- Re: E mail with broadband

- Re: E mail with broadband

- OPL on next gen Symbian devices

- *** SPAM *** Erectile dysfunction in my 5mx

- Nokia 9500 Excel Problem

- Re: UIQ

Date: 27 Sep 2005 08:50:18 +0000
From: Carl von Einem <address truncated>
Subject: Re: E mail with broadband

Hi Rolf,

I need some more coffee :-)

First I have to admit that I don't use email with my Psion. I only used to read / write SMS messages via my old Siemens cell phone's IR but that sadly doesn't work (for me) with my new cell phone, a SE K700i. Somehow I can only exchange contacts via IR.

I'd love to use my Psion for email from time to time but I get so much emails from clients with attachments (I hate it) so that downloading the messages would clearly fill up my disk space very soon. IMAP would be a solution but that might be expensive without a mobile flat rate.

How do you handle that attachment problem?

> From: Rolf Brunsting <address truncated>
>
> << Definitely not. A well configured SMTP (or outgoing mail) server 
> will only accept and process messages when the sender has the right 
> password for that account. >>
>
> I'm sorry, but what are the "password" and "account" you're referring 
> to? I've never, ever, entered a password for the SMTP server in the
> e- mail account settings on all the computers, PDAs and smartphones
> I've used.

That's because you are not the administrator of the smtp server.
I meant the password for your email account. And the smtp server should ask for that password when you try to send or receive messages. I think some RFC describes that procedure, something like this one:
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc2505.txt

> What's more, have a look at the account settings for the Psion 
> Email application where you can enter the SMTP server name (like 
> mail.isp.com or smtp.isp.com) but no password. The only additional 
> option you have is whether Email will send messages out automatically.

Every email account is identified by a 'user' (or account name) and a 'password', otherwise everyone else would be able to send messages with your identity or read messages addressed to you. That's part of the
email account created on a specific SMTP server by some person with admin rights. Compare it with a Windows network: the server has to know you (user, login) or wouldn't let you in (ok, there might be guest accounts with restricted rights). Connecting to that server shouldn't give you access to the server from the other company next door, even if both servers are connected through the internet.

When connecting to your smtp or pop server you provide your account
name, then the server asks you for your password. I know mail apps usually let you store your mail password but that might be a risky thing.

[...]

> This goes against your "... a SMTP server is always technically 
> independent from the physical connection of the client to the 
> internet". Now, this may be true when when you look at the basic 
> principles behind SMTP. And it may have been true in the past - that 
> you could access and use an SMTP server from any point on the 
> Internet. Fact is that Planet Internet *does* link the access to its 
> SMTP server to being logged on to the Internet via its systems. After 

They do it perhaps but it is not technically neccessary, that's what I wanted to point out. They just sell you both when you only need one (the access).

> all, when you log on via Planet Internet you have to supply your user 
> name and password, thereby making yourself known as a registered 
> customer.

So in this case you speak of the user/pw of your mail account you expose to a different server? I guess it's the user/pw for your temporary Internet connection. And that server transports every mail you feed it? Funny, then you can spam everybody with faked FROM and REPLY-TO addresses, don't you?

> It may not be the world's most elegant solution. Internet purists may 
> rage against it as it violates some dearly held principle. [...]

Those principles or rules are called RFC (see above for the link).

Sorry to everyone for boring and extended "admin talk".

Best,
Carl

Date: 27 Sep 2005 10:05:54 +0000
From: Carl von Einem <address truncated>
Subject: Re: E mail with broadband

On more link and as a conclusion from my side: I guess we all have some reasonable points in the discussion...

I searched on
<http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/bcp/bcp-index.html> for the term 'smtp' and found <http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2505.html>

I think that

3. Future work
3.1. Impact on SMTP UAs and end users

pretty well covers our discussion, doesn't it?

best,
Carl

Date: 27 Sep 2005 10:35:28 +0000
From: Steve Litchfield <address truncated>
Subject: OPL on next gen Symbian devices

>>Can I ask an existing Symbian author to comment on what they feel the impact of this new environment will be? Will they continue to support Symbian. Will it mark the end of freeware applications because of the extra effort involved? Mr Litchfield?

It's not a question of effort. Most OPL programmers do it because they love it.

The problem is that the OPL runtime has a number of (ahem) hacks that help it work with Symbian OS 6 and 7. So far, noone's found a way of getting it to work on ANY OS 8 or 9 devices. The OPL project *desperately* needs a really good Symbian-experienced C++ programmer with some spare time and motivation to take on the code base and adapt it for the new generation of smartphones.

If anyone here knows of a likely candidate....

..........................
Steve Litchfield, 3-Lib, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/
Software and features for Psion/Symbian handhelds and smartphones Journalism: sub-editor and/or senior contributor to:
Palmtop User - http://www.palmtop.co.uk/
PDA Essentials magazine (all good newsagents)
Reviews editor, AllAboutSymbian - http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/

Date: 27 Sep 2005 15:42:22 +0000
From: Chris Cooper
Subject: *** SPAM *** Erectile dysfunction in my 5mx

Some time ago, the plastic studs that anchor the metal tensioning clips on my 5mx broke. The upper end of each clip is normally attached by a screw at the base of the screen section and the other end vanishes under the lip at the back of the well in the base section. Out of sight under this lip each clip hooks around a small upright plastic stud. One of these studs broke, months ago, and the other followed soon after. There's no question of my repairing them myself.

I unscrewed the clips and stashed them away. I now have a 5mx that works perfectly, but is rather floppy. The keyboard slides freely in the base section, but is prevented from flying into space by the lip at the sides of the base. (I hope my ad-hoc terminology makes things clear.) I have to open and close the machine with some care, to prevent the keyboard getting banged about. I can see the ribbon connector flexing vigorously, but I don't see that it should be subjected to any more strain than normal.

The only effect on operation is that the bottom row on the keyboard is now a tad too yielding, as the whole keyboard-screen assembly can tilt up. It's consequently often a struggle to get a key combination such as Ctrl-Fn-2 to register. Propping the front of the keyboard on a pencil or ballpoint helps.

I don't want to lash out on a body transplant for the machine, but I don't know what could be done short of that. It seems a long shot, but – does anyone know of any brilliant way of getting some rigidity back into this most vital organ?

TIA,

Chris

Date: 27 Sep 2005 17:11:46 +0000
From: Charles Davies <address truncated>
Subject: Nokia 9500 Excel Problem

I am afraid that I am answering my own posting.
Discovered that had transferred an Office 2002 version of Excel and
that ROUNDDOWN function which is not support neither in Psion or
Pocket Excel.
Am now busy working out a workaround for ROUNDDOWN.
Charles

Date: 27 Sep 2005 20:22:41 +0000
From: Steve Hodgson <address truncated>
Subject: Re: UIQ

>Palm brought out a brand-new operating system called Cobalt which was
>technically far superior to the old Palm OS. I'm sure Palm assumed that
>all authors would just follow them but something went wrong. I'm not
>sure exactly what happened, but Palm are now looking at Linux for their
>future needs.

Yes, the joys of multitasking are denied us Palm users for the moment. While on a Psion I could browse the Web, check e-mail, write a document and be planning a route all at (apparently) the same time, such pleasures are unavailable to me on the latest Palm hardware. The apparent death of Cobalt, move to Linux and the very recent announcement of Palm hardware running Windows means I don't feel particularly upbeat about the survival of the 'classic' PDA at the moment.

--
Regards,

Steve Hodgson                          mailto:<address truncated>