- no subject

- Netbook power supply and using BT on a plane

- Bluetooth, etc in P910 "Flight Mode" - Reply to Itamar:

- RE: The Digest V1 # 867

- RE: 5mxes for sale, Bluetooth on a plane

- Bluetooth keyboard

- Route 66, Touch dial, jABP, Avantgo, Back-up,

- NB screen & Orange/Nokia P990i

- Nokia OC Suite and PsiWin

- Silken psioncloth for dust protection

- New Computer Solves Psiwin Woes

Date: 9 Jan 2006 16:15:04 +0700
From: Ian Chapple <address truncated>
Subject: no subject

Itamar,
>>Re. Bluetooth on a plane - Sitting on a plane traveling back home again from a short business trip I found out something rather annoying. I wanted to play around with my new bluetooth keyboard and tried to switch it on with the P910 in flight mode. Guess what .... bluetooth will only work if the phone function is on and not in flight mode. This means you cannot use a bluetooth keyboard with a P910 while flying. That is extremely annoying as I am used to download my emails before the flight leaves, working on the answers during the flight and sending them out again after landing. This means I can't do that without taking my mBookwith me. Does anyone know of a way to circumvent this ?<<

Bluetooth is suppressed when in flight mode for the same reasons as the GSM part; to avoid ANY radio transmission whilst on a plane. Whether this is strictly necessary is open to question, but this will be the case as long as airlines stick to the requirement that no devices which transmit may be used during a flight.

I think that this may have been mentioned before, but there is a school of thought which maintains that the frequencies used by mobile phones (850MHz up to 1900MHz) and Bluetooth (2,4GHz) are actually much less "dangerous" to aircraft electronic systems than the electrical noise produced by many devices which are allowed to be used during flight, such as PDAs, laptops and MP3 players.

Some airlines are even considering allowing the use of mobile phones on planes by providing their own base-station within the plane; this avoids the problem of a mobile phone connecting to several base-stations on the ground, which is potentially a serious problem to the mobile phone providers, but it does somewhat undermine the argument that using a mobile phone on a plane is per se unsafe.

Cheers, Ian.

Date: 9 Jan 2006 17:43:07 +0700
From: Richard Corfield <address truncated>
Subject: Netbook power supply and using BT on a plane

> Same subject :  I think you are wrong. I have definitely charged my > mBook battery considerably more times than 500 and it is still going > strong as ever.

Almost certainly - I wasn't saying 500 times as an actual figure, I was just thinking 500 as more likely than 5 or 50,000.  (Unfortunately 50,000 is a bit optimistic.)


Also, re: Bluetooth.

Surely too obvious, but have you tried switching on bluetooth and flight mode both ways round? (BT then FM, or FM then BT)

Is this intentional because of the (perception?) of risk of BT intefering with the plane's systems?


Richard

Date: 9 Jan 2006 18:24:14 +0700
From: Arabbitte <address truncated>
Subject: Bluetooth, etc in P910 "Flight Mode" - Reply to Itamar:

>>>
Re. Bluetooth on a plane - Sitting on a plane traveling back home again from a short business trip I found out something rather annoying. I wanted to play around with my new bluetooth keyboard and tried to switch it on with the P910 in flight mode. Guess what .... bluetooth will only work if the phone function is on and not in flight mode. This means you cannot use a bluetooth keyboard with a P910 while flying. That is extremely annoying as I am used to download my emails before the flight leaves, working on the answers during the flight and sending them out again after landing. This means I can't do that without taking my mBook with me.

Does anyone know of a way to circumvent this ?
<<<

Eh, yes ... Bit of background first: On the P910, bluetooth is switched off with when GSM is switched off (aka phone in Flight Mode). This is (I suppose) because bluetooth communications were considered by the P910 designers to be as potentially harmful to control systems on a aeroplane as GSM communications. Now Infrared - possibly because of it's much shorter range than bluetooth - will continue to work on the P910 when GSM is switched off. I've just tested this to make sure by accessing the P910 filesystems from my laptop using IR and I therefore *assume* the same IR will work between the P910 and an Infrared portable keyboard. This would have to be tested though. If it did work, IR portable keyboards have the added advantage of being much cheaper than equivalent BT ones. Not much use if you already have a BT keyboard though :-(

Another final point on this subject. If you had bravely clicked on the link to the P990 review I posted to Digest 871, you would have seen towards the end of the review that WiFi works when the GSM is switched off. If you look closer at the menu, you will see that not only is WiFi possible, but also (apparently) Bluetooth, Infrared and USB. If you don't want to go through all those pictures again, you can click on just the relevant screen image of the P990 menu here: http://ck37.image.pbase.com/image/53917479.jpg {Don't worry, it's *just* a P990 menu ;-) } Just why this differs from the P910, I have no idea.

