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Epoc Digest Sat, 29 May 2004 Volume 01 : Number 529

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In today's Epoc Digest 25 messages:

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- JBStopnGO

- eTrex question

- Blasted Screen

- Restore to New Mako

- Re: Pdf+

- RE: Netbook won't work with wireless card

- Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 528 (10)

- Re: Netbook won't work with wireless card

- Re: PDF+

- Re. Netbook won't work with wireless card

- PDF+

- Re: Backups

- Re: Backup with low battery

- Re: Mbooks turning on by themselves

- Backups/IP Update/WiFi/

- Fonts

- # 528 re: PDF+

- Fwd: Stiil freezing on e mail!

- Macro5... It's Alive!

- Back-up & Crontab, PDF+,

- Backup and Butler

- Re: Psion 7 Stuck!

- Re: screen cable repair

- Re: PDF+

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Date: 26 May 2004 23:00:23 +0100

From: Walker, Jan

Subject: JBStopnGO

Itamar's suggestion to use "the little program JBStopGo" is a sound one; although I am not sure if it is compatible with a macro for unattended use. I have used it for 5 or so years and I love it for automatic activation of the "Ctrl L" command (Remote link using Cable at 115200 baud rate) and the backup and reopening of whatever programs were running at the time JBStopGo is tapped in the Extras bar.

Jan in Silicon Valley

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Date: 26 May 2004 23:16:40 +0100

From: vlad a

Subject: eTrex question

> Mr NO Spam wrote on 27.5.2004 1:44 Uhr:

> Do the Etrex models have this many pages?

eTrex has the following pages (topmost) and functions (afaIr): - Stattelite (2 modi of skywiew and status)

- Map (breadcrumb trail w. zoom, trackback, N-pointer, etc.)

- Pointer (showing speed(average), location, direction, altitude, sunrise/sunset at location, go-to distance to waypoint, etc.)

- Menu (mark, waypoints, route, tracks, setup, battery status and date/time)

Hope this helps. If you need more detail I'll have to look them up in the small handbook.

best,

vlad a

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Date: 27 May 2004 01:03:17 +0100

From: Melvin Woody

Subject: Blasted Screen

A week or two ago, I absent mindedly left a package of frozen chinese noodles on top of my Diamon Mako on the seat of the car. When I next opened the Mako there was a big blue black ink blot with bright green, orange and blue haloes around it taking up most of the left half of the screen. If I type in the password, I can see a few appropriate lines on the unobscured part of the screen, but that's it -- not enough to set the machine to back itself up to my PC so that I can restore to another Mako that I bought in case of disaster. The computer part of the Mako seems to be fine. It sets off alarms at appropriate moments to remind me to get up, to leave for dental appointments, etc. Is it feasible to try to get a new top half of the Mako in the U.S. or Canada? How much is it likely to cost? (Does anyone have a good top half on a bad bottom that they want to sell?) I've another question about restoring to my other Mako, but I'll write another message about that after a bit more experimentation.

I'll be grateful for any advice.

MelvinWoody

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Date: 27 May 2004 01:36:57 +0100

From: Melvin Woody

Subject: Restore to New Mako

As explained elsewhere, the screen of my trusty Diamond Mako has gone

kaput. I need to restore the files from that machine to a new Mako that I had in reserve. Unfortunately, since the last backup, I have installed a new, larger hard drive because I ran out of space on the old one. The old drive is still in the machine and all the data and non-ap files are still there, though I've copied many to the new drive. But when I try to run Restore from either of those drives, I get a message that there are no backup files in whatever directory I try to open from, though I daresay I've not tried them all. (I'm trying to restore to my third machine, so there are two machines listed in my Epoc directory.

Does anyone know what file I should be looking for? i.e., What's the name of the file from which the restoration should take place?

Melvin Wood

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Date: 27 May 2004 01:45:50 +0100

From: Keith Giles

Subject: Re: Pdf+

Moshe Nahir wrote:

> I have a (registered) pdf+ on my 5mx, yet I can't open pdf files. Am > I not doing something I should? Thanks much for any ideas.

