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The Digest Sun, 22 May 2005 Volume 02 : Number 746
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- Subject field
- RE: The Digest V1 # 745
- Usage tip: Repeating alarms, Series80 &EPOC / 9500 question: cursor movement
- Revo batteries - towards a solution
- Re: The Digest V1 # 745
- Re: The Digest V1 # 745
- 9500 question: 9500 as USB pen?
- Those few annoying niggles on the 9500 and printing, IR transfer
- New P910i Firmware available., Off-topic messages,
- Moving Big-bang/Evolution out of the Digest
- A Request (OT)
- Recent test of Nokia 7710
- Re: "definition" of a PDA
- Looking for my next PDA
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005
From: Digest administrator
Subject: Subject field
Can we remind the subscribers to change the subject field into the subject you write about and not just to copy the "The Digest" subject field from the Digest ? It just makes the subjects more useful, specially for the HTML subscribers who can jump to the specific subjects that interest them. Thank you.
With best regards
Itamar Engelsman
The Digest Team
Date: 20 May 2005 04:54:49 +0000
From: "Roy Maidment" <address truncated>
Subject: RE: The Digest V1 # 745
Jim Watson Wrote:
I am having problems with the Documents to go spreadsheet program. Building
and maintaining a spreadsheet on the Tungston works great - much better from
my experience with the Treo. Then when I try to open the file on my Compaq
or Dell (in MS Office), the desktop cannot read the file. Anyone on the
list playing with Palm have any experience to share?
Hello Jim,
I'm using DTG with a Tungsten T3. Do you have DTG installed on your PC? If
so which version? If not, and you are sending the file wirelessly, make
sure that it is a Native Excel version on the Palm - not a DTG version. In
DTG, select the file (but don't open it) and select the properties button -
this will tell you which version it is. If it's DTG, then open it, and use
the 'Save As' setting to make a Native Excel version.
Apologies to Psioneers for a Palm post!
With best regards,
RoyM
Date: 20 May 2005 10:06:13 +0000
From: Simon Jeffree <address truncated>
Subject: Usage tip: Repeating alarms, Series80 &EPOC / 9500 question: cursor movement
Re: Usage tip: Repeating alarms, Series 80 & EPOC
Apologies if I'm teaching my grandmother to suck eggs, but I thought the following may be of interest to some of you (I wish I'd thought of it years ago, for my 5mx!). BTW, I'd like to hear from anyone else who's got any other tips, which they think may be of use to other people.
Having recently started migrating from a Psion 5mx to a Nokia 9500, one of the main losses (apart from the keyboard) is the lack of screen real estate. For instance in 'Alarm clock', you can only see 4 alarms at a time & as I have many regular daily & weekly events at fixed times for which I need repeating alarms. So this leaves me with no space to see any odd ad hoc alarms I may want to create. I didn't want to clutter up the 'Calendar' schedule with these regular minor events, so instead I created a 'To-do list' called 'Alarms' & put them all in there. Now, both the 'Calendar' schedule & 'Alarm clock' are nice & clear. When stepping through my to-do lists, it's trivial just to skip this one & move on to the next one, but it means they don't take up valuable screen space on any screens that I actually look at.
Re: 9500 question: cursor movement
Does anyone know if key combinations exist on the 9500 for any of the following cursor movements:
- Start/end of line
- Start/end of document
Regard,
Simon Jeffree
Date: 20 May 2005 12:13:20 +0000
From: Timothy H.D. Williams <address truncated>
Subject: Revo batteries - towards a solution
I seem to have hit upon a solution to my battery problems on the Revo.
Even when the gauge readout is low, as soon as I put the Revo in its
cradle, it frequently jumps through the middle percentages straight
into the nineties. Consequently, the red light is on as the charge
reaches one hundred percent. Afraid of baking the battery I used to
take the machine out of the cradle.
What I now do is put the machine in its cradle and as soon as Chadis
starts beeping to tell me it is fast charging at 100 %, I start
downloading a big file from the Revo (I use the TR Oxford dictionary
which weighs in at some 7 mb). The charge reading drops heavily,
sometimes down into the forties. Inevitably, the red light goes out.
Sometimes, once the download has been made, the gauge jumps back to
100 %, sometimes to a lower reading. Whether the charge is total or
not, now that the machine is on a trickle charge, I don't worry about
leaving the machine in its cradle.
I haven't had any problems lately with the Revo in its day to day
use. (I am using a G5 iMac , a Keyspan usb adaptor and the truly
excellent Java Psion Link version 10.2. The Keyspan programme had to
be updated when I moved up to Tiger, Mac OS 1.4.)