All the best from Dublin, Ireland
Alan Rabbitte

Date: 10 Jan 2006 01:00:57 +0700
From: Austin
Subject: RE: The Digest V1 # 867

Reply to Andrew (ABlake3459 <address truncated>), who wrote on 28 Dec 2005

>Subject: Psion 5mx + Nokia 6230i email settings query

>Subject: Which mobile  phone do you prefer to augment your 5mx Austin, >Please could you let me have the emailing settings you use for this >combination? I have had my 5mx for a long while & it used to email OK via an old Siemens S25 mobile.
>I then moved on to a Nokia 8310, but could never get that to handle the email function, despite trying many different settings, including those advised
by Matt McConnell's usually excellent web-site.
>I've now upgraded to a Nokia 6230i and would dearly love to be able to get the 5mx email function working again through it.
>I look forward to hearing from you.
>Andrew

+++++++++++++++++++++

With apologies for the delay - it took me quite a while to put all this together!

Below is the full set of settings that I use to connect my Psion to my Nokia 6230i to the internet over GPRS.  My main email account is with Pipex and is accessible both via POP3 and as webmail.  When using the Psion I find it simpler to use webmail for both receiving and sending.  However, I have also satisfactorily used XJMail as well and the information needed to use this is also included below, for information.  Despite my best efforts I have been unable to get smtpauth to work (hence my setting up XJMail) but my long term goal is to use smtpauth simply because it allows one to use the Psion's built in email program - XJMail is a standalone program.  Anyway, with apologies for the length of this posting but I thought it might be helpful to bring all these things together because, although they've been covered in previous Digests and elsewhere they tend to be for older phones or only cover part of the configurations necessary.  This post includes:

PART "A" To Configure the Psion 5mx
Part "B (1)" To Configure the Nokia 6230
Part "B (2)" APN for Nokia 6230
PART "C" Set up XJMail (details omitted from this posting as XJMail has been covered in previous Digests and can be quite complicated)
PART "D" Go Online

Preamble

GPRS (General Packet Radio Service) is a protocol for passing data over a mobile phone network.  It can be "always on" to allow continuous data connection for GSM mobile phones and allows faster WAP browsing, web surfing and email (potentially up to about 56000bit/sec though, like a landline, 30-40k is more likely); this compares with 9600 bps over GSM.

As well as being faster and always on the other advantage is that you pay for the amount of data you transfer, rather than for your online time per-minute.  Another major advantage of GPRS is that sessions can be suspended when an incoming voice call is detected so you don't lose calls – if online using GSM, the caller would get your “engaged” tone or be diverted to voicemail.

I should make some things absolutely clear.  Firstly editing your own phone or computer settings is entirely at your own risk.  If doing so makes your phone inoperable in another way (e.g. MMS) don’t blame me.  Secondly, if you search on the Internet you will find variations of these settings that may or may not work with your phone.  I can find no satisfactory explanation for why this should be other than, possibly, that the details of the various settings have evolved over time and in response to individual phones’ capabilities (though I can suggest no reason why this should be the case or why even it should be possible).  But, as you will see, GPRS settings can be very complicated and, because of the nature of the phone keypad, be very laborious to input or edit.  Finally, some of my settings defy logic (e.g. the setting that tells the Psion that my mobile phone modem is a “fixed
line”) but that’s how it works so I just accept it.

You should also remember that to connect over GPRS you will need to have your SIM card/ account “data enabled” (call your service provider if in doubt) and that these settings are for Vodafone pay monthly tariff.  They will not work with Vodafone prepay or for any other network.  For excellent advice about GPRS, MMS, APN, WAP, GSM and other mobile phone internet settings, visit
http://www.mobileshop.org/usertech/gprssettings.htm
or
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html.


