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In today's Epoc Digest 20 messages:
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- Re: Last 2 Digests
- Re: O2 - Psion - Digest mail address
- Re: Dream 5mx colour screen?
- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 069
- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 069
- Netbook OS 158 Network: It Works! But.....
- Re: 1GB CF for 5mx
- Re: Database OPX
- TasMan vs. outliners etc
- Fanzine Feedback
- Re: Stray email files
- netBook OS 158
- Re: Stray email files
- GPRS file, Superglue, Stray email files, Future parts,
- Poetry & Psions, Web & Opera
- Re: HP Jornada 720/728 line
- Wallpaper
- Opera / DrB5Read / 1GB cf card
- Re: Receiving faxes with the TravelModem
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Date: 8 Sep 2002 23:03:02 +0100
From: Rolf Vonau
Subject: Re: Last 2 Digests
Reference is made to the mail in the EPOC DIGEST V1 # 070 :
"DL" wrote at 07.09 2002 (> ):
> I have accidently lost (bounced by a spam program
> by mistake) the last 2 digests. Numbers 69 and 70
> I think. Is there anyway I can get a copy of
> these please ? Thanks
> Dave Limbr
Hi Dave,
the Epocdigest server received the following mail from your administrator.
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I'll send you the digest #69 by private mail.
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The Epoc Digest Team
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Date: 8 Sep 2002 23:04:13 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: O2 - Psion - Digest mail address
Dear Itamar,
<< Is Vodaphone using O2 in Holland ? >>
The Dutch Libertel network is now called Vodafone and Telfort changed its name to O2. Telfort needed to have nationwide coverage earlier than it could realise and rented network capacity from Libertel, mainly in the north of the Netherlands. This gave Telfort/O2 more time to expand its network which was completed some time ago.
<< For sake of good order, I feel neither betrayed nor hurt >>
For the same sake - when you ask Peter whether the netPad will improve 'our faith in Psion' you're sending out the signal that you don't have much confidence in the company.
<< There was most definitely a message about the address change on the digest >>
I've trawled through my EPOC Digest database, which starts with issue no. 18, and haven't found an official notification to all subscribers of the address change. The footer of digest no. 35 is the first to mention the new address in the "How to subscribe..." footer. I doubt many will have noticed it - I certainly didn't. It's that Mike Fellhauer asked the question that I now see that digest staff have been using the new address already. It would have escaped my attention, otherwise.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - On holidays in the UK
Message written from the Chiltern Lodge Country Pub - Fence Houses - County Durham
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Date: 8 Sep 2002 23:04:17 +0100
From: Rolf Brunsting
Subject: Re: Dream 5mx colour screen?
Dear Philip,
<< But for me the determining factor would be the ability to continue to use the 5mx keyboard on a computer that fits into my pocket >>
A colour screen isn't the determining factor here. You can continue using your Series 5mx until it literally falls apart.
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Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - On holidays in the UK
Message written from the Chiltern Lodge Country Pub - Fence Houses - County Durham
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 00:58:23 +0100
From: "Ashley Burrows"
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 069
Well over 570 regulars now, shame Itmar & Co are not running a pub.
Was very interesting recently seeing peoples top 5 apps and how they use them.
Has led me to wonder how the 570 odd members reading this use their EPOC machines, are they series 5, 5mx MC218's Series 7, Netbook, Netpad, 9210/9290 PC Mac or other.
I would appreciate a private mailjust to see for my own interest only.
I personally have gone from 3a to 5 then MC218 (until screen cable) then 5Mx and now 9210
Have had the 9210 for about 2 weeks now so am getting used to it, still keep touching screen, Doh, At work the other day, have always been known as the man with gadgets, slight interest in the Psion/Ericsson, but when I played a movie file in front of them with my new toy I was surrounded by open mouthed amazement. So it does seem that a colour screen does make all the difference.
Re the PDF fanzine, I subscribe to Palmtop have done from Issue 1 (have them all if someone can give them a good home) but surely if they can no longer produce a bimonthly EPOC only issue with all their contacts and feelers, what makes others think they can. No insult intended.
I regularly read Tucows, PDAGeek, Buzz, but Epoc news other than ER6 is about as rare as rocking horse droppings.
