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Epoc Digest Thu, 13 Mar 2003 Volume 01 : Number 199

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In today's Epoc Digest 22 messages:

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- How to upgrade Psion 3a using Psiwin233

- Re: Sony Laptops

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 198

- Re: Your email message was blocked

- Roaming,

- More from Rumour Central

- PsiWin Backup & Restore

- EPOC DIGEST V1 # 198 - Spam

- Admin

- Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 198

- Language filters/Memoware IMDB files

- ADMIN

- RE: Restoring my revo from copied backup files

- PhoneMan and P800

- T68i: Best settings for CSD, GPRS?

- Computer stuff in Edinburgh

- Re: Messages from the Epoc Digest Team to all

- Modem settings for Sharp GX10

- USB-serial cable

- Re: Web and Google

- Emails on D V1 # 187

- ADMIN

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Date: 12 Mar 2003 22:18:10 +0100

From: Andrew Hardy

Subject: How to upgrade Psion 3a using Psiwin233

Hi,

I've been happily using my 5MX with Psiwin 233 for some time now. My

wife has the S3a, which has been starting to show its age lately. I have

a spare 5 for when the inevitable happens!

Although I can back-up the S3a, I can't see the 'upgrade files' option

that I dimly recall from the past.

Does 233 include the upgrade option, or do I need to load something

earlier? I can't easily check as Psiwin insists on other versions being

removed before it will run.

Andy

P.S Running on Win2k

Andy Hardy. PGP ID: 0xA62A4849

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Date: 12 Mar 2003 23:14:35 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Re: Sony Laptops

michael robins wrote:-

<< For my purposes I also included in by budget a Belkin (overpriced) USB to serial adaptor and a USB to Infra red dongle (from Maplin). The USB to serial adaptor worked fine - but only after I had downloaded the latest WIN XP drivers from Belkin >>

I also bought a Belkin, a F5U103 Serial/USB adapter with a new Win XP laptop (Compaq 1525) but the two CDs had 95/98 & 2000 drivers.

I went to the Belkin web site and downloaded their XP drivers, but they were 2000 drivers, with instructions for XP.

But this fails to work with PsiWin. Does PsiWin 2.3.3 running on XP require manual changes to the Registry?

Have you found newer XP drivers?

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 12 Mar 2003 23:15:58 +0100

From: "Steve Hodgson"

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 198

> The reason why BeOS appears to work is that it has been written for

> PC hardware which the Virtual PC application emulates. Psions

> don't use PC hardware - their ARM processors are quite different from

> the Intel x86 and Pentium processors. You therefore can't run an > EPOC

OS image, as supplied with the Series 5mx Pro and netBook, on Virtual

PC. What may be possible is to run the EPOC emulator

> which uses 32-bit Windows as host platform.

My guess would be that the BeOS version that Sanjay used was BeOS

Personal Edition. This is a version that can be started from within

Windows and works within about 500MB of (disk) memory. I think there

is a Linux distro that also uses a similar approach to avoid the need

to create partitions etc.

So, as you say, it should be possible to run the EPOC emulator with

Virtual PC as if running on a Wintel PC.

Regards,

Steve Hodgson

PS As an aside, I believe that MS have just bought Virtual PC (http://

www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/29402.html) so it may be interesting to

see whether it remains possible to run Windows software on Macs in the

future.

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 00:01:00 +0100

From: ALYG

(Andrew Longdon)

Subject: Re: Your email message was blocked

Orion Telecom's automated content monitoring gateway wrote:

> > ...It believes it may contain unacceptable or foul language. > > Please remove any inappropriate language and send it again. > > Orion mail scanning rule: Bothways : Block Unacceptable

> > Language Script Offensive Language (Extensive) Triggered

> > Expression: sh!t OR sh!tting OR sh!ts OR sh!ttin OR sh!tty

> > Triggered 1 times weighting 60

I find it laughable that a company uses software to find offensive words and then repeats them 5 times.

Now, class, please conjugate the verb to sh!t...

,\ndy (who NEVER swears... ;-)

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 00:13:23 +0100

From: Itamar

Subject: Roaming,

Answer to: Martin Yirrell

Re.: Roaming - What is the use of "knowing" there is a telephone number behind the call if you don't register it and do something with it like testing whether it is an "allowed" connection or not ? Can they registere each and every call where it came from ?

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 05:04:51 +0100

From: Jim Watson~Gove

Subject: More from Rumour Central

I had a conversation with the repair company up in Toronto, Canada, concerning the battery upgrade on my two Mako's. Several interesting items came up.

He mentioned that when repairing the cable on the 5mx, he uses a thicker cable without the hole (sic) that's in the OEM part. He identified the cable as being made in Taiwan so I suspect the cable from Germany is likewise.

When I mentioned the final demise of Psion support, he told me not to write off Psion just yet, that there was a new Psion in the pipeline. I mentioned

the rumors about the new netbook and he stated that it was something more in the lines of a handheld like the 5mx. I tried to get more info but he said he was under a nondisclosure and couldn't say more.

I've always had good things to say about Psion USA's repair performance (I've used them a bunch since my first 3a) but after my last go round with them (of which I admit I am half to blame), I am now having the outfit in Toronto do

all of my future repair work. He seems quite competent and you can talk with him anytime on the telephone. And his prices are good.

My brainstorm (with no input from anybody), to keep the rumor mill churning would be a color 5mx (I don't like color but the market sure does), a faster processor, 32 meg on board, a rechargeable battery instead of the 2 AA's (arghhh!!! indeed but the market again would want it) with a backup battery to avoid the Revo/Mako debacle. I'll leave the interface/accessory fantasies to you power users.

jim - port townsend

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 05:23:16 +0100

From: Jim Watson~Gove

Subject: PsiWin Backup & Restore

Steve,

I have been plagued with similar problems with my 5 and 5mx, C and D drives, and currently follow a strict policy of _never_ doing an incremental backup.

I _always_ move my backup folder out of the PsiWin folder on my desktop to force a full backup. It's a PITA in that my recurrent backup takes 20-30 minutes each time (not really that big a deal), but when I restore (I move between my 5mx and my Mako's periodically), it produces an exact copy every time with no surprises.

jim - port townsend

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 07:40:47 +0100

From: "Schopf, Wulf"

Subject: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 198 - Spam

Hi to all,

with respect to symbol, I would prefer to use anything else. The proposal of <at> is ok for me.

Best Regards

Wulf

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 08:13:05 +0100

From: MartinYirrell

Subject: Admin

re Spam

I have noticed an increase in the number of unsolicited emails received via this address. While I have no problem with Rolf's suggestion I wonder why we need to keep the email addresses at all in the web based digests. There is of course the question of the email addresses included as part of a message, often of non digest subscribers.

regards

Martin Yirrell

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 08:55:41 +0100

From: "Ian Chapple"

Subject: Re: EPOC DIGEST V1 # 198

Itamar,

>> Answer to: Ian Chapple

Re.: Connecting to Compuserve - What modem do you use and which script ? Do you know that you need to enter a script in the internet settings ? <<

The connection Compuserve works when I connect to the Interner using Web. I think there might be connection with the Compuserve mail servers. If I choose to open my Compuserve mailbox, and choose to dial up with Compuserve, it nearly always fails; this has the effect of dropping the connection. If I open the Compuserve mailbox but dial up with another provider, the mailbox nearly always fails to open the first time, but the connection is not dropped; if I open the mailbox again, it opens without a problem. The problem seems to be trying to initiate a connection to Compuserve by opening the mailbox or sending an email. I suspect it's some sort of timing issue, but it's a fairly recent occurrence...

Cheers, Ian.

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 11:07:23 +0100

From: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Subject: Language filters/Memoware IMDB files

Hi.

Owen wrote something like "sh1t" (school chemistry lessons coming back after 30 something years) or "sheyet" (Yorkshire-speak) and "Orion Telecom's automated content monitoring gateway" rejected the Digest!

Then Rolf V. referred to that message and quoted it - including 5 examples of such "offensive" terms. I am sure he didn't mean to but by doing so he virtually *guaranteed* that the Digest would again be rejected.

But I think he was right. There are much worse ways of using language and the terms *automatically* complained of are routinely used by many, including me and many of my friends. This forum is fairly mature and adult with no obscenity I can remember, so such terms, routine on TV (not a commendation, just a comment) are not really offensive. And after all, they're just words; it's how they're used that can make them bad.

So I don't think the right thing to do is censor our language according to the "Orion Telecom" standards but to change his rules for this Digest or the address it is sent to.

On another subject, I am a film lover and I would like the IMDB 1920+ detailed TR file but the Memoware site will *not* download the complete file as I only have an unreliable and slow (aren't BT wonderful) 56k connection. I can connect to the 'Net for over 2 hours but the Memoware download cuts off at 1 hour (they have confirmed this). Neither TR or Proporta have yet replied to me.

I'll get a friend with a faster connection to download it and bring it on a CD but as TR is used on a lot of Psions and TR supplied the file on Memoware, surely that file ought to be available from them.

Of course, I'm p*ss*ng in the wind here!

Happy days,

Phil.

"The trouble with mornings is that

they come when you're not awake."

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 11:07:28 +0100

From: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Subject: ADMIN

Hi folks,

The Anti-spammers reckon that replacwith <at> or anything similar is not always effective as the spam address-harvesting-engines are savvy to that. The digests are already available in zip form so that is good. If the eAddress in an HTML document is masked somehow, as a form or something (I can't remember how to do it) then the engines can't recognise it as an eAddress.

The find-and-replace function (I know you already know) should make whatever solution easy.

Good luck,

Phil.

"When some men discharge an obligation,

you can hear the discharge for miles around."

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 12:22:24 +0100

From: "Adam Williamson"

Subject: RE: Restoring my revo from copied backup files

All,

How would I restore my revo's lost programs and files due to failing to recharge from backed up files that have been copied due to reformatting my laptop's hard drive?

I have reinstalled psiwin and it does not seem to recognise them. Coping files to my revo results in them not being recognised eg can't open my old contacts file. I also tried copying them from my saved directory on my laptop to the new psiwin backup this did not work.

Any suggestion beyond paying £1 min to call psion uk?

Regards

Adam Williamson

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 14:00:53 +0100

From: boller

Subject: PhoneMan and P800

Steve replied alright, but just to indicate that it is "very unlikely" that they will develop the necessary software.

Let's hope he reads the list and finds out how easy it would be...

cheers

francois

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:01:05 +0100

From: "Wong Koi Hin"

Subject: T68i: Best settings for CSD, GPRS?

Hi,

I have set up my T68i modem profile in my Netbook, both with a CSD and GPRS settings. I have managed to connect with both successfully. My question is how much does the settings under "Advanced" affect the performance of the phone? I have seen some contraditory settings on the Internet. Naturally Mike McConnell's site is my first choice for settings, however I would love to hear what other T68i users have for their settings as follows:

Flow Control

Terminal detect

Carrier detect

Does anyone know of an optimum setting?

Thank you for reading this!

Koi Hin

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:10:35 +0100

From: Owen Morgan

Subject: Computer stuff in Edinburgh

Howdy!

I'll be in Edinburgh from the 26th to the 28th of March and would love too meet any Psioneers in the area.

I want to buy the new Philips Jackrabbit III combined DVD player, MP3 CD player and CDRW. I can't find one here in Ireland, at least not at an acceptable price. Could anyone here recommend either a shop in Edinburgh that would have it in stock or could get one in for me before I arrive. (Don't confuse it with the old Jackrabbit II that doesn't play DVD's.)

Failing that, could someone please try to find the best price for me from a mailorder company that will send to Ireland?

Owen

Thought for the day:

A man with one watch knows what time it is.

With two watches he is never sure.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-53°20.87'N 6°14.83'W

Dublin City Moorings

http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 9205309

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:10:42 +0100

From: Owen Morgan

Subject: Re: Messages from the Epoc Digest Team to all

Howdy!

