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In today's Epoc Digest 50 messages:
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- Deletion from the subscribers list (1)
- Deletion from the subscribers list (2)
- Deletion from the subscribers list (3)
- Init and Data Strings
- Continuity of the Digest
- Re: Printing from the Emulator
- answer to Nic Dersley; to Itamar & Michael
- Charge your Revo your way, I charge it mine...
- Re: DreamConnect
- Re: Dream world Psion
- Spares anyone?
- GPRS
- Post dated email
- Post dated email
- Post dated email
- Email message headers (ER3, Message Suite 1.5)
- NETPAD ANSWERS 2
- Re: Journal App for EPOC?/GPS
- RE: EPOC PDF / Zipped Archives
- NETBOOK ROMS
- Re: Survey
- The end is not nigh
- Re: EPOC PDF
- Re: Dream Connect
- Old digests, Arent, Journal, Compaq 2010c,
- Wow! (4 Peter Keene) OT
- Re: a dreamer's updated 5mx & NetPad (4 Owen)
- Re: PDF Zine (4 Andy)
- Re: "Power Hunger" of S5
- Keith's site! (4 Keith)
- Re: 2010c (4 Nic)
- Re: Daily Journal (4 Nic)
- Re: Printing from the EMU (4 Keith?)
- Beaming Text Files for FREE
- Re: Psion RAM upgrades
- Re: NETPAD - FINAL PART
- Re: Color Magic, Soft Resets:
- Re: DreamConnect
- Re: Colour Screen, Size of 7, Revo 3, RMRZip and WinZip
- Re: RMRZip (4 Itamar)
- Sorry for the flood!
- Mako EpocConnect & Win XP
- EPOF PDF, Dream 5MX, Post dated Email
- Re: Dream Connect
- Re: Digest plus Query on Nokia
- SMTP over GPRS
- netBook + GPRS
- Post dated email / 'Inclusive minutes' ISP number
- DigestSubject macro; Dream 5mx
- Nokia 9210: Plantpot PDF: reply: questions:
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Date: 28 Aug 2002
From: Michael Degn
Subject: Deletion from the subscribers list (1)
Message to: Moshe Nahir
Since digest no. 57 your email address gives "quota exceeded" and we had no other option but to delete you from the list of subscribers. We hope you will read this and resubscribe with a different address.
Regards,
Michael Degn
The Epoc Digest Team
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Date: 28 Aug 2002
From: Michael Degn
Subject: Deletion from the subscribers list (2)
Message to: Ronald Thompson
Since digest no. 56 your email address gives "permanent fatal errors" and we had no other option but to delete you from the list of subscribers. We hope you will read this and resubscribe with a different address.
Regards,
Michael Degn
The Epoc Digest Team
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Date: 28 Aug 2002
From: Michael Degn
Subject: Deletion from the subscribers list (3)
Message to: Pierre
Since digest no. 55 your email address gives "bad destination mailbox address" and we had no other option but to delete you from the list of subscribers. We hope you will read this and resubscribe with a different address.
Regards,
Michael Degn
The Epoc Digest Team
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 03:54:06 +0100
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: Init and Data Strings
>Date: 24 Aug 2002 21:47:26 +0100
>From: Rolf Brunsting >Subject: Re: Initialisation string for Siemens S45
Rolf,
A general question on "strings".
If one had a mobile device with a program that only had Init String in the configuration, is there a way to include in this same string the string for "Data String"? The objective here is to be able to set up the connection over IrDa (Mobile Phone) to connect on GPRS or HSCSD.
And thanks for your inputs on setting up for fax on the Psion.
Gary
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 03:58:52 +0100
From: "Gary Y Reyes"
Subject: Continuity of the Digest
>Date: 25 Aug 2002
>From: Michael Degn >Subject: Arent banned from the Digest
Michael,
I was one of those who received the email from Arent. I found it a strange message and ignored it, specially because we continue to receive the Digest on a regular basis.
Thanks to Itamar for sending the clarification email and the reassurance about the continuity of the Digest.
Gary
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 07:10:12 +0100
From: Julie Wills
Subject: Re: Printing from the Emulator
>From: Keith Giles
>Subject: Re: Printing from the Emulator/Dream Machine/Demise >
> > Sorry Keith - you can't. The only option you have is to print to file > and then copy the file to your printer.
>Can you explain just how I do that?
Sorry Keith, I'll expand on my answer:
Either use Ctrl-P or choose Printing from the File menu, and then Print. (BTW, in the emulator, you can use F1 as the Psion's MENU key.)
Then click on the printer button or use Ctrl-P to choose a printer (e.g. HP Laserjet 4, General, etc.) NB: Use General or a real printer, not Printer via PC.
Underneath each real printer choice another box labelled "via" will
appear. Choose via "File"
Use Ctrl-S or click on Settings, and choose a filename (the folder and drive will be your emulated Psion's drive, not your PC's). If you chose General as your printer, it's a good idea to use a .txt extension, so that you can easily open the file in Windoze ... although you won't get any
fancy formatting this way.
Now when you print, your output will go to whatever file name you gave.
I haven't checked it, as my emulator paths aren't set up at the moment, so I don't have quick access to any of my third party programs, but AFAIK this should work in all programs.
So, now you have a file on your PC. If you used General and call the file <something>.txt, you can use Windows Explorer to navigate to the folder containing your emulator's drive and open the file by
double-clicking. This will get opened with Notepad - or whatever you've got .txt associated with on your PC - and you can print from there.