Could you be more specific? What are you doing? Just what happens? Is it a real pdf file (it opens in Acrobat on your PC)? Does the file have a Pdf+ icon on your System screen? Maybe with more information someone can help.

Happy Cycling,

Keith

Sunnyvale, CA

http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net

Thought For The Day:

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Date: 27 May 2004 02:19:48 +0100

From: Bob

Subject: RE: Netbook won't work with wireless card

Hi Phillip,

I have the same problem. I have some wonderful help from folks on this digest and in particular from Ian Chapple. He has hand held me from the beginning when I had a Cisco card also and I had the same result as you have. I then went to the Buffalo card, which is one of the most recommended for use in the Netbook. I have done all the things that Ian said and a person named "J" who was also very helpful. I have the same result with the Buffalo card. I get the power light and once in awhile a slight flicker on the active light. I can ping within the Netbook but can't ping outside to my router or anyplace else. I know it is suppose to work, so it might just be some small thing, but as far as I can tell I have it set like all the great help has told me. As far as I know you don't touch anything except the ethernet settings. I have tried DHCP and Manual. I am using the US buld 158, so it has the latest verion OS. I have evev tried switching off the WEP on the router and Netbook. Just not sure where else to go. Any other ideas please.

Thanks,

Bob

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Date: 27 May 2004 06:53:59 +0100

From: George Cooke

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 528 (10)

> Date: 26 May 2004 16:31:45 +0100

> From: Philip Crookes > Subject: Netbook won't work with wireless card

Is it worth configuring your access point with the MAC address of the card in the Netbook?

Someone suggested this to me recently (IIRC in the Psionplace.com forum) and I have known this solve problems in the past.

The MAC address usually gets entered via a web browser through the computer that configured the AP/router originally - and allows you to be specific about which cards are recognised.

The MAC address should be printed on the Cisco card somewhere.

HTH

George

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Date: 27 May 2004 07:00:08 +0100

From: George Cooke

Subject: Re: Epoc Digest V1 # 528 (10)

> For Moshe Nahir

> Subject: PDF+

Sorry everyone was at the beach!

Can you redescribe what happens exactly - error messages if any please?

I had a PDF/ PDF+ problem and managed to solve it after a bit of trial and error.

I presume you have tried re-installling etc?

Some PDFs are too advanced for PDF+.

Have you tried some different PDFs - just in case the originals were corrupted?

George

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Date: 27 May 2004 07:12:01 +0100

From: Marcus von Cube

Subject: Re: Netbook won't work with wireless card

Philip,

you should try to install the card in a different device, e. g. your laptop, and configure it with the PC drivers. If it works in this environment, the card is ok; if not, you probably have a broken card.

Do you run encryption on your network or did you lock out any MAC addresses in your access point

for security reasons?

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 27 May 2004 07:25:06 +0100

From: Marcus von Cube

Subject: Re: PDF+

Moshe,

>I have a (registered) pdf+ on my 5mx, yet I can't open pdf files

What do you exactly mean with "can't open"?

- If you start the application from Extras, can you then select a PDF from the File->Open menu?

- Do *.pdf files have the PDF+ icon (looks like a newspaper)?

- Is the application crashing in any way?

I have version 1.03 which works fine, exept for a few glitches on some files.

I just checked the \System\RECOGS folder and found two files (recpdffile.rdl, recpdf.mdl). They are obviously responsible for identifying PDF files in the system screen. Did they get installed on your machine? Or do you probably have an older version of these files in the wrong location (check all drives!)?

Marcus

http://www.mvcsys.de

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Date: 27 May 2004 07:58:36 +0100

From: Ian Chapple

Subject: Re. Netbook won't work with wireless card

Philip,

>>I have the Netbook with the latest OS, I have the Cisco wireless card, I have done everything I think I should do - and it resolutely refuses to find our wifi network.

Our VAIO laptop happily finds the wireless network without a problem - the most the Psion will do is flash the green LED Cisco card for a couple of minutes and then report that it could not connect.

I've tried entering the SSID exactly as it appears on my access point - and also as ANY, which works for various other computers we've had here.