Note that I have installed on my 5mx:
Email sync 1.15 and Email sync 1.15 upgrade
IMAP4 plugin
Mobile GPRS Update
Sink2
TCPIP update
The Dialler

---------------------------------------------------
PART "A" To Configure the Psion 5mx: ---------------------------------------------------

Control Panel: Modems: Modem settings

(New/Edit)

Modem:
Name: (Call it what you like – I call mine Nokia 6230i GPRS
Speed: 115200 baud
Connect via: Infrared
Fax Class: Auto

Options:
Loudspeaker in use: Never
Volume: Quiet
Pause time for “,”: 4 seconds

Initialisation:
Init. (reset) string: ATZ
Data init. string (blank)
Fax init. string (blank)

Advanced:
Flow control: Hardware (RTS/CTS)
Terminal Detect (DSR/DTR): (enabled)
Carrier Detect (DCD): (enabled)
Modem Type: Fixed line


Control Panel: Internet: Internet service settings:  these settings depend on your service provider; these settings are for Vodafone):

Current Internet Service: (GPRS internet service settings’ name; see below) Show connection dialog: (enabled)
If idle, stay online for: 10:00 mm:ss
On exit, stay online for: 10:00 mm:ss

(New/Edit)

Service:
Name: (Call it what you like – I call mine Vodafone GPRS)
Connection Type: Dial-up
Use “smart” dialling: (blank)
Standard dial-up number: *99#
Other dial-up numbers (Edit): none

Account:
Manual login: (disabled)
Username: web
Password: web
Confirm password: web

Addresses:
Get IP address from server: (enabled)
IP address: (blank)
Get DNS address from server: (enabled)
Primary DNS address: (blank)
Secondary DNS address: (blank)

Login:
Use login script: (disabled)
Port settings: (blank)
Display window: (blank)

Advanced:
Enable PPP extensions: (enabled)
Allow plain text authentication: (enabled)
Use call back: (blank)
Call back behaviour: (blank)
Call back number: (blank)

--------------------------------------------------------
PART "B (1)" To Configure the Nokia 6230: --------------------------------------------------------

These settings are visible and editable in this order and in this form on the 6230.  On the 6230i they are completely different and, since the auto-configuration pre-installed on the phone worked first time, I suggest you use that.  In any case, I have been unable to create a manual set that works, despite matching them to those of the 6230 as closely as seems to be possible.  If it doesn’t work I suggest that you call customer support (for Vodafone call 191 from your handset).

To set up a new set of GPRS internet service settings:
1 Press Menu
2 Scroll up to Services and press Select
3 Scroll up to Settings and press Select
4 Stay on Connection Settings and press Select
5 Stay on Active Service Settings and press Select
6 Scroll down to an (empty) profile and press Activate
7 Scroll down to Edit Active Settings and press Select
8 Stay on Settings' Name and press Select press Clear to remove (empty) and enter Vodafone GPRS and press OK
9 Scroll down to Homepage and press Select, enter
http://wap:1999/vodafone.wml
10 Scroll down to Proxies and press Select, scroll to Enable and press Select
11 Scroll down to Primary proxy, press Select and enter 212.183.137.012
12 At Port (press Clear to remove numbers) and enter 8799 and press OK
13. Scroll down to Secondary proxy, at Proxy address: type 8080
14 Scroll down to Data Bearer and press Select, scroll to GPRS data and press Select
15 Scroll down to Bearer Settings and press Select
16 Stay on GPRS Access Point and press Select, enter wap.Vodafone.co.uk
17 Scroll down to Authentication type press Select, scroll to Normal and press Select
18 Scroll down to Data call type, press Select, scroll to Normal and press Select
20 Scroll down to Login Type and press Select, scroll to Automatic and press Select
21 Scroll down to User Name and press Select and enter wap, press OK
22 Scroll down to Password and press Select and enter wap, press OK
23 At Verify password enter wap and press OK
24 Press Back
25 Keep pressing Back to return to the operator logo

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PART "B (2)" APN for Nokia 6230 or 6230i: --------------------------------------------

This bit is easily overlooked or in my case, I did not initially understand what it meant or where to find it.

1 Press Menu
2 Scroll down to Settings
3 Scroll down to Connectivity
4 Scroll down to GPRS
5 GPRS connection – I use “when needed” but you could easily choose “Always online”
6 Scroll down to GPRS modem settings
7 Scroll down to Edit active access point
8 Edit both “Alias for access point” and “GPRS access point” to be
“internet”
9 You have now named the APN to be internet – back out of the menu

---------------------------------
PART "C" Set up XJMail:
---------------------------------

Details omitted from this document.  Download XJMail from
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/%7Ektkawabe/densha_e.html#XJMail_beta


-----------------------------
PART "D" Go Online:
-----------------------------

You should now be able to go online with the Psion using GPRS on the Nokia. Incidentally, your Nokia modem should now also work with a laptop computer as well, provided you’ve got your laptop correctly configured and your Nokia modem installed – but that’s another story!

To use the 6230 with the Psion 5MX you will need to activate the Infrared port on both the Psion and the Nokia.

