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In today's Epoc Digest 20 messages:

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- downloading

- CodeSafe update

- Re: 2Connect

- DATABASE CONVERSION

- Opera and Web Icons

- Checkdisk, Opera icon, Volunteer, Digest, Eulogy, 2Connect, Nokia,Ought, 9210

- AW: DATABASE CONVERSION

- RMRZip

- ALTERNATE COMPUTER

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 026 :Alternative computing ,ToshibaLibretto L5

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 025 : Ultraportable PC's

- CPen800c and MC218

- Ericsson R520/Converting DATA to PC format/Opera vs Web

- Re: Mako RevoPlus long term storage

- Re: Ericsson R520

- Opera Cookies / Configuration Settings

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 026

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 026 : Alternative mailers for Arm-basedsystems

- Missing Web icons

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 026

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 00:41:25 +0100

From: Stephen Wright

Subject: downloading

Nice to see the digest back....thanks for keeping it going.... my psion has been out of commission for a while...now its back, i wanted to download and reinstall the old software i used to have on it...went to tucows and downloaded stuff on my PC at work.....when i went to install it on the psion the epoc installer told me the files were corrupt and wouldn't install them. Any ideas? also are there better sites than tucows for accessing epoc software?

cheers

Stephen Wright

Nimbin

Australia

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 10:03:45 +0100

From: "Huub Linthorst"

Subject: CodeSafe update

Hi all,

Find the latest update of CodeSafe at my website. ___________________________________

Huub Linthorshttp://website.leidenuniv.nl/~linthorsthjm/

ExAb, CodeSafe, S5mboles, SpellX and more

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 12:08:04 +0100

From: "Thomas F. VAN DER ZIJDEN"

Subject: Re: 2Connect

Dear Rolf, dear digestees,

Rolf, thank you for your remark on 2Connect. I have tried a beta version myself. I very much like the concept, because you do not need additional software on the PC-site and yet you can access your Psion completely.

However, I failed to connect. The Psion just happily stated: "Connected", but the PC said: "Waiting to connect => Verifying user name and password => waiting to connect" and it just stood there, waiting for the connection (it did not give an error on the username and the password, it just flicked back to the "Waiting to connect").

Now, there could have been three problems:

1. The beta version was just not working.

2. I used Win 95 and that's not officially supported by 2Connect, but I used the hack described in the help file. It still did not work, but perhaps the hack was not supposed to work.

3. I did something wrong (the setup from the PC does not need additional software, but it does involve the 'direct cable connection' and that's a bit complicated).

I think I should apply for the non-beta version, but has anyone here in the group actually succeeded in getting 2Connect to work with a 5mx and win 95?

Answer to: Arent Kits van Heijningen (hope I got your name right).

I was slightly intrigued by your statement: "GB or as the say on the continent 'Gokt" As far as I know it are only the French who talk about octets (and not bytes) and their abbreviation for GB is therefore Go, not Gokt. It _is_ very smart to do so, by the way, because it will not be possible to get a confusion between bytes and bits (compare GB and Gb). And... I guessed you were Dutch, judging from your name and your e-mail address. AFAIK that's also on the continent, at least the European continent ;-)

Yours truly,

Thomas van der Zijde

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 12:23:33 +0100

From: Peter Keene

Subject: DATABASE CONVERSION

Hi Guys,

For Lothar Kammann re database conversion using Psiwin:

If you have already backed up, go to My Psion and click on Convert Files (your Psion does not have to be connected to the PC to do this).

If you haven't backed up do that first.

When you are presented with the conversion screen navigate to the Data file in your Backup folder that you want convert by clicking on the Browse button in the From: section.

Once you have selected the correct file click on Browse in the To: section and specify a destination folder.

Select Access in the File Type selector in the To: section.

Click on Convert Now.

Voila, c'est fait.

Regards,

Peter

Cape Town

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 13:32:08 +0100

From: Kevin Collins

Subject: Opera and Web Icons

Hi folks,

To Darryl Kempster re Opera icon:

Darryl, this definitely works for me. Go to the System/Apps/Web folder.

