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Epoc Digest      Sun, 04 Jul 2004     Volume 01 : Number 554

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Sent to:  758 subscribers


In today's Epoc Digest 13 messages:

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- Re: Sorting on Sheet

- Re: Sorting on Sheet (longer)

- TomTom CityMaps .sis # 553

- Free Psion Happy  Sherlock Holmes MP3's - Mother's Day

- Typos

- Email setup

- RE: TomTom Maps

- Re: Sorting on Sheet

- elongating keyboard

- Extracting and sorting agenda information, Holiday power,

- knowledge base, Moonclock woes, Sorting on Sheet, Navigator in car&

CoDriver, E

- Re: # 530 [Backup with low battery] [Jeeves has difficulty with technology]

- Re: RoutePlanner (# 540)


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Date:  2 Jul 2004 12:13:20 +0700

From: Jack

Subject: Re: Sorting on Sheet


To: Manuel Campos Galvan

Sorting on Sheet

>>>>>.... For example the entries are:

...... 29/06/2004 Airfare $200

24/06/2004 Taxi $23

What I would like is ...... something like this:

...... 24/06/2004 Taxi $23

29/06/2004 Airfare $200....<<<<<

Re:

Shift+Ctl+O

Jack


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Date:  2 Jul 2004 12:20:00 +0700

From: Jack

Subject: Re: Sorting on Sheet (longer)



To: Manuel Campos Galvan

Sorting on Sheet

>>>>>.... For example the entries are:

...... 29/06/2004 Airfare $200

24/06/2004 Taxi $23

What I would like is ...... something like this:

...... 24/06/2004 Taxi $23

29/06/2004 Airfare $200....<<<<<

Re:

Shift+Ctl+O

Jack

PS from the Epoc Help file (Fn+?  "sort")

quote follows:

Sorting (Sheet)

You can sort the information in rows and columns in ascending or descending

order. You can specify the sort order for up to three rows or columns at a

time.

To sort rows:

1. Highlight the rows which you want to sort.

2. Select Sort|Left-to-right from the Tools menu.

3. Specify the first row you want to sort on the 1st row line, and the

order in which you want to sort it.

4. To sort more than one row, select the row on the 2nd row and then the

3rd row lines, and select the order in which you want to sort.

Note: If you want to make the sort order case sensitive for one or more

rows, tap the Options button and tick the box beside the row.

To sort columns:

1. Highlight the columns which you want to sort.

2. Select Sort|Top-to-bottom from the Tools menu.

3. Select the first column you want to sort on the 1st column line, and the

order in which you want to sort it.

4. To sort more than one column, select the column on the 2nd column and

3rd column lines, and then select the order in which you want to sort.

Note: If you want to make the sort order case sensitive for one or more

columns, tap the Options button and tick the box beside the column.


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Date:  2 Jul 2004 12:46:46 +0700

From: vlad a

Subject: TomTom CityMaps .sis # 553


> Itamar Engelsman wrote on 2.7.2004 14:25 Uhr:


> (as the program we cannot use on our Psions) ?


I thought CityMaps (in fact an update of Street to version 3.?) is also

Psion-compatible... ?


best,


vlad


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Date:  2 Jul 2004 12:49:29 +0700

From: Will Green

Subject: Free Psion Happy  Sherlock Holmes MP3's - Mother's Day


Dear Sherlockian Psion Fans,


If you visit www.sherlock-holmes.org.uk and go to the Radio Broadcasts

section, there are over 200 free mp3 downloads of the adventures.


Even better is they all seem to play on my 5mx with no editing! I would

recommend the BBC feature length Sherlock Holmes v Dracula from 1981.



Also many thanks to Greg Monney for helping to solve my Mother Macro

problem - it really works well  now - I am not a number, I'm a free man!



Cheers,


No. 6


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Date:  2 Jul 2004 20:08:52 +0700

From: Phil Aypee

Subject: Typos


Hi Folks,


When Euan quoted Steve's faux pas,

  : • )

it might have been better if he hadn't re'laze'd the trail - or was that

another typo!?


But it does, in an extremely good-natured way, show that we can all make

such silly mistakes. Certainly I have made many.


Apparently it's good nettiquette to ignore such mistakes unless there is

good reason not to. It doesn't apply in this case, that I realise, but I do

know that elsewhere such criticism has caused offence, even when meant kindly.


