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The Digest Tue, 20 Sep 2005 Volume 02 : Number 805
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In today's The Digest 13 messages
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- Sony PSP

- Translations

- Converting word on 7book

- Nokia 9300 For Sale

- More about PsiLoc+

- Psion 7Book and Garmin GPS 12XL

- E mail with broadband, UIQ backup data, PsiLoc, P910 internet question, Email ac

- Another test with the infrared keyboard

- Psion 7Book and Garmin GPS 12XL

- Re: Route 66

- Re: UIQ - multpile bluetooth

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Date: 17 Sep 2005 23:10:09 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting <address truncated>
Subject: Re: four legs

Dear Ian,

<< Instead of starting with your "a dog has four legs" comment, you
might as well have started with "Hey stupid!", because that is
exactly the impression that was given >>

The first sentence of my message to Bob may have given you this
impression. Question is, whether I wrote this sentence with the
intent and purpose to tell Bob that he's stupid. I thought I'd made
it clear that this wasn't the case. It seems that you don't accept
this - that your personal impression overrules my assurances. The
only thing I can do at this stage is to leave you with your false
impression. As it's almost a given that anything I would say about
the sentence you dislike will be pushed aside.

<< There is a fine line between being helpful and being pedantic/ pompous/boorish >>

I doubt that we can talk about there being a fine line, given the
international nature of the Digest. What's considered to be pompous
within a British context can be judged quite differently within a
German or French context.

<< As was pointed out, this Digest is for people to feel free to ask
questions, no matter how simple; if someone feels unable to ask a
question for fear of being jumped on by you, then the Digest starts
to lose some of its purpose >>

There's another group who should feel free to write, safe in the
knowledge that they won't be "jumped upon". They're the people who
write an answer, make a comment or come up with a suggestion. When
they get the feeling that what they write isn't considered to be
written with the best of intentions and to the best of their
abilities they're not going to answer questions anymore.

Look, the Digest has been described as a group of like minded people.
Which is true in the sense that we share and appreciation of things
EPOC/Symbian. But we have to reckon with the possibility that this
appreciation is the only thing we're like minded about. As the Series
5mx and SonyEricsson P910 are bought by all kind of people. So that
the population of the Digest will contain a number of people we don't
get on with very well. And that this sometimes leads to personality
clashes. Such clashes can be eliminated when personality becomes a
selection criterium for Digest membership. I doubt that this will
lead to a better Digest.

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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Beilen - Netherlands

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Date: 18 Sep 2005 17:53:15 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: PsiLoc+, UIQ - multiple bluetooth,

Answer to: Jonas Bark

Re.: PsiLoc+ - I installed Psiloc+ and I have no problems with it. However, I am not sure as yet what it will give me beyond the other programs I already had installed. Can someone inform the digest how to use Psiloc+ to good advantage ?

Answer to: Ian Chapple

Re.: UIQ - multiple bluetooth - Which means that if I use my P910 as a navigator I cannot make phonecalls via my bluetooth connection in the car. I would have to use an earpiece with a wire again connectected to the phone which I absolutely hate. It means that while Route 66 might be a good progam, it is out for me. I would have to buy a new navigator system instead of my mBook if I ever want to upgrade it.

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK

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Date: 18 Sep 2005 18:33:10 +0000
From: Timothy H.D. Williams <address truncated>
Subject: Sony PSP

Is there any chance of someone porting ER5 or later to the SONY
Playstation ?

> What is this?
>
> Yes, it's true. I've managed to run Windows 95 and Linux on the
> PSP. I've done it by porting the excellent open source x86 emulator
> Bochs.
>
> Windows 95 actually runs quite well but don't expect it to be a
> speed demon. It takes about 10 minutes to boot but afterwards it's
> pretty usable. I was able to do things like: open "My computer" and
> browse the virtual hard drive, complete a whole game of Minesweeper
> and run various other applications. Now you too can get your
> Minesweeper fix on the go :)
>
> I've also tested DLX Linux which comes pre-packaged with Bochs and
> it works just fine. However, I couldn't do much with it because
> there's no keyboard support. If you want to do your word processing
> on it then wait until keyboard support is implemented (though I
> doubt it will be any fun using the joystick).
>
> In windows, mouse handling is extremely difficult. I suspect it has
> something to do with the "boost" feature windows has. Once you get
> the mouse moving it will keep moving in that direction even when
> you're trying to move to a different direction. The solution is to
> counter the movement by moving to the opposite direction. It's sort
> of like trying to push the mouse the other way in order to stop it.