If you picked a "real" printer, then there will be printer instructions embedded in the file, so you should copy the file directly to your
printer. This used to be easy with DOS, but in their infinite wisdom, Microsoft missed out the facility to just copy a file to a printer under Windoze. I think you can hold of utilities that will do this, though - try Tucows.
To do it from a DOS window, choose MS-DOS prompt from the Start menu. You should get a prompt that looks something like
C:\>
The C:\ bit is your current path. You can navigate to your folder using
"D:" (etc.) to change drives, or
"cd "<folder>, e.g. cd Psion
C:\Psion>
cd backups
c:\Psion\backups
cd \epoc32\Wins\C
C:\epoc32\Wins\C>
If you start the string with "\" you will go to an absolute path; without the "\" you will go to a relative path.
If you printer is connected to LPT1, you should be able to copy the file to the printer using
COPY <myfile> LPT1
Hope this helps.
Julie Wills
Twyford, READING, UK
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 07:16:37 +0100
From: PaulDDB
Subject: answer to Nic Dersley; to Itamar & Michael
Nic - I use DATA files similar to your ornithology file - different fields for all sorts of info.
The 250 character problem only exists if you designate a label "TEXT" -- the workaround is to add a new label and designate it "MEMO" (then delete the TEXT label) - Memo labels have unlimited length (but may not always convert well to Excel).
I convert my DATA files to the PC either live or from backup or archive -- once in the PC you can do anything with them that Windows allows, including copying and pasting into MS-WORD -- then you can convert them back to the Psion.
Another way might be to put ornithology observations in a JOTTER file - each entry can be dated, and then copied and pasted anywhere - Jotter has the advantage that when it's printed, all entries print consecutively - DATA entries print one page each.
To Itamar and Michael Degn - I've been reading this Digest since James Laurence started it in 1997. Some postings don't interest me, many do.
There used to be a lot of postings about how to use the S5, now it's more about connectivity. But Itamar, Michael and others - THANK YOU for keeping this forum going and thanks to all for real questions and friendly answers.
We're a very diverse group united by our use of (affection for?) Psions - no point in hostility.
regards,
Paul Bishop
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 07:32:06 +0100
From: "Mike Fellhauer"
Subject: Charge your Revo your way, I charge it mine...
>From: Owen H. Morgan
>BTW, I have no problems with my Mako's battery in daily use. I simply >switch the Mako off and connect it to the charger every evening before I go >to bed, and the machine works fine every day. As I've said before, the most >common mistake European Mako owners seem to make is to get a too small >power supply. It has to be able to supply AT LEAST 500mA at 6V, or you'll >kill your battery. Also, use and charge the machine every day, and if you >leave it at home when you go on holiday, put the charger on a timer so the >machine gets 30 minutes per day.
>
I admit that I don't use my Revo & Mako all that often these days as I work out of my home office...I just keep them charged up to keep their memories intact, once every 2 weeks. My Revo is getting close to three years now (and hopefully will keep working for a long time, knock on wood).
In my experience, I've found that people who charge their Revos daily (expecially with high % capacity left) usually end up with battery meter calibration problems (their Revos run out of power at 85%).
Also, I think it's a very bad idea about charging the Revo while you are away for 30 minutes a day...you'll be overcharging it in no time!!! Two weeks away from your machine (if it has a full charge, and no programs running in the background) should be no problem (isn't for me). If you're going away longer, back everything up and just let your Revo discharge over the time away. A full fresh charge wouldn't hurt it, and the little time it takes to restore the contents is a lot cheaper than coming home to a burned out Revo (and maybe your house too)!
(Personally though, I take my machines with me...they don't get a holiday.)
Mike Fellhauer
Secretary of the Psion Enthusiasts Association of Toronto
http://www.phaedrav.com/peat/
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 07:59:45 +0100
From: Jan R Gustafsson
Subject: Re: DreamConnect
David Lir wrote at 23 Aug 2002 16:35:36 +0100 in EPOC DIGEST V1 # 057
> I just wanted to point out the existence of a
> newer EPOC app that appeared quite recently and
> hence may have been overlooked by many of my
> fellow Psioneers. DreamConnect
> (www.dreamspring.com) is a replacement for
> Contacts ....
David,
I have not tried DreamConnect but I've been using iContacts for some time and this sw obviously does the same tricks as DreamConnect. IMHO iContacts is very well written and it allows you to customise the screens (also the way lables/variables appear) and the way the sw works in a number of ways. It can also interact directly with the Email app. Have a look at it!
Regards,
Jan G
Stockholm, Sweden
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 08:00:03 +0100
From: Jan R Gustafsson
Subject: Re: Dream world Psion
I could do without a built-in modem (IR & T39 works fine) or the Li/Ion cells (I get nearly 15 hours out of my rechargables) but I would take to the store immediately for a 5mx successor.
Cheers,
Jan G
-- This e-mail was sent from a Psion palmtop computer via IR and a GPRS-connected Ericsson T39 mobile phone --
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 10:23:00 +0100
From: <timschweikert
Subject: Spares anyone?
All,
Short story: Is anyone interested in a Revo/Mako for spare or primary
use? This isn't a fire sale. Both are good units with the ability
to run the battery down to a blinking box and still work. Email me
with an offer for one or both (with boxes, spare stylii, etc.). The
going price on eBay seems to be $75-$100, however I would rather sell
to the Epoc Digest. I trust our members more anyway!
