lib, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/
Software and features for Psion/Symbian handhelds and smartphones
Also PocketInfo, useful files - http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/pocketinfoJournalism: sub-editor and/or senior contributor to:
Palmtop User - http://www.palmtop.co.uk/
PDA Essentials - http://www.paragon.co.uk/mags/pdaessentials.html
PC Basics - http://www.paragon.co.uk/mags/pcbasics.html
Reviews editor, AllAboutSymbian - http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/


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Date: 3 Dec 2004 10:44:46 +0000
From: Arabbitte <address truncated>
Subject: Gained 13 grams, now fugly-and happy!



Hi,

It's back on - I replaced the flip on my P910 and am much happier. Ok, sothe phone is a little heavier and flip-ugly (I hope nobody thought I wassaying something rude!) but much easier to use. In fact, let me emphasisethat - it's much, much easier to use.

The interesting thing is that I didn't miss the keyboard at all! In factafter I replaced the flip, I forced myself to use it and found myselfreturning to the JOT - screen input - method. This isn't so much a complaintabout the keyboard  - I think it's remarkable that SE managed to getsomething to work so well in such a small space - more perhaps a comment onhow good JOT is.

On a related note, I had a screensaver in place on my P910 when the flip wasremoved. Now with the flip on, I feel the screen is well enough protectedthat I don'.t need it. Let's hope I don't regret these words .

All the best
Alan Rabbitte
Dublin, Ireland

P.S. The very observant amongst you may think there is a problem with mymaths. Fear not - the problem is Sony Ericsson's; According to ourelectronic postal scales, the real weight of a P910 is 159 grams and not 155as advertised. The same scales recorded a flip-off weight of 146, so the 13grams difference - representing a 9% addition - should be correct.


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Date: 3 Dec 2004 11:51:17 +0000
From: Edgar Brazda Ph.D. <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Agenda again





>  I also take screenshot printouts of my Agenda "week view" but have no >idea how to produce a larger printout on a screenshot but I'm sure
> someone else on here will probably know!

If you print it from MBMview, there is an option "fill page". I usually useit to print screenshots with good results. (It is easier to rotate thescreenshot 90 degrees beforehand than fiddling with the printer setuplandscape-portrait)
Edgar, Budapest


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Date: 3 Dec 2004 13:29:10 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: nConvert again, PdbRead (HebRead),



Answer to: Kevin Thorne

Re.: nConvert again - Did you try to uninstall the program and thanre-install it from scratch ?

Answer to: Rolf Brunsting

Re.: PdbRead (HebRead) - Thanks for your answer, at least someone did answer<G>.  I can confirm that in general Hebrew does work on a P910. There is acomplete Hebrew language system for the P910 with menues etc. in Hebrew, andI also found a more limited program with some of the files I mentioned inHebrew (prayer book, Old Testament). The HebRead program came from PdbReadhe developed earlier just for .PDB files, and he added the right to left andHebrew fonts later. The program does read any .PDB files, both in Englishand in Hebrew and has a "reverse" button to switch direction.  The scrollingcontrols are either touch on screen or Fn-up or down so that part is readyfor Nokia machines too. So my question stands, is there no software writerprepared to have a look at it ?  I am not asking for a commitment to effectthe rewriting, only to have a look and estimate how much time and effortwould be involved. Anyone ?

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK


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Date: 3 Dec 2004 15:07:15 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Nokia 7710



Dear Franco,

<< I am in general a bit confused about how much Symbian smartphones areakin - or different - from Epoc machines like  the 5mx & co >>

Well, a smartphone is nothing more (and nothing less) than the combinationof handheld computer and mobile phone. In the handheld computer world weknow the PDA type (PalmOne and PocketPC) and the miniature laptop type(Psion and HP Jornada). Add the mobile phone as a third type and you cancreate several different mixtures of the characteristics of the three devicetypes. Symbian doesn't tell its partners what a smartphone is, giving thepartners the freedom to create their own interpretations. Nokia has threesuch interpretations in its model line. The 6800 is more phone than PDA anddoesn't borrow anything from the miniature laptop type of handheld computer.The Nokia 7710 is more PDA than phone and can be made a bit miniature laptoplike by adding an external keyboard. While the 9500 is more miniature laptopthan phone and hardly borrows any PDA characteristics. As you currently owna Series 5mx, a pure miniature laptop type, you're not going to get your 5mxback when you buy a Nokia 7710. Nor will you get your 5mx back when you buya Nokia 9500. Which is logical as there's more to creating a smartphone thanstuffing mobile phone electronics inside a PDA or miniature laptop. You haveto deal with the phone aspects of the combination in order to make it usableas a mobile phone. Smartphones are therefore different by sheer necessity.

