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The Digest Sat, 14 Jan 2006 Volume 02 : Number 875
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- Subject: Psion 5mx + Nokia 6230i email settings query
- Bluetooth on a plane, NB screen & Orange/Nokia P990i, OC Suite andPsiWin,
Date: 12 Jan 2006 07:57:04 +0700
From: Max Ozinsky <address truncated>
Subject: bt keyboards
Hi all Psioneers and Symbians
On 5 Jan 2006 ktabic wrote:
>>>>> Well, using the freedom keyboard, it occasionally decides, when I'm
scrolling up, that I really want to scroll all the way to the top of the
document. Or even that I want to go up and down a bit. <<<<
This was one of the bugs that Rolf Vonau and myself reported to the manufacturers. We did not get a direct response from them, but in my experience the latest driver (ver 17002) by and large overcomes this problem. In the month I have been using the new driver I have only once had this problem. I suggest that you try this driver which is available at www.chainpus.com/support
>>>>>The other keyboard I have is a iTech bluetooth Virtual keyboard (very
cool) Unfortunately, neither yellow nor the bitween programs work with it
(dispite it being a HID 1.1 device). <<<<<
I tried the Yellow driver with the Thinkoutside bt keyboard but it did not work. It also does not work the Freedomkeyboard. Is there any keyboard this driver works with?
To Itamar:
On the 9500 the Bluetooth works even when the phone is switched off. Could you tell us if there are any other issues using the bt keyboard with the P910? For instance do you have the problem of the cursor moving to the top of the screen?
Many regards from a sunny and windless (at last) Cape Town
Max
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Cape Town, South Africa
+27 82 4 147 147
Date: 12 Jan 2006 10:36:49 +0700
From: James Woolley <address truncated>
Subject: RE: Jumping on a bus to POS
Peter,
Don't jump on a bus to POS if you are planning to go to their old premises in Streatham - when I passed by the other day, that shop front was closed. I understand they are now at Unit B, Lombard Business Park, 20 - 26 Purley Way, Croydon, CR0 3JP
James
Date: 12 Jan 2006 12:19:30 +0700
From: ABlake3459 <address truncated>
Subject: Subject: Psion 5mx + Nokia 6230i email settings query
Austin,
Many thanks for such an extensive (& admittedly somewhat daunting) response.
I shall now have to find several spare hours to follow it all and let you
know how I get on.
Thanks again,
Andrew
Date: 12 Jan 2006 12:25:39 +0700
From: Chris Cooper
Subject: RE: The Digest V1 # 874_16
Austin wrote:
> Below is the full set of settings that I use to connect my Psion to my Nokia 6230i to the internet over GPRS. ...
Austin, you deserve a pension funded by the list members for performing this Herculean task.
I've got a Nokia 6610i rather than a 6230i, and I use Orange rather than Vodafone (cheapest data rates I know of), but I might be trying out (variations of) your settings one of these days. I haven't been online via my Nokia since I had it repaired recently; it lost all its settings of course, and I, like an idiot, hadn't made adequate notes of everything. There's no great urgency to tackle the wearisome task of trying all possible combinations, so I haven't forced myself to do it. I've got your information safely on file against the day I try again.
Date: 12 Jan 2006 12:38:48 +0700
From: Anthony Cartmell <address truncated>
Subject: Re: The Digest V1 # 874_15
> From: Peter Julian & Associates <address truncated> > Subject: NB screen & Orange/Nokia P990i
<snip>
> firstly, my Netbook screen is starting to misbehave occassionally. The > lower half becomes gently striated. This effect is cancelled when I push > gently down on theupper surface of th ebattery housing. this suggests to > me that the screen cable is about to fail.
>
> Is this so?
No, it is the connection that gets loose. To fix it:
1) Back up everything, remove backup and main batteries.
2) Unpeel the right hand end of the oval Netbook sticker between the
screen and keyboard.
3) Undo the screw you find.