Longer story: My wife gave up on figuring out the recharge of her
little-used Mako and went back to a Palm. That makes 2 of 4 people
in my family that gave up on figuring out recharging batteries in
Mako/Revos and went back to AAA battery versions of Palm. That
forces me to reconsider how many units I need for "spares". Since I
normally use the Psion 5MX, and have a spare of the 5MX, I've decided
that my 2 remaining Diamond Mako units that are unnecessary, even as
spares. The family member remaining in the Psion camp lost a
RevoPlus to a battery cable failure recently - not good for the
politics since it went out slowly and really irritated her. Soooo,
I'm back to replaceable batteries. The remaining Makos show no signs
of any failure and demonstrate their ability to run down the battery
to a blinking battery box and beyond and not lose any data. I took
one of them out of service as a backup for the other, but I already
have a Psion 5MX that could replace it.
Just to keep on a digest topic, I have to admit that Psion's
unswerving course of leaving the consumer PDA/HHC field is affecting
my thoughts about my own course of action. As a side job at work I
support all PDA/PPC/HPC/HHC types. For me personally, there are a
couple applications that don't easily exist on other platforms: EPOC
Word if well beyond anything in the PPC/HPC world, and Palmltop Money
is very good. I've already queried Palmtop BV about porting Money to
other platforms - they do answer, the answer is always NO. THey are
obviously looking elsewhere. I still like keyboards - HWR works
only under ideal circumstances. Even a thumbboard is better than
HWR. In any case, I really should reduce my store of Psions since I
may well be the only person in the family left using one.
Email me off digest with any offers.
Tim
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 10:25:46 +0100
From: Kevin Collins
Subject: GPRS
To Itamar (> ) and Mike:
> Re. GPRS - Phone Vodaphone and make sure the tariff you > are on allows you full internet access. You probably
> only have got WAP access and not full internet. I had
> the same problem and technical support sorted that out > by moving me up one tariff.
Itamar, thanks for that. I decided, however, to opt for O2 GPRS, which seems to be substantially less costly here and, with help from Christopher, eventually got it up and running.
BTW, how many bytes have you used by now? I "lost the run of myself" when I connected, browsing via Opera, and have 300 Kb chalked up. With O2 here, one can get 5Mb per month for EUR 12.50 ( GBP 7.50). How does that compare, I wonder?
Mike, I found your site extremely helpful, thanks. FYI, I believe that for O2 (Ireland), in the 8310 settings:
Part A, 17: user name gprs, ditto Part B, 31 and 32; and in Part B, 36, do not tick Get DNS from server, but enter numbers 62.40.32.33 and 62.40.32.34.
--
Regards,
Kevin [Cork, Ireland]
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 10:37:03 +0100
From: Mike McConnell
Subject: Post dated email
To: Kevin Thorne
<< I've noticed a few times that when I send email from my S7 the recipient has said it had been time-stamped about an hour later than when it had been sent >>
Strange. I've just tried sending a test message from my 5mx using Freeserve and it is correctly time stamped when retrieved by both Email in the 5mx
and Eudora in the PC. There was a discusion a while ago (though I'm not sure if it was here) where someone was consistently getting emails with the wrong time stamp and it turned out that his PC was not set to the time zone he was in! Another possibility is that the recipient is using an ISP with a mail server in a different time zone.
Send yourself a message from the S7, retrieve it with a PC and see what the time stamp is - that should confirm whether the problem is at your end.
--
Regards,
Mike [Dundee, Scotland] __________________________________________
Mobile Phone & SMS: +44 (0)7947 655778
Mobile Fax: +44 (0)7941 679797
Web: http://www.mikemcc.net
__________________________________________
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 11:54:37 +0100
From: "Nicole Carbonara"
Subject: Post dated email
To: Kevin Thorne To: Mike McConn
Subject: Post dated email
Kevin & Mike
Kevin wrote: << I've noticed a few times that when I send email from my S7 the recipient has said it had been time-stamped about an hour later than when it had been sent >>
Mike wrote: >> I've just tried sending a test message from my 5mx using Freeserve and it is correctly time stamped....... someone once mentioned there is some bug in the EPOC ER5 Email program that it indeed does this when using some ISP's (mine is Freeserve). Can anyone shed light on this? <<
My experience: When I send the Digest to you all from my Revo, it is also stamped 1 hour later and my Revo is on correct time. I send it via Compu$erve.
Nicole
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 11:59:31 +0100
From: "Nicole Carbonara"
Subject: Post dated email
To Kevin & Mike
Post dated email
I just checked on the server the time stamp for the previous "Post dated email" message I just sent. I sent it from my laptop using OneTel and it is correctly stamped.
Nicole
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 12:14:33 +0100
From: Jason Garbutt
Subject: Email message headers (ER3, Message Suite 1.5)
Hi digestives,
Is there any way to view email message headers on an S5C ?
TIA.
Regards,
Jason
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 12:56:26 +0100
From: Peter Keene
Subject: NETPAD ANSWERS 2
Hi Guys,
For Itamar re netpad:
Replacement for S5mx?
