- Again about bouncings

- Playing with SE M600i_first impressions

- Answer to Chris Holly

- good 5mx friendly game

- Advice re Mobile Phone please - Nokia N73 or SE K800i or whatever?

- Netbook on Network,

Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006
From: Digest administrator
Subject: Again about bouncings

Hi,
some of your providers continues to bounce the TheDigest.
Here are the anonymized addresses:

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I would like to ask the a.m. subscribers to inform us (ADMIN in the subject), whether you nevertheless are getting the digest or not.
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Rolf Vonau
The Digest Team

Date: 13 Sep 2006 11:11:33 +0100
From: Franco Cozzani <address truncated>
Subject: Playing with SE M600i_first impressions

Hello to everybody on the Digest!
I have been playing for a few days with my new SE M600i, which runs, as you will know,on Symbian 9 with UIQ 3.0.
Before writing about the many pluses and the few minuses, in a next contribution to the Digest, here it is an intro, on the preliminary issue of the M600i vs the P990, in case
Some of you might think of perhaps getting a P990.
These are very down-to-Earth considerations and not particularly intellectually refined: take it for what they are worth.
Q1: do you absolutely need a camera on your PDA/Smartphone?If yes, read no further and buy the P990.
If no, you are in good company with Nokia 9300, Nokia E 61 and my new SE M600i. The M600i is well built and is a very elegant and small smartphone, quite suitable to always have it with you. There are some limitation on the software, which however are the same with the P990i. I will report on these in a next contribution.
This message concerns mostly hardware and form-factor considerations.
Its new keyboard requires a learning curve, but it is quite usable and actually quite intelligent, and the handwriting recognition works much better than on my Palm T2.
To be sure, the m600i cannot replace the functionality of the thumboard of a nokia 9300 or 9500, although the touch screen helps a lot IMO, and the keyboard glows beautifully in the dark (I complained a long time on the digest about the dark Nokia keyboards).
But so is the fingerboard of the P990i! SE made a step back from the P910i, which was a good idea, although poorly implemented: in the P910, one could use the full screen, although the "keyboard" inside the lid was hardly usable and not lighted.
The one on the P990 is lighted but not much better to use, and one needs to carry a comparatevely larger device than my M600i for almost the same screen real estate.
SE should have developed further the idea of the inner thumboard on the P910, just making it larger. This would have resulted in a smaller screen in closed lid mode but a full screen mode when one opens up the lid.
As a result, the P990 wants to do everything and ends up doing well nothing: it is absolutely not a replacement for our beloved Psions; it is not impressive as PDA as a much cheaper Palm TX, because of the small screen, it is not so functional as communicator as a Nokia 9300, despite the lighted keyboard and the touch screen, because the thumboard is much worse, and - finally - is too bulky and expensive as a phone with some advanced PDA features. To be fair, someone may accept all of this, for sake of the camera.
If enough people complain about the P990 and do not buy it, may be SE will get things straighted up in the P1000.
Or Nokia will come up with a touch-screen, lighted-keyboard, new communicator.
For the time being, I will attempt to squeeze the maximum out of Symbian+UIQ in such a small, carry-it-everywhere package.
I will come back when I can with some direct impressions on the M600i OS and applications.
Hope this helps some of you,
With kind regards,
>Franco COZZANI >
Brussels

Date: 13 Sep 2006 15:11:09 +0100
From: Paul Bishop <address truncated>
Subject: Answer to Chris Holly

Did you get a cell phone yet to pair with the 5mx? I had a Nokia 6230 (actually 6230b) for a couple of years, but it was locked to Cingular and had too many glitches to work reliably.  It's a 3-band phone and has been replaced in Europe with the 6230i which will work on T-Mobile but not well on Cingular (you lose the 850 frequency).

If you sign up with T-Mobile, their phones use the European frequencies (900/ 1900) and you can buy a phone on the internet, not generally offered in the US.

I recently got a 6131 with which I'm very pleased.  It's a 4-band phone with radio and MP3 and accepts a 1 gig expansion card.  I'm told that Cingular will offer it soon - for now available on the internet in unlocked form.
Paul Bishop
Los Angeles

Date: 14 Sep 2006 01:26:44 +0100
From: "larry mortlock" <address truncated>
Subject: good 5mx friendly game

In reply to:
"Now if I could just come up with a good 5mx friendly game - "bombs" just doesn't cut it."

my best choice would be:
MBornes5
http://www.ericlindsay.com/epoc/sigame5.htm

Date: 14 Sep 2006 22:50:31 +0100
From: Hugh Dibley <address truncated>
Subject: Advice re Mobile Phone please - Nokia N73 or SE K800i or whatever?