It's therefore not a good idea to use the Series 5mx as the 'GoldenStandard' other devices have to live up to. They don't and do so for verygood reasons. Which makes it better to have a look at what you're using yourSeries 5mx for:
1) Which activities do you perform (time management, financialadministration ....)?
2) Which applications do you use for these activities? Which can be morethan one application and includes third-party applications.
3) Which application functions do you use?
4) What do you want to do but can't with a Series 5mx?
5) Are there things you don't like about your Series 5mx and would love tosee changed in your favour?
When you rate the above on a scale of (say) 1 to 5 you have a very good ideaof what you want to have in a smartphone. Any smartphone, that is, as it'snot a given that the most suitable smartphone is a Symbian
based smartphone.

<< I might think the series 60 platform is perhaps dumbed down since it runson rather small phones like the announced Nokia 3230. And nothing wrong withthat >>

There *is* something wrong with it and that's the use of the term "dumbeddown" as it implies that the people who buy Series 60 based smartphones arelacking the intelligence to work with a smartphone of a higherspecification. It's an expression of computer-intellectual snobbery and/oran inflated sense of self-importance.

<< But what about UIQ 2.1 which runs on the larger SE P910, the Nokia series80 which runs on the Nokia 9300 and 9500, the series 90 which will run onthe Nokia 7710? >>

They're nothing more than user interface solutions for different types ofdevice. A Nokia 6800 doesn't have the QWERTY keyboard of a Nokia
9500 nor the touchscreen of a SonyEricsson P910. Nor does it have a screenthe size of either of them. The Series 60 platform is therefore Nokia'ssolution for smartphones like the 6800. A solution that won't work forsmartphones like the 9500 and 7710, hence Series 80 and 90.

<< Are these Symbian OS interfaces more sophisticated than Palm 5.2 or 5.4Garnet? >>

In one word : No. That a number of manufacturers use the Pen & Tablet deviceformat doesn't imply that there's one, and only one, user interface solutionfor them. PalmSource has a number of different ideas on how a pen-centricuser interface should look like compared to Nokia (Series 90) and Symbian(UIQ). These three interfaces allow the user to the same things but notalways in the same fashion. Whether UIQ is 'better' than Series 90 andPalmOS then depends on personal preferences and/or tastes.

<< Does an Epoc person get a better experience with a SE P910 than with aTreo 650 (to arrive soon) or a Tungsten 5 (no phone capability for this one,so this is a two device proposition of course)? >>

No again as this is also down to personal preferences and/or tastes.

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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands


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Date: 3 Dec 2004 16:05:20 +0000
From: Arabbitte <address truncated>
Subject: Held a 9500 for 5 minutes !!!



Hi,

I met a friend for lunch who works for one of the big phone companies. Hehad borrowed a 9500 for the weekend so I was - obviously - delighted to takeit off him for a few minutes to play!

Here are my observations:

- It's about the same thickness and width as a P910 but a lot longer. It'salso heavier. I'd say it's actually too big for most peoples' pockets.
- The keyboard was only ok. I'm not a touch typist but even at that, I haddifficulty pressing the keys accurately. It is better than themicro-keyboard on the P910, and it might be the kind of thing that getsbetter with familiarity.
- There is no touch screen but the little joystick seems to work prettywell. The function-specific keys on the top of the keyboard and the dynamickeys down the side of the screen make it pretty east to use.
- The screen seemed pretty good and easy to read.
- It seems very intuitive to use.
- The inbuilt applications seem better than those on the P910 - as theyshould considering the screen is exactly twice as wide! I'm not sure whatthe long-term. implications of no touch screen would be. My old 5mx'stouchscreen went awol and I remember being still well able to use it - ablyassisted by Macro5!
- The biggest plus for me over the P910 is unquestionably the propermultitasking. E.g. I started to enter a new contact. In the middle ofentering a name I used one of the function keys to switch to anotherapplication. When I returned to contacts I found the screen exactly as I hadleft it. Reminded me of my Psion 5MX days !!! Are you listening SonyEricsson ???

So soon after my purchase of a P910 I wouldn't have considered buying oneunder (almost!) any circumstances. Having said that, the 9300 is due outearly next year, doesn't have WIFI or a camera - which I couldn't care lessabout - but is considerably smaller. Think of a squared off Nokia 6310i(ubiquitous business phone) and you have the idea.

Maybe if I don't spend too much over Christmas .

All the best
Alan Rabbitte
Dublin, Ireland


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Date: 3 Dec 2004 16:27:26 +0000
From: "Eric de Bruijn" <address truncated>
Subject: Macro5 WINS opx



Hi Folks,

Could anybody please be so kind as to send me the WINS version ofMacro5.opx? Preferrably the .SIS version.