The short and easy answer to that would be no. The netpad is heavier, bulkier, much more expensive and doesn't have a keyboard. However, the screen is excellent and PsiBoard can give you much of the functionalty of a proper keyboard. To speculate for a minute. I think that we all know that the likelihood of Psion ever making consumer machines again is virtually zero. That said, perhaps the answer to Kevin's dream machine is a casing with a lower IP rating (a major cost-driver) than the netpad, the netpad's screen and the S7/netBook keyboard. To keep costs down I suppose you could use the S7 processor and motherboard. You would still end up with a machine that is slightly bigger than the S5, but which would, I think, be a lot more desireable.
More faith in Psion?
If, however slight the chance, we are ever to see Psion consumer machines again, then the Psion group has to be successful. Psion Teklogix is doing well, mainly due to Teklogix's success with its industrial machines in North America. If they can successfully launch the netpad, a really powerful and well made machine, into that market, then maybe Psion will regain its confidence. I find it encouraging that they are pushing the netpad in North America in a way that that they never did with the netBook. (Interestingly, according to the grapevine, there are some really big deals in the offing for the netBook, three years after its launch.)
I don't want to add to the controversy that Kits started, but I think that it would actually make sense for Psion Teklogix to offer a version of the netpad running WINCE. It seems that almost every industrial handheld computer in the US runs a version of WINCE or MS-DOS. Why not use that to introduce Psion's excellent design ability to the US market, riding on the back of Teklogix's current success? Maybe, over time, "WINCE netpad" users would become interested in the power, elegance and functionality of Symbian V5.
This all not far removed from Kevin's dreamland, but Psion Teklogix IS pushing the netpad in North America, that's what gives me more faith.
Regards,
Peter
On board the Trans-Karoo heading back to the Mother city.
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 16:08:10 +0100
From: Keith Giles
Subject: Re: Journal App for EPOC?/GPS
To Nic Dersley:
Would something like StationeryPad work for you? Maybe you could use it to make a template in Word.
http://www.mcaleely.com/freeware/StationeryPad/
Itamar answered Alex:
>Re. GPS - I think the eTrex from Garmin is one of the cheaper ones.
I don't know about other parts of the world, but here in the States, there are 6 different models of the eTrex. They vary in price (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail) from $145 to $375, depending upon which features they have. I suggest going to Garmin's comparison page and put a check mark by every eTrex model. Depending upon your wants, the plain vanilla model may well suffice for you.
http://www.garmin.com/outdoor/compare.jsp
I see my eMap model isn't even listed as 'discontinued'. What's a mother to do? :-(
Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
http://home.attbi.com/~ohsix827/
Thought For The Day: A nickel goes a long way now. You can carry it around for days without finding a thing it will buy.
All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 18:18:10 +0100
From: "Neil Thompson"
Subject: RE: EPOC PDF / Zipped Archives
Andy,
I will provide the webspace if you would like. I can also set up a questionnaire, as has been previously suggested, if that is of interest too.
Let me know.
Neil
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 18:38:16 +0100
From: Peter Keene
Subject: NETBOOK ROMS
Hi Guys,
Re netBook ROMs:
Any S7 owners thinking of upgrading their machines may be interested to know that Psionet are offering netBook ROMs at USD150 including courier to any part of the world. Contfor details. Usual disclaimers.
Regards,
Peter
Pretoria
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 21:19:02 +0100
From: PRAR
Subject: Re: Survey
At 08:33 24/08/2002, you wrote:
> Would you pay the extra or go for the old model?
If the new model still took AAs and ran for a reasonable time on a set I'd go for the new one. I wouldn't buy a portable computer which required a mains socket to work.
PRAR
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(Insert witty comment here.)
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 22:21:37 +0100
From: Kevin Thorne
Subject: The end is not nigh
I received the following from Arent Kits van Heijningen:
<To: All
Well, it had to happen , Itamar's followup to the UPS5Digest has apparently bitten the dust , however before taking any action , can anyone of you receiving this email find out what actually happened and mail the result to some key subscribers to the old digests ( UPS5 and EPOC ) as well as me
I was just about ready to ask Itamer if this was true when I noted Arent has just been banned from the Digest. I'm not sure exactly what he was hoping to achieve but the Digest seems to me to be running better than ever.
Regards
Kevin Thorne
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 22:34:28 +0100
From: Jim Watson-Gove
Subject: Re: EPOC PDF
Andy
<<I don't have a website, nor possibly the time to administer one, so my questions are, would people prefer the PDF file sent to them direct, or choose to download it? The other question is about the content. Pictures or no pictures?>>
After setting up my own website and maintaining it for over a year, I will say the effort is significant - especially if you include images. I would recommend and personally prefer to have the file e-mailed periodically.
The disadvantage is that you won't have the visibility of a web site and search engine access. The advantage is that those on your list will probably actually read it.
Images are nice but increase the effort significantly. I am considering closing down my art gallery pages because of the effort required to obtain acceptable images ( a bigger problem with art than with illustrations). I spent three weeks with the currently featured artist "getting it right,"
jim - oakland
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Date: 27 Aug 2002 22:35:06 +0100
From: Jim Watson-Gove
Subject: Re: Dream Connect
David Lir:
<<I just wanted to point out the existence of a newer EPOC app that appeared quite recently and hence may have been overlooked by many of my fellow Psioneers. DreamConnect (www.dreamspring.com) is a replacement for Contacts>>
You got my attention. #1, will it work on a classic 5, and #2, is it e-mail connected to provide e-mail addresses? Oh yes, #3, does it use the same database file or do you have to re-enter of transfer data entrees?