What next can I do?<<

The SSID (using a Buffalo card, this is called WaveLAN, I guess this is the same for a Cisco card) should be identical to the SSID defined in the router. Do you have WEP enabled on your router? If so, you will have to

set up WEP correctly on your netbook; an umatched WEP key normally causes the netbook to get stuck with a "Logging on to Internet sevice" message. I have just checked on the Internet, and it seems that the Cisco Aironet 340 does not support WEP. If this is indeed the case, and this is the card

that you have, then you have a serious problem; you will either have to disable WEP on your router (not recommended) or buy a new WiFi card for your netbook (the Buffalo one is excellent, and is not very expensive).

Hope this helps, Ian.

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Date: 27 May 2004 10:17:35 +0100

From: Phil Aypee

Subject: PDF+

Hi Folks,

Moshe, if the problem is with all PDF files then there is a Psion problem. Try reinstalling PDF+. If that doean't work, panic (or ask again!).

If the problem is with just some PDF files then

a) the files themselves might be corrupted or

b) the files might be for a newer version of Adobe's PDF Reader the PDF+ doesn't support.

Happy days,

Phil.

"People in fields at Chipping Norton,

How will they know the time of day

Should the Twelve Twenty cease to run

Eight minutes late down Didcot way?

And oh! the anguish at the deep heart's core,

The milk train doesn't stop here anymore!"

http://www.aypee2.net

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Date: 27 May 2004 10:20:29 +0100

From: Chris S Handley

Subject: Re: Backups

Hello Andy,

I think you are right that closing all the programs before running the different backup programs will fix your problem, although it is a bit of a kludge.

Alternatively, doing all the backups within one program should also fix your problem.

But it should be stated that whatever solution you use (inc. Backup by Ralph Sprenger), you will likely still have the problem that your Psion switches off BEFORE all the apps have finished starting-up. The reason for this is that (AFAIK) there is no way for a program to know if another one has finished starting-up, and therefore no way to avoid switching off the machine before all the apps have finished starteding-up.

The only solution would be to keep the machine awake (or wake it up later), and keep it awake for a period of time which you found enough to allow all the apps to finsih starting. Either you put a PAUSE 100 at the end of the last macro you use (if possible), or otherwise you run this macro later:

PROC main:

PAUSE 100

ENDPROC

The value 100 means 5 seconds (i.e. 20 means 1 second).

> Garmin Etrex (Camo). A question for you Garmin Etrex owners.

> My Garmin has a number of main screens, those at the highest

> level of the tree. They include: -

I assume that your Garmin is NOT an Etrex then? This got me confused for a while.

> Satellite page - a graphical representation of the satellites

> in the sky as well as a bar graph indicating signal strengths

yup.

> Position page - including electronic compass strip, track,

> speed, trip, position, altitude and time

yup.

> Map page - waypoints shown graphically and a breadcrumb trail

yup. Note that you can only have the map orientated North or the direction of travel - which I can find annoying, and I understand some more expensive Garmins allow artrary orientation.

> Navigation page - including electronic compass (or graphic of

> a road), bearing, distance, track and speed

yup. Except not sure about "graphic of a road".

> Menu page - access to menus to the sub-pages in the tree

No idea what you are going on about here!

> Do the Etrex models have this many pages? I am particularly

> interested in the camo model, but would like to hear from

> other Etrex owners too. I have looked at the Garmin site but

> the coverage of this model doesn't seem to be brilliant, or

> perhaps it is brilliant and the model has a low spec'.

I understand that the Etrex models are aimed at beginners, and therefore don't have lots of super complex stuff that tech-heads can fiddle with, nor do they have the ability to store road maps downloaded from a computer, but otherwise they are fully functional.

Personally I am very happy with my Etrex, including battery life (at least in battery saveing mode). Actually, I was amazed at how much it did when I first bought it! The only thing really missing is a free program for storing and retrieving waypoints on the Psion.

BTW, you can download the (PDF) user manual for the Etrex from Garmin's site. It is quite small, and should tell you exactly what an Etrex can do.