TIA

Eric de Bruijn
Rotterdam


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Date: 3 Dec 2004 21:26:31 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Nokia 3310



Dear Philippe,

<< I would like to use Phoneman with a Nokia 3310 >>

I'm afraid this won't work as the 3310 doesn't support the same datacommunication features of the Nokia phones mentioned in Phone Manager'spreferences dialog. The 3310 is an economy phone which tended to be suppliedin pre-pay package deals. Nokia therefore equipped it with a minimum offeatures in order to keep the price low.

<< I already have the data cable ... How can I use this cable with my 5mx >>

For the record : PsiWin cable -> Null-modem adaptor -> Gender Changer ->Nokia cable

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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands


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Date: 3 Dec 2004 21:41:46 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting <address truncated>
Subject: Re: P910 email program



Dear Itamar,

<< Thinking about it some more and having used this option (downloadingheaders only) this morning, there is still a difference. I can't delete theheaders I don't want to download from my mailbox on the P910 if I want tokeep the message in my remote mailbox to download them at a later stage >>

That's no problem. At least, it's not a problem with my P800 as any messageI don't delete on my P800 (header or header plus message) remains in myremote mailbox. What I do is therefore the following:
1) I retrieve the headers only.
2) I delete all the headers of messages I don't want to retrieve at all(spam and other crap).
3) I mark the headers of messages I do want to retrieve.
4) I connect to the remote mailbox. All messages belonging to the deletedheaders are deleted from my remote mailbox. Message I've marked areretrieved but not removed from it.
5) I leave any message I want to retrieve to my PC or PowerBook at a laterstage in my P800's inbox.
6) I retrieve them using the PC or PowerBook, meaning that they're nowremoved from my remote mailbox.
7) I connect using my P800 at a later stage. All messages that are no longerin my remote mailbox are deleted from my P800's inbox.

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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands


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Date: 4 Dec 2004 04:44:38 +0000
From: Donald <address truncated>
Subject: re: Opera and Netbook



Good Day Peter,

Go to this site
http://www.psionteklogix.com/teknet/pdk/netbook-pdk/downloads.htm anddownload the new OS (onto a 16mb compact flash card) which comes withregister copy of OPERA and other goodies. (Please follow instructions intext file)
Back-up a must!
remove all batteries (hard reset)
install flash card & reboot


Enjoy, Donald


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Date: 5 Dec 2004 02:43:54 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Email programs for Symbian UIQ



Besides the built in email program I found another two, EmailViewer andProfimail.

Emailviewer is written in JAVA and is in my humble opinion the leastdesirable. It works totally online and reconnects to the server for each andevery action. It has no folders and if you close the current view by mistakeyou loose even the headers you saw. There are no zoom or editing functionseither.

With the built-in email program you have several usual boxes like inbox,sent, draft, and you can also add your own boxes. A disadvantage is that youcan see only one mailbox at a time and if you want to seen another one youhave to first logg off, switch to the other mailbox and start again. Eachemail that comes in has got 3 sections, the text, the header and theattachment if any. It has several intersting settings like view unopenedemails only, show subject line or not and some more. A disadvantage is thatyou have to connect for each action separately, which means that if youdeleted some emails, you want to download some headers and send some email,you connect 3 times to the server instead of once. You have the choice ofeither downloading headers only or to download the emails immediately with apossible limit to the maximum size. WIth new mail you get an icon in thetoolbar showing you have got new mail.

Profimail is a third party program at a cost of USD 25.-. The main advantageabove the built-in program is that you can have several mailboxes which willall show in the same main view of the program. You can download mail fromall of them in one connection, or decide per mailbox whether to updateautomatically on each connection or not. It gives a sound when receivingemail but will not put an icon on the toolbar. A disadvantage is that itonly partially downloads HTML messages and connects again when opening themessage to complete the data, not so the built-in program. However, you caneffect different actions in one connections like sending messages, deletingothers and downloading yet others again. The saving of messages written doestake a long time, no idea why.

A problem with all programs is the reading of attachments, in particularfaxes that come as TIFF files. The built-in viewer is extremely poor anddoes not even have a proper zoom facillity. I can't read the text at all, itis much too small. I tried to find a third party viewer but as yet there isnone availabble that would satisfy my needs.

While Profimail does have certain advantages I am not yet sure it isworthwhile to change to it and pay the registration for it. I will playaround a little longer and see. It shows yet again that even thoug severalyears old the EPOC programs are certainly not outdated and still very muchin the top of the league table.

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK

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