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Epoc Digest Thu, 16 Jan 2003 Volume 01 : Number 149

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In today's Epoc Digest 31 messages:

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- Deletion from the subscribers list (1)

- Deletion from the subscribers list (2)

- Re: Organiserizing

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 148

- NetBook II?

- Data on PAYG

- netBook -- Should I buy

- AC (mains) adapters

- Modem card

- Re: Psion Dacom Gold Card

- Re: GPRS 6510

- Re: Exporting Agenda find list, mail folders

- Re: netBook -- Should I buy

- Re: OPL Question

- Re: Jornada

- Re: Psions and GSM networks

- Odd Synchronization Problem

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 148

- Repair, spell check, software, NetBook II, On/Off problem,

- Re: On/Off problem

- Splashscreens, colour printers, PDF printer, Money vs RMR Bank

- On/Off problem # 148

- CF cards and a Mac: my two cents

- Re: Macro5 procedure problem

- CF reader & Windoze

- MMC to PC card adaptor

- Re: CF Cards

- FW: Pocket reader

- OPL problem (Morse-It macro)

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 14:56:55 +0100

From: michael robins

Subject: Re: Organiserizing

Without particulary wishing to defend Rolf B ;- ) Like many others who lurk on the list, having used both an Organiser II and Organiser XP, I can confirm that its an 's' and not 'z' in this particuler case. (and I sure hope I got my spelling right!)

> I was taught to use the 'first' spelling listed in the Oxford English Dictionary and, lo and behold, its first spelling of the subject word is Organizer!

Mike Robins

Thales Training & Simulation

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 15:07:33 +0100

From: "Ralf Eichler"

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 148

On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:13:52 +0100, Epoc Digest wrote:

>I have always found the automatic switch-on / switch-off when opening > / closing the lid of my 5mx to be a practical function.

>This morning when I opened up the machine, it did not behave as >expected, nor did it switch off when closed. Checked the settings >but they are ok.

>Is this automatic switch-on / switch-of hardware-operated

>by a micro-switch somewhere, and if so, can my problem be

>easily fixed? Can malfunctioning or missing sw be part of the problem?

I had the same problem. I managed to open the MX and saw that the

small microswitch just had broken off from where it was soldered. I took my soldering tool and with swaty hands managed to solder it

back on. Thank god it works now. There are instructions on how to disassemble a 5MX on the net. But the fact that it worked for me

does not guarantee that it works for you. You need to have quite

some soldering experience and a very small soldering tool.

Remember to make a full backup of you system before opening because

you need to remove the main and the backup battery to open the machine.

Good luck!

R/\LF

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 15:08:13 +0100

From: peter.rand

Subject: NetBook II?

From: "Gary Y Reyes" Subject: NetBook II

I hear they are coming out with Netbook II later this year - higher quality SVGA screen, new application suite (Word, Excel, etc.), USB port, internal modem, etc.

May be worth the wait for those contemplating some other device or platform.

Ok, this is very interesting. The only thing that would hold me back from replacing my Series 7 with a NetBook is the poor quality of the color screen. While the screen is fine for word-processing, color photos look washed out and lifeless on the Series 7. This is a shame since I'm using my digital camera more than ever. A NetBook with a better screen would really be a big improvement.

Care to share with us how you stumbled over this rumor? Based on past performance, it seems rather unlikely that there will be so many significant improvements at once.

Peter

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 15:43:41 +0100

From: "Thomas F. VAN DER ZIJDEN"

Subject: Data on PAYG

Owen commented on my statement:

> - In fact, data access *is* usually an error. The > networks meant it to be used for their own WAP

> number

As follows:

<<I don't want to offend anyone, but this is bullshit. I had been accessing the

Internet via a GSM cell phone for many years when Wap was invented.

<SNIP>

Both

the GSM providers in Norway have been providing Data access for a long time.

How can the Internet access have been meant for Wap use many years before Wap

was invented?

