- Route 66 for UIQ

- RE: Psion 5mx + Nokia 6230i email settings query - Subscribe to GPRS First

- Re: The Digest V1 # 877_11

- bt keyboard

- Re.: 25 reasons - battery life

Date: 17 Jan 2006 18:05:30 +0700
From: Ian Chapple <address truncated>
Subject: Route 66 for UIQ

Itamar,
>>Re.: Route 66 for UIQ - Thanks for your first impressions. It appears you have the European version of the program.<<

Oops, forgot to mention that.

>>Does it have streetlevel for all the maps that come with the program ?I think with TomTom you have to buy maps separately for streetlevel in Europe.<<

For the maps that I have used, and for the addresses that I have looked for, it goes right down to street level.

>>Does the program work with the flap close as well or does it have to be open ?<<

It does work with the flip closed; there is no map displayed, but the voice instructions continue as normal.

>>Can you plan routes with multiple stops (stop-overs or via in the old Psion versions) ?<<

I haven't actually tried this, but I think so. It has a "Navigate via" option which allows you to add waypoints; I presume that is what you mean?

>>Are you able to add overlays to the maps ? (like a database of speed cameras) ?<<

To be honest, I have no idea if this is possible.

>>Thanks for your information, it sounds indeed interesting<<

You're welcome. As I said, I have very little experience in these sorts of things (I own a Garmin eTrex GPS unit, which is very nice but not a true navigation device), so I don't have anything to compare Route 66 to. However, from what I can see, Route 66 is a very complete package at a reasonable price.

Cheers, Ian.

Date: 17 Jan 2006 22:30:36 +0700
From: Austin
Subject: RE: Psion 5mx + Nokia 6230i email settings query - Subscribe to GPRS First

WRT Christopher Marwood and the above settings that I posted to The Digest V1 # 867.  Many apologies to all who cannot now re-find them and in particular to Itamar who has highlighted that postings should have a meaningful heading so that they can be easily searched.  Unfortunately, rather than putting "Psion 5mx + Nokia 6230i email settings" as my subject, I inadvertently hit reply and then failed to change the subject line from "RE: The Digest V1 # 867"!  Because of this I have decided to re-send the entire post with a meaningful subject line - I hope that's OK with all.

Before I go into the full detail again, I previously tried to highlight (at the end) a particularly important setting that it is all too easy to overlook.  In fact it took me several weeks to work it out and it is exactly the problem that you are having Christopher.

You said:

>The phone has been driving me nuts. I keep getting a message "Subscribe to GPRS First". I am of course already subscribed and encounter no such problems when switching back to my trusty S55. The error appears plenty of times if googled but I have yet to find a relevant answer.<

Indeed!  Like you, I never did find the answer on the internet - I found it by examining every setting of a colleague's phone who was happily using GPRS with his Palm.  The good news is that, if you've got this far, there's only one last thing to do and it's set out at Part "B (2)" below.  Good luck!

Many thanks for all the appreciative comments in relation to this issue.
I'd be interested to learn of any successful GPRS connections as a result - only fishing for more glory you understand...

The full post:
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This is the full set of settings that I use to connect my Psion to my Nokia 6230i to the internet over GPRS.  My main email account is with Pipex and is accessible both via POP3 and as webmail.  When using the Psion I find it simpler to use webmail for both receiving and sending.  However, I have also satisfactorily used XJMail as well and the information needed to use this is also included below, for information.  Despite my best efforts I have been unable to get smtpauth to work (hence my setting up XJMail) but my long term goal is to use smtpauth simply because it allows one to use the Psion's built in email program - XJMail is a standalone program.  Anyway, with apologies for the length of this posting but I thought it might be helpful to bring all these things together because, although they've been covered in previous Digests and elsewhere they tend to be for older phones or only cover part of the configurations necessary.  This post includes:

PART "A" To Configure the Psion 5mx
Part "B (1)" To Configure the Nokia 6230
Part "B (2)" APN for Nokia 6230
PART "C" Set up XJMail (details omitted from this posting as XJMail has been covered in previous Digests and can be quite complicated)
PART "D" Go Online

Preamble

GPRS (General Packet Radio Service) is a protocol for passing data over a mobile phone network.  It can be "always on" to allow continuous data connection for GSM mobile phones and allows faster WAP browsing, web surfing and email (potentially up to about 56000bit/sec though, like a landline, 30-40k is more likely); this compares with 9600 bps over GSM.