Highlight the web.app file therein, and cut and paste it outside the folder.

The web icon will soon disappear from your Extras Bar. Now cut and paste the web.app file back into the said folder, and close the folder. When you reopen it, all .html therein, and everywhere else in your Psion, will have the web icon.

Regards,

Kevin [Cork, Ireland]

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 13:35:17 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Checkdisk, Opera icon, Volunteer, Digest, Eulogy, 2Connect, Nokia,Ought, 9210

Answer to: Marios, Kevin & others

Re. Checkdisk - I have been around for "quite some time" on the Psion scene but don't remember anyone complaining about a disk problem. Are we paranoid using programs like checkdisk or is there a real possibillity for internal disk trouble ?

Answer to: Darryl Kempster

Re. Opera icon - I seem to remember (don't "kill" me if I am wrong) that renaming the Opera program .app to .bkp or so and than doing a soft reset restores the Web icons, but Kevin Thorne gave a different reply in digest no. 19 :

I've had this in the past too. You haven't mentioned if you've uninstalled Opera Darryl, but if my memory served me correctly, I used the Control Panel Add/Remove option to get rid of Opera but still found the icons displaying Opera. On closer inspection, I still found remnants of it left over. I went to C/system/apps and manually deleted the Opera folder that should have been removed by Control Panel to remove all traces of it and lo and behold - my icons changed back to nice friendly green Web icons again! Hope this helps.

Re. Eulogy - Enough has been written about Psion's mistakes. I don't think they ever thought to compete with the PC's running windows, and you can't compare the two platforms really. A CD rom would automatically make a laptop from any palmtop, and for what ? Most programs you can download, unzip and install straight onto your Psion. You can of course create your own alkaline battery pack with the correct voltage to plug into the mains connection on your REVO or netbook, this has been described how to do in various sources (Palmtop Magazine ?)

Answer to: Harold Fuchs

Re. Volunteer - Thanks, jotted your name down. Can you receive email on your Psion ? Next time, please don't repeat a whole message but only a relevant part thereof.

Answer to: Gary Y Reyes

Re. Digest - And of course to keep myself informed about developments etc. ..... <BG>

Answer to: Rolf Brunsting

Re. 2Connect - Do you know where one can find this program ?

Re. Nokia 92.. - A good point. I suppose Nokia is trying to sell their product, and I would prefer to read some more objective opinions. I suppose the reporting in Palmtop Magazine is quite good too. But no-one as yet answered me why the majority of 5MX users don't see the Nokia eventually as their next machine. Any opinions ???

Re. Ought - Here we are two "Dutchies" discussing English <g>. My Collins dictionary,thesaurus says as follows for ought:

1/ to indicate duty or obligation : "you ought to pay"

2/ to express prudent expedience : "you ought to see him"

3/ to express probabillity or expectation (in future) :

"you ought to finish this by Friday"

4/ to express a desire or wish on the part of the speaker :

"you ought to come next week"

So in fact you are both right. But the word "Panglossian" does not appear in the Collins ....

Further, it is very unfortunate in this world that too many parties disagree and fight over "facts". If only these were always clear to both sides .....

Answer to: Kevin Thorne

Re. 9210 - I would appreciate if you could inform us in due course with some more "on hand" reports about the 9210.

Bye,

Itamar Engelsman

London, United Kingdom

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 15:17:03 +0200

From: Lothar.Kammann

(Lothar Kammann)

Subject: AW: DATABASE CONVERSION

Hi Peter,

thank you for your help, but as you can see in the attachment it can not

convert the file. Who knows why!?

I have also tried to convert the file to csv (Windows) but all I get is

some legible letters and a lot of garbage.

Trying to convert it to Access, dBase III, IV, V it tells me NOT

POSSIBLE TO CONVERT. I do have the original Access program on my PC.

Do you have any other idea?

Regards,

Lothar Kammann

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

Von: Peter KeGesendet: Freitag, 5. Juli 2002 14:24

An: Epocdigest

Betreff: DATABASE CONVERSION

Hi Guys,

For Lothar Kammann re database conversion using Psiwin:

If you have already backed up, go to My Psion and click on Convert Files

(your Psion does not have to be connected to the PC to do this).

