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Epoc Digest Thu, 25 Mar 2004 Volume 01 : Number 483

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In today's Epoc Digest 16 messages:

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- Which GPS?,

- Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 481 (8)

- RMRTask

- Data P800

- RE Which GPS + some questions of OPL programming

- Using S7 with Nokia 6110

- Re: Mbook Internet Connection Impasse

- Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 482 (8)

- OWen's Dud CF card. (Is it contagious?) # 482 (2)

- Re. Rogue Fax accounts

- Re: RIP 5mx :o(

- WiFi question

- Using Psiiwin with USB to Serial Converter and WinXP Prof

- CF card, Broken 5MX, Broadband advice, UPS5D, Rogue Fax accounts,

- Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 482 (8)

- RIP 5mx :o(

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Date: 24 Mar 2004 17:43:06 -0500

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Which GPS?,

Answer to: Alan Morris

Re.: Which GPS? - As to software you wrote "There's a lot more.". can you elaborate what software you use with your Psion/GPS combination besides Route- and Streetplanner ?

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 24 Mar 2004 19:33:10 -0500

From: Charles H. Davies

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 481 (8)

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:31:52 -0500, you wrote:

>Date: 23 Mar 2004 00:14:40 -0500

>From: Martin Maxwell

>Subject: RE: Psion 5mx/Sony Ericsson P800

>Answer to: Charles H. Davies

>Subject: RE: Psion 5mx/Sony Ericsson P800

>Dear Charles,

>>Many thanks for the input it looks as though I am going to be stuck to >manually entering some 1200 database entries !! My programming >prowess ceased with DOS Basic & Foxpro 2.6.

>>Unless somebody has already written such a prog and I would be happy >to pay for a copy.

>Hold on your manual entry for a while please. I am personally getting excited about OPL again, since it is now available in an almost full release for the P800.

>Since this seems to be a common problem, it appears that more Psion users migrate to P800/P900 than they migrate to Series 60 phones, I'd like to look into this matter.

>The problem is that there is currently no Data application for P800/P900, so I will need to write one myself. There is no Sheet either in P800, so Owen's workaround will not work.

>Are you using Data or is your database created by another application?

>Kind regards

>Martin Maxwell

>Kuala Lumpur - Malaysia

Martin,

Will my horses for a while, meantime using Psion's Data with much use

of Notes field. I think that the Psion's Data creates unnecessary

problems by having both Business and Personal entry screens,

especially as it defaults to Personal whereas I really think it should

default to the Business screen. But that's just my opion.

Kind Regards

Charles Davies

Presently in Lisbon, Portugal.

Charles H Davies

23 Wallace Fields

EPSOM Surrey

KT17 3AX

England

Tel:+44 (0)20 8394 0255

Fax:+44 (0)20 8393 2747

***ALWAYS REPLY TO:"chdavies

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Date: 24 Mar 2004 22:21:16 -0500

From: Andy Hayes

Subject: RMRTask

Manuel asked about RMRTask. I registered it a long time ago and found it very useful. It is configurable and should suit most needs. It is shareware and so you can try before you buy. In the end I set up something similar in Powerbase that did the job better (for me). If you have a database app on your Psion, give that a try first.

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Date: 24 Mar 2004 22:58:00 -0500

From: Charles H. Davies

Subject: Data P800

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:13:30 -0500, you wrote:

>In answer to Martin Maxwell, although the P800 doesn't have Data built-in, it's an inexpensive add-on from www.epocware.com . "Handy Databank" is almost a clone of Data and very usable, with a desktop converter, IIRC. ____________________________________________________________________

>Steve Litchfield, 3-Lib, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/

>For Psion and Symbian handhelds, with computer-based training on CD

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>Reviews editor, AllAboutSymbian - http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/

Steve,

Which is the desktop converter you are referring to?

Would this prog accept for example a csv file from my Psion 5mx data ?

Regards

Charles Davies

Charles H Davies

23 Wallace Fields

EPSOM Surrey

KT17 3AX

England

Tel:+44 (0)20 8394 0255

Fax:+44 (0)20 8393 2747

***ALWAYS REPLY TO:"chdavies

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Date: 24 Mar 2004 23:19:02 -0500

From: Jaap Laméris

Subject: RE Which GPS + some questions of OPL programming

Greetings!

With quite an interest I have followed the discussions which GPS Will G. should

obtain for his psion. For the same reason that I also send a similar posting a month ago in this Digest on the use of a GPS and a Psion. With some aid of the only two Digest-readers, who responded, I have now taken the plunge to obtain a Garmin Etrex Legend. (Vlad and Keith G., thanks again!). I don´t have to add much to the already given advices by others, I can only give you the advice in the case that you have the money ( ;-) ) and intending to stay on several places or bicycling over a long distance during several days without having a laptop in your luggage, to get a GPS with a large amount of memory for additional maps. The 8 Mb of the Legend is in that case not quite large enough. Consider the Vista with 24 Mb or the higher range GPS-types with more

memory or with a memory card. The best advice is to consider well the usages and conditions you going to meet with your new GPS.

Speaking on the use of a GPS for long trips without the use of a laptop for reloading maps I have still my question unsanswered for a EPOC program to transfer map data (Garmin .IMG files) from my Psion to the GPS. There are lots of programs who can transfer routes, tracks and waypoints to and from the GPS (like Psitrex, Garpsi and Garoute), but the equivalent of an exxisting MS DOS program like sendmap I have not discovered. Is it since Psioneers don´t really care to see maps on a GPS, because they are able to see the route on the larger screen sized Psions?? I can see that, but when you travelling on a bicycle like Keith , Will and I do, this is not really desirable.

One way to solve my problem is to use the XTM emulator on my Mbook and run Sendmap on it. I have never tried this and am not sure if this is working. Are there other psioneers and OPL programmers, who can tell me or can give me a hint where I can find the technical data how to send data via a serial port? As author of some freeware OPL programs like Biklog and Saillog, I have some knowledge of OPL programming, but I don´t have any experience with communication procedures. Are there here some seasoned communication experts, who can help me??

Many thanks for your help!

Jaap Laméris

Emmeloord, The Netherlands

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Date: 24 Mar 2004 23:50:25 -0500

From: Andrew Lea

Subject: Using S7 with Nokia 6110

Last week I was trying out my S7 with a flash upgraded Psion Gold Card Modem and an old cable-connected Nokia 6110 for e-mails (oddly enough, at San Sebastian de la Gomera where Owen is moored though I did not realise it then). It works after a fashion but seemingly more slowly and with more hangups than the IR link with other more modern phones (eg 7110 or 6310) which I've also used.

Does anyone know (or recall - because this technology is obsolete now!) the optimum modem settings in the S7 modem setup pages for this combination? The relevant manuals are silent on the matter. Or does it make no difference?

Andrew Lea

Wittenham Hill Cider Page

http://www.cider.org.uk

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Date: 25 Mar 2004 00:26:39 -0500

From: Wong Koi Hin

Subject: Re: Mbook Internet Connection Impasse

Reply to Melvin Woody

Dear Melvin,

>>So there must be something amiss with my e-mail settings. Can anyone suggest what to do? I CAN get e-mail through the my college web page, but it's very inconvenient. My second problem arises when I try to connect with my 2Wire wireless router supplied by SBC Yahoo to handle my DSL line. I have a lucent orinoco silver card and set the modem for "rlan" at the suggestion of one of you. But I still can't connect with the 2wire router.

Oh dear, I was hoping 2 digests later someone with better expertise in this area can provide an answer for you. I will to take a (poor) shot at it, and hopefully dont confuse the situation more than it already is!

About the mail problem, unfortunately I dont know what the problem is and email settings are so myriad its almost impossible to know what was wrong. Someone who understood the error codes might have the solution for you. Having said that, have you tried a soft reset? It occasionally does

wonders.)

As for your Orinoco Card be sure to select the appropriate modem setting for it.

You may have pointed out the following information in your previous posts, if so apologies in advance but just wanted to check some basic questions with you.

1)Is your Wireless DSL modem setup and you can browse wirelessly from say your laptop?

2) Your router is configured such that mutliple machines can connect to it? The router does the 'dialing' and authentication to your ISP everytime you turn it on without a PC?

If you wish you can contact me off-list and we can try to figure out what the problem is exactly.

Warm regards,

Koi Hin

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Date: 25 Mar 2004 00:47:19 -0500

From: Martin Maxwell

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 482 (8)

Answer to from: Steve Litchfield

Subject: re: P800 Data<->5mx Data

>>In answer to Martin Maxwell, although the P800 doesn't have Data built-in, it's an inexpensive add-on from www.epocware.com . "Handy Databank" is almost a clone of Data and very usable, with a desktop converter, IIRC. <<

Hi Steve,

Thanks, didn't remember that option. That could probably be the solution. I think what people are asking for is a Data converter between the 5mx/netBook and the P800/P900. If Handy Databank can import/export an *ASCII* CSV file, then this problem would be solved with the following steps:

1. From 5mx/netBook/Revo etc, save data as CSV file.

2. Beam it over to P800/P900 using plBeam.

3. Import CSV file to Handy Data

In case Handy Data requires a CSV in Unicode, I guess it should be possible to use the Neuon nConvert on the Psion to create a Unicode file, but I have not tried this. And, unfortunately, I do not have a P800 at present either, only the emulator.

Take note that these steps do not require the use of a PC, which I think is essential for people on the road.

Kind regards

Martin Maxwell

Kuala Lumpur - Malaysia

Answer to: Owen

RE: Adding discs to EPOC ER5 emulator

Dear Owen,

In your startup batfile, which typicall is in:

C:\Epoc32\Data\

Add the following line:

_EPOC_DRIVE_M X:\MyFolder\

Change the 'M' to your preferred drive letter. Change 'X' to the disc.

Kind regards

Martin Maxwell

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Date: 25 Mar 2004 08:13:23 -0500

From: vlad a

Subject: OWen's Dud CF card. (Is it contagious?) # 482 (2)

&wrote on 24.3.2004 21:57 Uhr:

> Whatever Vlad says, I think this one really is terminal! :o(

Owen,

give the card to someone with a Mac & CF-Card reader to try and format. If you know noone there, go on land and find a designer's bureau or a copyshop with graphic-design services, they usually have Macs. If nevertheless you want to get rid of it, by all means I'll give you my snailmail :-)

best,

vlad a

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Date: 25 Mar 2004 08:24:00 -0500

From: Ian Chapple

Subject: Re. Rogue Fax accounts

Jack,

>> >>>>Shift-Ctrl-L will show all the mailboxes but not the Fax boxes on my Psion. Are you sure this is the right answer ?<<<<

No I'm sure I was wrong...

I do not know a way to make the fax account to be shown on the left folders list.

But how on earth did you manage to set more than the unique allowed Fax account (some wrong restorings?)?

If a reset does not do, I'm afraid you'll have to rename your index file or even your Mail folder (& then re-set THE Fax account) Tell us back... <<

Sorry, I should have got back to you sooner; no, Shift+Ctrl+L only shows/hides the email folders, not the fax accounts/boxes.

I have no idea how I've ended up with two Fax accounts. They appear to be identical, but are only visible from Tools - Account Settings. It's not a serious problem, it's just weird, particularly as I'm not in the habit of sending faxes anyway. I wondered if on one of the few occasions when I did try to send a fax, it failed, and somehow created a rogue Fax account in the process.

Anyway, if no-one has any bright ideas, I'll just wait until my netbook needs a reinstall of the OS, and see what appens afterwards...

Thanks for your help, cheers, Ian.

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Date: 25 Mar 2004 09:43:50 -0500

From: Rolf Vonau

Subject: Re: RIP 5mx :o(

Reference is made to the mail in the Epoc Digest V1 # 482,

Owen H. Morgan wrote at 23.03 2004 (> ):

> I believe there's a company in Germany who do screen

> cable repairs and memory upgrades, but I seem to

> remember there was some problem with using this

> company from outside Germany?

Hi Owen,

there is a repair company in Leipzig. Just now I made a phone call and they informed me, that they can repair the creen cable in 2 - 3 days. It costs 75 Euro + 19 Euro for transportation in any foreign country.

The address I will tell you by PM, if you are interested.

Best Regards

Rolf

Munich

http://home.arcor.de/rhvonau/index.htm

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Date: 25 Mar 2004 10:20:08 -0500

From: Nicole Carbonara

Subject: WiFi question

To: Ian Chapple

Subject: Re. WiFi question

Ian

Thank you for your help. I tried both: connecting manually and playing with start stop WZCS but nothing cures the instability problem when interferences occur. Fortunately, they do not occur at all times.

Nicole

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Date: 25 Mar 2004 10:36:49 -0500

From: Dave Thomas

Subject: Using Psiiwin with USB to Serial Converter and WinXP Prof

Hi there

We can't seem to get Psiwin 2.3.3 working properly using a Serial to USB convertor on WinXP Prof. It connects but reboots the machine after running the backup for a while. This has happened every time and on a number of different laptop and using different USB to serial adapters. Help would be greatly appreciated

Kind Regards

Dave Thomas

Product Manager

Psionet

Tel +27 21 683 1192

Fax +27 21 683 1196

Web: www.psion.co.za

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Date: 25 Mar 2004 16:41:38 -0500

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: CF card, Broken 5MX, Broadband advice, UPS5D, Rogue Fax accounts,

Answer to: Owen

Re.: CF card - Sorry I can't help you. However, I noticed you wrote a 80 Mb CF card. This must surely be a very old card as today they are not made in that size anymore, right ? Could it be you just hit the end of it's life ?

Re. Broken 5MX - As you use your 5MX mainly on the boat and don't open and close it much anyhow I would certainly try and go for a used S7 or nB / mB. The screen is larger, in colour, great keyboard, usage of a modem card, and many more advantages. And for portabillity when needed you can sync with your Revo. I am sure you'll never look back and enjoy it immensely.

Answer to: Nicole Carbonara

Re.: Broadband advice - Interestingly enough my son has a better signal downstairs in the kitchen than on the first floor in his room, the connection being in the study on the first floor. So much for "better horizontal lines ..."

Answer to: Philip S. Adkins Potter

Re.: UPS5D - Do you also have an index for all the old digests or can you create one ? It might be an idea to add these files to the digest website (without having discussed this with the owner, just an idea of mine).

Answer to: Jack

Re.: Rogue Fax accounts - As I informed you by email as well, It was not me who had this problem. I only reacted to your answer.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 25 Mar 2004 17:31:41 -0500

From: Charles H. Davies

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 482 (8)

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:13:30 -0500, you wrote:

Date: 24 Mar 2004 08:50:00 -0500

From: Steve Litchfield

Subject: re: P800 Data

In answer to Martin Maxwell, although the P800 doesn't have Data

built-in, it's an inexpensive add-on from www.epocware.com . "Handy

Databank" is almost a clone of Data and very usable, with a desktop

converter, IIRC.

____________________________________________________________________

Steve Litchfield, 3-Lib, http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/

For Psion and Symbian handhelds, with computer-based training on CD

Also PocketInfo, useful files - http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/pocketinfo

Journalism: sub-editor and/or senior contributor to:

Palmtop User - http://www.palmtop.co.uk/

PDA Essentials - http://www.paragon.co.uk/mags/pdaessentials.html

PC Basics - http://www.paragon.co.uk/mags/pcbasics.html

Reviews editor, AllAboutSymbian - http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/

Steve,

Please ignore my request for more info, have done what I should have

done in the first place, looked it up on the internet.

Thanks again

Charles Davies

Charles H Davies

23 Wallace Fields

EPSOM Surrey

KT17 3AX

England

Tel:+44 (0)20 8394 0255

Fax:+44 (0)20 8393 2747

***ALWAYS REPLY TO:"chdavies

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Date: 25 Mar 2004 18:17:21 -0500

From: Roman Frotz

Subject: RIP 5mx :o(

Owen,

SRS in Germany does a screencable repair plus RAM upgrade to 24MB for 49 Euros. They state on their website: "All prices include labour and VAT. We send all machines back by C.O.D. We do not send spare parts. All prices are exclusive of postage and packing which is an additional 12.50 Euros incl. VAT." Regarding the used cable they say: "Our LCD cables are NOT original Psion cables. Instead we use cables which do not have the usual recess problems."

You can find the english version of their webpage at:

http://www.srsgmbh.de/en/index1.html

Under the download section there is a pdf document which you need to fill out and send in with your Psion.

You can ask questions under the following phone number: -49-6039-9397-0

Mail: service

My own experience with them was very positive. I did send in my Psion for repair on monday and had him back on friday (I'm livin in Germany). As far as my jugement goes they did a very professional job (some parts of my open/close mechanism where broken because my Psion had accidentally fallen down on the floor). I can' t comment on the longevity of the alternative screen cable because so far I never experienced any problem with it (knockin on wood).