As well as being faster and always on the other advantage is that you pay for the amount of data you transfer, rather than for your online time per-minute.  Another major advantage of GPRS is that sessions can be suspended when an incoming voice call is detected so you don't lose calls – if online using GSM, the caller would get your “engaged” tone or be diverted to voicemail.

I should make some things absolutely clear.  Firstly editing your own phone or computer settings is entirely at your own risk.  If doing so makes your phone inoperable in another way (e.g. MMS) don’t blame me.  Secondly, if you search on the Internet you will find variations of these settings that may or may not work with your phone.  I can find no satisfactory explanation for why this should be other than, possibly, that the details of the various settings have evolved over time and in response to individual phones’ capabilities (though I can suggest no reason why this should be the case or why even it should be possible).  But, as you will see, GPRS settings can be very complicated and, because of the nature of the phone keypad, be very laborious to input or edit.  Finally, some of my settings defy logic (e.g. the setting that tells the Psion that my mobile phone modem is a “fixed
line”) but that’s how it works so I just accept it.

You should also remember that to connect over GPRS you will need to have your SIM card/ account “data enabled” (call your service provider if in doubt) and that these settings are for Vodafone pay monthly tariff.  They will not work with Vodafone prepay or for any other network.  For excellent advice about GPRS, MMS, APN, WAP, GSM and other mobile phone internet settings, visit
http://www.mobileshop.org/usertech/gprssettings.htm
or
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html.


Note that I have installed on my 5mx:
Email sync 1.15 and Email sync 1.15 upgrade
IMAP4 plugin
Mobile GPRS Update
Sink2
TCPIP update
The Dialler

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PART "A" To Configure the Psion 5mx: ---------------------------------------------------

Control Panel: Modems: Modem settings

(New/Edit)

Modem:
Name: (Call it what you like – I call mine Nokia 6230i GPRS
Speed: 115200 baud
Connect via: Infrared
Fax Class: Auto

Options:
Loudspeaker in use: Never
Volume: Quiet
Pause time for “,”: 4 seconds

Initialisation:
Init. (reset) string: ATZ
Data init. string (blank)
Fax init. string (blank)

Advanced:
Flow control: Hardware (RTS/CTS)
Terminal Detect (DSR/DTR): (enabled)
Carrier Detect (DCD): (enabled)
Modem Type: Fixed line


Control Panel: Internet: Internet service settings:  these settings depend on your service provider; these settings are for Vodafone):

Current Internet Service: (GPRS internet service settings’ name; see below) Show connection dialog: (enabled)
If idle, stay online for: 10:00 mm:ss
On exit, stay online for: 10:00 mm:ss

(New/Edit)

Service:
Name: (Call it what you like – I call mine Vodafone GPRS)
Connection Type: Dial-up
Use “smart” dialling: (blank)
Standard dial-up number: *99#
Other dial-up numbers (Edit): none

Account:
Manual login: (disabled)
Username: web
Password: web
Confirm password: web

Addresses:
Get IP address from server: (enabled)
IP address: (blank)
Get DNS address from server: (enabled)
Primary DNS address: (blank)
Secondary DNS address: (blank)

Login:
Use login script: (disabled)
Port settings: (blank)
Display window: (blank)

Advanced:
Enable PPP extensions: (enabled)
Allow plain text authentication: (enabled)
Use call back: (blank)
Call back behaviour: (blank)
Call back number: (blank)

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PART "B (1)" To Configure the Nokia 6230: --------------------------------------------------------

These settings are visible and editable in this order and in this form on the 6230.  On the 6230i they are completely different and, since the auto-configuration pre-installed on the phone worked first time, I suggest you use that.  In any case, I have been unable to create a manual set that works, despite matching them to those of the 6230 as closely as seems to be possible.  If it doesn’t work I suggest that you call customer support (for Vodafone call 191 from your handset).