If you haven't backed up do that first.

When you are presented with the conversion screen navigate to the Data

file in your Backup folder that you want convert by clicking on the

Browse button in the From: section.

Once you have selected the correct file click on Browse in the To:

section and specify a destination folder.

Select Access in the File Type selector in the To: section.

Click on Convert Now.

Voila, c'est fait.

Regards,

Peter

Cape Town

[the part of this message, no consisting of text, was deleted]

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 16:24:17 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: RMRZip

Someone recently indicated that this program always has as standard setting to create new zipped files with icons, making it unreadeable for other zip programs. This is incorrect for at least the registered version, where under "tools", "preferences" you can set the default archive type to "standard zip" instead of "zip with icon".

Bye,

Itamar Engelsman

London, United Kingdom

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 18:32:31 +0100

From: Peter Keene

Subject: ALTERNATE COMPUTER

Hi Guys (again),

For Darryl Kempster re alternate computing:

Like you my Psions have always been my main computer, although, in my case, the family uses a PC so I have access to that for backups and conversions. But I have to ask, why do you want a CD ROM for your netBook when you can have CF or an IBM microdrive?

Regards,

Peter

Cape Town

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 20:59:13 +0100

From: "Arent Kits van Heijningen[106016.3614]"

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 026 :Alternative computing ,ToshibaLibretto L5

Darryl Kempster wrote on

5 Jul 2002 04:47:09 +0000 about :

Alternative computing

>>Psion seemed to have it all for the taking at one point - a serious challenge to the Windows dominated computing world with it's memory hungry, crash-prone, low battery life, slow boot up etc. etc... You get the picture. But instead of becoming a fully fledged alternative platform for mobile computing it chose to tie itself to Windows as an adjunct, and not a very adept one either with it's buggy PsiWin package.<<

Curious to see that WindowsCE and Palm are going in the opposite direction , the watershed for CE being the release of 2.11 and HP's release of the 680/690LX in 1999 , the Compaq ( now HP too ) iPaq went one step further with its sleeve system where hackers ( with a little bit of help from CompaQ and now HP ) discovered to their glee that a complete IDE interface is available for hookup of real harddisks ( not just IBM's MicroDrive

Psion failed **big time** to catch up with the competition in terms of keeping the platform up-to-date and getting involved with its user/developer base

Thanks to Linux and open-source PIM's like Familiar and Opie ( now getting a passionate following in Germany ) PocketPC has stolen the thunder from Psion and is now poised for the final Borg-like assimilation of the Palmpilot and the Zaurus Classic

Palm , however will supply the operating environment for one of Asustek's Pocketpc devices

A combination of Palm's interface with the hardware and os capabilities -if done right , think MacOS X -like - of PocketPC could possibly be a killer device

Current PocketPC's try to shoehorn a desktop OS and applications in a small form-factor device , with sometimes devastating results when it comes to user-friendliness

>>Psion will very quickly become outmoded as the windows empire moves inexorably on. A great pity.<<

Not just the windows empire , linux and palm too ..

About ultraportables/ultrapersonals :

Here's someone's vieuw on the most recent iteration of the one that started it all : Toshiba's Libretto

Note to Itamar : This one DOES have a keyboard and a decent screen size , its weight -however- is almost the same as thesmallest Portege model wich has a really good keyboard and ditto screen

>> America Second

Why Toshiba won't sell you the coolest laptop around.

By Bill Barnes

Posted Tuesday, July 2, 2002, at 1:12 PM PT

Toshiba Libretto L5

I'm typing this on a Toshiba Libretto L5, a full-function laptop

that takes up less space on my desk than a comic book. With built-in

wireless networking I can surf the Web anywhere and everywhere in my

house. Finally, I can read Slate in the bathroom! The laptop is so

light that I carry it with me wherever I go. Who needs a PDA with a

laptop this small? There's only one problem. Toshiba won't sell you

one. Like many of the hottest laptops around, it is sold only in

Japan.

