Hi Jim,
When I used my disk with 9.10 I didn't have any other Ubuntu on my machine. I just put it in the optical device and it came up and asked me if I wanted to install it and I clicked yes and it just took care of it.
Do you think you need to take off the earlier edition and try again???
Like you I am not an expert I have done a lot of trial and error, but I seem to get there in the end.
Thanks,
Bob
Steilacoom, Washington
Dear all,
Gianluca's message was a coincidence: my CF cards (!) suddenly went bust as well.
This is what happened:
- Yesterday morning I switched on my netBook and only saw a blank screen. I tried to reset it. Nothing. I removed the battery and this provoked a hard reset even while the backup battery was still fine.
- The netBook automatically started reading an OS.IMG file it found on my 1 GB compact flash, but this was unfortunately a Malaybook OS.IMG. It worked of course, but it was not the right version.
- I popped in my 64 Mb Hitachi, removed the battery and the netBook complained "Insert a bootable CF card"
- In fact, the Hitachi was suddenly completely dead. I could not read it in my netBook, not in my PC and - at the end of the adventure - not in my netBook anyway.
- I then took the 1 GB card, inserted it into my PC to put the newest OS.IMG on it. This was a very bad mistake, as Window$ put a lot of mess on it as well.
- I then loaded the OS.IMG, transferred all data, except the mess, on a reserve 1 GB compact flash (Transcent), formatted the original one and put all files back on it.
What did actually start the problems ? I stored the netBook in my backpack Wednesday evening for a 15 min ride on my bike. It probably did not like the sub-zero temperatures.
Meanwhile I ask myself two things:
- apparently the live of a CF is indeed only 10 years (I bought the Hitachi in 2000)
- where do I find a brand new stock of 1 GB CF cards ? (Please remind me: what is the actual limit of a CF in a netBook if not partitioned ? 1 or 2 GB ?).
As I mentioned before: I will probably not stop using a netBook, because of better equipment arriving. I will probably have to stop using a netBook, because the hardware components start to fail.
Yours sincerely,
Thomas van der Zijden
Date: 17 Dec 2009 08:16:25 +0000
From: Wong Koi Hin <address truncated>
Subject: Subject: Instant on
Hi Aj,
Aj wrote> Just to clarify:
>
> Psions have instant on because they dont actually shutdown - they sleep > (if you recall, the first time you switch on a Psion it takes 2 minutes to > boot the OS, after which you have instant off and on because you are >
> merely putting it to sleep). You can also do the same with Ubuntu - my
> laptop takes 5 seconds to put to sleep and about 10 seconds to wake up.
I think it depends on the definition of the terms we use. On Windows
PC, the 'Sleep' mode frequently called Hibernate saves the current
state of your system/memory, writes it to disk and actually does shut
down power. Restoration time is dependent on a number of factors
including how much RAM you have (the more the slower), and I/O access
times of various devices. For example a SSD will likely restore faster
than a HDD.
====
The above is not quite accurate. Windows actually has *three* versions of "off":
1. Off/Shutdown. This closes all open programs and shuts down the power to the processor, disks, USB ports etc. Nothing is saved to disk, so the system doesn't "remember" any state information.
2. Standby. Nothing is saved to disk but the power is reduced to a minimum. Currently open programs are left open. If you unplug (or remove the battery from) a Windows computer while it is in this state, all in-memory data will be lost and, when you switch the machine on again, no programs (other than those started at boot-time) will be open. Unplugging a machine while it is in Standby is equivalent to turning it "off" (#1 above).
3. Hibernate. In-memory data are saved to disk as is the state of all currently open programs. The current "view" (what you see on screen) is also saved. Power is turned off completely. If you unplug (or remove the battery from) a machine while it is in this state nothing will be lost and, when you switch it on again it will be in the same state as it was before it "hibernated".
I think Psions etc. use something between #2 and #3. They can do this because memory is non-volatile on these systems so there is no need to save data to disk. That's also why it appears so much faster than on a Windows system. I think #1 is roughly equivalent to a soft reset on a Psion-like device.
Harold Fuchs
London, England
Hi Gianluca,
> After That, i got a soft reset and the D disk was descripted as corrupt > Any chances to get back my files?
