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Hi Jaap:
> Your toolbar.opm (not toolbar.opo!) does actually run under the emulator and I > was able to define 6 or more buttons on the screen.
>
Oops, it's been so long since I actually used it that I'd forgotten it
was an OPM and not an OPO.
> What is missing compared to the regular Toolbar.opo features, are the build-in > routines to handle the association of the buttons with the subprograms or
> procedures behind each button, using the x,y position of
> the pen. However, this requires more programming effort and more time,
> but at least I can recover the complete Series 7/Netbook features (of my
> programmes) on the WINS emulator. The lack of graphical output on the buttons > is for me not a problem. I still think that the original WINS toolbar.opo
> should be updated to have the same features as on the Netbook/Series 7
> machines, but I don't think that there is much chance
> that the original EPOC developers have interest in doing this. I know
> now that there is nice work-around using your toolbar opm routine.
>
Glad to hear that it worked.
> Ian and Chris, thank you both for your help and assistance! This proves that
> the Digest is not yet extinct but still full of kind people helping each
> other.
>
You're welcome.
Cheers, Ian.
Hello Jaap,
My last email was truncated for some reason, so here it is again...
Jaap Laméris wrote:
> I had already the software source of TubeRoute and I will look into it,
> but can TubeRoute also be run on the Wins emulator? Because I know how
> to get coloured lines on the netbook screen, but I don't know how to do
> this in the WINS Emulator.
In principle all OPL programs can be run on the WINS 'emulator'. In practice some OPL programs use OPXes that do not have WINS version available.
All my OPL programs will work on the emulator, although in the case of FastBackup it runs with slightly reduced functionality (due to one missing OPX)
> Your remark about using a different toolbar.opo file make sense, but how
> can I find the correct one? I am aware of dptoolbar.opo from Marin
> Maxwell Harnevie, but this one will not run in the WINS emulator (running
> the example program. it will generate an error about dividing by zero in
> the module tbarindicators of toolbar.opo). Are you aware of a toolbar.opo
> file which is suited for the WINS emulator and can simulate the
> netbook/series 7 toolbar?
Hmmm, maybe I was mis-remembering that Martin's toolbar ran on the emulator In any case I have hurriedly (and without testing) ZIPed-up all the emulator files that I think you will find useful, including the Toolbar.opo that I used. I have TEMPORARILY uploaded it to this location, but make no guarantees about how long it stays there:
http://cshandley.co.uk/temp/NetbookEmu.zip
Although I called it "Netbook Emu", it actually has a 16-bit (?) 800x600 display, so it's better than the Epoc Netbook! On an 1024x768 display the emulator nicely fills the whole screen :)
I have included a boat load of Wins OPXs, which were all the ones I was able to lay my hands on, so you should be able to get quite a few OPL programs to work.
I have NOT included any Wins apps, since I do not appear to have kept the installation files (if they had any). I could perhaps try to extract one or two Wins apps, such as the MbmViewer app (very useful)....
> The standard toolbar.opo in the EPOC emulator can not do this. See how
> the standard Data programme is running: on the netbook/series 7 you will
> have 6 coloured buttons available, but in the emulator you will have
> only four, the Sort and Print buttons are absent!.
I am afraid that only OPL programs will have 6 toolbar buttons normal apps will still only have 4 buttons. That is because Toolbar.opo is only used by OPL apps. It would require someone to update the Wins emulator, and possibly the Wins programs, to get more 6 buttons.
Chris Handley
Dear all,
As I understand it there are some new 'netbooks' that do not have a standard Intel processor, but an ARM. These netbooks cannot run standard Windows, but they can run their own sort of Linux. Some very cheap netbooks (<< EUR 200) can either run their specific sort of Linux or some kind of Windows Mobile with which they are actually sold. In that case they are instant-on.
Given this specific architecture of the processor and the fact that our own netBooks are also ARM computers, would it be possible to implement a native EPOC R5 OS on these machines, perhaps with a bit of magic of the EPOC programmers still here around ?
For me, my netBook with EPOC and its set of programs is still the most important computer. The only reason for me to stop using it would be a hardware failiure, followed by a failure of the machines in my extra stock.
It would therefore be great to have a hardware replacement.
I was considering a netbook under Windows, running the emulator, but the emulator did not run all of the programs and it is not instant-on.
Yours truly,
Thomas van der Zijden
Jaap
have a look here:
http://bounders.orconhosting.net.nz/pages/psion/
I have been working on replacement images to use the emulator on an EeePC
I'm getting there only have the calculator and the left side bar to do
Auda
>
> Also I found out how to get colour graphics within the WINS emulator, thanks
> to the tip of Chris Handley.
>
> Ian and Chris, thank you both for your help and assistance! This proves that
> the Digest is not yet extinct but still full of kind people helping each
> other.
>
> Greetings from the Netherlands,
>
> Jaap Laméris
Chris Handley schreef:
> Hello Rolf, Jaap,
>
> .....
>
> Hmmm, maybe I was mis-remembering that Martin's toolbar ran on the emulator In any case I have hurriedly (and without testing) ZIPed-up all the emulator files that I think you will find useful, including the Toolbar.opo that I used. I have TEMPORARILY uploaded it to this location, but make no guarantees about how long it stays there: > http://cshandley.co.uk/temp/NetbookEmu.zip
>
Thank you Chris for this file. It looks nice but at first sight it looks
that the custom batch file is only for a series 5 type screen format.
However I have the graphics and the corresponding batch files for other
screen sizes.
I did not see however your toolbar.opo file. in the zip file. I already
got the source code of the original Symbian toolbar and I also found a
fix to get 6 buttons on the side bar instead of the four I had on the
WINS emulator. It was mainly changing a constant from a value of six to
eight.... I did not have time yet to test extensively my modification,
but my programme is now correctly working in the emulator. I wil test
more and report it to the Digest later. Meanwhile if you could send me
your version of the toolbar I can possibly compare it with my version.
> I am afraid that only OPL programs will have 6 toolbar buttons normal apps will still only have 4 buttons. That is because Toolbar.opo is only used by OPL apps. It would require someone to update the Wins emulator, and possibly the Wins programs, to get more 6 buttons.
>
I had -maybe mistakenlygotten the impression from a text on the
Teklogix website some years ago that this was done already but not yet
published on their website. Apparantly I was wrong.
Anyhow, thanks for your help.
Jaap Laméris
Hi,
There's a place on ebay, Revo Support Service I think.
I know they offered a replacement service and could also upgrade memory. I got a used Revo from them a while back and I'm really pleased with it.
Cheers,
Craig
>
> Hello,
>
> Would anyone know a good place to replace the Revo battery
> please?
>
> And is the replacement more reliable than the original?
>
> Many thanks!
> Dick