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Epoc Digest Sun, 04 Jan 2004 Volume 01 : Number 416

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In today's Epoc Digest 11 messages:

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- Re: Opera on nB

- Dismantling netBook to fix screen calibration drifting

- Re: Revo Connection Problem

- re: Backlight on 5 and 5mx, Re: Series 7 and Mbook screen cables, My Revo has fallen and cain't get up!

- RE: Epoc Digest V1 # 415

- (Fwd) Re: Psion freezing when connected to Internet (esp. Email)

- Re: Phoneman/Multitasking/VReader

- Fw: Revo Connection Problem

- Re: 3-pin mains sockets

- RE: netBook Pro Symbian

- Re: Dana vs. MBook

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Date: 2 Jan 2004 21:32:50 +0100

From: Daniele Squarci

Subject: Re: Opera on nB

Alan Morris wrote:

>> I've used Opera to display the occasional e-mail that arrived in Email as html text code - ie not as an attachment, but text with visible html code mixed in and also received attachments that were html or pictures.<<

How did you do this, Alan?

>>Today for the first time I used Opera to connect to a web site with the 6210e active after downloading e-mails. I got an error - Reason code: KERN-EXEC and Reason number: 3.<<

I'm afraid this is a fairly common error with Opera. I'm not sure what causes it, but it seems to occur frequently with java-heavy sites.

Ciao

Daniele Squarci - Italy

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Date: 2 Jan 2004 22:24:58 +0100

From: Christopher Holly

Subject: Dismantling netBook to fix screen calibration drifting

Ok, I've pushed where the label used to be on my Malay netBook. I've recalibrated and reset to factory. It just keeps drifting. When I have had too much coffee, I have to fight the urge to pound the stylus right throught the screen! Is it worth dismantling and reconnecting the cable to the MB? From what I can see, I don't have to dismantle it very much to get to that cable connection. Is it likely to do any good? Has anyone tried this? Has anyone wished they had left well enough alone and just kept pushing on the label?

Chris Holly

830 S. Fess Ave.

Bloomington, IN 47401

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Date: 2 Jan 2004 22:25:41 +0100

From: Neil Ogden

Subject: Re: Revo Connection Problem

I have done several things since to try and solve this.

1. Uninstalled and reinstalled PSI Win (several times) - no change

2. Downloaded a OSI Win registry cleaner to delete all the registry entries after uninstalling. This doesn't appear to work on my computer. Can anyone tell me where the registry entries are to remove so that I can then reinstall PSI Win as if it was totally new to my computer?

3. I have used a windows utility called HyperTerminal to prove that the revo is communicating with my Com Port OK. When it was disconnected, nothing was coming through, and when it was connected again, there was a signal. There did not appear to be anything else trying to communicate with that COM port.

4. I have looked at the device manager, where there are only one each of port 1 and 2 listed. It is in the properties box of PSI Win where there are two of each of the COM ports listed, but only one of them is ticked.

5. I have tried the revo on the other com port that I also know to be working.

So, how do I tell PSIWin there is only 1 COM 1 and 1 COM2? This seems to be the problem and I am totally baffled as to what to do next.

Many Thanks for anyone's help.

Neil

Date: 2 Jan 2004 00:18:29 +0100

From: Trygve Henriksen

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 414

Greetings!

Neil Ogden wrote:

> One other thing which I think may be significant is that in the properties > box where it lists the com ports, it lists all three com ports twice. I don't

> know when it started listing these twice, but I didn't notice it like this before

> Sunday. Could this be a sign of some sort of com port problem,

> even though I know both com ports are working fine - I've used my digital > camera on both successfully.

That sounds like the problem, yes.

Try to delete the extras, then check that PsiWin is set to use the correct COM port. In fact, to be completely certain, first set it to another COM port, stop Psiwin, start it again, then back to the original.

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Date: 3 Jan 2004 05:10:06 +0100

From: Scott Lloyd

Subject: re: Backlight on 5 and 5mx, Re: Series 7 and Mbook screen cables, My Revo has fallen and cain't get up!

Hello my friends,

Great last digest, just wanted to respond to a few concerns in the last digest: to Stephane, I have a original series 5 1997

vintage and when I activate the backlight, the noise is really loud. My new 5mx still has the backlight noise but not as bad.

