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Date: 24 Jan 2003 16:41:40 +0100

From: Michael Degn

Subject: Using Palm as bridge between Mac and Psion

Answer to Tim Williams

> It is possible to communicate via infrared between a Palm and a Psion. I find this a useful way of sending stuff from the Psion to my Mac. Unfortunately, the Palm Pilot only recognises its own file types. Consequently, a file successfully  beamed from the Psion to the Palm is automatically deleted.

Can somebody tell me how I can send files to the Palm without the Palm destroying them? <

Hi Tim, I'm not an expert in the Palm area, but I'll try to answer to my best knowledge.

As you know, the Psion is based upon a FAT file structure that consists of individual files. PalmOS is based on VFS (Virtual File System) and has no file structure in the same way as Epoc. If you are familiar with M$ Outlook, you'll know that all emails, attachments etc. are stored in a single file, outlook.pst. I guess PalmOS is managed in a similar way.

However, if the Palm device is expandable, e.g. with a SD card, the card will have a file structure though. With some third party programs you can access and manage the files. Take a look at FileZ (

http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?sid=695889200301202347 56&prodID=9992 ).

Some other links:

http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?sid=695889200301202347 56&prodID=21934

http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?sid=695889200301202347 56&prodID=11416

I don't know if you can beam unrecognised files to the Palm without being destroyed this way. In order for the PalmOS to handle files they must be registered by the OS as MIME types (much in the same way Epoc uses file recognisers).

Best regards,

Michael Degn

Esbjerg, Denmark

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Date: 24 Jan 2003 16:51:06 +0100

From: "James Cooke"

Subject: Palm with Psion and Mac

TO: Tim Williams

Subject: Using Palm as bridge between Mac and Psion

It is possible to communicate via infrared between a Palm and a Psion. I find this a useful way of sending stuff from the Psion to my Mac.

Unfortunately, the Palm Pilot only recognises its own file types. Consequently, a file successfully  beamed from the Psion to the Palm is automatically deleted.

Can somebody tell me how I can send files to the Palm without the Palm destroying them?

Tim,

The Palm doesn't actually delete the file - it just won't accept a file that doesn't have Palm creator ID. If all you are trying to do I get a file from your Psion to a Mac, won't backing up your Psion to the Mac accomplish this? Alternately, are there no flash card readers available for the Mac?

Regards, Jim

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Date: 24 Jan 2003 17:03:39 +0100

From: Michael Degn

Subject: Multi copies HELP

Answer to Dan Siegel

> Is anyone else getting multiple copies of the digest.  I have received 10 or more a day ver the past five days. <

Hi Dan,

I'm sorry to hear about your problem. Unfortunately there isn't much I can do about it.

The problem is that when the Digest is sent out we loose connection to your providers mail server with a "timed out" message. As the system keeps trying to send the email it seems that some of them obviously gets through, resulting in multiple copies in your inbox.

Please contact your provider to see if there are any problems and have them to solve it (it indicates that the problem lies at your provider).

Best regards,

Michael Degn

Esbjerg, Denmark

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Date: 24 Jan 2003 18:12:00 +0100

From: ALYG

(Andrew Longdon)

Subject: Re: Remanufactured 5mxs

For Owen:

> Could someone please provide e-mail addresses for Morgan Computers and > whoever is selling the English language Pro? (I don't have access to

> the www.)

(Head Office)

,\ndy

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Date: 24 Jan 2003 21:08:31 +0100

From: "Leonel Mollinedo"

Subject: Problem when synchronising revo with microsoft outlook, Duplicates data in contacts.

Hello:

Has anyone had the same problem, please help me out.

As expressed above each time i synchronize my revo plus with the Microsoft

Outlook it duplicates contacts, entries, adn it displays a sign that tells

that there are some missing items either onthe Revo or in the PC, so  if

press the yes option it would delete the missing items on the machine, with

th emissing items, but it nevers end up the operation. Maybe there it´s an

small patch or program that can help me, i´ll be glad to listen to your

suggestions or solutions..