Might be the ticket when I use the Classic 5 as backup for 5mx. At present I have to correct a text file and manually scan for addresses when on the
c5.
jim - oakland, soon to be port townsend
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:01:27 +0100
From: Itamar
Subject: Old digests, Arent, Journal, Compaq 2010c,
Answer to: Andy Hayes
Re. Old digests - Someone else recently asked me for the old files and I promissed to send him my zipped files next week. Let me know if you want to receive copies too.
Message to all:
Re. Arent - The matter has been settled and solved amicable and Arent has been allowed back into the digest as subscriber (I think he subscribed again). We bare no grudge, and hopefully the matter is solved and finished.
Answer to: Nic Dersley
Re. Journal - Use a simple macro to stamp a WORD file with a date and time when opening it and enter whatever you want freely. You can search on any word in the whole file, and it is still organised by day. I use the same one to make daily notes which usually I made on a notebook and kept for reference (what I told a client, prices I quoted, etc.). The macro is called Scribbles, I forgot where I downloaded it from and who wrote it,b ut if you want I can send you a copy. Re. Compaq 2010c - Well, that sounds mighty close to a S7 or netBook ... only I think the S7/netBook is better.
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:02:47 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Wow! (4 Peter Keene) OT
"I can only offer you my opinion as a former submarine commander who has sailed some of the roughest seas in the world"
One of my fantasies ever since I played "Silent Hunter" on the PC :)
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David Lir
\\:>{o> (Me, sideways!)
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:02:50 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: a dreamer's updated 5mx & NetPad (4 Owen)
"If my MC218 died tomorrow, I would have to get a replacement right away, so I'd look for a new or second hand MC218 or 5mx"
What?! You've not *already* purchased a backup 5mx!? How dare you speak such heresy in these hallowed virtual halls? ;>)
"I'd prefer two CF slots"
I'd also love to have a second CF slot available. Chiefly for backing up my CF without having to fire up my laptop.
"I don't really think the MC218 / 5mx screen is as bad as some people say"
I agree...and...I don't agree. It really depends on the lighting. In a sunlit environment, like my local library atrium where I'm typing these very words, the screen looks *good*. At home on the couch the screen looks much worse. Still it is usable, and I'm mostly satisfied with it. Give it the clarity or contrast of a Revo and I'd be 100% satisfied. Keep in mind though that over 40's will have more trouble with it than younger folks will - all other things being equal.
"I'd also prefer standard penlight cells so that one could pick up a pack of Duracells in an emergency, just like my MC218."
I agree. I use my 5mx so often, and so much, that I've come to greatly appreciate the fact that I can top it back up to 100% with just a 20 second swap of NiMH cells. Besides, I like the fact that I'm never far from a fuel station: any shop with AA's. I also keep a couple of spare cells in the glove compartment of our car.
"In my not so humble opinion, the main thing that's wrong with the Revo\Mako is that it's missing a little round cover with a coin slot to open on one end of the machine so that the NiMh's can be user replaced when they are dead."
That and the lack of a card slot. No memory expansion, no onboard backup--yuck.
"I have no problems with my Mako's battery in daily use."
You're fortunate. My went back a couple weeks after I bought it. It never charged properly. Nice unit though. Parting with it was definitely sweet sorrow!
"I simply switch the Mako off and connect it to the charger every evening before I go to bed"
My problem is that I need a PDA ready to go 24 hours a day. I keep weird hours, mostly due to my illness.
"when you go on holiday, put the charger on a timer so the machine gets 30 minutes per day."
This is a brilliant idea IMHO. It should quite effectively solve the "I was gone for so long that my Revo's battery drained down and now all of my data, which I was of course too lazy or forgetful or busy to backup, is now gone" problem!
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:02:59 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: PDF Zine (4 Andy)
"my questions are, would people prefer the PDF file sent to them direct, or choose to download it? The other question is about the content. Pictures or no pictures?"
Andy,
I think having *both* delivery options available is ideal, but if only one is possible, I'd prefer having the zine emailed to me. On pictures: they wouldn't be absolutely necessary for *every* article, but some reviews, walkthroughs, or tutorial type articles may really work better *with* pictures.
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David Lir
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:03:02 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: "Power Hunger" of S5
Someone said: (Sorry, I lost track of who had written the original message!)
"I also found that my S5 was too power hungry."
The solution for that problem is simple: 1 charger and 2 pairs of NiMH cells. It only takes 20 seconds (or less) to take a S5 back up to full power this way. Just keep one pair in the charger, and swap them with the depleted cells in the S5. I swap mine out daily, and consequently have full access to my 5mx 24 hours a day, wherever I am. Full unimpeded access to his 5mx makes Dave a happy camper :}
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David Lir
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:03:05 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Keith's site! (4 Keith)
Hey Keith,
I checked out your site the other day and, what can I say, I found it uplifting. I hope you don't mind that I've appropriated the picture of the teddy bear with his 5mx for my PC's wallpaper. BTW, keep cycling for all of us! I had to give it up in my early 20's -- and I'm only now finding out why. (connective tissue disorder, I'm afraid.) I sure miss cycling -- especially in a smaller city and at night.
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David Lir
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:03:08 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: 2010c (4 Nic)
The 2010 was quite infamous in its day for having a uselessly short battery life. Good thing you've got a 5mx too!