Best
T
Date: 20 May 2005 12:23:52 +0000
From: Steve Hodgson <address truncated>
Subject: Re: The Digest V1 # 745
> jim - waiting for the return to the list of the espresso machine the
>cow and the helicopter
This little PS had me searching through my past copies of the digest for the reference. I found the first use of the phrase back in Dec 2003, a reference to helicopter travel in October 03, Rolf on Espresso and Latte in August 03. The earliest reference to cows was in April 04.
How's that for OT!
Cheers,
Steve
Date: 20 May 2005 12:24:09 +0000
From: Steve Hodgson <address truncated>
Subject: Re: The Digest V1 # 745
>I am having problems with the Documents to go spreadsheet program.
>Building and maintaining a spreadsheet on the Tungston works great -
>much better from my experience with the Treo. Then when I try to open
>the file on my Compaq or Dell (in MS Office), the desktop cannot read
>the file.
>Anyone on the list playing with Palm have any experience to share?
Jim,
Is the file in MS Excel format or Sheet To Go? I don't what difference this would make but it might have an impact on the conversion. I have generally created the spreadsheet file on the desktop and then transferred over but left them as Office files. This has not caused and problems but the files I keep on the Tungsten are pretty simple.
Have you checked the synchronisation and conversion options in Documents To Go? I've just had a look at my copy (Mac version) and there don't seem tol be any options that could cause a problem. Do you use a very early version of excel on the PC?
Hope some of these thoughts help.
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Regards,
Steve Hodgson mailto<address truncated>/a>
Date: 20 May 2005 12:37:26 +0000
From: Simon Jeffree <address truncated>
Subject: 9500 question: 9500 as USB pen?
Re: 9500 question: 9500 as USB pen?
Is there any way the 9500 can be connected to a PC & seen as just a mass storage device (like a USB pen), without having to run the Nokia PC Suite software? Then I could just drag 'n' drop files to/from it in Windows Explorer. I have no need of syncing or any other clever stuff.
Regards,
Simon Jeffree
Date: 20 May 2005 14:26:16 +0000
From: Kevin Thorne <address truncated>
Subject: Those few annoying niggles on the 9500 and printing, IR transfer
Having praised the 9500 constantly and found very few niggles on the machine I feel I should redress the balance slightly and air a couple of those niggles!
1 If one starts writing an email, then goes to another application to look up some info, when going back to Messaging the email disappears into the drafts folder and has to be found again then reopened.
2 Bluetooth cannot be activated/deactivated from the phone cover, the clamshell has to be opened to do this, despite this being a major phone function (as well as a PDA function).
Also....
Has anyone used direct printing from the 9500 to one of the compatable printers?
I notice that my 9500 works fine doing IR transfers to my XP laptop but my Psion S7 does not. I think if I remember this is because the ER5 Psions don't implement the full Irda requirements? Is this correct? Was there some sort of fix for this?
Regards
Kevin Thorne
Date: 20 May 2005 15:35:53 +0000
From: Itamar Engelsman <address truncated>
Subject: New P910i Firmware available., Off-topic messages,
Answer to: Alan Rabbitte
Re.: New P910i Firmware available. - I tried some updates ago to ask them the same question and got the answer that they can't tell me, you just have to update if you want to. As I don't have any problems with my P910 and it does not crash at all, I decided to stick with what I've got along the line "if it ain't broke, ain't fix it". Only if I would know that they added an essential function in one of the programs would I update my firmware.
To All
Re.: Off-topic messages - As I said before, the digest is not censored and we have no plans in that direction either. As it seems to disturb more people than it pleases, I will _personally_ stop these discussions within a few digests to come (to allow for any answers to me to be dealt with before stopping).
Best regards,
Itamar Engelsman
London, UK
Date: 20 May 2005 16:19:08 +0000
From: Chris S Handley
Subject: Moving Big-bang/Evolution out of the Digest
Hi all,
Given the recent number of (quite reasonable) requests to leave discussions of Evolution, the Big-bang, etc out of the Digest, I would like to make the following proposal:
Would those interested in taking part in, or just listing to, the above discussions please email me at "cshandley DOT temp AT zen DOT co DOT uk" with the subject line "SCIENTIFIC HERESY DEBATE". Obviously you should replace capitals by their symbol, to get the real email address!
It would then be possible for the discussions to be made private, by simply CCing (carbon-copying) everyone interested when replying. I.E. Our own little mailing list. If the interest was so large that this proves unworkable, then we could look at creating a dedicated mailing list using Yahoo or similar.
Please note that this private mailing list would NOT cover discussions of the ethics, morality or legality of software issues. That is probably still better kept in the Digest, or on a completely different mailing list...
I would also offer myself as (one of) the maintainers of this list, although once the list is formed, we'd really need to discuss in more detail what rules (if any) would be enforced, how it would be run, etc.