To set up a new set of GPRS internet service settings:
1 Press Menu
2 Scroll up to Services and press Select
3 Scroll up to Settings and press Select
4 Stay on Connection Settings and press Select
5 Stay on Active Service Settings and press Select
6 Scroll down to an (empty) profile and press Activate
7 Scroll down to Edit Active Settings and press Select
8 Stay on Settings' Name and press Select press Clear to remove (empty) and enter Vodafone GPRS and press OK
9 Scroll down to Homepage and press Select, enter
http://wap:1999/vodafone.wml
10 Scroll down to Proxies and press Select, scroll to Enable and press Select
11 Scroll down to Primary proxy, press Select and enter 212.183.137.012
12 At Port (press Clear to remove numbers) and enter 8799 and press OK
13. Scroll down to Secondary proxy, at Proxy address: type 8080
14 Scroll down to Data Bearer and press Select, scroll to GPRS data and press Select
15 Scroll down to Bearer Settings and press Select
16 Stay on GPRS Access Point and press Select, enter wap.Vodafone.co.uk
17 Scroll down to Authentication type press Select, scroll to Normal and press Select
18 Scroll down to Data call type, press Select, scroll to Normal and press Select
20 Scroll down to Login Type and press Select, scroll to Automatic and press Select
21 Scroll down to User Name and press Select and enter wap, press OK
22 Scroll down to Password and press Select and enter wap, press OK
23 At Verify password enter wap and press OK
24 Press Back
25 Keep pressing Back to return to the operator logo

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PART "B (2)" APN for Nokia 6230 or 6230i: --------------------------------------------

This bit is easily overlooked or in my case, I did not initially understand what it meant or where to find it.

1 Press Menu
2 Scroll down to Settings
3 Scroll down to Connectivity
4 Scroll down to GPRS
5 GPRS connection – I use “when needed” but you could easily choose “Always online”
6 Scroll down to GPRS modem settings
7 Scroll down to Edit active access point
8 Edit both “Alias for access point” and “GPRS access point” to be
“internet”
9 You have now named the APN to be internet – back out of the menu

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PART "C" Set up XJMail:
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Details omitted from this document.  Download XJMail from
http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/%7Ektkawabe/densha_e.html#XJMail_beta


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PART "D" Go Online:
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You should now be able to go online with the Psion using GPRS on the Nokia. Incidentally, your Nokia modem should now also work with a laptop computer as well, provided you’ve got your laptop correctly configured and your Nokia modem installed – but that’s another story!

To use the 6230 with the Psion 5MX you will need to activate the Infrared port on both the Psion and the Nokia.

To do this on the Psion:
1 Press Ctrl-L and select infrared

To do this on the Nokia:
1. Press Menu
2. Select Settings
3 Scroll down to Connectivity
4 Select Infrared

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Date: 18 Jan 2006 10:11:18 +0700
From: Edgar Brazda Ph.D. <address truncated>
Subject: Re: The Digest V1 # 877_11

Hi Itamar,

> I think with TomTom you have to buy maps separately for streetlevel in > Europe.

I have TomTom Go 700 (my Christmas present), and it has all the available TomTom maps down to street level preinstalled on a built-in HD. I think it is even advertised roughly this way: ~ "door-to-door navigation through Europe out-of-box"

Edgar Brazda, Budapest

Date: 18 Jan 2006 11:03:12 +0700
From: Max Ozinsky <address truncated>
Subject: bt keyboard

On 15 Jan 2006 Itamar Engelsman wrote:

«««« The only "problem" I have is that i cannot find out all the functions of the different buttons like Ctrl, Fn and Altgr and than there is that button with the home sign on it. i can't find any manual on the web either. Any idea where I can find the instructions ? »»»»

The manual is in PDF form at www.chainpus.com/support

It explains all the functions. Unfortunately this is quite a big document and a slow site, so don't use your phone for the download. If you want I can email it to you.

Please let us know any other experiences you might have with the BT keyboard and the P910.

Many regards

Max
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Max Ozinsky
Cape Town, South Africa
+27 82 4 147 147

Date: 19 Jan 2006 00:03:23 +0700
From: Armin Podtschaske <address truncated>
Subject: Re.: 25 reasons - battery life

Answer to: Itamar Engelsman

Re.: 25 reasons - battery life - I am a little late with this answer, sorry.

> Yes, the power concept of the 5MX is great,
> but how long would your phone last on 2x AA batteries ?

My phone has a Li-polymer-battery with 770 mAh and 3.5 V.
Each of the NiMh-cells in my 5MX has 2500 mAh and 1.2 V.
That is 2.7 VA in the phone against 6 VA in the 5MX.
My phone would last probably twice as long on 2x AA batteries.
The AA-concept would reign supreme even in a cellphone.

Best regards,

Armin Podtschaske
Munich, Germany