> Any hints?
when you insert the cf into a PC card reader, is it found as formatted device or not at all? Is the file system still working fine? What do usual file restoration programs tell you? (scanning is usually possible in free trial, partly restoration often, full restoration only in paid full version)
HTH,
Georg
* Any chances to get back my files?
Try it into a PC or Mac, but I think that your files are lost. Your CF-card isn't damaged, format it and you can work again with it.
All my essential files are on C.
Every night I make a backup of C to D with BackUp by Ralph Sprenger. Every time when I load the battery I make a full backup from D to E, and I do that twice (two different CF-cards).
And sometimes I make a backup of E to the PC.
Regards,
Kees.
On 17 Dec 2009, Wong Koi Hin <address truncated> wrote:
> A closer equivalent to a Psion's 'sleep' might actually be Standby on > a Windows PC where power is only supplied to memory to allow it to
> keep its state. A resume from Standby will be faster than from a
> Hibernate on the same system.
On Linux machines, things are slightly better than Windows (as usual), we have several modes. Hibernate saves state to disk and then powers down. When the machine powers up again, it sees the saved state, reloads it and restarts the OS. Linux machines also have a standby which shuts down most of the hardware (screen, hard-drive, etc) but keeps RAM refreshed. My laptop takes only a few seconds to come back from standby mode, so that is probably closer to what Psions do.
> I too would like Instant on for all my computing devices and I believe
> it is a matter of time before we do take it for granted on most
> computers.
Already there - I dont do Windoze anymore :-)
Aj.
On 17 Dec 2009, Jim Watson-Gove <address truncated> wrote:
> In preparation to changing the os on my eee pc, I popped an ubuntu disk > into my desktop to get familiar with ubuntu.
>
> I have two versions. Both locked up. 9.10 gave me:
> (initramsf) unable to find a medium containing a live file system
>
> 8.10 gave me:
> (initramfs) 107.2640131 ata1;srst fail (errno:16).
What kind of Ubuntu disk are they? I think for EEEPC I made a bootable USB stick and booted off that. Did you try eeebuntu?
Aj.
On 17 Dec 2009, Jacques Michel <address truncated> wrote:
> [ certainly not. Any Psion that boots from scratch takes only about 15s to get the whole system loaded ]
The point I was making is that a hard reset results in a reboot of the OS,
so it takes longer to get back to the System screen than when the Psion is
sleeping and you wake it up.
In a similar fashion, if you shutdown a desktop OS, it will take longer to
come back to the desktop than if you had put the machine into sleep
mode instead.
Yes Linux is not EPOC, and this is not a good comparison but it
illustrates the general concept of sleep vs. shutdown modes.
> [yes, correct. But then a Psion would still wake up after a two week
> sleep! Any other computer would not, even under Linux!]
Kind of depends how much trickle current is required to maintain RAM and
how much capacity the battery has. Im willing to wager that a Linux
machine could be put to sleep for a week and awoken later if there's
enough battery charge for a week of trickle current...
Actually, a good example of Linux doing this are Android-based phones,
since they all run Linux as the OS, and they certainly have instaneous
on/off and long battery life. EPOC is obviously very good at this but its
not the only OS to ever do it.
I should also point out that the Palm Pre also runs Linux.
> [I thought the 2 minutes reference was a typo error! It seems Ajai has never used a Psion before]
Ive never timed it but again, I know its not instantaneous, it does take
some time to boot the OS and that was the important point I was making.
BTW, while its true I haven't used my Psions for a long time, Ive owned
and used almost every Psion ever made. I worked for a major Psion reseller
here in the US and, back in the day, ran their web site as well as a Psion
software (FTP) archive. (Maybe some others here will remember New World
Technologies based in New York). So your comment is way off base even if
it was meant in jest.
Aj.
I have found that running Checkdisk from Essential Disk Utilities usually sorts out this type of problem.
The worst I have had is the loss of one file which can usually be manually read using the Disk Editor in the suite.
The EDU suite can be downloaded from the PScience5 website.
Regards
John
Att.: Gianluca Gallino
Re.: cf corrupt - There are several recovery programs you can download from the internet and try out. Did you try and read it on your PC ?
Best regards,
Itamar