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David Lir
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:03:11 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: Daily Journal (4 Nic)
"I use data at the moment ... the 250 character limitation is a real pain,"
Data should work fine. There is no such character limit! Try choosing "Unlimited" in the "Edit Label Entry" dialog! Also, I can email you a blank diary Data file I picked up somewhere - just let me know.
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David Lir
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:03:15 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: Printing from the EMU (4 Keith?)
Here's the info from 3Lib:
"(from Charles Newgas) Printing from the emulator. Although it is not possible to print direct from the emulator, you can print to file and copy the file to your printer with only one extra mouse click. The easiest way to do this is to create a DOS batchfile called "EpocPrint.Bat" on your Windows95 desktop. Inside it put just the single line CopyC:\epoc32\wins\c\printfile lpt1: (Change the drive and printer port letters if necessary). It is now easy to print from the emulator. Simply print to file using the driver that is most appropriate for your printer (the emulator will default to using file "printfile" in the root of the virtual internal disk), and double-click on the batchfile on your desktop."
Hope this helps. I've successfully done this in the past. Can't help beyond that though - I uninstalled the EMU long ago.
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David Lir
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:03:18 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Beaming Text Files for FREE
I can't recall if this has been brought up before or not; my apologies if I'm repeating old news. There is another app that may be used besides plBeam to beam files to another computer via IR. I'm not sure what plBeam costs, but CBeam, which is available to download at CPen's site, seem to do the same thing -- at no cost. I've successfully sent files to and from my laptop using this free app a few times now. Seems to work well and you can't beat the price!
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:03:22 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: Psion RAM upgrades
Hi Phil,
Thanks for the info. I guess I'll have to put the upgrade on my list of future purchases :)
Regards...
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David Lir
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:03:46 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: NETPAD - FINAL PART
Peter, thanks for going through the trouble of writing such a lengthy multi-part review. I enjoyed the read immensely and I must say that the NP looks a treat! As you mentioned, it's really too bad, and quite surprising, that Psion has not produced an external keyboard for the NP. Perhaps another small keyboard could be made to work with the unit? Of course you'd need some sort of port to connect with.
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:03:49 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: Color Magic, Soft Resets:
I agree wholeheartedly with Itamar. A warning should be given before *any* kind of reset is done to a user's machine. Speaking of soft resets: a new and improved reset app ResetPlus (freeware) has been released. A simple utility, but the best of the bunch, IMHO. And did anyone else notice that AlarmPlus (freeware, same author) has been upgraded recently? It now includes all the utility of SysBack and it can start any app automatically after a reset. I use it to start StickeyKeys up. BTW, what a G-dsend StickeyKeys (freeware) has turned out to be!
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:03:52 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: DreamConnect
Thanks for suggesting iContacts, Jan. I actually did demo iC for quite some time. I was not very happy with, what I felt was, it's cumbersome way of dealing with categories (folders, if I recall). I was planning, reluctantly, to reg it when DC came out. DC is IMHO a much nicer app than iC, but to each his own :) Also DC seems to be well supported. DreamSpring has already brought out a substantial upgrade to the program since I reg'd my copy, and is about to release another upgrade. Anyway, enjoy iC!
P.S. DC also uses the standard Contacts database and, like iC, can interact with Email. That is: you can still call up any given contact from within Email.
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David Lir
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Jan wrote:
David,
I have not tried DreamConnect but I've been using iContacts for some time and this sw obviously does the same tricks as DreamConnect. IMHO iContacts is very well written and it allows you to customise the screens (also the way lables/variables appear) and the way the sw works in a number of ways. It can also interact directly with the Email app. Have a look at it! Regards,
Jan G
Stockholm, Sweden
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:03:57 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: Colour Screen, Size of 7, Revo 3, RMRZip and WinZip
To Itamar (Colour Screen, etc):
"Re. Colour screen - I thouhgt just like you, but after I started to use the S7 I changed my mind. The colour screen is that much easier to read and use that my 5MX now seems very dull and difficult to read / use."
I'm afraid you may have misunderstood me. I'm well aware of the many benefits that a full-time backlit colour screen affords, especially over a greyscale screen the likes of the one in the 5mx and *I would be willing to pay* for those benefits (chiefly the much higher contrast), but having just come from a PDA with a full-time backlit TFT display I find that *I can do without those benefits* -- especially given the other benefits that the 5mx affords. As far as the 7 goes it's much too underfeatured to ever replace my laptop, and far too large to ever work as a handheld for me. I really don't want to be forced to carry a satchel everywhere I go! Accordingly, If I were going to move on from the 5mx (given the fact that Psion is no longer developing true handhelds) it would be straight to a Jornada 72x, rather than to a 7 or nB. So a small "6mx" with a colour screen would be great, but the 5mx is fine, even with it's display, and it indeed suits my needs on the whole better than anything else out there. In fact, that's why I bought it (in fact two) even after Psion had made their, by now, infamous announcement and why I didn't buy a Jornada. As I was at least trying to make clear *I would pay the difference for the improved colour model as presented by Kevin but I don't presently miss having such an option*. I just wish that the 5mx screen could be improved via an upgrade to it's reflective backing or would have been improved already by Psion at least to the level of clarity found in a Palm V or a Revo. Also, I would possibly purchase a "Revo 3" with a different battery technology then the Revo line presently has (whether LiON, Alkalines, or user replaceable NiMH cells) and an SD slot over *any* larger unit (even a 6mx!).