<SNIP>

On the subject of prepaid cards, I have Internet access here in Ireland with a

prepaid Irish Vodaphone card and when I was in Scotland I accessed the net with

a prepaid UK Vodaphone card. If the networks stop Internet access for prepaid

cards, there will be no way for travellers like me to get onto the net when abroad. (I don't intend to keep my Norwegian contract, as I won't go back to

stay in Norway for at least a couple of years.)>>

Owen,

It is correct that data could already be used on GSM networks before WAP was invented. However, when I had my first contract (with Dutchtone) I had to pay *extra* for data and fax access (fl. 40 for the connection). This was *not* only for the data/fax telephone numbers I received, but *also* for the mere fact that my card were to be data enabled. Furthermore, the data and fax calls did not come from my included minutes, but they were separately charged at a higher tariff. Special internet numbers did not exist in those days, so it was clearly *Dutchtone* that decided on the data prices.

When I bought the second contract from Dutchtone, WAP was introduced and the card was fully data/fax enabled and the minutes came from the free minutes. WAP was pushed on the market, hence the sudden standard data ability and we Psioneers got free internet access a long with it.

Debitel and O2 decided that this was not a good idea and they have again started charging separately for data not flowing to their own WAP number. KPN Telecom has blocked data access on its prepaid cards. Dutchtone seems

to have blocked fax access on its contracts (I don't have Dutchtone anymore, but other Dutch Psioneers suddenly have problems with faxing). With my own network Ben it is not quite clear. Suddenly my access to the internet is charged separately, but this may be due to the special internet access number I use.

And again I confirm my own statement: data access (or not) is and has been foremost a question of marketing and not of technical matters.

Your conclusion is correct: if your networks stop offering data access on their prepaid cards you will not have internet access. I predict that this will happen, either with a block on all but their own WAP access numbers or a complete switch-off of data and fax.

Yours truly,

Thomas van der Zijden

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 15:50:46 +0100

From: "Tony Cabot"

Subject: netBook -- Should I buy

Woody,

Also it probably would be (wood b:) a good idea to check ebay. I bought mine there about a year ago for $500; and it included a docking station. Tony Cabot

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Date: 13 Jan 2003 01:01:18 +0100

From: "Woody B"

Subject: netBook -- Should I buy

I live in the US.. and am a happy owner of a Psion 5 and 5MX, but my birthday is coming... (june) ;-) and was pondering the netbook. Looking at the USA Psion site it indicates the netBook goes for $1300. plus shipping and other goodies.

I've read that Clove has them for sale in the UK. I'd like some advice if it is practical to buy from Clove and have it sent here. What would I do about a power adapter? What goodies should I get with it... regardless of where I purchase? Does Clove even ship to the US? .. Has anyone done this?

Any info accepted. WoodyB

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 16:04:23 +0100

From: Edward Hasbrouck

Subject: AC (mains) adapters

> you would not need a "power adaptor", just a plug adaptor. I use my > netBook (UK version) without any problem when I am in the US.

Apparently there are several versions of AC (mains) adapters sold with Psions in different places and through different channels. My MalayBook, for example (see the discussion in the Netbook forum at PsionPlace.com) came with an AC adapter with a UK-type plug but with 200-240V input, *not* 100-240V. This could be described as a "UK version" mains adapter, and would work fine in the UK, but would *not* work in the USA (110-120V).

If you are looking for, or are selling/trading, a second-hand or aftermarket AC (mains) adapter, you should specify separately (1) the input voltage (110-120V, 220-240V, or "universal" 100-240V; Psion have sold all 3 types), and (2) the plug type (Psion have sold 3 types: UK- type, USA-type, and continental European round-pin type plug).

While we are on this topic, since I'm in the USA the AC adapter I got with my MalayBook (200-240V, UK plug) is useless to me. If anyone has a 110- 120V Netbook/Series 7 AC (mains) adapter with USA-type plug, or a universal 100-240V with USA or European plug type, and would be interested in a trade, please contact me privately.

----------------

Edward Hasbrouck

<http://hasbrouck.org>

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 21:02:34 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Modem card

Today I tried to use my modem card but it just would not work anymore. I even did a soft reset, no results. Finally I used COMMS to give it an AT and ATD command and suddenly it came to live again. Any ideas why this happened ?

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:00:12 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Psion Dacom Gold Card

Dear Itamar,

<< If that is the case, what could cause my card to misbehave? >>

I'm not the right person to ask as I appear not to have this problem. I'd need to see it 'in action' before I can make a first guess. What I'll do is to use my Series 7 for a few days and see whether the problem crops up at my end. Trouble is that I tend to think faster than my fingers so that it's not uncommon for me to miss a few characters here and there.

Note that it doesn't necessarily needs to be the Gold Card that's at fault. It's logical that you blame the Gold Card as it's the most recent item you added to your Series 7. However, there's also the possibility that it makes a problem that was already there much more noticeable.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:00:14 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: GPRS 6510

Dear Itamar,

<< ... specially when surfing the net the costs of GPRS can be considerable! >>

GPRS works out much better for "surfing the net" because you only pay for the data exchanged rather than the time you're connected. In other words, you pay for retrieving the web pages you're interested in but aren't charged for the time you need to read them.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:00:16 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Exporting Agenda find list, mail folders

Dear Kevin,

Regarding : Exporting Agenda find list

<<Yesterday I put a search on a particular repeating Agenda entry to see which dates in the future these entries fell upon and noticed the Nokia only lists the first instance of the repeat - not all the relevant entries within the search period as on the ER5 Psions. This is actually quite annoying as one can appreciate! >>

I rarely use the Find-function to search my Agenda for past or future appointments. It's not much of a problem for me when my ER5 Psions would behave in the same fashion as the Nokia 9210.

<< I can remember the Psion 3 being able to not only display in list form exactly what you searched for but could print out the result as well! As we move forever forward we seem to lose more and more functionality >>

I'm sure Nokia didn't create the 9210 to replace the SIBO or EPOC Psions but to come with a communicator to succeed the 9110. The question therefore is - did the 9210 lose functionality in comparison with the 9110? And why should a 9210 do everything a Psion did, anyway? Doesn't Nokia have the freedom to create the 9210 according the wishes of its target audience rather than Psion's?

<< ER5 can do a halfway house i.e. it can display all searched entries but as far as I know, cannot export this data - in fact I'm sure it can't! Is there any workaround to this? >>

What you need is a small utility that reads the Agenda file, filters the appointments (or other) you're interested in out of it, and stores them in Word or plain text format. It can be done but I don't know whether such a utility already exists. A Google web search might help.

Regarding : Mail folders

<< anyone know if the mail folders in ER6 suffer from the same problem as in ER3/5 i.e. the program gradually slows down as the folder gets more and more emails stored? I ask this because (a) the Nokia uses MMC for storage, not CF (which may involve read/write speed differences) and (b) I'm not sure if the filing structure is handled differently in ER6 >>

I think there's a file manager available for the 9210 which might help you to determine the 9210's file and directory structure. As for MMC versus CF, there's not much difference in read/write speeds.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:00:18 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: netBook -- Should I buy

Dear Woody,

<< I'd like some advice if it is practical to buy from Clove and have it sent here >>

Getting a netBook from Clove Technology will mean paying the UK price minus VAT (Value Added Tax - equivalent to Sales Tax) plus shipping charges plus import duties. I don't know whether the final price compares favourably with the $1,300.= Psion's US office charges for it. Warranty and repairs won't be a problem as the netBook is covered by an international warranty.

<< What would I do about a power adapter? >>

You can ask Clove to send you a US-specification netBook so that you not only get the right power supply but also a US keyboard and US software. You might have to pay extra for it, though.

<< What goodies should I get with it... regardless of where I purchase? >>

Well, how about an additional 32 MByte of memory, the docking station, a carrying case, (wireless) modem card or network card, a CF storage card like the 1 GByte IBM Microdrive, PCMCIA to CF card adapter, a CF card reader for the PC or Mac ... etc.

<< Does Clove even ship to the US? >>

I'm sure they do. Question is whether it's financially attractive to get a netBook from Clove.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:00:20 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: OPL Question

Dear Owen,

<< I was looking for a more elegant solution as I've got a big array to fill with constants >>

Why don't you create a comma delimited plain ASCII text file to fill a string array using a recursive file I/O procedure?

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:00:21 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Jornada

Dear Andy,

Jornada

<< I would advise all of you 5mx owners to dash out and buy a Jornada as soon as you can >>

Thanks, but no, thanks!! I've come to dislike the Microsoft Office software we use at the company. I therefore prefer to be as much Microsoft-free as I can in my private computing life.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:00:23 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Psions and GSM networks

Dear Edward,

<< Has anyone had experience with GSM in NYC, or the US for that matter? >>

I've use GSM in the US for data communication and it's no different from using GSM in other countries.