Like others I have tried a couple or three (French based) phones to replace my 5mx (Nokia 9500, HTC 1640 SFR/French Vodafone and Nokia E61), but without success.
Have thus decided to stick with my 5mx for my needs* combined with a relatively simple phone - inc camera and radio.

As I have been spending more time in the UK, using my French SFR/Vodafone mobile was costing up to about euro€250 pm, so have set up our son's redundant Nokia 6230 (not i) on Orange PAYG, but this is also costing too much - we spend time in Sweden in the summer - so I need to get a UK mobile phone with a subscription. 
Vodafone Passport allows roaming/overseas calls to come off the free 500 minutes allowance, so this seems the best personal option at present.

I have been offered a Sony Eriksson K800i or a Nokia N73 for free.  Which would you experts recommend - or perhaps some other type?

From Austin's advice in The V1 Digest # 970 Thu 10/08/2006 00:10, it should be the Nokia N73, but are there any plaudits for the SE K800i - mainly better camera?

I was told I could change either phone I took within 2 weeks - as they brought the SE K800i first I have taken that (attracted by the photo facilities), but unless there is strong advice otherwise, intend to change it for the Nokia N73.  Or even another phone type??

This is partly because I have so far been unable to connect the K800i to my PC to transfer some photos - triggered a bunch of errors in the WinXP Control Panel/System/Hardware/Device Manager, possibly because the Sim card is still inactive as I have yet to receive the PAC info from Orange to transfer my PAYG number.  (I had similar trouble connecting to my old SE600z - which I lost on a Southern train/East Croydon station, now replaced by the Nokia E61 which connected without difficulty.)

Also I assume with the Nokia I should be able to synchronise Agenda with the 5mx more easily, which I have not done as yet?
With Symbian, are there any recommended programs I can download which are better than the Street, Route, language dictionaries, Michelin, etc, in the 5mx?  (I did try a English-French dictionary with the Nokia 9500 but it wasn't much better than the Collins on the 5mx, and of course without the 5mx keyboard....!)

Finally, I would appreciate advice on how best to use such a phone for a PC internet connection in Sweden - at a sensible price.  Currently am using Glocalnet for local dialup which is reasonably cheap, but obviously slow and ties up the phone, tho this is not so critical with mobile phones.  (We get a beautiful WiFi signal from a neighbour which worked beautifully until they had it securitized - and can't be bribed with frog wine to give me the code!)  I am hoping that Vodafone Passport would be an acceptable solution, coming off the 500 free minutes pm.  (We only spend 2 months a year here, so an annual broadband sub is not worthwhile - Sweden has had 24Mbs ADSL 2 for some years, at about £ UKL 20/mnth I believe.)

Apologies for the message length and if I am repeating other requests which have been answered already, but would greatly appreciate any advice.

Hugh Dibley
Rċċ, Helsingborg, Sweden
French mobile: +33   6 0385 2882 (costing €250pm with use in UK)
English mobile: +44 79 6908 7873 (On PAYG and also costing too much hence need subscription)

* I primarily use my 5mx for:
Agenda  - best weekly layout with easy use of Notes by Shift Ctrl Z, and have > 10 years back on the 5mx; Sheet - expenses, financial comparisons when making large purchases, flying hour log-book, etc; Calculator; Jotter for quick notes like contacts, numbers etc.  From Extras: Spell - for spelling & Thesaurus; Data - which besides contact info I use to make notes of phone calls & activities, restaurant meals, PINs, Usernames, Pwds, Software codes - attempts to correct crashes, etc, etc;  Word - longer meeting notes not made in Agenda, etc;  Time - local times, alarms, distance between places; Palmtop/TomTom London Street Planner Millennium & Route Planner for Europe & USA (better than some car installed systems eg Honda which showed A303 quickest to Devon vice Route M4/M5 taking nearly 1 hour longer taken on return); Palmtop Collins English-French dictionary; Berlitz Phrase Book - for very limited words/phrases in Danish, Dutch, English, French, German, Hungarian, Japanese, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Swedish (not as good at the 5 language translation in the Psion 3); Michelin Red Guide 2001 Hotel etc - not undated since so becoming of less value.
All of this is made possible by the 5mx keyboard and size - I carry it everywhere so can take notes, use it for whatever, if time becomes available - which can happen unexpectedly.

Date: 15 Sep 2006 11:52:43 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Netbook on Network,

Answer to: Bob

Re.: Netbook on Network - These are difficult problems as AFAIK you can't see on the Psion whether you connect to the network at all or not (if I am wrong I would be delighted to be informed how this is possible). As you network went down and you reinstalled some things I suppose it has got to do with the settings of the firewall or protection of the router. Did you protect yourself with the MAC addresses, and if so did you add the MAC address of the network card of your Psion ?  If you entered a new SSID code, did you remember to change it on the Psion as well ? You will have to search what settings you changed that you did not update on the Psion. Success.

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK