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Epoc Digest Thu, 20 May 2004 Volume 01 : Number 525

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In today's Epoc Digest 10 messages:

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- Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 524

- MacDo | WEP

- Re.: Cisco 342 card - Sorry to ask byt what is "WEP" ?

- Re: Internet Coupons

- Re: Repairs

- Re: Fetty

- NetBook Mount / Pro / Mac / Macro woe no more :-) / Truncation / CF

- Freeserve/Wanadoo truncation problem.

- WiFi in hotels, chopped off Digest,

- Re: Macro woe

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Date: 17 May 2004 07:44:21 +0100

From: Martin Maxwell

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 524

Answer To: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: RE: The Symbian "brand"

>>> While I appreciate your opinion, I can't say that I can confirm it in light of my conversations with a variety of people using mobile phones around me, who will most certainly choose as you said for certian functions and ease of transfering data between the old phone and the new phone they buy, but I can't remember anyone having mentioned Symbian in these discussions. <<<

This is also my observation so I think you're correct. I am not at all saying that you're wrong. The Symbian "brand" is still not strong at the end customer level.

I'm rather adding to your point that this weakness is intentional. And that it is nothing new for Symbian, but rather inherited from EPOC. In fact, most phone retailers do not know what is a Symbian phone and what is not.

The Symbian "brand" is, however, gaining traction among those who deal more frequently with end consumer issues, and ultimately it will do so for the end users themselves. For instance, during the last year there have been a massive increase in activity in forums such as www.allaboutsymbian.com, www.i-symbian.com and new forums are being launched almost every month.

Kind regards

Martin Maxwell

Kuala Lumpur

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Date: 17 May 2004 09:00:30 +0100

From: Antony

Subject: MacDo | WEP

To: Thomas F. Van Der Zijden

MacDo

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Where's the beef? :-D Them Wendys burgers are far superior!

There's nothing wrong with eating food that's considered unhealthy in my opinion. I want a burger that tastes like a beef pattie on a bun with, optionally, salad. McBurgers taste like mayonaisse sandwiches. The salads are a marketing ploy to get rid of the unhealthy image they have aquired.

p.s. I like the shakes and the apple pies though ;-D

To: Itamar Engelsman

WEP

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(W)ireless (E)ncryption (P)rotocol. It is similar to going on to a secure web site, except you must know the 128 bit cipher key in order for the page to view properly. It prevents access to wireless networks for those that do not know the key. As it is a 128 bit encryption, it can be breached using a brute force attack similar to those performed on encrypted or secured documents like zip files or Word Documents (or Windows passwords <g>). If the administrator was especially stupid, it may be breached even quicker with a dictionary attack.

Antony Booth

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Date: 17 May 2004 10:51:49 +0100

From: Fotograf Anders Henriksen

Subject: Re.: Cisco 342 card - Sorry to ask byt what is "WEP" ?

Hello Itamar.

WEP (Short for Wired Equivalent Privacy), a security protocol for wireless local area networks (WLANs) defined in the 802.11b standard. WEP is designed to provide the same level of security as that of a wired LAN.

Read more here: http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/2106281

anders henriksen

norway

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Date: 17 May 2004 11:05:22 +0100

From: Dick Chatjaval

Subject: Re: Internet Coupons

To: Antony

Many thanks for the information. It will come in very handy when I visit the UK.

Best regards,

Dick Chatjaval

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Date: 17 May 2004 14:04:52 +0100

From: Terry Gordon

Subject: Re: Repairs

Gareth J M Saunders: Thanks. Great idea to put it all in one spot.

Backup questions: Aren't you all just reinventing the wheel? Just get Fastbackup. It works great and is free.

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Date: 17 May 2004 15:08:21 +0100

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Re: Fetty

Chris Holly wrote:

> And what, may I ask, is "fetty"?

Maybe it's what comes off on your hands picking flowers from the

fetterbush. :-)

From Random House Unabridged Dictionary

> fet·ter·bush, n.

> 1. an evergreen shrub, Lyonia lucida, of the heath family, native to

> the southern U.S., having clusters of fragrant, white flowers.

> 2. a similar shrub, Pieris floribunda, having long upright clusters

> of small white flowers.

> 3. any of several heathlike shrubs of the southern U.S.

> [1855–60, Amer.; FETTER + BUSH; so called because it impedes

> walkers]

Sorry, folks. I just can't resist these things. :-)

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net

Thought For The Day:

All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.

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Date: 17 May 2004 19:37:42 +0100

From: Andy Hayes

Subject: NetBook Mount / Pro / Mac / Macro woe no more :-) / Truncation / CF

George drew my attention to www.sebpayne.com

For those that haven't been there and are interested in a netBook mount for a car, and a nice looking one at that, go along and have a look at the site. I expressed an interest in the mount and he replied very quickly to say that he was looking into having it manufactured. There is no real competition for professional looking and safe mounts in the EPOC world as far as I am aware. The only alternative being nearly £200. Perhaps we could get a bulk order for the list. It might give him more incentive to hack the price a bit and and would save a fortune on what shipping would cost for gazzillions of individual units?