http://www.hacker.co.il/psp/bochs/

T

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Date: 18 Sep 2005 19:43:15 +0000
From: Ian Chapple <address truncated>
Subject: Translations

Dear All,
this is strictly for the non-native English speakers out there. I have been developing a program to help diabetics store their blood-sugar readings; the program provides a certain amount of security by allowing automatic backing up of the data, and allows a certain level of analysis of the readings, including the ability to plot them in the form of a graph.

This is currently the only program that I have written which supports the use of multiple languages, and I was hoping to increase the number of languages available. The program (Glucomon, available from www.freepoc.org and completely free) currently supports Cesky, Deutsch, English, Español, Français, Italiano, Nederlands, Português, Svenska and Türkçe. If your mother tongue is different from any of the above and you would be interested in helping me with translation, could you contact me off-Digest? The work required is quite small, as there are only 18 messages + the days of the week which require translation.

Thanks in advance,

Cheers, Ian.

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Date: 19 Sep 2005 05:50:14 +0000
From: Bob <address truncated>
Subject: Converting word on 7book

My 7book, all of a sudden, when I receive emails, with Word attachments, they show winmail.dat with a question mark. I am trying to figure out why it isn't converting the attachment to 7book's word. The only thing different as far as I know is that I took PsiWin off my PC, since the 9290's PC suite wouldn't install until I uninstalled PsiWin. It also says that in the book to uninstall PsiWin first. I didn't have to do that with PC suite for my N-Gage QD. They co-existed fine. Having said that, that shouldn't affect mail coming to my 7book over my network. Any ideas????

Thanks,
Bob

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Date: 19 Sep 2005 07:01:31 +0000
From: Roy Maidment <address truncated>
Subject: Nokia 9300 For Sale

Hello Folks,

For anyone interested, I posted my 'unwanted' brand new 9300 on Ebay here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6434499613&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

It's for anyone wanting a cheap (and genuine) 9300, and I've had a hard timedeciding not to keep it!

Apologies for the shameful plug.

With best regards,

Roy M

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Date: 19 Sep 2005 07:46:33 +0000
From: Phil Aypee <address truncated>
Subject: More about PsiLoc+

Hi Folks,

As I said to Jonas in an off-digest eMail, PsiLoc+ has been *_very_* stable for me.

But it is true that PsiLoc+ and other similar utilities (EPOC Task Manager is one) use low-level facilities in EPOC that do not appear to be properly documented if at all. Consequently each such utility uses an individual approach.

Hence there will probably be conflicts.

AlarmPlus (Robin Hood?) does much the same as certain aspects of PsiLoc+ and the rest is done by EPOC Task Manager from the same stable. Obviously EPOC Task Manager and PsiLoc+ are mutually redundant but people have tried to run AlarmPlus to supplement PsiLoc+. As they use the same EPOC OS facilities in different, mutually incompatible, ways crashes result and data is lost.

So running PsiLoc+ with AlarmPlus is really a no-no.

There are reasons, inadequate in my opinion, for running *no* utilities that enhance the OS using undocumented facilities. In Micros**t terms it may well be inadvisable as they’re likely to disable *anything* in the next OS. But that doesn’t apply now to ER5 and before (if it ever did).

I do run, and successfully, PsiLoc+ Pro but it may well not be the best solution for all.

Happy days,
Phil.

“Everybody should believe in something.
I believe I’ll have another drink.”

http://www.philaypee.co.uk/index.html

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Date: 19 Sep 2005 18:09:35 +0000
From: Tom Robertson <address truncated>
Subject: Psion 7Book and Garmin GPS 12XL

Dear all,

I am trying to set up my 7Book and Garmin GPS 12XL using Street Planner 99 and Enroute. I have had this set up before but have since used the GPS for other purposes and have upgraded the Psion OS (to 450). I am now having trouble connecting the devices. The GPS connects via a cable supplied by Cable Systems UK, specific to the task. This is undamaged and works fine.