HAppy new Year 2003.

Leonel

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Date: 24 Jan 2003 21:09:32 +0100

From: Peter Keene

Subject: NETBOOK RUGGEDNESS / JOTTER / MS WORD ON P7

Hi Guys,

For Gary re netBook ruggedness:

I can vouch for the ruggedness of the netBook Gary. The worst thing I've ever done to mine was to knock it (open) off a waist-high desk onto a carpeted floor. There was no damage whatsoever.

For Itamar re entry limit in Jotter:

Yep Itamar, there is a limit to the length of entries in Jotter as I discovered much to my chagrin last month. I can't tell you exactly how many characters it is but at a guess it was at about 500 - 600 words.

For Tom R re MS Word on P7:

The ER5 ROM has an MS Word converter Tom so, yes, you can read MS Word docs on your S7 without any additional app or utility. It gives you a read-only file but if you select all and then copy the text into an EPOC Word document you can work on it. Of course if you want to send it back to a PC you'll have to use nConvert or PsiWin.

Regards,

Peter

Cape Town RSA

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Date: 24 Jan 2003 21:28:02 +0100

From: "Leonel Mollinedo"

Subject: Sites of freeware of ebooks and related or executing programs.

Hello:

Some time ago i was looking for programs to read books on my revo plus and also a site where i can share or download free ebooks, for this types of machines, do comone nows a related site.

Thanks for the info.

Leonel

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Date: 24 Jan 2003 23:15:14 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Siemens Pocket Reader

Darryl Kempster wrote:-

<< the shop selling Siemens Pocket Reader is still there. £25 + £5 VAT. You'll also need a cable to connect it to your Psion - about £15 I think from Expansys or Psionleads. >>

Mine came with a cable and Windows software in the box.  EPOC software off the web.  You will need a null modem adapter for use with a Psion, but plugs into a normal serial port.  If like me you use a GPS, the supplied cable fits in place of the GPS.

--

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 24 Jan 2003 23:34:19 +0100

From: "Alan Jones"

Subject: Epoccoffee

I too have limited Italian, but enough to realise that the creator of this page must have had *great* fun doing it. I wonder how many orders he's had for his software....

(and I wonder how long it took to doctor the screenshots. Very good!)

AJ

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Date: 25 Jan 2003 08:57:16 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: Re:  CF reader and Macintosh

Howdy!

Rolf Brunsting wrote (> ):

> I have a CF card reader attached to my home PC

> (Windows 95) as well as my office PC (Windows NT4)

> and have no problems with copying files back and

> forth.

What OS are you using on your PC's? Another user said he used to have the same problem as me, but has had no more problems since he changed his WindoZe version from 98 to XP. I'm using 98 second edition on my bronze age Toshiba. Apparently, XP uses a different filing system from 98.

Owen

Thought for the day:

Nothing is 100% certain, bug free or IBM compatible.

--

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Dublin City Moorings

http://home.no.net/naomij

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Date: 25 Jan 2003 15:31:15 +0100

From: Michael Degn

Subject: Note taking

Answer to Itamar Engelsman

> Note taking - You just gave me an idea. We have each year an exhibition in Cologne in March where I need to make notes about each visit of (potential) clients. Instead of just in WORD I could do it in a jotter file with an entry for each client. Is there a maximum no. of letters per entry in jotter ? If so, I can put the discussions in an attached word file. <

Hi Itamar,

Yes, there is a maximum of letters per entry of approximately 8300 bytes. However, you can insert a Word object just a few bytes before you reach the limit (it MUST be before reaching the limit) to have unlimited size.

I find the idea very good and interesting. With some creative thinking you can actually use the built-in applications in a clever way without having to spend a fortune on third party applications.

