TheDigest Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Volume 02, Number 1327


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Topics

  1. Re: The Digest V1 # 1326 (1)
  2. EPOC emulator on linux netbook
  3. Palm vs Psion
  4. symbian-powered netbook?

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Date: 20 Feb 2009 10:47:18 +0000
From: Ian Chapple
Subject: Re: The Digest V1 # 1326 (1)


@ Moshe:

>>Well said, I could not agree more. I am really not sure who those multi-version manufacturers of all-sizes-but-the-right-size are listening to.<<

Presumably they are listening to the "majority" of users, and not former (or current) Psion users. The way I see it, there are two ways of looking at what happend to Psion:

1. Psion was clearly the best, and those phone/PDA owners who didn't buy Psions were mistaken in their choices;

2. Psion was probably better technically, but did not sell devices which the PDA-buying public actually wanted to buy.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter whether Psion was right or wrong, and it doesn't even matter what Psion-enthousiasts think; manufacturers need to sell devices, and in large numbers, which is something that Psion was simply not able to do. The current crop of netbooks are not intended as Psion-replacements, they are intended as laptop replacements, a function which they appear to carry out remarkably well. The fact that the new generation of netbooks is selling so well shows that a. Psion basically had it right all those years ago and b. manufacturers are making products which the public want to buy; it is to these people the manufacturers are listening, not users of an extinct OS/product line...

Cheers, Ian.

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Date: 20 Feb 2009 12:14:20 +0000
From: Alan Chambers <address truncated>
Subject: EPOC emulator on linux netbook


To Ian Colvin

>One last question: has anyone on the list tried running the EPOC emulator on a netbook?
>How does it fare? I'm guessing that it would be useful for accessing one's files, but
>that the lack of instant-on and -off would hobble it somewhat for agenda-use.
>I also wonder how well it would run on WINE on linux.

Hi Ian I have a Eee PC 701 4G on which I did manage to get the EPOC emulator running. Actually, as a test, I got it running on Ubuntu Linux on my laptop before even buying the EeePC it was all part of my cunning migration plan. The EPOC Emulator (a windows program) runs under Wine on the Eee PC's Linux.  There's a discussion of the topic here:
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=12057to which I contributed at the time.

So it does work and at first sight works remarkably well.   However, I found several problems that mean I never really used it at all:

1. Although the standard Psion apps work well, many others don't.  I discovered in the end that it's applications that use OCX's these are machine dependent binaries that don't run on the alien hardware.  This was a real shame as it means that I no longer have a working TomeRaider they do versions for many different platforms but not Linux, and the Psion one doesn't work under the emulator.

2. The is a strange quirk that means that if you have the emulator open on screen and then move to something else and come back, it's minimised to a funny icon that you can't restore.  This made it unusuable.

So on the whole, it's not a viable alternative.

So, I exported by Psion Contacts and imported them in the KOrganizer PIM provided on the Eee PC, which seemed to work well until I started noticing a number of entries that hadn't transferred properly.  I still don't know why this was some incompatibility between the data exported by the Psion and those expected by KOrganizer.

So I don't use my Psion any more but I still miss it.  On the other hand I love my Eee PC it's a wonderful little machine.

Alan

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Date: 20 Feb 2009 17:20:05 +0000
From: Bernard Hill <address truncated>
Subject: Palm vs Psion


In message <address truncated>, The Digest <address truncated> writes

>Mind you, I never considered a Palm as bling ;-) However, I firmly >believe that Palm provided what many users wanted; a simple, robust, >easy-to-use device with reliable syncing. To those users who did go >down the Palm route, Palm was superior to Psion. And while many users >clearly preferred the overall power of Psions, they were to small in >number to really matter.

Well I don't know what a bling is... but having tried to use a Palm I can forcefully say it is NOT what this user wants.

I want a diary, database, reference book, email client. AND A PROPER KEYBOARD. I am a touch typist and am comfortable on the Psion 7 and can put up with the Psion 5. Typing thousands of words a day on email does not bear thinking about on anything without a keyboard!

Bernard Hill
Braeburn Software

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Date: 20 Feb 2009 18:41:20 +0000
From: Franco Azzini <address truncated>
Subject: symbian-powered netbook?


I' m running Psion Epoc emulator with WINE (linux). It works fine, but if you minimize the windows for a long time, it crash (stop to run).

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