For me *a balance of useful features in a truly portable package takes priority over all other considerations* when deciding what handheld to buy and use. So far the 5mx is the best balanced handheld for *my* needs (even with it's less-than-ideal screen), but a Revo 3 sans battery problems and with the addition of an SD slot would perhaps have been an even better overall package for my needs. Not that we'll ever find out now; not that I'm complaining :)
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:04:03 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: RMRZip (4 Itamar)
To Itamar:
Thanks for the info, but the problem I was having was just the opposite: RMRZip *occasionally* fails to open a WinZip file. Zip Master has not had any such difficulty, at least not yet.
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:04:05 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Sorry for the flood!
Sorry for sending so many messages at once. I've not had the time to get my 2¢ in for the last while, so this is really a few days worth of messages -- coming all at once.
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 01:13:33 +0100
From: PaulDDB
Subject: Mako EpocConnect & Win XP
In case anyone's interested (and you may not be) I just bought a Sony Vaio to use on an upcoming trip to the UK, where I'm planning to move back after years of living in California.
The new PC has Windows XP and I didn't know if I could sync it with my 5mx without a 3-hour download. I installed Mako EpocConnect which came with the Mako/ Revo I've never used (because of battery fears). The bottom line is that the Mako software works perfectly with Win XP and it's not necessary to download 2.3.3 from Psion's site.
Now a question about the REVO/ MAKO - if I finally get the guts to charge it is it really wise to place it on charge every day?
Paul Bishop
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 02:08:20 +0100
From: Howard Weissman
Subject: EPOF PDF, Dream 5MX, Post dated Email
To: Andy Hayes
EPOC PDF
If it can be supported easily on a 5mx, I'd be happy
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REPLY TO: Philip Bister
Subject: Dream 5mx
Let's not forget solar power
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Reply to Kevin Thorne
Subject: Post dated email
I use an ISP thet logs GMT, despite my selecting a default od Eastern Time
Howie Weissman
NYC
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 03:13:46 +0100
From: David Lir
Subject: Re: Dream Connect
Hi Jim, (answers in-line)
"You got my attention. #1, will it work on a classic 5,"
I just checked -- according to the info on this page:
http://www.dreamspring.com/products/dreamconnect/requirements.html
the answer is ... (drumroll please!) NO!
Sorry, I would have mentioned earlier that DC is not compatible with a classic 5 -- if I had known.
"and #2, is it e-mail connected to provide e-mail addresses?"
YES, see below.
"Oh yes, #3, does it use the same database file or do you have to re-enter of transfer data entrees?"
Yes it *does* use the same database. The extra information, such as the categories, is kept in a separate file, but the contact info itself is shared with Contacts. Once running in the background it can be set to be called up by the Contacts icon. Also using Macro 5, DC can be set to come up using the Contacts icon even if it is not already running.
"Might be the ticket when I use the Classic 5 as backup for 5mx. At present I have to correct a text file and manually scan for addresses when on the c5."
The best way to find out if it's suitable for your *5mx* would be to try out the demo. As mentioned above -- it won't work on your 5 :(
BTW, the price has gone up since I bought it, and it is a bit expensive at $28 us. Still it's worth it, IMHO. BTW, DreamSpring has announced that another upgrade is on the way. I know I'm excited -- well, a bit excited anyway.
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 09:43:04 +0100
From: michael robins
Subject: Re: Digest plus Query on Nokia
Just to add my thanks to the EPOC Digest team for keeping it going. Even though my Psion 3a is now replaced by a PalmVx for regular use, the technical support provided by the contributors to this digest is excellent - so thanks to all. (I also agree with 'vaping' those who abuse it )
As an aside - does anyone have any recommendations for a mobile phone GPRS tarrif, has to be O2 in the UK, that I can subscribe too for using my new Nokia 6310i (which I agree is a nice phone to have but I kinda feel I am not using even half its functionality!)
Mike Robins
SRL Qantas A330
Thales Training & Simulation
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 14:12:34 +0100
From: Alexei
Subject: SMTP over GPRS
Hi Everyone!
Strange behavior of SMTP server over GPRS connection: messages are sent out very long time, compared to usual GSM dial-up or MochaPPP. Probably some settings need to be adjusted?
Thanks in advance,
B Rgds,
Alex.
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 14:12:40 +0100
From: Alexei
Subject: netBook + GPRS
Hi!
Has anyone experienced the following error while trying to connect via GPRS on netBook: When choose "Open mailbox" the E-mail shows:
Program: EtelServer
Reason code: USER
Reason code: 23
And then: "Server has closed"
And there is no chance to "Open mailbox".
All settings are working fine on Psion5mx with the same phone (Siemens S45).
What can be a trick over here?