Happy days,

Phil.


"I know you believe you understand what you thought

I said but I'm not sure you realise that what you heard

was not what I meant."


http://www.aypee2.net


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Date:  2 Jul 2004 20:52:55 +0700

From: Neil Thompson

Subject: Email setup




Have been setting up my Revo to collect email and notice that there seems

to be way to set separate login details for the SMTP server. I guess that

this is because it uses the POP3 details correct? If so that's no use to me

as my SMTP and POP3 servers are different and have different credentials.


Anyone know if it is possible to have different login details for POP3 and

SMTP?


Thanks


Neil

www.neilthompson.co.uk/psion


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Date:  3 Jul 2004 02:37:33 +0700

From: Bob

Subject: RE: TomTom Maps


I have many of the products from before the company was called TomTom.  I

have Enroute 1.0 currently on my Series 5mx, my Netbook and my 7Book.  I

have a Update file that gives all the updates for the Programs that I have,

and some have no updates and some do.  I at one time had Route Planner

Millennium and have misplaced it along the way.  It was one of those

download things, so I don't have the CD for it, if there was one.  At least

with the CD you can always keep installing it if you need to.  Anyway, the

Update program said to go to TomTom for the 2.13 update of Route

Planner---well if you look on TomTom there is no Psion/EPOC Stuff any more.

Does anyone know where to get those old programs????


Also, its interesting about how Psion got its name.  I read somewhere years

ago that it was Potters Scientific Invention or nothing, I thought---but

the "instruments" might be right, as they talked to Mr. Potter himself.

Interesting stuff.


Thanks,

Bob


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Date:  3 Jul 2004 16:34:33 +0700

From: Korbinian Demmel

Subject: Re: Sorting on Sheet


Hi Manuel


> ...therefore I would

> like to ask if there is a function in Sheet that

> will allow you to sort by date.


Providing you don't use a Serie5 classic (i.e no R3 machine) you can simply

use the sort-function of sheet ('extras/sort/top to bottom' ?).

Alphabetic sort will work as well with dates because all dates are treated

internal as a  number of days since any special date.

(In your case: 38162 and 37703)


The Epoc R3 Sheet version sadly doesn't provide a sort function as far as I

know.

But I'm sure there will be some tool (perhaps a macro) which fullfill this

job.


regards

Korbinian

(germany)


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Date:  3 Jul 2004 21:50:40 +0700

From: Trygve Henriksen

Subject: elongating keyboard


Greetings!


Jakfish wrote:


> P.S.  Am I hallucinating, or was there an early Psion model that had a

> butterfly keyboard?  A clamshell that when you lifted the lid, the

> keyboard elongated.  I remember it costing a fortune at the U.S.

> Radioshack chain.


You're hallucinating...

(But can I have a taste of what you had? :-)


The only machine I know of which had anything like that design was an IBM

Thinkpad. The one in my collection is a 701CS model, which is an old i486

system.

And that time IBM PC's used to cost an arm and a leg.

And yes, IBM called their design for a 'butterfly keyboard' :-)


Contrary to popular belief, the keyboard on that machine is quite sturdy.

(It's a VERY solid machine)

The reason they used that keyboard back then was that it allowed them to

shrink the machine's width by 2" as it no longer was the keyboard, but the

screen, which decided the size of the machine.

(the 15" LCD panels we have today was unheard of back then and a 12" was

pure luxury)


:-)

Trygve

Currently on vacation...


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Date:  3 Jul 2004 23:07:54 +0700

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: Extracting and sorting agenda information, Holiday power,


Answer to: Bob Hancock


Re.: Extracting and sorting agenda information - I still think it would be

much easier to enter the information in a spreadsheet, probably a sheet for

each client or job, and work per client from such a sheet. You can enter

the starting time and finish tim in two columns with the sheet

automatically calculating the time spent. If your price per hour is set,

another column will than automatically give you the price for that time

spent. In the end you just add up what you want to charge them and that is

all. What is the advantage of linking it to the Agenda file ?