Also I recall in the last digest someone needed a 5 or 5mx to transfer some files. I would be more than happy to send my trusty old Series 5 (works great) if anybody needs it. Re: Koi Hin: I have been using my MalayBook with no screen problems at all. I purchased a Series 7 in 1999 and the screen cable failed after one week! I sent the machine back to Psion for repair and it lasted for about 5 months, I think they just replaced the old harness with a similar one. I still have the machine but the screen (touch) response is very poor and I know its time for repair again! But I have a newer Series 7 that

works great for now, and two Malaybooks with no problems, so I think Psion did try to improve the design on the later models. I have done allot of electro/mechanical designs, and anytime you are running a signal or power or both with a clamshell design it can get very tricky, there is some very high stress areas, and usually small gage wire that gets flexed allot. this failure is very common in some cell phones that have the clamshell design. So I do not fault Psion, what usually happens is, you know you have a potential problem, but marketing deadlines and end "o" budget dictate the final episode. But as you know these things come back to haunt you, and can actually tarnish a product badly. Now last but not least, I have always been very careful with my Revo (Mako) not to let the battery run down, but I did. I charged the machine for hours. You know the Revo charges very so....I finish the charge, turn on the Revo, no go! re-boot Revo, error message

"corrupt!" I have been using computers for a long time and I know what this message usually implies......my Revo is dead!

At such a young age!....it was so pretty! I could do a restore but that only restores local files not the OS. Any help would be

helpful. Sorry for the rather large response.Special thanks to Alan Morris for his clear cut definition of Psion's lifecycle. And to Rolf for not replying to my feeding him at my expense in his own country no less! Im sure my friends in the UK would enjoy my company!

Remember, some people are just "legends in their own mind"

God bless from Texas, Happy new year

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Date: 3 Jan 2004 08:54:07 +0100

From: Roy Maidment

Subject: RE: Epoc Digest V1 # 415

Hello All,

Trygve wrote: 'To Roy: Why are you deleteing information on the machine if you sold it? Why not just do a hard reset?'

I wanted to leave as much of the freeware etc. installed, so the new owner can delete what they think they won't need. A case of trying to be too helpful I'm afraid!

Jim wrote: 'Roy, so you don't feel too bad, it's taken me over a year to figure this one out.'

This is probably the only thing that took a long time for me to figure out with my Psion!

Phil wrote: 'Also, if the buyer is going to use the Psion on the I'Net or for eMail you might download either Sink2 or the TCP/IP patch (I use the patch) and put the SIS file on the machine ready and tell them why it's there.'

I must admit I forgot to do this, but I'll certainly point him in the right direction.

With best regards,

RoyM

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Date: 3 Jan 2004 11:38:51 +0100

From: Chris S Handley

Subject: (Fwd) Re: Psion freezing when connected to Internet (esp. Email)

I sent this reply to David before realising he had also sent it to the digest.

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Hello David,

> I'd try re-loading my OS 158 and start from scratch as if it

> were a new machine. In spite of that, the email program still

> hung which confuses me as I don't know how a worm could have

> got back onto the netBook

The worm is NOT on your Netbook, and indeed never will (it does not run Windows software!). The crashes are caused by a worm TRYING to infect your machine, through your internet connection!

If you run the Sink2 program, your Psion will be fine!

> As an aside, do you have any idea how I can connect my

> netBook to my iMac. The iMac only has USB connectors and even

> if it were connected would I be able to down load psion

> programs from the web and install them onto the Psion.

You don't need MacConnect. There is a Java program (written by a Mac owner) which is (apparently) better than MacConnect, and it is free too!

Sorry I can't remember the name, but it should not be too hard to find using Google.

As for the USB problem, you just need a Serial to USB converter. The site for the Java program may contain some hints in this regard too.

> do you think and would I be better off with one of these new

> netBook Pro

Although I don't own one, I would say no! The compatiblity of WinCE software is not certain, and it is not designed as a consumer product anyway.

Thats not even considering it runs using a Microsoft OS (and as such as not nearly as reliable as EPOC).

Regards,

Chris Handley

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Date: 3 Jan 2004 15:22:48 +0100

From: PRAR

Subject: Re: Phoneman/Multitasking/VReader

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>Date: 29 Dec 2003 11:56:56 +0100

>From: John Morris

>Subject: re: Andy Hayes / Phoneman Pro

<<<Andy wrote about Phoneman Pro:"It can't manage (properly) the "multi-level" (sorry I don't know the correct term for when one name can have several phone entries as well as email addresses, addresses, notes etc.) phone book of my Nokia 6310i."

To be fair to Phoneman Pro, neither can Nokia! At work we recently changed from O2 to Orange and were given new phones. We could not find a way of transferring the "multi-level" data from one 6310i to another.

>>>

I've found the best way to manage multi-field contacts is simply to use the Conacts App built into EPOC. Just beam the contacts back and forth between the psion and the phone. It helps that I have input all my contacts using the correct fields.

My SE T68 (and I'd guess almost everything after it) has a Send All option so 'phone to 'phone copying is easy.

>Date: 29 Dec 2003 20:28:55 +0100

>From: Itamar Engelsman

>Subject: Multitasking,

<<<Re. Multitasking - Lately a lot of people talked about the advantage of multitasking of EPOC. I just wonder, who actually uses two programs that run at the same time ? Yes, you can leave them open and jump from one to the other, but which programs do you run simultaneously that work at the same time ?>>>

I quite often have email down loading whilst surfing the web. Also once a month, I start 12 copies of Data and upload the latest .csv fields into them simultaneously. Thirdly I have some rather large Word documents which I tend to hit Ctrl-S on and then flip to the next one to update... Fourthly I often copy data from Web or Word into Agenda entries and having to wait for the programs to start up and load the file and then end and save the file each time would drive me crazy.

