- Phoneman with a Nokia 3310, content of the Digest, Nokia 7710, Nokia 9500,

- Agenda, nConvert again

- Re: p910, Nokia 9300, Sony Clie

- Re: PdbRead (HebRead)

- Re: Overlays

- Overlays

- Opera on the Netbook

Date: 1 Dec 2004 13:59:00 +0700
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Phoneman with a Nokia 3310, content of the Digest, Nokia 7710,
Nokia 9500,

Answer to: Phil Vervliet

Re.: Phoneman with a Nokia 3310 - I am afraid I have bad news for you. Your phone does not have an IR (infrared) port and Phoneman is programmed to
work via the IR port of the Psion only. You cannot connect with Phoneman to the Nokia 3310 via a cable (AFAIK).

Answer to: Franco Cozzani

Re.: content of the Digest - Some time ago there has been a long discussion about censorship in the digest and the general consensus was _not_ to
censor at all. We will continue to keep to this unless it concerns personal attacks that go beyond reasonable acceptable guidelines. Having said that,
this is a EPOC/Symbian digest and in general the contents should reflect
that. We think it does so very well.
Re. Nokia 7710 - Of course with a keyboard it is a different matter
concerning the PDA, not concerning the phone part. For a more extensive explanation of the various Symbian platform Steve Lichfield wrote an
article about it which we published some time ago in th edigest, but which
you can find also on his website http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk, look under "Training" where you will find "Introduction to Symbian". His website is
anyhow a good reference for many EPOC / Symbian matters.

[By the way, my name is Itamar in this digest, not Mr. Engelsman]

Answer to: Ashley Burrows

Re.: Nokia 9500 - We look forward to hearing much more about your Nokia 9500 !!

Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK

Date: 1 Dec 2004 21:06:14 +0700
From: Kevin Thorne <address truncated>
Subject: Agenda, nConvert again

Jack wrote:

<To: Anthony Lough
who...
<<<wish to stick a week view
print on the fridge ........
and...
produce a printout larger than 11*16cms<<<<

Re
ct+p
ct+p
to "general"
via "file"
PRINT
Then in the resulting txt file:
enlarge to your need the font size via:
editor:menu:format:font and page setup via printing:page setup... Tell us
now what your fridge door shows>

Jack, I'm not sure this would be a solution to Anthony's problem as I think
he is taking screenshot printouts to maintain the look and spaces of a
paper calendar (into which he can pencil in additional information within
the spaces later) - what you are suggesting is merely a printed list from a created text file and indeed with that you can easily enlarge the font,
just as you had decribed above.  I also take screenshot printouts of my
Agenda "week view" but have no idea how to produce a larger printout on a screenshot but I'm sure someone else on here will probably know!

Also, my thanks to Itamar and Will Green on suggestions to solve my
nConvert conversion problem but neither renaming the file with an .RTF extension before converting it or deleting the .INI file before conversion works - I still get the "not found" dialog box.  Any other ideas?

Regards
Kevin Thorne

Date: 1 Dec 2004 21:55:10 +0700
From: Mike Dyer <address truncated>
Subject: Re: p910, Nokia 9300, Sony Clie

Hi all,

personally I welcome any feedback on any pda via this digest and will
continue to contribute anything that I hope will be of potential use to
others until forceably stopped ;)

if a bluetooth 'vibrate' adaptor exists that will work with the Nokia 9300 then of course I would consider it.

Itamar, you don't need message storer but I do!. The p800 has no way of setting custom email folders unlike your p910. Symbianwares 'message
storer' lets the p800/p900 owner export any email or text message as a .txt file, anywhere on the phone or memory card for tidy storage or future export.

Regards,
Mike Dyer.