4) Remove the two covers for additional memory and system board under the
screen.
5) Remove system board and any memory board (take care not to touch metal
parts and avoid static electricity).
6) Remove the two metal pins from the front screen hinges.
7) Remove the plastic cover that has the oval sticker on it.
8) The screen connector is in the middle. Remove the plastic cover/clamp
(two screws).
9) Check that the ribbon cable is fully inserted into the
zero-insertion-force socket (the socket opens by sliding the tiny end tabs
outwards).
10) Insert a small piece of paper between the clamp and the connector, to
help with the clamping force. Some experimentation may be needed. Don't
make the paper insert too thick, or the cover won't go back on.
11) Re-assemble ribbon cable clamp, cover, hinge pins, boards, covers, etc. 12) Re-insert batteries, insert CF with system, switch on, hope!
You'll find similar instructions on the web too.
Anthony
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Date: 12 Jan 2006 12:40:37 +0700
From: Anthony Cartmell <address truncated>
Subject: Re: The Digest V1 # 874_15
> From: Mark Kenepp <address truncated>
>
> I have been contemplating taking the plunge to Symbian Series 80 and I > am anxiously waiting the release of the Nokia 9300i.
> Do any of you Series 80 users have both the Nokia PC Suite and PsiWin > installed on your desktop computer? Are there any issues?
Yes, No. (WinXP Home SP2)
Anthony
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Date: 12 Jan 2006 13:29:24 +0700
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Bluetooth on a plane, NB screen & Orange/Nokia P990i, OC Suite andPsiWin,
Answer to: Ian Chapple
Re.: Bluetooth on a plane - The latest craze in the world is Skype (talking over the internet to other users much like a phone call). My partner flew Lufthansa business class which gives the passengers an internet connection on the seat. My partner connected his laptop to the connection, activated Skype and called me from high up in the sky and we had a long business chat. He also logged in from his airplane seat into his computer at work and worked as if he was in the office. So, is it not all a little bit of nonsense ?
Answer to : Richard Corfield
Re.: Bluetooth on a plane - Ian is right. I just tried it and the Bluetooth is switched off the moment you change to flight mode.
Answer to: Alan Rabbitte
Re.: Bluetooth on a plane - I seem to remember that Bluetooth works only up to abt. 10 meters or so ? If that is correct, why should it interfere with anything in the plane ? Thanks for the solution, but the big advantage of a bluetooth keyboard is that you don't have to line up the phone with the IR port of the keyboard which works a lot easier than with an IR keyboard. As I don't fly that often, I will meanwhile stick with this keyboard (which anyhow I got from my colleague and did not have to pay for).
Answer to: Peter Julian
Re.: NB screen & Orange/Nokia P990i - That is a well known problem with the S7 and nB. I am not sure whether the cable will go or that it is something else (anyone with further info ?) but you might fine that the pressing will continue to solve the problem.
As to the P990i and Orange, did you ask them why not ?
Answer to: Mark Kenepp
Re.: OC Suite and PsiWin - With my UIQ phone I have both connection programs working side by side on my PC. The only "problem" is that when you want to install a program on the phone it will automatically try and install it with Psiwin and I have to rightclick on the .SIS file and choose the UIQ version.
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
Date: 12 Jan 2006 13:31:23 +0700
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Sending of emails
Quite often when I connect with my mBook the first time I try to send emails it will fail and than when I press send again (without disconnecting) the email(s) will be sent without problems.
Anyone any idea why this happens ?
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
Date: 12 Jan 2006 17:58:30 +0700
From: Kate Head <address truncated>
Subject: Re; #875_15 nB screen
>>Date: 10 Jan 2006 17:52:24 +0700
>>From: Peter Julian & Associates <address truncated>
>>Subject: NB screen & Orange/Nokia P990i
>>firstly, my Netbook screen is starting to misbehave occassionally.
>>... this suggests to me that the screen cable is about to fail.