At the moment I have these apps open:

System

PhoneMan

Data (4 files)

Word (3 files)

Jotter

Agenda

Contacts

How does that compare to other people?

Is there a conflict between the various ebook reader software? I've installed Tome Raider, ebook and Vreader5 and now Vreader5 just hangs when I try to open a file. I've unistalled ebook now - it was the wrong way round for me and I didn't really get on with it.

(PS for those of you interested in the netpad saga I'm waiting for POS and Psion to reply to the repair enquires...)

PRAR

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Date: 3 Jan 2004 17:02:16 +0100

From: Neil Ogden

Subject: Fw: Revo Connection Problem

I have one more thing to add which I have just realised. If I turn the Revo off, then try and connect, it turns itself on automatically, which shows that my PC is talking to it, but just not properly establishing communication.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Neil Ogden"

To: "Epoc Digest"

Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:25 PM

Subject: Re: Revo Connection Problem

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Date: 3 Jan 2004 18:37:16 +0100

From: Jim Watson-Gove

Subject: Re: 3-pin mains sockets

Euan,

> Can someone in the UK tell me a part description for a > standard UK three pronged, rectangular pin wall socket <

<< www.screwfix.co.uk (perhaps .com will also work)

look in the electrical section for

13A wall socket>>

Will do though my direction keep changing. That Stancor transformer I located came in at over $75. Too pricey for a solution. Still looking for a transformer. With the socket info, I'm at least halfway there.

jim

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Date: 3 Jan 2004 20:01:44 +0100

From: Martin Maxwell

Subject: RE: netBook Pro Symbian

Answer to: Derek Aldous

Subject: Re: netBook Pro Symbian

>> Just curious - does anybody know what is the status of this project ? <<

There is no such project. But there are a some people investing a lot of time in trying to create one. The latest updates are under the netBook Pro section in PDAstreet. There you will also find some user reviews on the WinCE version.

>> What would it take to have the same software on say a Sendo X smartphone (which has an optional keyboard) and a netBook / netpad ? <<

If you refer to the netBook Classic and the current netPad, I do not think porting backwards is a realistic option, even if you managed to make a deal with Sendo and/or Symbian.

If you refer to the netBook Pro and a theoretical future "netPad Pro" based on the same chipset - and perhaps even the future "netTablet Pro" which Psion Teklogix has been hinting about recently - and if there would also be Symbian versions of those machines, chances are quite high that any new OS level feature you find in the Sendo X would also be available in these machines, including Bluetooth keyboard profile, full SDIO support etc. But take note of the two 'if':s.

Kind Regards

Martin Maxwell

Lysekil - Sweden

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Date: 4 Jan 2004 05:52:50 +0100

From: Melvin Woody

Subject: Re: Dana vs. MBook

Peter Rand wrote:

>If it's any help, I have a Series 7 and a Dana. I'm a pretty fast touch typist, and find the Dana's keyboard marginally better. But Palm OS 4.1 is so slow that when I type a sentence on the Dana, I have to pause and let the computer catch up. Given that, and the fact that the Series 7 screen is much better and the EPOC apps are more sophisticated and reliable than their Palm apps, I use the Series 7 almost exclusively. >

That's a great help in my deliberations. Is there another touch

typist out there who can also make this comparison. As I've broused

through the Web, I have run into glowing reports of the netbook keyboard

-- and if it is not incoveniently small, I'll probably opt in that

direction.

Jim Watson-Gove wrote:

>The thing I would suggest is that you should be looking at your projected use of the machine (the Dana is a great machine) before you decide. If you are heavy into word processing, spreadsheet use or database use, I wouldn't recommend it.

I'll probably use it almost exclusively for word processing.

>the processor just didn't have enough horsepower when the word files exceeded a realistic number. I have 20 word files on my Dana now and 4 on my Treo. Both access the files just fine. I have over 1,500 on my 5mx/Mako/MBook, and accessing is instantaneous (took over a minute on the Dana or the Treo when I had around 500 files loaded).

I doubt that I'd need 500 at any one time. But that leads me to ask how one does load files from Windows to either the Dana or the MBook? Does one have to use Convert to transfer each individual file from Windows? Can they be .RTF rather than .DOC? (Most of my files are Wordstar files, but there's a macro to convert them to RTF.) Can one have files stored on a CF card - as on would on a Zip drive or floppy - for either the Dana or the MBook?

Since my last note, I've found and explored the Psi-linux site and gather that they've gotten much further with the 5mx -- but haven't gotten so far with the Netbook. But if they solve some remaining problems, the success with the 5 should be transferable to the Netbook. I'd be glad to learn more about this -- but probably should monitor that site for particulars if I decide on the MBook.