The GPS is set to NMEA/NMEA NMEA 0183 version 2, 4800 baud, 8 bit parity, 1 stop bit. I connect the devices and activate GPS in enroute/street planner. The error message is 'please attach GPS hardware'. There is satellite coverage and full power. The Link (system) is set to off.

I have run the comms app/Communications Settings: (Cable, 57600, 8, 1, None) and do get a response. I'm not sure if this proves anything!?!

Any ideas? Is this a known problem? I have a formatted series 5 and have installed street planner onto this from the CD but the problem persists. What should the navigation settings on the GPS be? Position Format? Map Datum? Would this make any difference? How can I test the GPS is connected properly with Comms?

Any help gratefully received!

Regards,

Tom

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Date: 19 Sep 2005 19:20:45 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: E mail with broadband, UIQ backup data, PsiLoc, P910 internet question, Email ac

Answer to: Carl von Einem & Armin Podtschaske

Re.: E mail with broadband - Last thing first. I wrote (or edited) my macros myself so I pretty well know what I do <G>. Let me try and explain in more detail. I use ADSL in the office with smtp.star.co.uk, ADSL at homw with smtp.eclipse.co.uk and GPRS via my mobile with smtp.vizzavi.co.uk (Vodaphone). In my Psion I have got 3 email accounts, my "home" account, my "work" account and the "digest" account. Each account has got it's own email address as "from" field. When I write an email from work the receiver will see it came from "itamar<at>dotara.co.uk", when from me personally they will see "itamar<at>post.com" and from the digest well known. This means that depending on where I am I can send emails from all three accounts by changing the smtp server in all 3 accounts to the smpt server needed at that moment, either of the 3 above. My macro's will change all 3 accounts to the correct smtp server I need to use at work, home or with my mobile. I hope I explained myself better now.
You are right that a "well configured SMTP " will not allow others to use it, but there are probably still some general smtp servers around that anyone can use at any time, as bad as that is. In the past Compuserve had a classic account that was pop3 compatible and that could be used with a Psion as well, they even had a Psion forum long before this digest or the ups5digest back in the 1990's where some of the contributors to this digest originally "met". At the time the internet was not yet developed as it is now and we had a spcial program on our series 3 machines to download the messages and read them on our Psions (who still remembers this ?).
So, modern email programs have "more than one email account", and so has got the EPOC email program !

Answer to: Ian Chapple

Re.: UIQ backup data - Yes, the program is free.

Answer to: Phil Aypee

Re.: PsiLoc - I had some problems installing it but it always helps to copy the .SIS file to the Psion and install the program from the Psion itself instead of from the PC. Once I had done that it worked immediately.

Answer to: Ian Chapple

Re.: P910 internet question - In simple terms WAP is a downgraded internet connection originally intended for use on mobile phones that did not have the screens and/or the speed to use full internet. All the information was in text format without any graphics. With the fast improvement of mobile devices on both accounts we don't hear that much of WAP anymore (AFAIK). I think that Opera works a lot better on my P910i than the Internet program that came with it, but I find the screen too small to use internet effectively. Besides which it works via GPRS which means relatively high costs.

Answer to: Armin Podtschaske

Re. Email accounts - In the UK you can get either an email account with a provider or an internet email account like hotmail, gMail, etc. On the other hand, at the office we are connected via the building to a provider called STAR. Even though we ourselves have no email account with them, we can still use their smtp server as the building is subscribed. I hope this makes sense.

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK

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Date: 19 Sep 2005 22:03:07 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Another test with the infrared keyboard

IDear All,

This is another test with this keyboard and it is really difficult to work with. if you have ideal circumstances like relative darkness and are prepared to be patient and concentrate all the time you can do reasonbly well. However, you c an certainly not type with 10 fingers and from time to time some letters kust don't react. Once you get the hang of it it does wor,k not too badly and you have to play around with the settings. I think
Ivwill keep it as a spare in case I don't have my mBook with me. However,
I certainly cannot use it during meetings as it needs relative darkness.