The review of the netBook Pro on the site was fairly damming. Oh dear ;-)

All is not well in the world of trying to buy a Mac laptop. Dabs seem to have stopped stocking them. MacWarehouse wont ship outside of the UK mainland, or have the courtesy to respond to my email, Cancom haven't returned my call request. I haven't looked closely at Jigsaw as yet, but their site seemed to lack much detail on the spec.. Micro Anvika are horrendously expensive. eBay is starting to look like an option. Crap service is becoming the norm in the UK by the looks of it.

Jack. Thanks for your words of wisdom on the macro. For some inexplicable reason this macro just wont run on my UK nB. Never mind though.

Wolfgang. What a star you are!! The macro runs perfectly. I will do a full backup and test it with CronTab this evening.

Owen. Thanks for your input too. Nice to see you back.

Itamar. The truncated digest problem seems to have gone at the moment. Perhaps you have more influence than you imagine!

My CF has died a death again. I have decided to await the return of the laptop that I lent out and rebuild it as a Win98SE machine for these very circumstances.

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Date: 17 May 2004 22:52:26 +0100

From: Alan Morris

Subject: Freeserve/Wanadoo truncation problem.

Greetings All,

I sent this to Freeserve/Wanadoo after reporting the problem on their web site, and a Steve replied:-

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Greetings Steve,

>> In order for us to investigate this matter further please

>> supply additional information, including your Windows

>> version, and a full description of the problems you're

>> having and any error messages produced.

I am not using Windows. I am using EPOC ER5. This is the very stable OS that Psions use. Others are using various versions of Windows and are having the same problem.

No error messages are produced. As I said in my original message, digest messages from places like Yahoo are being truncated by Freeserve but arrive OK via another ISP on the same computer. Many have noticed this same problem. They all use Freeserve to receive their digests.

I am also a member of the EPOC Digest. This is not on Yahoo, so that implies that the fault is not a Yahoo and Freeserve fault.

The EPOC Digest uses Freeserve to receive messages and to send out the combined messages.

There would appear to be no relationship with file size as some get truncated more than others. I have had to reregister a new identity on Yahoo, usand all digests received since via that ISP have arrived in full.

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Here is their reply:-

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From: Wanadoo Customer Service

Subject: Re: Pay As You Go connection query (KMM4543529V43992L0KM.)

Dear Alan,

Thank you for your email.

If you are having problems with the digest email, can you login to Smartgroups and under the mail delivery options for the group can you select web only then update the changes. Then immediately set it back to digest update the changes once more. This should resolve the problem you were having.

If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in contact with us again.

Kind Regards

Wanadoo Technical Support

REF:WOOTS

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This person has no idea what he's talking about. If you are with Freeserve, and receiving truncated digests, may I suggest to also write to them.

Alan R Morris, G4ENS.

Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, UK.

Using a Psion netBook & Nokia 6210e.

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Date: 18 May 2004 05:40:10 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: WiFi in hotels, chopped off Digest,

Answer to: Thomas F. VAN DER ZIJDEN

Re.: WiFi in hotels - Thanks, but how did you get the connection in the first place, how did you know the website address ?

Answer to: Alan Morris

Re.: chopped off Digest - Checking today again I noticed that the digest that appeared in the mailbox of the digest was ok again, so it could be that the problem has been solved. Any feedback from Freeserve users would be appriciated.

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 19 May 2004 20:29:04 +0100

From: Astrid Stappenbeck

Subject: Re: Macro woe

Hi Andy,

> REM FERME TOUS LES FICHIERS

> Include "Macro.oph"

> PROC Macro:

> BgSystem:

> SendKeyCode:(Ctl%+%q,Shift%+Ctrl%,1)

> FgCurrent:

> ENDP<<<<

> I still get a "procedure not found" error which points to the end of the "BgSystem" line. C'mon guys (and gals) I know that there are some clever macro writers out there. How do I write, or where do I find, a macro that will close all of the running apps with the **exception** of the one that calls it (CronTab). <

Bg and Fg are Macro5 commands. You need to have the Macro5 library installed and launch the macro via an application that supports it, e.g. Macro5, Assistant, etc.

However, this macro closes everything including the app that called it. It makes use of the Close All command from the system screen and comfirms everything. If you want the calling app to remain open you will need something completely different. Something like: look for open apps, if it is not X close it. No idea how that would look in OPL...

But why do you need it? The only thing I can think of is for a backup and some if not all backup-programs close any open apps when they are running.