Two years ago my wife and I spent an afternoon touring Akihabara,

the Tokyo neighborhood devoted to consumer electronics. Everywhere

we looked we found devices more advanced than any I'd seen in the

United States. The gadgets were smaller, lighter, more

feature-packed, and just generally cooler than models sold here. It

was frustrating and almost insulting--why don't we deserve the best

too? There are several explanations for this phenomenon:

1. The Japanese are experts in small. If you lived in a country as

tightly packed as Japan, you'd be an expert in small, too. Because

of their living conditions, the Japanese value small, and they're

willing to pay for it. Americans think smaller is cooler, but

Japanese think smaller is better.

2. The Japanese use their home market for market research. Japanese

electronics manufacturers flood the market with dozens of variations

on a theme and then cull the most successful products for export.

There is some truth to this, but since some of the best sellers in

Japan never make it to our shores, it's not the whole story.

3. The Japanese are more prone to follow trends. Many of the devices

you can find in Japan but not here reflect some hot trend we haven't

caught on to yet (and some that we may not--the electronic

equivalents of pet rocks). In Japan, electronics buyers consider

trendy features necessary, even if they'll never use them. The

technology Bluetooth, which allows laptops to wirelessly upload

movies from your camcorder or to connect to the Internet using your

cell phone, is much bigger in Japan than here. Same for 802.11b

Wi-Fi wireless networks, which are slowly catching on in the United

States but have taken off like wildfire in Japan's densely packed

urban areas.

4. The Japanese are more feature-conscious than price-conscious.

Japanese consumers want the smallest, lightest, most feature-rich

laptop they can proudly show off to their friends. Americans are

more likely to crow about the great deal they got. Take this test.

If you could get a full-featured 3-pound laptop for $1,999, how much

more would you pay for a 2.5-pounder? Or to get it an inch smaller?

If your eyes glazed over just thinking about that question, you are

in the American majority. If your answer was closer to "anything,"

break out the sushi. In your soul you are more Japanese than

American.

Toshiba Libretto L5

There's some good news for the Japanese-at-heart gear-head who

demands the best at any price. Americans can get their hands on the

Libretto and on a dozen or so other hot laptops at [28]Dynamism.com,

a specialty importer that focuses on Japan-only consumer

electronics. (Dynamism lent me the [29]Libretto.) They buy the

laptops in Japan, install a U.S. version of Windows, and configure

them with the correct hardware drivers (sometimes a nontrivial

operation--drivers for Japan-only hardware do not always work on

U.S. versions of Windows), then send them to you. They'll even

install a U.S. keyboard on some models (mine had one), though the

normal Japanese keyboard has English characters and works fine.

Their not-inconsiderable markup (about 30 percent) covers all taxes,

duty, and shipping fees. If required, they'll ship your laptop to

Japan and back for warranty work, and they'll even send you driver

updates for free.

Dynamism's Libretto starts at $1,999. To get one in Japan you'd pay

about $1,500, including tax and duty (plus travel costs). If a 30

percent markup is too much for you, there's always someone selling a

Libretto on eBay. But I wouldn't go that route. International

auction purchases are even less reliable than domestic ones, the

driver issues can be daunting, and based on the prices I saw on some

of the units for sale, I strongly doubt they come with legally

licensed software.

The Libretto is not for everyone. The 10-inch 1,280-by-600 screen is

amazingly bright and clear, but if you find yourself squinting at a

normal laptop display this one will give you eyestrain. The keys are

tight compared to a standard keyboard, and even tighter if you're

used to an ergonomic keyboard. The Transmeta Crusoe microprocessor

(comparable to an Intel Pentium III) normally runs at 800 mhz but

slows down when operating solely on battery. Sometimes it was too

slow to display certain intensive video formats. I got three-plus

hours out of the built-in battery when doing nothing but typing, but

hard-disk-intensive operations like watching movies or listening to

music drained it much faster. And don't plan on watching movies on

the airplane. You'll need to buy a separate DVD drive that plugs

into the standard USB interface or PC-card slot--and that probably

means a separate power supply and/or battery. Finally, if you hate

the "eraserhead" mouse-substitute then you'll hate this one too.