Note that it makes no difference to a Psion, or other computer, whether data is transferred via a land line or a mobile wireless network. Data transport is data transport, whether you use POTS, GSM, CDMA, GPRS, or EDGE. When the device the Psion talks to behaves like a modem the Psion doesn't even notice what's happening at the other end.

<< Also, I'd welcome any information about which of the new cell phones work well with GSM and Psions, particularly the Revo or Mako >>

I'm not going to recommend a particular brand or model. You're probably going to use the phone more in its traditional role than for data communication. Personal taste then plays a role as things like:

- Size and weight,

- Standby and talk time,

- Clarity of the display,

- Keypad quality,

- Ease of using the menus and user interface,

- Maximum number of phonebook entries,

- Etc.

... will determine whether you're really going to like the phone. Plus that there's a good chance you'll be limited to the phones T-Mobile has in its sales catalogue. It's no use for me to recommend a model you're not able to get.

Still, the phone you need:

a) Has to support the 1,900 MHz frequency band used by GSM in the US,

b) Needs to be equipped with an integrated data adapter that's also (mistakenly) referred to as a 'modem',

and,

c) Needs to come with an infrared data port, given that you're talking about a Mako or Revo.

This means you're likely to get a Nokia, SonyEricsson or a Siemens.

In case you'd like to use the phone outside the New York area it may be best to select one that also supports the 800 MHz AMPS analogue network so that you can make voice calls when travelling. A phone that supports the 900 and 1,800 MHz bands used outside the US will only be of interest when you (regularly) travel abroad.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:00:25 +0100

From: Rolf Brunsting

Subject: Re: Psions and GSM networks

Dear Andrew,

<< My understanding is that in order for a mobile 'phone to work in the US it needs to be "Tri-Band" >>

That's not the case. When the phone will be used exclusively in the US it's sufficient for it to support the 1,900 MHz frequency band only. A tri-band phone that supports the 900, 1,800 and 1,900 MHz bands is only of interest to the frequent international traveller. Unless you want to have a tri-band phone in order to be one up to the Jones's. It's much more interesting to get a dual-band, dual-mode phone in the US. That is, a phone which supports 1,900 MHz GSM as well as 800 MHz AMPS.

<< I'm assuming that any 'phone with an integral modem will have the ability to communicate with the Psion, either by IR, or datacable >>

Which isn't the case either. There are several WAP-capable phones in the lower-end of the market that do have a 'modem' in order to support WAP but no external modem interface. Note that the term 'modem' is a misnomer as there nothing to modulate or demodulate when using digital GSM.

Kind Regards,

Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:20:57 +0100

From: "Hoffman, Susan"

Subject: Odd Synchronization Problem

I synch my 5mx agenda with Outlook, and my Blackberry agenda with Outlook. I recently entered an appointment for 7:30pm on June 11, 2003 on the 5mx, and when I synched with Outlook last week, I noticed today that it did not transfer to Outlook (who knows how many other appointments didn't synch, either). I tried deleting it on the 5mx and re-inserting it, and then synching again. This time, the synch program deleted it from the 5mx (so it wasn't anywhere). I again entered it on the 5mx, and synched again, and it showed up in Outlook. I tried resetting the properties of the synchronization template each time (I have it set for a 10-month future period). Has this happened to anyone else? Any explanation?

Susan Katz Hoffman

Pepper Hamilton LLP--------------

3000 Two Logan Square

18th & Arch Streets

Philadelphia, PA 19103

Tel: 215-981-4990

Fax: 215-981-4750

e-mail: hoffmans

web address: www.pepperlaw.com

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:37:17 +0100

From: Anthony Napier

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 148

relpy to Itamar

re locations. Guide books such as the National Trust and others list the british ordanance survey may grid references for historic properties. These can't be entered as new overlay entries on the en route maps without being converted to long/lat coordinates which seemed a higly complex coversion until I found "locations" which calculates the conersion. I am addicted to adding visitable features to the en route maps, useful if you are travelling.

On another matter. I am keeping 2 revos going for day to day use, one as a spare. What is the best way of maintaining the spare ready for use. Should you keep it on charge permanently or try to remember to recharge it before it forgets everything. It's all replicated on an S7 but reloading from this is a bit cumbersome.