So where is the content of this Fanzine going come from.
best wishes
Ashley
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 01:19:34 +0100
From: "Jaan Sass"
Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 069
Subject: Re: Mako battery
David wrote:
"Surely this is relative though! When I had my Mako I too was pleased by how much data it could hold, but once I moved to the 5mx with a 128mb CF I was amazed by how much my Mako could *not* hold! Having a large CF available as storage adds greatly to what I can do with my little Psion."
Absolutely this why I am in the process of purchasing a psion 7. I meant this in the context of what I have owned in the past. I had a sharp wizard oz 70 with only 3mb.
Thank you everyone who replied to the fixing of the rubber foot on my mako.
Jaan Sas
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David Lir - \\:>{o>
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 06:30:52 +0100
From: Manuel Campos Galvan
Subject: Netbook OS 158 Network: It Works! But.....
To: Dan Siegel
I am looking for an ethernet card for my netbook myself. Could you tell us which brand and model card you are using? I have been using my netbook with an old hayes 28.8 modem card and despite my searches, all 56K modem cards refuse to work on my netbook. Now that you have succesfully used your card with the new rom, I would appreciate if you could let me know about the settings, and most importantly, your card so I can try to get my netbook going.
Best regards,
Manuel Cam
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 06:50:51 +0100
From: Lothar.Kammann
(Lothar Kammann)
Subject: Re: 1GB CF for 5mx
To Simon,
I have bought a 1GB CF a little while ago. Before that my largest CF was
a 192MB CF. Both are from SanDisk. I have bought the 1GB in Germany at a
retail store close to Dusseldorf. Price was: ˆ 820,- EURO incl. VAT of
16% in Germany.
Especially opening of programs is slower. I am impressed that a PDA this
*old* (Psion S5mx Pro) can handle a CF card this large at all as they
were not available at the time. Anyhow, I am using the 1GB now on my
Canon G2.
I have bought another CF from SanDisk, a 512MB Ultra. Price: ˆ 359,-
incl. VAT of 16% in Germany. I would recommend the 512MB Ultra as a
compromise in storage space and speed.
Hope this helps. If anyone wants the address of the store, please let me
know.
Lothar Kammann
Germany
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 08:45:15 +0100
From: "Marcus von Cube"
Subject: Re: Database OPX
Hi Phillip
>Alas Marcus, standard OPL will not do the things that I need. Apart from anything else I need this program to write a fully relational database with an unrestricted memo field and hypertext links possible but not mandatory in other (mostly text) fields.<
I'm sorry that I underestimated your experience and the project you are following ;-)
Did you have a look a Kevin Millican's PsiDat? It seems to support some custom OPL
programming and supports all the database stuff. It makes use of an OPX so maybe asking
Kevin for assistance might be another approach.
Marcus
http://www.mvcsys.de
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 10:06:07 +0100
From: "Victor J. Liew"
Subject: TasMan vs. outliners etc
Neil,
I think David just made an off-the-cuff comment as opposed to any real criticsim of your excellent software. The outliner softwares under Palm were designed for different purpose to what TasMan was designed for. There is no comparison at all as they are both different type of animals. I think it started with someone else recommending TasMan without truly understanding what an outliner is used for.
BTW for those who do not know what an outliner does, check out FoxPop's review of Ximplify myList of 9210.
Rgds.
Vic
Neil Thompson wrote:
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> David, I have to take issue with your comment about TasMan
> being "greatly inferior to the high quality outliners
> available on the Palm". TasMan was never designed to be an
> outliner, simply an alternative view on the task information
> held within Agenda - I should know I wrote it that way!
>
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 11:45:53 +0100
From: "Simon Wolf"
Subject: Fanzine Feedback
As promised, here is my Monday summary of email I received about the Fanzine idea over the last few days ... I received a total of four(!!!) emails regarding the idea, two offering to proof read, one offering ideas for articles and one offering general support for the idea. As you can probably guess I am very surprised about this and the only conclusion that I can reach is that producing a fanzine would be a total waste of time and this is not something that people really want. I'd love someone to prove me wrong but I am now going to give up on the idea and simply remain a reader and contributor of this digest and a couple of forums and the Sunday evening EPOCChat.
Thank you to David, Darryl, Julie and Andrew and also to Neil.
Kind regards.