Best regards,

Michael Degn

Esbjerg, Denmark

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Date: 25 Jan 2003 16:35:26 +0100

From: "Arent Kits van Heijningen[106016.3614]"

Subject: Re: NetBook, Dana

On  21 Jan 2003 23:18:21 +0100

Jim Watson~Gove <jimwatsongove x at x earthlink dot net> wrote about : NetBook, Dana

>>My adventures with the Dana are continuing.  There's so much activity on the software front that it's wading through chaos to figure things out.  Wish there was an elist for Palm like this one for Psion.

Sorry , no elist ( yet ) but there is a great Webboard at :

http://www1.alphasmart.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?category=3

Give it a shot !

Last week I had the opportunity to give the Dana a brief spin on the

Nederlandsche Onderwijs Tentoonstelling , held at the Jaarbeurs in Utrecht

My verdict :

The keyboard is superb ( see ratings for PDA/HPC keyboards below )

1 Alphasmart Dana

2 PHILIPS Velo 1/500

3 Psion Netbook

4 HP Jornada 680/690/7** series Sharp Classic Zaurus ( 5*** series ) and

Psion S5 series` ( s5/s5mx/mc218 )

The screen is a revelation , especially for older eyes , but requires

decent lighting

Alphaword uses the entire screen

The ability to touch the "on" key and then just type away is what makes

this thing attractive

Yes the size may be an issue , but if one -like me - already got past the

vast size of an USR Courier V Everything dialup modem and a ZyXEL P652

ADSL ditto  , this is not an issue

It is however very light-weight and quite durable

Gotchas :

Mac/Unix connectivity limited ( comparable to psion ) full connectivity on

Mac/Unix requires VirtualPC/VMware/Wine and windows

I spoke with Mr Dirk Foch ( who is in charge of Alphasmart's european

operations ) about the Dana , and while speaking  he pulled his from his

backpack and compared it to the one at the show

Both had the same firmware revision on it ( 1.01 )

There are some freeware Telnet/terminal programs for it . so you could

access sailor.lib.md.us on it

let us know

k

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Date: 25 Jan 2003 17:08:43 +0100

From: Owen H. Morgan

Subject: Re:  Tablet Devices

Howdy!

Rolf Brunsting wrote (> ):

> They're two sides of the same coin - the one

> doesn't work without the other.

Exactly, being willing to sell a device to other users than the very narrow target market is not the same as marketing it to others.

> The last companies

> to withdraw from this section of the market were

> the ones that were longest active in it - Psion,

> Sharp and Hewlett-Packard. Indicating that there's

> (much) more to it than marketing.

It's quite possible that the early WinCE clamshell devices with their unstable OS and limited applications actually contributed to the demise of Psion. A lot of people who've seen me use my Psions assumed they were CE devices.

> The people who see me working with my Psion tend

> to be impressed by the technology - that you can

> pack a lot of what their home PC can do, from word

> processing to web browsing, into such a small form

> factor. It's a pity that the interest rarely

> results in these people buying a Psion or other

> PDA.

In a surprising number of cases people have bought Psions as a direct result of seeing me using one. These people include my mother, my sister, several friends, workmates and an ex boss. Sadly, these days I have to tell people that the machine is discontinued.

> << The general public simply never knew these

> devices existed... >>

> I think you should give the general consumer more

> credit than that as many of them see a wide range

> of electronic goods, including handheld computers,

> in the shops.

Yes, but it's been my experience that in many cases they have no idea what the device is capable of, often thinking it's little more than a more expensive version of those 10 quid personal organisers you get for free when you sign up with a book club.

> Recommendations only work when the interest in

> buying the device in question is already there.

This is not always the case. As I said, I've been responsible for quite a few people buying Psions. The one application that has probably sold more Psions than any other is PhoneMan. Unfortunately, with the huge variety of phones on the market, it has become impossible for Xenobyte to keep it compatible with the more advanced ones.

Owen

Thought for the day:

Croll's query:

If tin whistles are made of tin, then of what are foghorns made?

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Dublin City Moorings

http://home.no.net/naomij

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