>>Is this so?
>>Is there a temporary/permanent fix that I can apply, or shall I jump on
>>a bus to POS?
Hi there Peter,
Just to let everyone know that it looks like POS are now operating out of
Croydon, not Streatham (according to their website, anyway).
So check www.*pos*ltd.com before you jump on a bus!
All the best,
Kate!!
Date: 12 Jan 2006 20:58:24 +0700
From: Austin
Subject: RE: Nokia PC Suite and PsiWin
Hello Digesters
** Mark Kenepp ** asked:
>Do any of you Series 80 users have both the Nokia PC Suite and PsiWin installed on your desktop computer? Are there any issues?
I don't have a Series 80 phone but a 6230i, which nevertheless uses Nokia PC Suite - I have version 6.5.12 installed on my PC as well as PsiWin - and the main issue I had is that Psion sis files became associated with the Nokia installer after I installed PC Suite 6.5.12. Interestingly this didn't happen with any of the previous 3 versions of PC Suite that I have installed. Whilst this is soon changed back if you're reasonably familiar with Windows, this may be a problem if you are likely to want to install applications both to your Psion and your Nokia from the PC. My suggested workaround is, when you want to install to the Psion, instead to copy the sis file to the Psion and install it from there (remember to keep a copy of the sis file because it will be deleted on the Psion as soon as installation is complete). Many people would suggest that this is the safest way to install programs on the Psion anyway. You can then happily let sis files become Nokia installation files.
As an aside - why on earth do Nokia not allow versions of PC Suite to talk to each other? As a result, transferring contacts from one phone to another after an upgrade (e.g. from a 6230 to a 6230i) cannot easily be accomplished using PC Suite! This is because the "old" version of PC Suite doesn't recognise the "new" phone and vice versa so the backup and restore facility cannot be used. Nokia obviously expects users to synchronise both through Outlook which can work (if used with extreme care, a lot of patience and careful design of contacts according to strict criteria first) - but many people would prefer not to do it that way.
Best wishes
Austin
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Date: 12 Jan 2006 21:17:04 +0700
From: Ian Chapple <address truncated>
Subject: Route 66 for UIQ
While I haven't had the chance to use Route 66 for UIQ a huge amount yet, I have played with it a bit, so I am probably in a position to respond to Itamar's request by summarising my impressions thus far.
The package is very complete, including a Bluetooth GPS receiver + car charger, the software and maps on 3 CDs, a 256MB memory stick pre-installed with the application and a map of France (why France, I don't know) and windscreen and air-vent holders for the phone.
The first time you run the program, you have to activate it using the activation code on the inside of the CD case; this is fairly painless, and you get a confirmation quite quickly. The program can be registered for up to three phones I believe, which could be pretty useful for any multi-P910 families out there...
I decided to reinstall the application on my 1GB memory stick, along with maps of the Benelux, Iberia and UK & Ireland. It is also possible to choose which languages you want the spoken instructions to be made in; I chose English and Dutch, but something like 15 languages are supported. The installation program is a bit buggy; it asked me to insert disk 2 for the GB & Ireland map, but then couldn't find the file, even though it was there in the root. In the end, I cheated and did it by hand, ie. by dragging and dropping the files to the System\Apps\Route66\Maps folder on the MS. The map files themselves are all single .prm files, which makes changing the maps by hand quite easy. Some of them are quite large; the three maps that I installed totalled about 320MB. I also decided to copy all of the maps off the CDs and onto an external hard-disk; this avoids the need in the future to swap CDs when changing the installed maps.
The program itself seems to work fine, although there are one or two minor gripes. For example, if you start the program and it finds your GPS receiver, it asks if you want to set it as the default receiver, which is useful. However, if you ever run the program without the GPS receiver, you will be asked the same question the next time you do use the GPS device, which I find a bit annoying.