Someone made an observation about the need to lurk in shady places in order to be able to read the S7 screen during daytime. I found this frustrating until I realised there was a 0 to 9 screen brightness control via control panel. It seems to reset itself to 2 automatically which I suppose save power.

Why does someone else not licence the operating system to keep it going. It's nearly perfect for all I wish to do. Improvements, S5 with a revo quality screen, revo with a better battery?

Tony

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:39:45 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Repair, spell check, software, NetBook II, On/Off problem,

Answer to : Rolf Vonau

Re. Repair - In the UK there is not much difference in speed between Psion and POS. However, from Germany POS might be the better option. Look at the website of both Companies for their contact details and procedures (I am not at home and don't have these handy)

Answer to: Philip Carlisle

Re. spell check - On te Psion you can also check the spelling before sending the email, Ctrl-L in the email. No need for Outlook just for that <G>.

Answer to: Buzz Brooks

Re. software - It might be an idea to start with giving the digest a list of the software programs you have on your 5MX and would like to use. Some might be easy enough to give instructions in writing.

Answer to: Gary Y Reyes

Re. NetBook II - Interesting news. Can you back it up by giving us sources or a website ?

Answer to: Jan R Gustafsson

RE. On/Off problem - If you look underneath your keyboard you will find a small plastic "tongue" that fits into the little hole in the base of the 5 and presses on a small micro switch in the hole. It could be that the little tongue broke of or that the switch is faulty. Yes, I suppose it could be repaired, but can't give you details.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 22:44:14 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: Re: On/Off problem

Howdy!

Jan R Gustafsson wrote (> ):

> I have always found the automatic switch-on /

> switch-off when opening / closing the lid of my

> 5mx to be a practical function. This morning when

> I opened up the machine, it did not behave as

> expected, nor did it switch off when closed.

This is a known problem. I've had it happen on several machines. If you open up your screen and turn the machine upside down you'll see a small tab underneath the keyboard. This goes into a corresponding hole in the bottom part of the machine and hits a microswitch. The problem is simply bad soldering on the microswitch. If you have a soldering iron with a very thin tip, some thin solder and a very steady hand, you can open the machine and re-solder it. In the meantime, I suggest you disable the function, as a loose switch can very easily lead to the machine switching on and off at random and drain your battery. (Guess how I know...)

The failing power connector Rolf Vonau mentioned is also a known issue. The best solution is to get an RS232 cable that connects the power through the RS232. Mine came with a S5 docking station from POD a long time ago.

Owen

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To be happy for a month, get married;

To be happy for life, get a sailboat.

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Date: 15 Jan 2003 23:27:40 +0100

From: Kevin Thorne

Subject: Splashscreens, colour printers, PDF printer, Money vs RMR Bank

On my S7 I have Purple Software's Navigator (v1.02F) and Palmtop Software's Money (v1.61). Navigator is the colour version but the splashscreen is monochrome. Money, as far as I know, was never released in colour for the S7/netBook and I've checked on their web site to ensure I have the latest version, which I do. Was (a) a colour version of Money ever released and (b) is it possible to get a colour splashscreen for Navigator?

Looking through my S7's list of printer drivers I noticed I have both of Andrew Johnson's Canon drivers. The one I use is the monochrome one for my elderly BJ-10e and this driver improves the output over the standard issue Psion one. But I've never had the opportunity to try out the other one I have installed, the colour driver. I've heard it works in a limited fashion for colour output and I'm thinking maybe this year I'll upgrade to a BJ-85. So my question is, has anyone used this colour driver on their S7/netBook with a colour Canon printer and if so, what is the colour output like? Perhaps if we ever see the "new generation" netBook it will have wonderful colour drivers already built-in!

More looking in my list of printer drivers (you can tell there is nothing on TV tonight!) and I see I have v0.8 Beta of PDF Printer which has now expired. I presume there is now a full public release of this excellent driver?