Date: 1 Dec 2004 22:00:33 +0700
From: Rolf Brunsting <address truncated>
Subject: Re: PdbRead (HebRead)

Dear Itamar,

<< Is there amongst the subscribers of this digest a programmer who would
be willing to receive the files and have a look at what would need to be
done to convert this program to Symbian and whether it would be a huge job
or only a little one ? >>

I think it's a bigger job than you imagine it to be, even without looking
at the source code, as what the application does is:
a) Reading the .PDB file and decoding its contents,
b) Putting the resulting text on screen,
and,
c) Allowing the reader to navigate through the text.
As .PDB files are a known entity it's not to be expected that the section
of the program that reads these files needs to be heavily modified. What
will be different is the decoding and putting the resulting text on screen. Psions don't support the the display of Hebrew characters as a standard function. And, if I remember correctly, Hebrew is written from right to
left. Something that's not a standard feature as well. Meaning that Dr.
McKee had to develop his own text handling and display routines as well as
one or more Hebrew display fonts to circumvent the Psions' ASCII
limitations. I'm afraid that doing things the 'McKee way' will no longer
work. Symbian OS is based on Unicode rather than ASCII. While Unicode can handle all the characters of the world's written languages, including
Hebrew. The decoding from file contents to display ready text will have to
be rewritten. And it wouldn't surprise me when Symbian OS already supports flowing texts from right to left, given the world-wide interests of Nokia, Panasonic, etc. The text display aspects of the application will therefore
need to be rewritten as well. Also because your P910 has a smaller screen
in portrait orientation. That the EPOC version supports the Revo, Series
5mx and Series 7 doesn't necessarily mean that Dr. McKee already made it capable of handling any screen size. Regarding text navigation, your P910
has a touchscreen so that scrolling up or down by tapping "the top or
bottom half of the screen" can be retained. However, when by "converting to Symbian" you mean that the new application also runs on such Nokias as the
6800 and 9210(i) it means running on devices with different screen sizes, different screen orientations and without touchscreens. In other words, different text navigation controls.

---Kind Regards,
Rolf Brunsting - Darp - Netherlands

Date: 1 Dec 2004 23:57:25 +0700
From: Keith Giles <address truncated>
Subject: Re: Overlays

For Alan Morris: I did zoom out - still only 2 overlays. I've changed the
mbm file name to the same as the overlay name and now the icons are the correct TomTom hands.

For Itamar: I had looked at the MakeOver 2.11 Help. The text file
I created is in the form: 57.11635,-3.64330,"Cairn Gorm (1245m)" - latitude first.

I noticed that one of the 2 overlays is in the wrong position. The overlay icon for Speyer appears to the NE of Heidelberg. Apparently the program I
used (MS Autoroute Europe)to get latitudes/longitudes has incorrect values.
I looked up the lat/long for that city in an atlas I have and it gives the correct values.

So now I don't know how many values are wrong (because I don't see the
icons). Looks like I'll have to get the coordinates the hard way -
searching the atlas index pages. :-(

My guess is that I won't find out how to create a proper overlay.

If anyone wants a copy of a country's file (Excel) listing all the cities alphabetically and indicating their "master" city, i.e, which city to
install in order to have the city you're looking for, I'd be happy to send
it if you contact me. So far I have only Germany, Norway, Portugal, and
Spain. David Steer already did the UK.

If any overlay expert wants to create overlays for each country, I'd be willing to create an Excel file (from which a text file could be created) listing the "master" cities and their lat/long for these countries.

For me, these overlays would be most helpful. If I had a rough idea of a route, I could look at the overlay and know which master cities to load on
the 5mx's CF card before leaving home.

My gut feeling is that such an overlay project is dead in the water.

Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net

Thought For The Day: Nothing is as difficult to do gracefully as getting
off your high horse.

All my outgoing e-mails have been checked by Norton Anti-virus.

Date: 2 Dec 2004 12:47:58 +0700
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: Overlays

Hi Keith,

I have another idea for you. Create a NEW overlay IN Routeplanner and enter
2 or 3 cities within Routeplanner. Now use Makeover to export this overlay file to a text file. Open the text file and enter the other cities in the
text file in the same format as the ones you earlier entered within Routeplanner. Safe the file (use symbian text editor !) and use Makeover to convert it back to an overlay.