Thank in advance,
B Rgds,
Alex
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 14:23:50 +0100
From: Simon Jeffree
Subject: Post dated email / 'Inclusive minutes' ISP number
Answer to: Kevin Thorne
<< I've noticed a few times that when I send email from my S7 the recipient has said it had been time-stamped about an hour later than when it had been sent ...<SNIP>... I thought (although I may be wrong) someone once mentioned there is some bug in the EPOC ER5 Email program that it indeed does this when using some ISP's >>
Yes, you're absolutely right, this is a bug in ER5. I don't think it's dependant on the ISP. I've often noticed it but never thought any more about it, but your query prompted me to do a bit of testing. My conclusion is that the Psion doesn't handle GMT offsets correctly. What I think happens is this:
Switching on summer times on the psion, introduces a +1 hour offset from the base (GMT) time. When the psion email app composes it's headers, the 'Date:' line should show the time local to that machine, followed by the offset from GMT that has been applied to produce that time. So, in this case, it should show the time (with the +1 hour offset added) followed by +0100. But it doesn't. It shows the offset as +0000.
The receiving computer takes the quoted time & takes off the offset to get back to GMT. Then it applies whatever offset is set locally on that machine & quotes the resultant time.
However, if the receiving computer is a Psion running ER5, it takes the quoted time, takes off the offset & just quotes that without applying it own local offset.
I tried it this morning on my 5mx. I live in the UK, so I currently have summer times on. At 6:30-ish, I sent a mail from my 5mx to my work address, with a 'cc' to my personal address. When I got to work, my work's PC (running M$ Lookout) showed the time of the email as 7:30-ish. I then picked it up on my 5mx (which showed the time as 6:30-ish, because it ignores the offset). Examining the POP3 log file 'C:\Logs\Email\ImLog110.txt', the 'Date:' line of the header shows up as follows:
28/08/02 06:34:19 << Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 06:33:39 +0000
(Note the +0000 on the end)
The same was shown under 'View/Options.../Internet headers' on the PC. I reckon the PC takes the '6:33:39' from the 5mx, takes off the +0000 & thinks the GMT time is 6:33:39. It then adds it's own +1 hour offset (because of daylight saving) & displays the time of the email as 7:34.
Then, going the other way around, at 8:30-ish I sent an email from my work's PC, to my personal address. When I picked this up on my 5mx, the time was shown as 7:30-ish & the corresponding line in the log file was:
28/08/02 08:33:44 << Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:26:26 +0100
(Note the '+0100' on the end)
The Psion takes the '08:26:26' from the PC, takes off the +0100 offset & quotes the time of the email as '7:26', without adding the +1 hour offset currently in force on the Psion.
Can anyone concur with this or give any comments or further observations?
Now I have a question (or two) of my own:
I'm trying to cut my telecommunications costs.
I use my 5mx with my mobile phone (still using the trusty SH888!) on a contract with T-Mobile for all my personal email. I use various ISPs (Freeserve, BT-click, OneTel, BizOnline, etc.). The only trouble is, they all have access numbers beginning with 08, which T-Mobile doesn't include in their free minutes allowance, so I have to pay for each data call, even though I have many free minutes left over at the end of each month. Does anyone know of a 'free' ISPs with whose access number does not begin with '08'? Or is there any other solution?
Also, does anyone know of a free service which will send an SMS to notify you of an incoming email?
Kind regards,
Simon Jeffree
Maidstone, Kent, UK
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 16:51:38 +0100
From: Kevin Collins
Subject: DigestSubject macro; Dream 5mx
Hi folks,
Re: DigestSubject Macro:
Many thanks to Guillaume for this macro, and to Jack for adapting it. It really makes browsing the Digest so easy.
In the old UPS5 Digest, I used a macro called "line", which did a similar function, but could only find a line which was *exactly* repeated: in this Epoc Digest it didn't work because of the dashes before the lines in the introductory subject list. The new macro has fixed that....well done!
Re: Dream 5mx
My dream is fairly unambitious: I'd happily settle simply for Bluetooth; wouldn't it be brilliant to be able to send mails or SMS messages, say in a train or bus, with the phone in one's pocket or wherever! No balancing on one's knee :-) And, as has been pointed out here already, the drivers (for Bluetooth - not the train or bus <g>) probably exist: pity someone can't get their hands on them!
Regards,
Kevin [Cork, Ireland]
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Date: 28 Aug 2002 18:12:49 +0100
From: "Ashley Burrows"
Subject: Nokia 9210: Plantpot PDF: reply: questions:
Hi all
Have just made the jump and bought a Nokia 9210, have been analyzing my usage of the 5mx over the past few weeks, and have come to realize that the 9210 would be far better suited to my requirements. All I need is Agenda, Email, City guides, tiny bit of web browsing, games, (is Shookban available) Database will need to purchase power Data or Small base. and letter writing not big esays just 200 hundred word reports.
Have any 9210 users on this list got any must have software or using tips they could pass on to me I would be most grateful: directif not relevent to others on the digest.
With regard to Andy Hayes idea of a Psion/Symbian PDF fanzine, surely that is exactly what this digest is, with the fantastic response from all members, very rarely does a question go unanswered, many times 2 or 3 different views on the subject. news of new programmes are announced.
Reply to Alex re GPS:
I have been using a Garmin Etrex for 18 months now it works flawlessly, get your self a cable form www.exportech.co.uk though, otherwise you end up with 15 foot of lead. Also get a program called Psitrex specially written for the device www.kudata.freeserve.co.uk
So if anyone is interested I have a 6 month old 5mx Boxed with sealed manual, with 64mB CF card Psiwin 2.33 Route planner, Street planner, (plus Millennium upgrades) PC card adaptor. Powerbase, My Pocket, Off line Web, Navigator. And a Sony Ericsson T68i Bluetooth mobile phone (pay as you go) on Orange. for sale....
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