Best regards,

Itamar

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Date: 19 Sep 2005 22:03:55 +0000
From: Tom Robertson <address truncated>
Subject: Psion 7Book and Garmin GPS 12XL

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Date: 19 Sep 2005 22:21:16 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Route 66

Dear Itamar,

<< ... I would like to say that it is not always necessary to upgrade
maps the moment they come out (how many people have many years old
maps lying in their cars ?) >>

I think it's in the nature of electronic route planning systems for
people to update their digital map sets more frequently than their
paper road maps or road atlases. This because electronic planners are
computer based and will therefore be treated as we treat our
(handheld) computers, PDAs, etc. Which includes the irrational urge
of always wanting to have "The Latest Version". We upgrade software
version 5.2 to version 5.2.1 the moment 5.2.1 comes out. Even though
we haven't found anything wrong with the 5.2 that's on our computers.
The reason that we upgrade is because we *might* encounter one of the
bugs that's fixed in 5.2.1. and *might* use one of the three
functional enhancements of 5.2.1. While a more rational approach
would be to upgrade to 5.2.1 only when you're hit by one of the bugs
that are hidden in 5.2. Or to upgrade when you do need one of the
functional enhancements. I think the same will be true for electronic
map sets in that we also want to work with "The Latest Version" for
similar "We Might..." reasons.

<< I was trying to say that changing phones would mean extra costs on
a lot of software again, amongst this Route 66, while for example a
TomTom I could use for many years in several cars without having to
upgrade it again >>

It's more a case of "could mean" rather than "would mean" when it
comes to changing smartphone. Replace your SonyEricsson P910 by a
P950 and you keep using the UIQ platform. There's a fairly high
chance that you don't have to make any changes to your third-party
applications as they run as well on a P950. Replace your P910 by a
Nokia 6681, however, and you do have to change your third-party
software as you're changing from UIQ to Series 60. Still, as there's
a version of Route 66 for the 6681 you don't have to learn the ins
and outs of a new application. Something you have to do when you
change to a Nokia 9300 as there's no version of Route 66 available
for it. You'll have to change to TomTom Mobile 5.

Replacing smartphones is therefore more a question of "Where's the
pain?". A P950 won't be high on your candidate list when you're
strongly dissatisfied with the performance and/or limitations of your
P910. So that a 9300 can be a much more attractive proposition, even
though it will give you a temporary pain the the wallet.

As for the TomTom Go ... well ... say that you buy a TomTom Go 300
now and that TomTom comes with a new Go 301 in two years time. Will
you be able to resist the urge to buy a spanking new Go 301? Given
your equipment buying pattern through the years I'm fairly sure we'll
see you leave the shop with a Go 301 box under your arm and a big
smile on your face.

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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Beilen - Netherlands

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Date: 19 Sep 2005 23:18:52 +0000
From: Rolf Brunsting <address truncated>
Subject: Re: UIQ - multpile bluetooth

Dear Itamar,

<< Can the P910 use multiple bluetooth connections so I can use my
phone handsfree and at the same time to be connected to a bluetooth
GPS receiver ? >>

Bluetooth itself allows for multipoint connections so that you can
create a small wireless LAN in which multiple devices are active.
It's thus perfectly possible for a smartphone, PDA and laptop
computer to share a Bluetooth printer. Or to have the combination of
smartphone, headset, GPS receiver and printer.

The Bluetooth devices I have are a SonyEricsson P800, SonyEricsson
HBH-30 headset and Apple PowerBook G4 laptop computer. I've
'bluetoothed' files from the P800 to the PowerBook and vice versa.
I've also listened to music generated by iTunes on the PowerBook via
the HBH-30 headset. What's more, I once answered a phone call using
the headset while copying some plain text files from the PowerBook to
the P800.

I'm therefore quite sure that you can use your P910 in combination
with an handsfree car set as well as a GPS receiver. After all, the
designer of, and major force behind, Bluetooth was : Ericsson. The
one thing you have to reckon with, though, is that the transfer of
voice data from smartphone to handsfree car set will take much more
bandwidth than the transfer of location data from GPS receiver to
smartphone. So that the route planner on the smartphone may be
updated less frequently when you're making a phone call.

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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Beilen - Netherlands

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