Answer to: Cathy Roberts


Re.: Holiday power - All you have to do is buy an adaptor to the standard

European sockets. These will work in all of Western Europe. [I travel

frequently to Holland, Belgium, France, Germany and sometimes to

Switserland as well. ]



Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK


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Date:  3 Jul 2004 23:07:55 +0700

From: Itamar Engelsman

Subject: knowledge base, Moonclock woes, Sorting on Sheet, Navigator in

car& CoDriver, E


Answer to: Martin Guthrie


Re.: knowledge base - And post the website address in the digest after you

have done it please ?  Thanks


Answer to: Moshe Nahir


Re.: Moonclock woes - Strange, I installed it on my mBook and have/had no

problems at all. Could it be you used the incorrect .SIS file ?  When you

open the zip file, there are two .SIS files, one for the 5MX and one for

the S7/nB/mB. I believe the top one is for the netbook and the bottom one

for the 5MX. If you expand the field you will find the descriptions. Using

the incorrect program could maybe have caused your problem ?


Answer to: Manuel Campos Galvan


Re.: Sorting on Sheet - The answer is rather simple, Menu -> Tools -> Sort.

On older Psions (I believe the S5) this option does not exist (working from

memory here !) but there were third party macros that did the job, look at

the Macro5 or other websites with Macros.


Answer to: Alan Morris


Re.: Navigator in car & CoDriver - Yes, I was looking to add the voice

instructions. However, the 2610 has been replaced by the 2620 and costs

around 1,000.- pounds in the UK. That is slightly over my budget <G>. I

tried to set up CoDriver and succeeded quite well. I got it working with

Streetplanner and now started to look at Routeplanner. Unfortunately the

functionality between the 2 is not good due to the inabillity of

Routeplanner to give "left" and "right" instructions, prefering instead to

give "go to" or "go on". Following a map you can see whether it is right or

left, but without the map it gets very hard.     Apparently it works a lot

better with a route from PC software, but I don't have any. Could someone

create for me a route description in the UK and print it to a text file as

per the following details :


"The Manual method of importing a routefile doesn't use the clipboard as an

intermediary. Instead, you will need to save the route data to a plain text

file on the PC, with tabs between the columns (perhaps best done by pasting

the data into Notepad, then saving this file). Copy the file to the Psion

and choose the "Import from plain text file" option."


This will enable me to assess CoDriver with such a route. Thanks in advance.


Best regards,

Itamar Engelsman

London, UK


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Date:  4 Jul 2004 09:55:29 +0700

From: Armin Podtschaske

Subject: Re: # 530 [Backup with low battery] [Jeeves has difficulty with

technology]


Re: Backup with low battery

Hi Chris,


> FastBackup *does* check the battery level [...].

> However [...] I do not know what battery level below which disk

corruption can occur


Which levels do you actually use?

How about making them user-adjustable?


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Re: Jeeves

Hi Andy,


>Armin. Jeeves has difficulty with technology - unlike his master of course!


Of course his master has already considered configurating his Psion to

switch on at opening it. ;-)

Oh wait, I have an even better Idea:

Let the Psion open at night on it's silver plate, and install an arrow

pointing to the ON-key at the left side of the screen with the words "Press

here once - 5 minutes before waking the master!" on it.

Isn't that a brilliant idea? ;-)


Regards,


Armin Podtschaske


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Date:  4 Jul 2004 09:55:35 +0700

From: Armin Podtschaske

Subject: Re: RoutePlanner (# 540)


Hi Nils,


> I have a spare [5mx], and have been able to restore all my data

> [...] my copy of Tom Tom's Route-planner calls for a re-installing

> I know there is a file that contains the info needed to migrate

> from one machine to another, but I can't find the specs for it.


The file is EnRoute.App in the \System\Apps\EnRoute - folder.

To migrate the program to another machine, you need a copy of it in the

state fresh after installing. At the first start, all Palmtop/TomTom

programs change the *.app file so that it can only be started on that machine.

You need to find someone who can send you an "unused" EnRoute.App (326172

Byte).

I'm sure someone will contact you offlist ;-).

To prevent you and others from this situation: immediately after

installation make a copy of EnRoute.App and keep it (e.g. as

EnRoute.App.original in the application's folder) somewhere. If the program

requests reinstallation, just delete EnRoute.App, make a copy of

EnRoute.App.original, rename that to EnRoute.App and off you go.


Psee you,


Armin Podtschaske,

Munich, Germany


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