To do this on the Psion:
1 Press Ctrl-L and select infrared

To do this on the Nokia:
1. Press Menu
2. Select Settings
3 Scroll down to Connectivity
4 Select Infrared

--------------------------------
Best of luck!
Austin

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Date: 10 Jan 2006 01:34:47 +0700
From: Alan Morris <address truncated>
Subject: RE: 5mxes for sale, Bluetooth on a plane

Itamar Engelsman <address truncated> wrote:-

||> I do have a S5 still in the office looking for a good home.

||> This means I can't do that without taking my mBook
||> with me. Does anyone know of a way to circumvent this ?


Errr, don't sell the S5.  Only joking!

Alan Morris.

Date: 10 Jan 2006 13:20:02 +0700
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Bluetooth keyboard

If you are looking for a bluetooth keyboard have a look at www.mobileburn.com/story.jsp?Id=1491 for a comparison between 3 possibilities.

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK

Date: 10 Jan 2006 14:20:34 +0700
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Route 66, Touch dial, jABP, Avantgo, Back-up,

Answer to: Ian Chapple

Re.: Route 66 - Well, are you already able to give us some information how you are getting on with this program ?

Answer to: Arabbitte

Re.: Touch dial - You are right, each their own idea. I don't mind at all, it is just a flick of the thumb to hit the "ok" button.
Re. jABP - Thanks for the response. Can one exchange the DATA between jABP and ABP from and to EPOC and Symbian ?
Re. Avantgo - Thanks, I'll give it another try.

To All:

Re. Back-up - Today I did another back-up after a short business trip and suddenly the phone is completely backed up again, all the files, instead of only the changed ones. I have no idea why this has happened. could it be that changing of the SIM card has something to do with it (I used a local SIM card while being abroad) ?

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK

Date: 10 Jan 2006 17:52:24 +0700
From: Peter Julian & Associates <address truncated>
Subject: NB screen & Orange/Nokia P990i

NHY 2006 all,

2 matters...

firstly, my Netbook screen is starting to misbehave occassionally. The lower half becomes gently striated. This effect is cancelled when I push gently down on theupper surface of th ebattery housing. this suggests to me that the screen cable is about to fail.

Is this so?
Is there a temporary/permanent fix that I can apply, or shall I jump on a bus to POS?

Secondly,
FYI, I enquired with Orange as to whether or not they are intending to badge & release the forthcoming Nokia 990i. They have replied "No".


Thanks.


Peter



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Date: 10 Jan 2006 19:46:56 +0700
From: Mark Kenepp <address truncated>
Subject: Nokia OC Suite and PsiWin

Hello,

I have been contemplating taking the plunge to Symbian Series 80 and I am anxiously waiting the release of the Nokia 9300i.

Do any of you Series 80 users have both the Nokia PC Suite and PsiWin installed on your desktop computer? Are there any issues?

Also, I have asked before about RMRBank data transfer from the EPOC32 r5 version to the Series 80 version but received no response do I thought I would try again.

Has any one who uses RMRBank transferred data from an EPOC32 device to one of the Nokia Communicators?

TIA,

Mark Kenepp
San Francisco, CA

Date: 11 Jan 2006 06:27:18 +0700
From: U Hornstein <address truncated>
Subject: Silken psioncloth for dust protection

Hello List,

like many other Psion owners, I have acquired some spare machines for the day when my everyday machine gives up the ghost. I've found that the spare machines are of no use when waiting in a drawer for day X. So I went and put it next to my stationary telephone in the hall, where it serves well as phone directory, local calendar etc. It is synchronized with the main machine via EpocSync (see below).

Well, sitting in the open, dust becomes a problem - but opening and closing the machine for every lookup is not the thing to do: every Psion owner must have heard of the wear out problem of the display cable. So, to prevent it from dust, a friend of mine has made this very nice Psioncloth from silk and some embroidery. It shines in different coulors depending on the light conditions - a beautiful piece of art. You can see it at

http://psion.uh-lab.de
(lower third of the page or search (ctrl+F) for "cloth"

If anyone is interested in such a thing of any size and any design, feel free to send me a mail - I'll forward it to her. She does textile wall pictures and other stuff, too.
--
With greetings from Germany
Ulrich Hornstein
http://psion.uh-lab.de
For spam protection: Please NEVER type my mail address into a www page ("send to a friend" or similar).
Sent by MC218 (EPOC palmtop)

Date: 12 Jan 2006 04:27:00 +0700
From: Jim Watson-Gove <address truncated>
Subject: New Computer Solves Psiwin Woes

I broke down and bought a new Windows desktop computer.  My psiwin is working and I can shuttle files between my Psions, my Tungsten and my Windows machine.  Life is good.

jim - port townsend wa usa