One big issue with the program is battery consumption. If the program is running but not actually doing anything (ie. just open in the background), battery consumption increases from about 1% per hour to about 7% per hour; this means that a fully charged battery will discharge overnight (I know, as it happened to me, which is why I tested it!). It's not a serious problem IF you remember to close the program when you don't need it. If you are navigating AND you have set the backlight setting to ALWAYS ON or DURING NAVIGATION, then your battery will die even more quickly; a car-charger for your P910 is definitely recommended if you want to avoid problems.
Choosing addresses to navigate to is very easy. You can search for an address from your contacts database, or you can enter an address manually. If you search for SPUI, which is a common street name in Holland, you get loads of possibilities. If you search for SPUI HAAG, you get about 9 possibilities, all in The Hague. Postcode searching is not supported, which I don't find a problem (at least not yet), although others might. It does have a History option, which contains the last XX locations that you navigated to.
Routes are generally calculated in a matter of seconds, which is pretty impressive. I haven't used it enough yet to judge the actual quality of the route chosen, but I have managed to test its ability to recalculate a route; as soon as you deviate from the designated route, it calculates a new one to take into account your current position I read Steve Litchfield's review over at AllAboutSymbian and know that he had one or two complaints about some of the choices made, but so far I haven't had to deal with any serious peculiarities. One thing that I have noticed is that it is not possible to ask it to navigate to a destination located on a different map from the one currently selected; it's probably not serious, but I don't know how other applications (ie. TomTom) deal with this.
The voice instructions are generally clear, though you may have to set the multimedia volume to maximum to hear them clearly. It seems that the volume control within the program does not override the system volume control, meaning that 100% volume in the program equates to whatever the multimedia volume is set to; not a problem, but something you need to be aware of.
The maps themselves have quite a range of scales, from 20m (per some unit on the screen) right up to 500km. Route 66 also supports 2D and 3D views (I like the 3D view a lot) and night-time colours, which are less bright than the day-time colours.
Route 66 also has support for traffic information (not all countries are supported), which works using a GPRS connection. This is a free service, unlike TomTom's equivalent, which is a subscription service. Their website (www.66.com) also has a scrolling traffic information display, which is freely available.
One thing that is really nice about having such a program on your phone is the ability just to locate things, even when you don't have the GPS receiver with you. A slightly trivial example of this occurred last Saturday. After flying back from Madrid, we were running very late, so decided to stop in the McDonald's next to the A4 motorway on the way back to The Hague. However, there is not much warning about which exit you need (we've missed it before, and by the time you see the restaurant you've already missed the exit) but by searching for McDonald's in the Zoom To menu (which enables you to display a point of interest on the map), we were able to determine which exit we actually needed; in case you ever need this, it's exit 5!!!
One thing that I know concerned Itamar was the potential problem of trying to use a BT handsfree kit at the same time as navigating using a BT GPS receiver. I can confirm that Route 66 has no trouble with this, and it even suppresses the voice instructions while you're talking, which is a nice touch.
Well, that's about it for now. As I don't have extensive experience of other packages, I am not able to say in what ways Route 66 is better or worse than the alternatives. TomTom seems to have the best reputation, but as their UIQ package is still not available (or it wasn't last time I looked) and as it will probably be more expensive when it does finally appear, I would certainly have no problem in recommending Route 66.
Hope this helps those of you who are considering taking the plunge, Ian.
Date: 13 Jan 2006 06:54:43 +0700
From: Steve <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Mp3Play
To : Chris Handley
Hi Chris,
I was interested in having a look at this program (Mp3Play) so I went to the page you suggested :-
http://www.pdastreet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60904
I then clicked on the download link on that page, i.e.
<http://psion.cshandley.co.uk/Mp3Play_050913.zip>http://psion.cshandley.co.uk/Mp3Play_050913.zip but unfortunately that link does not work !
I have tried over a few days in case the link had a problem but no luck !
Is there a problem ? or is it me ?
Hope you can help Chris.
Steve Denney