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Chris Handley
Date: 20 May 2005 20:00:41 +0000
From: Wong Koi Hin <address truncated>
Subject: A Request (OT)
To All Digestees,
recent discussions on topics such as morality and evolution have been long running and taking up a lot of the bandwidth of the digest. I personally enjoyed reading these discussions and have strong opinions on the subjects as well.
However I also feel such lengthy and prolonged discussions on topics which stray far from what is purported to be the content of this digest will eventually negatively affect the digest in how it is used or perceived. People join mailing lists or forums with the understanding they deal with certain topic areas (despite the fact there appears to me to be no official guidelines in this area, nonetheless most folks form a perception as such). You are free to disagree and tell me so.
I would like to request that my fellow digest members, in consideration of their fellow digest members, exercise discretion when deciding to continue or elaborate on certain topics. You may indeed feel a strong need to make a rejoinder or retort, but do consider doing it to the individual/s rather than the whole digest. Consider for a moment that the vast majority of the members here might react negatively to seeing such discussions especially on topics which touch on religion and politics. Had they been inclined to such discussions, there are ample forums or lists which will cater to those needs..
To the Digest Team do consider posting some guidelines as to appropriate topics or areas for discussions. I do not think this count as censorship and is beneficial to the list.
Warm regards to All,
Koi Hin
Date: 20 May 2005 22:24:43 +0000
From: Ithaq <address truncated>
Subject: Recent test of Nokia 7710
Hello all
Hope I am not disturbing the "evolution" fanatics with some Symbian news: see: http://www.mobique.com/nokia/7710/page1.php for those interested in the new Nokia 7710.
Greetings from Grenoble (France)
Stephane Sage
Date: 20 May 2005 23:42:16 +0000
From: David Steer \(Plus\) <address truncated>
Subject: Re: "definition" of a PDA
Date: 18 May 2005 09:41:02 +0000
From: Ian Chapple <address truncated>
Subject: Re: "definition" of a PDA
>>>>It was interesting that the author asserts that "anything that requires two hands to reasonably use, isn't a PDA." In my experience all PDAs (bar the Invair Filoewalker I guess) require at least one hand to hold the thing and the other to drive. By the author's criteria the classic Psion 3 series would be even less of a PDA as it required two hands to hold and two thumbs to type.<<
>>I must admit that I find this "definition" of a PDA complete rubbish. You can't even use a Palm one-handed, unless you place it on a table... By this token, presumably my windows PC counts as a PDA; it's portable (-ish) and I can use it one-handed when it's stood on a table.<<<<
Ian,
I couldn't agree with you more! By this deffinition, my TV remote is a PDA! The webopedia definition for a PDA is:
"Short for personal digital assistant, a handheld device that combines computing, telephone/fax, Internet and networking features. A typical PDA can function as a cellular phone, fax sender, Web browser and personal organizer. Unlike portable computers, most PDAs began as pen-based, using a stylus rather than a keyboard for input. This means that they also incorporated handwriting recognition features. Some PDAs can also react to voice input by using voice recognition technologies. PDAs of today are available in either a stylus or keyboard version."
Even this definition does not fit the bill. Apple invented the PDA, coined the term 'personal digital assistant', and shipped the very first Newton MessagePad.
By that definition, keyboard systems are actually Pocket Computers! This is probably supported by Psion's definition for the Series 3 which was 'Pocket Computer' and not PDA.
Regards
David
Date: 21 May 2005 14:37:50 +0000
From: Ian Brogan <address truncated>
Subject: Looking for my next PDA
Dear All
I'm looking for advice concerning my next PDA, as I'm in a bit of a quandary.
I've been a PDA user for about seven years, currently using a Nokia 9210i. However, at home and work this has become a problem. Work computer infrared won't talk to it, since I was upgraded to XP, and at home we have just bought a 20-inch iMac G5.
My assumption was, go buy a 9500 or a 9300, and enjoy the joys of Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. However, according to the Apple website, I won't be able to fully sync. with Panther.
Now in a perfect world Dr Potter would bring out the 9mx replacement for my beloved 5mx, to me the perfect PDA format (I'liked it enough to write about it: http://www.archive.foxpop.com/10_03/pages/22.htm). It would have the lovely keyboard, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, colour screen, USB and or Firewire... Sigh.
But as it ain't going to happen I'm looking at other handheld solutions.
The spec would be as follows: sync with Mac and Windows XP, minimum Bluetooth, software that allows multi-160 character SMS (I send about 10 a day), a very good word processor that's Word compatible, multi account email client that can sync with Outlook 2003 and Entourage, able to view in landscape on largest screen I can get, talk to a folding keyboard (or have an integrated one).
Sorry the post is so long, but could really do with the advice!
Regards
Ian
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