What makes the Libretto so great is that it takes up very little

space. At 10.5 inches wide by 6.6 inches deep, it actually sits

between the keyboard and monitor of my desktop, allowing me to check

mail on one machine while running Photoshop full-screen on the

other. On a plane that advantage is magnified because you can use it

even when the bozo in front of you has his seatback fully reclined.

In fact, I'll go out on a limb and claim that without advances in

speech or handwriting recognition, a laptop's footprint can't get

substantially smaller than this and still remain usable. You can't

get any smaller without shrinking the keyboard to the point where

you can't touch-type.

Based on the number of strangers who have come up to me in cafes and

left with Dynamism's URL firmly in hand, Americans will pay for

small and light when it is done right. And I have seldom seen

products done more right than this. I hope Toshiba changes its mind,

because I'm not buying one of these machines if I have to pay the

$500 markup. But that's because I'm more American than Japanese.

Webhead Extra: After spending more time with [30]file-sharing

programs, I heartily recommend [31]LimeWire and heartily

disrecommend [32]Grokster. LimeWire is significantly easier to use

than Grokster, which is almost a poster child for poorly designed

user interfaces. Perhaps one reason is that LimeWire comes in a

for-pay "Pro" version and thus can afford to pay its programmers,

whereas Grokster relies on income from dozens of "spyware" software

makers who pay to be included in the Grokster download. Also, on

this subject, many wrote to say that while file-sharing programs may

offer more music more easily than the more legitimate services, they

often do so with widely varying levels of quality. Quite so.<<

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 20:59:32 +0100

From: "Arent Kits van Heijningen[106016.3614]"

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 025 : Ultraportable PC's

Itamar Engelsman wrote on:

2 Jul 2002 13:58:04 +0000 about :

Ultra PC's, 10 yrs old PC, UUD, MochaPPP,

> Re. Ultra PC's - Thanks, but looking at these devices I think they are too small for me, and without a decent keyboard I could not work on them.<< The idea behind Ultraporable/ultrapersonal PC's is to have full-blown PC capabilities in a PDA/Smartphone -like form-factor and size or on a postcard-sized PCB , they are not so much intended to work on them as well as work with them , tosupport a PDA and conventional mobile phone while on the road or to empower devices like printers , set-top boxes ,GPS'es and the like with capabilities that otherwise require hookup to a desktop or notebook

> Re. UUD - The network works with Compuserve Classis without problems, I used it last time I was in Paris some months ago.<<

Maybe that will change , after the demise of Worldcomm ...

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Date: 5 Jul 2002 21:00:28 +0100

From: Dimitri Corpakis

Subject: CPen800c and MC218

Dear all,

In one of my recent trips to the UK, I bought the CPen800c in the hope that combined with the IrDA port of my MC218 would have made a nice pair,

capable of scanning things in the move and transferring them on the PDA.

The first glitch was the power adapter: although the machine was bought in Birmingham airport, it featured only UK style mains battery charger (the 800C model works only with a rechargeable battery). When I discovered that in Brussels where I live, it was too late. So I went on the Web and solved the problem by buying an adapter for Europe from a UK travel accessories site.

More serious problems came later on when I tested the IrDA connectivity with the MC218. In standard text file transfer things seem to happen normally, but there is no file transferred really to the MC218. Things work well only in the Contacts application, but this is pretty useless, except for reading visiting cards and transferring them to the MC218.

It looks like the MC218 does not subscribe to the IROBEX specification that CPen follows, except for the Contacts app. The Notes application on the

CPen which is by far the most useful because it allows you to scan text on the move (works very well) is useless with the MC218.

Does anybody know of any piece of software that could solve this problem?