Regards,

Chris Handley

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Date: 27 May 2004 17:17:29 +0100

From: Armin Podtschaske

Subject: Re: Backup with low battery

Hi Chris,

> Ouch! Could be your battery was low when it tried to write to disk

Ouch! Could it be, that your (otherwise really good) program doesn't check the voltage before beginning the backup?

How about an option for that? You could preset it depending on the machine type.

Regards,

Armin Podtschaske

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Date: 27 May 2004 17:51:28 +0100

From: Terry Gordon

Subject: Re: Mbooks turning on by themselves

Itamar,

Your problem of your Mbook turning itself back on has caught up to me. I notice that it happens pretty regularly when I have used the Mbook as an alarm clock and I hit the Clear button in Time/Date, quit the application, and use Fn + Esc, in rapid order, to turn off the Mbook. I'm now trying to figure out if I give it more time to quit something internally whether it might not turn itself on. Very strange. I'm only using the Fn + Esc to turn it off. TG

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Date: 27 May 2004 20:17:49 +0100

From: Andy Hayes

Subject: Backups/IP Update/WiFi/

Itamar. JBStopGo would not work in this case as it would shut down CronTab, the app that I need to start off the unattended backups!

Jack. I did try Backup, but I had a problem with it. Was it that it wouldn't back up individual files? It didn't fit my needs at the time and there appeared to be better alternatives. Perhaps if Backup was crippled in some way, it was this that stopped me achieving what I was trying.

Tony. Are you using the correct version of the IP update? Just try using Sink2. It works for me.

Philip. Is the IP of the netbook static? Is it in the correct range? Have you tried pinging the netBook from the laptop when the green light is flashiing on the Cisco card? Which Cisco card is it. What OS are you using.

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Date: 27 May 2004 20:53:09 +0100

From: Moshe Nahir

Subject: Fonts

To Itamar,

>Some time ago i downloaded the Fontloader program and use now besides the standard fonts also ArialNarrow, Bungalo and Comic Sans. Has anyone got other fonts file you can send me,..

Unfortunately I cannot be of help. But I wonder if you could let us know where you got the Fontloader program. I for one would like to have a few more fonts as options.

Thanks

Moshe

Winnipeg, Canada

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Date: 27 May 2004 21:48:22 +0100

From: Kate Head

Subject: # 528 re: PDF+

>>Date: 26 May 2004 20:18:40 +0100

>>From: Moshe Nahir >>Subject: PDF+

>>Hi All,

>>A while ago I asked about pdf+ but, probably because everybody was rushing to the beach to get their sun-fix, I had no respone. So here >>goes again, perhaps I'll have better luck:

>>I have a (registered) pdf+ on my 5mx, yet I can't open pdf files. Am I not doing something I should? Thanks much for any ideas.

>>Moshe

>>Winnipeg, Canada

Hi there Moshe,

I've given up trying to go into Pdf+ via tapping the files on my netBook (which appear with "?", and "cannot find program" when tapped), and I now open Pdf+ via the Extras bar and then do File and Open file... which seems to work.

All the best,

Kate!!

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Date: 27 May 2004 22:57:03 +0100

From: jafnapier

Subject: Fwd: Stiil freezing on e mail!

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Subject: Stiil freezing on e mail!

Author: napier

Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:35:07 +0000

Can anyone help? I have tried installing the TCP/IP update file, but I get the message " install coms component TCP/IP & try again. I have version 158 on a netbook. What does this mean and what do I have to do?

Tony

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Date: 28 May 2004 00:19:03 +0100

From: Martin Guthrie

Subject: Macro5... It's Alive!

Dear Digestees,

I'm delighted to be able to announce that Pascal Nicolas has joined the FreEPOC team (in a background/advisory role) and that we'll be developing some of his programs further in the coming weeks and months. The first and best-known of these of course is Macro5 and I've upgraded it to better support the ER5 colour machines (netBook, Series 7, netPad, etc.). Revo support will follow soon and, well, for further details see the FreEPOC web site (www.freepoc.org)...! :¬)

Best regards,

Martin Guthrie

—————————

www.pscience5.net

www.freepoc.org

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Date: 28 May 2004 01:40:52 +0100

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Back-up & Crontab, PDF+,

Answer to: No SPam (what is yr real name ?)