I still have a registered copy of RMR Bank on my S7 so I thought I'd give it another spin on a machine with plenty of free RAM (unlike the 9210 which coughs and splutters with its stingy allocation of running memory). I really like the sophistication of the program (it's less than half the cost of a commercial program and offers at least as much functionality) but I still find it SLOW. In fact most operations or even just entering transactions take quite a few seconds to implement whereas Money does almost everything in a split second. It can't be a memory issue when I have over 24Mb of free RAM available so it must be the way it handles the operations. I can't fault RMR Bank on its functionality and I love the way the user can almost infinitely tailor the way it operates to his/her own liking but the slow speed does put me off.

Regards

Kevin Thorne

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Date: 16 Jan 2003 00:02:48 +0100

From: vlad arghir

Subject: On/Off problem # 148

> Jan R Gustafsson On/Off problem wrote:

> micro-switch somewhere,

The switch is on the backside of the keyboard in the middle when you open it. May be vbroken - if the keyboard settings < system screen are okay, then see if the little plastic tongue is missing.

best,

vlad

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Date: 16 Jan 2003 03:39:43 +0100

From: Brian Houghton

Subject: CF cards and a Mac: my two cents

Hello all,

Just wanted to let you know that successful interaction between a compact flash card and a Mac computer is possible. I currently use two different CF cards (one 16 MB and one 32 MB and both are SanDisk). I use them with my two Macs in conjuction with the SanDisk USB CF Reader.

I use an iBook running OS 9.0 and recently upgraded to 9.2. I also use it with a classic iMac running X.1.5.

My impressions are simple. First, my CF cards were formatted in the D drive by EPOC. I did not leave them in their native formatting (don't know if this makes a difference or not). Second, I never have any other apps running in the FG on my Mac when I connect (only the Finder). In OS 9, files must be dragged onto my hard drive icon for them to copy successfully. In OS X, they can be copied directly onto the desktop.

To add files from my Mac to my CF card, I just simple drag them onto the CF "disk" icon.

Also, I delete the files that my Mac writes to the CF card fairly regularly. If the card is formatted by EPOC, you don't have to worry about it. I imagine that if they are formatted by Mac or left in their native formatting, it might cause a problem as these files are there to indicate folder structure, etc. I hope this helps and would be happy to provide more information to anyone. Macs and EPOC devices are wonderful and can exist quite peacefully together!

brian

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Date: 16 Jan 2003 08:02:05 +0100

From: "Sergio"

Subject: Re: Macro5 procedure problem

Hi Owen!

I have a problem with a macro I'm working on. The macro needs an external .ini file, and I want that file to reside in the same folder as the macro. In Macro5 the path of the macros folder is user configurable, and even though most people probably keep their macros in \Macros on either C or D, they can be anywhere. According to the Macro5 manual, the path can be read from "Macros$:", but when I try to read it in my macro, I get "Procedure not found".

If I'm not wrong, and going by heart, it's not a procedure "Macros$:" but a simple variable "Macros$" that stores the path of your macros folder; you don't even have to declare it at the beginning of your macro.

Let me know!

Ciao

Sergio

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Date: 16 Jan 2003 08:11:52 +0100

From: "Jason Garbutt"

Subject: CF reader & Windoze

On 14 Jan 2003 13:52:47 +0100, Owen H. Morgan wrote: "It's the same with WindoZe. It's a long time since I've allowed WindoZe to come anywhere near the CF card for my MC218 except via PsiWin. Copying the contents of the CF card to the PC hard-disk via the (PCMCIA) CF reader and then writing it back to the card again would totally mess up the directory structure of the card. Long file- and folder names were often truncated and particularly those that contained any of the Norwegian characters (æ,ø,å) would be FUBAR."

Hi Owen,

I used to have this problem with Windows98 and a SanDisk serial card reader. However, I now use Windows XP and a Jenoptik USB CF reader and the setup works faultlessly - i.e. no card errors and all my long filenames stay exactly as they are. It's also fast, a full 32MB card copies in about 40 seconds - a tad quicker than PsiWin, and I don't get a trash can !

Regards,

Jason

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Date: 16 Jan 2003 08:30:23 +0100

From: Darryl Kempster

Subject: MMC to PC card adaptor

Kevin Thorne asked :

"I know Sandisk make a MMC to PC card adaptor but trying to order it on-line is not possible using Web on my S7. I'm just wondering if anyone knows where this can be obtained via mail order?"

Sandisk make a 4-in-1 PC card adaptor which reads Smartmedia, SD, Memory Stick and MultiMedia cards. Cost about £35.