With thanks in advance

Dimitri Cor

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Date: 7 Jul 2002 01:49:27 +0100

From: Darryl Kempster

Subject: Ericsson R520/Converting DATA to PC format/Opera vs Web

Alan Jones asked about the Ericsson R520. I had the misfortune to lose my SH888 last year and bought one of these offline for £120 as the closest thing to use with my Series 7. Didn't know they were still available. They didn't appear to be around for very long which I take as a bad sign. I am now on my third handset in under a year and only reason I haven't sent this handset back to Ericsson is that I've been on the road constantly with work or travel. First one developed a fault where other person couldn't hear me, second one used to randomly dial numbers by itself (spooky - i've watched it do it!) and this one has near silent ring (have to use vibrate all the time) and sometimes impossible to hear the other person unless I'm in a quiet room. But when received it was still full of phone numbers from previous owner so my guess is Ericsson didn't fix it when originally returned.

Never bother with GPRS or WAP so can't comment. As a modem works ok except that Ericsson in their wisdom have disabled the fax by infrared option. Have to use the RS232 cable which (1) doesn't plug into my psion ; (2) you have to buy separately.

A digestee in Australia helped me round this by selecting fax class 1 (thanks again!), which does work although haven't as yet seen the end result myself. I have a separate "R520fax" setting in "Modems" for this.

Interface is fairly slow to navigate but think it should be the same as the R320. Setting up the email function caused me a lot of problems. Ericsson were no help (advised me to use thir preferred ISP!) A guy I met in New Zealand advised me to enter the DNS address which works for one of my addresses but not the other one.

Has a speakerphone function which is very handy, triband for the US, bluetooth (no good with a Psion), Li-ion battery. Generally ok if mine worked properly but still hold a preference for the SH888. Nothing else really appeals apart from the R380 which Expansys are doing a deal on at the moment. (Also doing R520 for £130 SIM free) Was gonna try and get an R320 as well cos the fax via infrared option still worked on that phone and just keep the 520 for when I go to the States. But (cheap) supplies have dried up and apparently were a lot of software issues.

Annoying feature is no facility to move nos from old SIM to new style multi-no contacts phone book. Have to edit each entry so I've left mine on the SIM card!

BTW if you do get one make sure they upgrade the firmware cos I was able to freeze my phone by playing one of the games!

Let me know if you need any of the settings.

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Lothar.Kammann asked about converting DATA to PC format.

"I have to convert a large DATA file from my S5mx Pro to a PC format. The file is approx. 850kB in size."

Never tried this myself (I'm PC free) but sure I remember something like this appearing on the digest before. If I remember correctly there's a size limit on data files so all you had to do was split the file into two and then convert each half. On the other hand I could be thinking of something completely different!

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After many attempts and numerous resets finally got rid of my Opera icons. Not sure what did it in the end but many thanks to those who offered suggestions.

Darryl

In Blackpool on tour with The Bluetones

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Date: 6 Jul 2002 20:59:35 +0100

From: Dan Siegel

Subject: Re: Mako RevoPlus long term storage

Dear All -

Just back from a lovely two weeks in France. Useda Mako Plus I bought as a backup and lighter version of my 5MX. I do prefer it for vacations but prefer the 5mx for daily use. If I do not use the Mako for extended periods (greater than a month or two) is it best to charge it occasionally or just let it be. Opinions with rationales appreciated. Thanks.

Daniel Mark Siegel MD, MS (Management and Policy)

Phone 631-751- MOHS / 631-751-6647

Office Fax 631-751-6644 / 631-980-3893

PERSONAL FAX(in USA): 586 283 0510 via eFax (in UK) 44 87 07 63 00 82 via PumaOne

www.skincancer.dermdex.ne

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Date: 7 Jul 2002 04:14:58 +0100

From: Steve Baker

Subject: Re: Ericsson R520

Reply to Alan Jones (and other interested parties):

I have been using an Eric R520 with my netBook - and a 5mx and a S7 - without

any problems for several months now.

I do not use it for GPRS, due to my location, but data connections - including

WAP - work very well. I particularly appreciate the phone setting that keeps

the IR link alive until 10 minutes of inactivity have passed. I have no

complaints about the phone with regard to it's integration with the Psion.