Re.: Back-up & Crontab - Did you consider that it might be a problem of Crontab ? I use Crontab amongst others to give me an alarm every day at 4.45 pm to remind me of something and open the jotter every day at 10.00 am and 3.00 pm. Now, on days that I don't use the Psion and the alarm goes off and the next day the jotter opens as well the Psion gets confused and stalls. When I switch on, I have to kill the jotter manually and than the alarm suddenly goes off again. When I switch off the alarm the Psion closes and I have to switch it on again when I get the system screen to log in again. Ah, and it uses all the battery power as well and I am left with a Psion without power. Unless I use the Psion daily, I will have to switch off Crontab.

Answer to: Moshe Nahir

Re. PDF+ - Maybe you try first to use the PDF program (without the +) which is free to see if that one will work ? What error message(s) do you get when you try to open a file ?

Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK

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Date: 28 May 2004 11:32:38 +0100

From: Armin Podtschaske

Subject: Backup and Butler

Hi Mr NO Spam,

> I am awoken by my butler, Jeeves, who hands me the Psion, [...]

> Switching on the Psion I get the white screen and [...] wait [...]

Why don't you let yor butler just switch your Psion on some five minutes before waking you?

Psee you,

Armin Podtschaske

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Date: 28 May 2004 11:53:16 +0100

From: Korbinian Demmel

Subject: Re: Psion 7 Stuck!

Hi robertson

> Here's a new one! I have a psion 7, in full

> working order bar the fact that at switch on all I

> get is the psion series 7 Logo, with EPOC Release

> 5 Copyright and patents pending screen.

> A hard reset does not solve the problem.

If you had really done a hard reset, and this Serie7 is a RAM only design (like the 5mxPro), it could not happen that the Epoc Release screen appears.

Provided that you haven't inserted a cf-card with the ROM image.

I only own a 5mxPro but after a hardreset, with no cf-card installed, you can hear a sequence of three beeps and then see the order to insert a cf-card containing the ROM image.

> Nor does resetting the machine with a CF card

> (with OS.img file)

With a Serie5 this file is named 'SYS$ROM.BIN'.

Or did I misunderstand you?

If you see the Epoc screen after a reset with no cf-card inserted, you definitely didn't perfome a hard reset.

The secure way to do a hard reset is, of course, to put out all batteries (in a case of Serie7 only the main batterie), plug off the power supply and wait a few minutes. I heard of some Epoc devices, which only could persuaded to work again with this cruel method.

regards

Korbinian

(germany)

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Date: 28 May 2004 11:53:19 +0100

From: Korbinian Demmel

Subject: Re: screen cable repair

Hi Anthony and Owen,

> You should use the improved screen

> cable which I believe is manufactured in Germany.

On May, 10th this URL was mentioned in the german list:

www.ka-flex.de

> The job is slightly more difficult on the newer

> machines, and you need to be particularly careful

> that you do not crack the touch sensitive layer

> when you dismantle the screen assembly.

Oh yes!! :(

I also want to say, it has not always to be the worst case! Perhaps only the cable has gone out off the plug. I had similar "displaycable" problems with my mxPro and after dis- and reassembling everthing works fine till now.

> and I have a new kitten. At the moment

> she's going crazy galloping around the boat

> attacking things (including me).

I don't know but probably if I would do the same beeing a cat captured at a boat on the water :)

regards

Korbinian

(germany)

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Date: 28 May 2004 11:53:30 +0100

From: Korbinian Demmel

Subject: Re: PDF+

Hi Moshe

> I have a (registered) pdf+ on my 5mx, yet I can't

> open pdf files. Am I not doing something I should?

> Thanks much for any ideas.

Has the pdf-file the right pdf+ icon or only a the questionmark-icon.

I could imagine, if you have installed pdf+ on an cf-caard (or any other external device) and you reboot Epoc, you have to remove and reinsert the cf-card to make Epoc recognize the files correctly.

If have this problem with Opera and the inbuild Browser. After reboot, all html-files are recognized by Web instead of Opera. After doing the procedure described above, everything is alright again.