But I'd recommend trying to get hold of the PC card adaptor which will read CF cards as well. That way you could use it for the Psion and the Nokia (and transfer data between the 2?) Plus it will stand you in good stead for whatever else comes along in the future.

I saw one in a computer market in Poland last month so they shouldn't be too hard to track down over here. Can't remember the manufacturer though. And I've just read about the release of a 7-in-1 PC card adaptor but again forgot the company. (Are there really 7 memory formats?!)

Best place to try is probably

Expansys 0161 8680868

or if not then one of these might help. They all do mail order as far as I know

Scan 0870 755 4747

Clove 0870 7270037

Exportech +44 (0) 1202 422 570

Good luck

Darryl

Getting tattooed in Derby

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Date: 16 Jan 2003 14:05:28 +0100

From: Jan R Gustafsson

Subject: Re: CF Cards

Kevin Collins wrote at 14 Jan 2003 23:13:19 +0100 in EPOC DIGEST V1 # 148

> Roughly two years ago, I purchased a 128 Mb CF

> card, which I thought would solve all my storage

> problems. Strictly from a storage point of view,

> it did, but the speed factor was a *major*

> drawback...

Kevin,

I recently bought a Transcend 128mB 26x here in Sweden for about €60 and replaced my old Sandisk 64mB which had been a disappoitment. I was very happy to make the same observation as you: a remarkable better speed performance.

Cheers,

Jan G

Stockholm, Sweden

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Date: 16 Jan 2003 14:05:31 +0100

From: Jan R Gustafsson

Subject: FW: Pocket reader

FYI

Regards,

Jan G

Stockholm, Sweden

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Subject: FW: Pocket reader

Author: "Barbara.Thompson"

Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:35:50 +0100

Dear Mr Gustafsson,

Thank you for your e mail.

The pocket reader you are requesting is now discontinued.

Kind Regards

Barbara

Please send any replies

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From: Jan R GustafsSent: 08 January 2003 20:34

To: sales

Subject: Pocket reader

Hi!

Is the Siemens Pocket reader not longer for sale or...?

Regards,

Jan G

Sweden

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Date: 16 Jan 2003 17:23:09 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: OPL problem (Morse-It macro)

Hi!

Just when I thought everything was fine, I found a problem with my Morse-It macro which none of the Beta testers have mentioned.

If the user touches the screen or changes the foreground application while Morse-It is running, there will be problems. There is still no way (to my knowledge) Morse-It can cause damage to your data, but I wish to prevent any unwanted behaviour, so here is what I need help with:

The main body of Morse-It executes within a WHILE - ENDWH loop like this:

WHILE VAR1<VAR2 AND KEY=0

Here's the stuff I want it to do

ENDWH

As you can see, any keypress will stop it and allow the macro to get all its ducks in a row and exit gracefully. I need the same to happen if someone touches the screen or the foreground application is changed. (Say an alarm goes off)

How do I test, preferably in the WHILE sentence if either of these have occurred?

The only command I can find that can be used to test for screen touches seems to be GETEVENT32, but that is no good, as it stops and waits rather than test during execution.

As for checking that the foreground application hasn't changed, I tried testing whether TASKUID had changed, but it seems this is set at the start of the macro and does not change if the foreground application is changed by external forces like the user touching a silkscreen button or an alarm going off.

Any ideas would be welcome.

PS I see that both SaveMail and REM get into trouble if the user touches the screen, so it seems neither Sergio nor Rolf have found a way to trap this event...? (Are you there?)

Owen

Thought for the day:

Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive insane.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-53°20.87'N 6°14.83'W

Dublin City Moorings

http://home.no.net/naomij

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Date: 16 Jan 2003 18:12:44 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: OPL problem (Morse-It macro)

Hi!

After I the last message, I found that GETEVENTA may solve my problem, but I haven't figured out how to use it.

A data file is opened immediately before the WHILE statement and closed immediately after the ENDWH.

If a key is pressed, the macro exits gracefully closes the file and tidies things up. If the foreground application is changed or the screen is touched, I simply want it to close the data file and stop immediately.

Owen

Thought for the day:

Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive insane.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-53°20.87'N 6°14.83'W

Dublin City Moorings

http://home.no.net/naomij

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