Epoc Digest Team wrote (> ):

> What about if we replace sign in each sender

> address with e.g. <at>? So nobody can scan the

> Psioneering site and find real addresses.

Didn't we go through all this just after the new digest was started? I said then and will repeat now that I NEVER EVER put my e-mail on the www and do not allow others to do so either. Also, I would NEVER EVER put someone else's e-mail on the web or give it in computer readable format in a public place like a newsgroup or e-mail list. I thought we settled back then that the digest would not be put on the web with e-mail addresses?

> 2. Abuses

> -------------

> > Expression: shit OR shitting OR shits OR shittin

> OR shitty

> > Triggered 1 times weighting 60

I'm all for filtering to keep out spam, but blocking single words like this seems a bit OTT. Shit isn't even a dirty word. I stepped in some the other day, and I can tell you I used much worse language at the time.

Owen

Thought for the day:

Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive insane.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-53°20.87'N 6°14.83'W

Dublin City Moorings

http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 92053097

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:10:51 +0100

From: Owen Morgan

Subject: Modem settings for Sharp GX10

A guy at work has a Revo and a Sharp GX10 phone. He's looking for modem settings for it. Rolf? Anyone?

I don't know what features this phone has (looked more like jukebox to me...), but assuming it has high speed or GPRS, I'd appreciate settings for those too. I forgot to ask what network he's on, but it'll be either Vodaphone or O2 Ireland.

Owen

Thought for the day:

Always yield to temptation, for it may not pass your way again.

Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-53°20.87'N 6°14.83'W

Dublin City Moorings

http://home.no.net/naomij

Phone and SMS:

In Ireland: +353 (0)87 7474173

In Norway: +47 92053094173

In Norway: +47 92053097

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:27:20 +0100

From: Saj Jumaani

Subject: USB-serial cable

Alan R Morris worte:

try a USB-serial converter cable (comes with a cd containing the driver). bought mine at www.proporta.com. am using a laptop running winxp. it works, i have no problem with synch. the only hassle is opening the cover of rs232 port of the nb.

Trygve wrote:

<BTW: Talking about laptops... Has anyone else noticed that floppy drives now are optional extras? >

they are. my new laptop came without a floppy drive. i was offered £66+ for a sony floppy drive by the salesman which i declined. i think floppies are becoming obsolete. cf disks are a lot better, smaller yet has a bigger capacity. and i can use it in nb too.

regards,

saj

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:39:31 +0100

From: Kevin Collins

Subject: Re: Web and Google

Hi folks...

To Johan Lindahl (> ):

> Try http://www.google.com/palm instead! This page is a > simpler interface suited for palmtops.

Thanks for that, Johan. I also found that I *could* search Google using the Web browser, but only if I settled for "Search Pages from Ireland", rather than "Search the Web". Similarly, as I said, Web will search Yahoo.co.uk, but not Yahoo.com!

I prefer Opera in any event (and these vagaries of Web consolidate that preference!), but Opera isn't really practical in a Revo, IMHO.

Regards,

Kevin [Cork, Ireland]

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 18:19:50 +0100

From: Mark DEPPE

Subject: Emails on D V1 # 187

<<<Michael Degn

Answer to Itamar Engelsman

...Renee will have to choose between the risk of loosing his emails if he keep them on drive C or an increasing slowdown in performance if he keep them on drive D, but the latter solution will at least keep the emails safe.>>>

My experience has been greater loss of data using drive D due to corrupt CF especially likely if one has battery problems. I would recommend daily backup of C:/ to D then if the battery goes then there is a backup of all emails on D and all the other useful data.

Kind regards

Mark

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Date: 13 Mar 2003 07:47:57 +0100

From: michael robins

Subject: ADMIN

I too have received the SPAM message. I also received one about two weeks ago, and last week I received 3 emails from a Thomas Vidbjørg (whom I have no knowledge of), all of which contained viruses.

For me this is quite unusual, however without knowing how my email adress was picked up I havn't pointed a finger at anyone ;-).

In short, I agree with aliasing our email adresses, though I am not sure if <at> insteadis a sufficient alias.

regards

Mike Robins

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