Simon Wolf
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 12:34:29 +0100
From: Jason Garbutt
Subject: Re: Stray email files
In EPOC DIGEST V1 # 069 on 7 Sep 2002 15:42:05 +0100, Mike McConnell wrote:
>Only if you REALLY know what you are doing. If you
>delete a wrong but empty
>folder, you may be unable to open the Email application at
>all and will
>have to delete the 'Messages' folder and let the application
>create a new
>file structure, with the loss of all existing messages.
Hi Mike,
Thanks for your reply, although I'm not sure I made myself clear.
I have emptied ALL my message folders, ie there are NO messages in any message folder (th4 no messages to lose). There are however lots of stray files on the disk in the supposedly empty folders. There is an 'Index' file of 1 or 2KB and files with names like '38a2b338' of 0KB.
From what you said I imagine I can delete the whole 'messages' folder and let the application recreate it ? If so, will this effect my mailbox & fax settings or are these stored elsewhere ?
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Jason
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 13:09:20 +0100
From: Darryl Kempster
Subject: netBook OS 158
"InfraRed sending of contacts is now fully supported."
On tour in Europe so not gonna be able to get hold of the new OS till back in England. Just interested to know if full IrOBEX functionality ala PIbeam has been included or is it still limited to Contacts and Agenda?
Cheers
Darryl
Driving from Zurich to Ansterdam with New Found Glory
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 13:31:18 +0100
From: Mike McConnell
Subject: Re: Stray email files
To: Jason Garbutt
>Thanks for your reply, although I'm not sure I made myself clear. >
>I have emptied ALL my message folders, ie there are NO messages in any >message folder (th4 no messages to lose). There are however lots of stray >files on the disk in the supposedly empty folders. There is an 'Index' >file of 1 or 2KB and files with names like '38a2b338' of 0KB.
>
> From what you said I imagine I can delete the whole 'messages' folder and > let the application recreate it ? If so, will this effect my mailbox &
> fax settings or are these stored elsewhere ?
It seems that with the Series 5's Message Suite, deleting the "Messages" folder just deletes the entire message store without the loss of email and fax settings. When the application is launched again, a new message store
is created and the existing mailbox is still shown. This is unlike the Email application in ER5 machines where deletion of the "Mail" folder will also destroy all mail and fax settings. Initially, you can just exit Email, rename your "Messages" folder to hide it and open the application again. It will create a new "Messages" folder on the same drive as before. Then, if all is well, you can delete the original file which you renamed.
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Mike [Dundee, Scotland] __________________________________________
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Mobile Fax: +44 (0)7941 679797
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 13:52:44 +0100
From: Itamar Engelsman
Subject: GPRS file, Superglue, Stray email files, Future parts,
Answer to: Kevin Thorne
Re. GPRS file - I sent it to you in ZIP format, which should work.
Answer to: Keith Giles
Re. Superglue - [off topic] I found superglue extremely effective. Recently I glued the mirror in my son's car back onto the front windscreen. I use it for plates, porcelain, glass and of course a variety of plastics. However, it does not glue all plastics. Have some acetone ready when working with it in case it drops onto your skin.
Answer to: Jason Garbutt
Re. Stray email files - I don't have a folder system\messages on my S7 at all, and wonder what program created this folder. I don't think it is the email program. However, first rename the folder to "Oldmessages" and if it does not create any problems delete it.
Answer to: David Lir
Re. Future parts - It is to be expected that POS and others will have parts available for some time longer than Psion themselves, but sooner or later their source(s) will dry up, at which time we will all be forced to move on.
Bye,
Itamar Engelsman
London, United Kingdom
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 15:51:43 +0100
From: Jim Watson-Gove
Subject: Poetry & Psions, Web & Opera
<<Good question Jim. I've often found myself wondering the exact same thing. I've got to stop obsessing on our hobby and get back to my poems!>>
My obsessing almost had me buying a Zaurus or a Treo (shudder). Back to my poetry and my painting. Belt suspender and duct tape should be enough.
Do you have a web site?
Do you have your poetry on your web site?
<<Without a card I wouldn't have room for both Opera and Web (both good - but for different things) and the full WordNet lexicon, Webster's Dictionary, etc., etc. and etc.>>
How do you have Web and Opera configured - one on the Internaland the other on the D (Opera on D)?
jim - oakland but soon to be port townsend, washington
www.MinotaurPress.com
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 17:04:35 +0100
From: "Steve Hodgson"
Subject: Re: HP Jornada 720/728 line
> Yes, the J720/728 is pricey, but the keyboard is a dream
> and it can still fit in my hip pocket.