For configuration, I just use the default Ericsson IR phone settings.

For those interested further in the virtues/failures of this phone:

1. The battery life is BRILLIANT, especially with the high capacity battery

fitted.

2. PhoneMan Pro will suck out all you phonebook entries, giving multiple name

entries on the Psion for phone number against an individual. As writing to the

extended phonebook is not yet supported, however, use contacts to select and

beam contact info into the phone.

3. I use the Bluetooth connection a lot with an Eric Headset, but alas cannot

find a way to get the Psion to use this communication method.

4. I use my phone a great deal, for all sorts of communication tasks. It has

been faultless, even after a couple of 1-2m drops. I purchased it from

Expansys (www.expansys.com) as a package deal with the headset for UKP250, and

they delivered by FedEx within 3 days.

5. My ONLY complaint about this phone is that it is not built by Nokia. If

ONLY it had the Navi-Roller and command structure from the 7110.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Steve Baker

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

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Date: 7 Jul 2002 04:31:28 +0100

From: Steve Baker

Subject: Opera Cookies / Configuration Settings

Hi Folks,

I am having a problem with Opera. I have the fully registered V5.2 installed.

The other day I tried to access my online banking system. I found, to my

dismay, that there was no way that I could get the preferences to accept my

modified security settings. I would save and exit, but when I went back in

again, the setting were as they were previously. As I cannot get the system to

accept cookies, my attempts to access the site fail each time.

I am running Opera on a netBook, and have search the Opera FAQs, and even

reloaded the netBook OS in an attempt to flush out any 'rogue' files that may

be affected the configuration. I have also tried the installation on C: and

D:/E:, with the same results.

Help!

Regards,

Steve Baker

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

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Date: 7 Jul 2002 07:48:40 +0100

From: "vlad

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 026

To: Itamar re: Future of Epoc Digest

Thanks for the generous decision! And I do hope this might contribute to a "reprogramming" of the epoc-marketting itself... who knows?

> Darryl wrote:

> Sorry for the eulogy but it's 4am and I had the urge to write. Thought it > might make a good topic for discussion.

MAny feel like this and I have gathered the occasional small crowd while using it and (even before midnight ;-). It seems like we're right but s-o in the marketing must've disagreed... A pity indeed...

best

vlad

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Date: 7 Jul 2002 13:46:54 +0100

From: "Arent Kits van Heijningen[106016.3614]"

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 026 : Alternative mailers for Arm-basedsystems

To all readers ,

Recently there was a flurry of activity on the psion ng's about the lack of a good alternative for MessageSuite that supports SMTP authentication , APOP and eventually IMAP4

About 2 years ago I was in search for an Email client for my HP 680 LX that could save messages directly to a Compactflash memory card

A search through various Japanese Web sites resulted in two candidates : npop and QMail

First QMail :

Downloaded the archive ( Amiga format ! ) and expanded the relevant files and popped the whole shabang in its own subdirectory under \.\..\mail

It was the "english" version , wich meant it could run fine on my UK HP 680 LX

However that was all that was there in terms of English language support , there was no text in the menus an the readme was in japanese (=unreadable on an UK version machine )

Using a registry editor I managed to get it up and running and found that it after all was a nice mailer

It is however a dog to set up properly and worse , it could not decode binary attachments

So on went the search and the result was nPOP , wich was much easier to set up as there was an English-language .ini file , also it could handle MIME better than QMail , including decoding of binary attachments Development of that one was very fast with new versions appearing almost weekly and tomy great surprise a serious effort was made in anglification , first came the possibility to set the characterset , later on followed by English-language menus and readme as well as the author saving the ( now monthly ) builds in the more common PC archive format ( .zip ) on the server

WinCE gurus Chris D'Herrera and from Holland Marlof Bregonje also did theirs to improve it and now it has passed the magical 1.0 mark ( but it was stable and bug-free from 0.67 onwards

And now the results :

First nPOP ,because it is small , reasonably fast and open-source so it could probably made to run on the Psion Revo/Diamond Mako as well as Nokia's 9210/9290/7650 smartphones