If you will try this, first enter 10 cities or so and try it out. If it
works, continue.

I took an exisiting file with speedcameras many moons ago with abt. 300 cameras and added new ones both while driving within Street/Routeplanner as well as by inserting them by hand in a text file from many different
sources. The overlay now has over 1,700 entries and works without problems. You MUST be able to succeed as well.

Best regards,

Itamar

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Subject: Re: Overlays
Author: Keith Giles <address truncated>
Date: Wed,  1 Dec 2004 23:57:25 +0000

For Alan Morris: I did zoom out - still only 2 overlays. I've changed the
mbm file name to the same as the overlay name and now the icons are the correct TomTom hands.

For Itamar: I had looked at the MakeOver 2.11 Help. The text file
I created is in the form: 57.11635,-3.64330,"Cairn Gorm (1245m)" - latitude first.

I noticed that one of the 2 overlays is in the wrong position. The overlay icon for Speyer appears to the NE of Heidelberg. Apparently the program I
used (MS Autoroute Europe)to get latitudes/longitudes has incorrect values.
I looked up the lat/long for that city in an atlas I have and it gives the correct values.

So now I don't know how many values are wrong (because I don't see the
icons). Looks like I'll have to get the coordinates the hard way -
searching the atlas index pages. :-(

My guess is that I won't find out how to create a proper overlay.

If anyone wants a copy of a country's file (Excel) listing all the cities alphabetically and indicating their "master" city, i.e, which city to
install in order to have the city you're looking for, I'd be happy to send
it if you contact me. So far I have only Germany, Norway, Portugal, and
Spain. David Steer already did the UK.

If any overlay expert wants to create overlays for each country, I'd be willing to create an Excel file (from which a text file could be created) listing the "master" cities and their lat/long for these countries.

For me, these overlays would be most helpful. If I had a rough idea of a route, I could look at the overlay and know which master cities to load on
the 5mx's CF card before leaving home.

My gut feeling is that such an overlay project is dead in the water.

Happy Cycling,
Keith
Sunnyvale, CA
http://ohsix827.home.comcast.net

Date: 2 Dec 2004 14:08:54 +0700
From: Peter McCafferty <address truncated>
Subject: Opera on the Netbook

Hello All,

Having just bought a Netbook from eBay, (not as painful as the press would have you believe), I ask the folowing: (NetBook EPOC R.5 2002 Release 158)

===The on board browser is Opera for Epoc v5.14 (36), but this seems to be an evaluation copy with a 30 day user period.

Is this correct? If the browser is in the OS ROM, surely it should be
either pre-registered or free to register. Could someone tell me the Opera
web page that still deals with EPOC/Symbian versions, and what the current protocol is for using the browser and its registration. Am I missing something?

===Again, on the internet theme,

Is there a way of turning the dial up volume down to a whisper? Even the
quiet setting is too loud!

===Same theme...

When I initiate a download through the demo version of Opera, the browser resigns the connection, so that every time I click on a hyperlink I have to
go through the whole dial up routine again, which is only just bearable
when using the ISDN with Gold Card, but a real pain in the a*** when connecting through the IR port to my mobile phone.

Is there way of telling the browser not to hang up every time it
successfully downloads a page? Or is this a condition of the browser being
a demo version?

My internet settings on the NB are:
"If idle, stay online for 10:00 mm:ss"
"On exit, stay online for 01:00 mm:ss"

===same theme...

When I hang up or the page is fully downloaded, and I choose to go
to another application, Opera then shuts down and quits with the page
content. How can I get it to stay open?

Apart from all this, using the NB with nConvert is a dream!

Thanks for your time.

regards

Peter

-- Peter McCafferty, Peter Julian & Associates, Architects
6-8 Tiverton Street, London, SE1 6NZ, UK.
Tel: +44 (0) 20 72 34 01 12
Fax: +44 (0) 87 00 55 78 12

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