Getting a bit far from the EPOC world now but...
How is the screen for usability? Without a Psion-style hinge does it
not rock backwards in use?
Regards,
Steve Hodgson
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 17:05:54 +0100
From: "Steve Hodgson"
Subject: Wallpaper
Does anyone know of any slightly decent sources of wallpaper for a
netBook? I've got really bored of the standard epoc 'palmprint' and my
own efforts with photoshop were dire! I just fancy an attractive
abstract graphic but so many of the downloadable wallpapers seem to
feature Star Trek or similar - talk about confirming stereotypes about
ourselves!
Beam me up...
Steve Hodgson
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 17:52:24 +0100
From: Astrid Stappenbeck
Subject: Opera / DrB5Read / 1GB cf card
OPERA AND MEMORY PROBLEM
Hanno de Kogel wrote
>Since I started using the Opera Web browser 5.14 memory problems are increasing. It seems >to be impossible to keep Opera running without it crashing at some stage -I have tried all >possible Cache settings. The real problem starts after closing down Opera and then to find that >other programmes simply will not start until I perform a soft reset. It seems Opera messes up >the Internal memory and afterwards does not release it properly? I use the Freemem Macro >often but in this instance to no avail.
I don't know of any settings that will make Opera considerably less memory hungry but I get most of the memory back after closing the app and either use a defragmentation program like MMU or defrag or simply go to memory on the system's screen menue. You can free more if you delete the contents of the cache or stored sitenames. (Have a look at the temp files too, you could use cleanit) But while operating it will still be a nuisance. If that is too much for you - downgrade to version 3.x - it is a little less complex, bookmarks are a mess but it needs less memory and doesn't crash.
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DrB5Read
David Lir wrote
>For those who aren't aware, there is a little macro applet which makes reading long emails or >Word documents less of a chore. It's called "DrB5Read" (Dr. B's 5-Read) and once called up with >a hotkey via Macro5 or ExtraBars it allows the screen to be advanced with one push of the >enter key or the arrow key (it can page up too). It does a few other handy things too, such as >calling up the time with a push of 'k', etc. It's also easy to get out of via the Esc key.
Didn't come across that one but I have Biblioreader installed, a French macro that seems to do pretty much the same. It can also autoscroll and insert signets. I think, I also got it from epocboulevard, i.e. pnicolas pages.
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1GB cf card
Wouldn't mind to have one but hate to buy it. The cost is still prohibitive. 128 MB gives probably the best value per money at the moment (price per MB) but I' running into problems with that size right now. So I'm searching for a reasonable priced (under 100€) 256 MB, perhaps I'll let myself be tempted by 512 MB but they all want well over 200€ for that one at least. And you can't get a 1GB on ebay or a bargain shop! If you really need that much memory I would strongly recommend two or more smaller cards instead. (Unless you've just won the lottery jackpot, of course)
Bye,
Astrid
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Date: 9 Sep 2002 18:44:58 +0100
From: "Thomas F. van der Zijden"
Subject: Re: Receiving faxes with the TravelModem
On 7 Sep 02, at 22:57, David Lir wrote:
> Yup, I *think* it's mentioned in the modem's manual. I haven't tried > receiving a fax yet though. Here's a question for you: if the incoming fax > is not received within a few minutes does the modem fall asleep? or does
> the 5mx communicate to the modem to keep it on while in 'wait for fax'
> mode? That info may be in the manual too, but I'm too tired to dig around > for it :)
Hi David,
I tried this out. I switched the modem on and set the Psion to wait
for the fax. I waited 10 minutes. To my surprise the modem did not
switch off and I think that its normal automatic switch-off time with
no activity is less than 10 minutes. The Psion was still waiting.
I then sent a fax. The phone rang, but the modem just refused to
pick up the phone. Nothing changed. So I did not receive the fax.
I received confirmation from 'Vassilios' that this is the normal
behaviour of the TM, but I am surprised. I would expect either the automatic switch-off or the equipment still active and ready to
receive the fax. It is neither of those options.
Yours truly,
Thomas van der Zijden
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