It is absolutely ** no frills ** ( hence its stability ) and mail is saved to flash upon exiting and reloaded into RAM when opening the application Another feature ( although subject to the vagaries of the Internet mail system ) is the ability to sync the local mail folder with the one on the server ( i .e you can mark individual messages for deletion on the client and they will be deleted on both sides upon next sync )

Installation and setup are very simple , the application is totally self- installing and can be run completely from removable media like flash cards

nPOP can be found at : http://www.nakka.com/soft/npop/index_eng.html

Now on to QMail

This can be found here :

Linkname: QMAIL 2.1

URL: http://home.att.ne.jp/omega/snak/software/qmail2.1/

Charset: iso-8859-1 (assumed)

Server: Apache/1.3.23 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_ssl/2.8.4

OpenSSL/0.9.6b

Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 18:15:51 GMT

Last Mod: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 04:05:06 GMT

Content-Length: 3920 bytes

Owner(s): None

size: 40 lines

mode: normal

Link that you currently have selected

Linkname: Download

URL:

http://home.att.ne.jp/omega/snak/software/qmail2.1/qmail-hpc- wce201ja-sh3-2.1.16.zip

The root url for all versions is :

http://home.att.ne.jp/omega/snak/software

After my first encounter with it , my opinion was that it is very promising and when I visited recently the author's Web site - wich by the way had moved to ATT.NE.JP - , I discovered fresh archives there for WindowsCE 2.0 and above

Downloaded and installed the stuff and , yes English - language menus were there in all their glory

Also there was complete MIME support

So off I went testing the various versions and found thar the 2.0 versions were the most stable ( but still somewhat quirky ) , the 2.1 versions require something more recent and endowed with more RAM than I have in order to run stable )

Again this is still a dog to set up properly but now the rewards are great ( if someone can get past the quirks ) and you have something approaching a desktop mailer with respect to features if you succeed

It is also blazingly fast ( except on exit , wich if you have other applications or File Manager sessions open can literally take forever - may be a SH-7700 + 16MB RAM issue )

Minor bug : Adressbook pops up -even when opening received mail received mail - unless full-screen vieuw is selected ( probably result of crap remaining in the mail files )

Now the great :

Foreground/background colours for message text can be selected ( I opted for yellow for unquoted text and aqua/lime for quoted text )

Font types and sizes can be selected as well ( I use 14 pts Cambridge for detail vieuw and 12 pts Tahoma for the list vieuws )

Messages can be sorted into virtual folders and even moved between accounts/mailfiles ( one mailfile per account ) as well as exported to / imported from files

The import function also allows customised signatures , wich can be as fancy as you want , if you have a directory for each mail correspondent , you can even put one in each with only the info relevant for that recipient

Qmail gave me also a possibility to test IMAP4 but could not get it to work ( bug in server or incompatible version QMail has no autodetect for X-IMAP4 and MS-IMAP4

Porting to PSION/EPOC :

Of the two nPOP is a better candidate for an EPOC port , because it is lightweight and source is available

It could run -albeit slowly - on the s5 classic , the osaris and the revo/mako

It should fly on the s7/netbook/netpad

QMail is a different story , it is big ( about 1Meg ) , it could run fine on 16 megs of RAM ( if you close all other apps ) on the s7 , but it really needs 32 megs or better in order to behave nicely ,so forget about revo and s5/mc218 , and there's no source code available

Anyone ?

thnx

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Date: 7 Jul 2002 18:53:41 +0100

From: Kevin Thorne

Subject: Missing Web icons

Reply to Darryl Kempster:

Subject: Opera vs Web

Regards

Kevin Thorne

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Date: 7 Jul 2002 21:13:20 +0100

From: "vlad

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 026

To: Itamar re: Future of Epoc Digest

Thanks for the generous decision! And I do hope this might contribute to a "reprogramming" of the epoc-marketting itself... who knows?

> Darryl wrote:

> Sorry for the eulogy but it's 4am and I had the urge to write. Thought it > might make a good topic for discussion.

best

vlad

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